Stubborn isn't the word for it!

I don't know what is. This bull I know has an aqua moon.

Anyway, he is sometimes quick tempered and jumps down my throat. Example;

Him: only 36% of people love trump. These people are (various expletives)

Me: I wouldn't trust those "polls." They said hillary would win and look what happened.

Him: WHY DO YOU LOVE THAT MF'er SO MUCH?! I can't stand Trump, nor those who love him..... blah blah blah, you should go hang out with the other small minded people we know who worship him. Blah blah blah. I can't take your mentality right now. I'm turning off my phone!

Just one example. And I've already told him 100 times that I don't like Trump. I just don't revel in hating him like so many on the Left do.

Then he's mad at me. We disagree about a movie. He says, "you haven't finished seeing it, so I will continue to disprove and discredit what you say about it."

BIG WOW. What's the point of that? Why does it friggin' matter?

He's so cool and wonderful, and funny. Everyone likes him and with good reason! And other times he seems so arrogant and sarcastic. So..... sometimes he's mean in what he says. Uncooperative. And difficult. I only expected this kind of crap from the angry Virgos I've known. We work together. I'm his boss, so to speak. He says he'll return to work this year with a better attitude and be less of a "bitch." Really he even gives me a hard time at work now and then.

Ugh. I don't know what to do. The worst I always heard about Bulls was that they were too stubborn for words. This is more than that.

Suggestions?

Hehehe I am a Taurus sun with Aqua moon. I am extremely stubborn..... no comments needed... lol

the two most stubborn people i've ever known are a taurus with an aquarius moon and a scorpio with a taurus moon. well, there's also the taurus with scorpio moon who i used to work for.

so all were double fixed with a taurus placement.

i only have one tip and that's to give them the longest rope they can take to be as stubborn as they like whilst leaving your position nonchalant and understanding. then they may loosen/ ease up a little.

for every minute sign of an external force threatening to influence them 'against their will', they will dig their hooves in further out of principle. i think they need to feel safe in the knowledge that they are acting independently and not being manipulated.

even if they are in the wrong and then become aware they are wrong, they need that long rope while they decide to express this for themselves.

they're lovabulls though. they really are the best in many ways.

Posted by saweetz1988
Hehehe I am a Taurus sun with Aqua moon. I am extremely stubborn..... no comments needed... lol

So, say a friend of yours expresses an opposite view on.... anything. Do you automatically take it as an affront to your views, or a challenge, or a debate? You automatically think the other person is a moron or something?

Serious question.

Stop talking politics with your employees. Problem solved.

Posted by 81gems

Posted by saweetz1988
Hehehe I am a Taurus sun with Aqua moon. I am extremely stubborn..... no comments needed... lol

So, say a friend of yours expresses an opposite view on.... anything. Do you automatically take it as an affront to your views, or a challenge, or a debate? You automatically think the other person is a moron or something?

Serious question.

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Normally I keep my mouth shut but deep inside I just stick to my opinion hahahahhaa... I can't be bother debating. Lol... I broke up with the last Scorpio guy coz he didn't believe in astrology hahahah .. something like that ... my man has to believe and support what I do if not we won't go no where haha

Yeah, it gets so annoying, I know it

they're lovabulls

LOL...too cute! 😆

🤗 Cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

Posted by LadyNeptune
Stop talking politics with your employees. Problem solved.

I really don't though. The example I used has him talking about trump over text. I mention something objective and he flips out. Once I told him not to believe everything he hears on the news, and he angrily emailed me demanding to know what news I watch, etc.

He's like this with other matters too, in and outside of work.

Posted by 81gems

Posted by LadyNeptune
Stop talking politics with your employees. Problem solved.

I really don't though. The example I used has him talking about trump over text. I mention something objective and he flips out. Once I told him not to believe everything he hears on the news, and he angrily emailed me demanding to know what news I watch, etc.

He's like this with other matters too, in and outside of work.

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Regardless of who said what first you participated in the texts about trump. Ergo you talked politics with your employee.

Your the boss here, it's up to you to establish the appropriate boundaries. You have all the power.

Arrogant, maybe insecure, as Tiz said - maybe he doesn't feel he's in the right place or where he wants to be.

Liberals aren't always very liberal at all unfortunately.

Thanks tiz, and agent. And yes, I believe you two are on to something. Poor guy, I would say he does have self esteem issues due to a several years of traumatic stuff happening to him. That's why I feel terrible when I get mad at him. I believe I should endlessly brush it off and ignore him. But he is in control of what he says, and he means it, and it is bothersome sometimes.

Ladyneptune, thanks for your last message. What you said at the end, I'd forgotten all about that!

Thanks to everyone else.

lol, I know several Tauruses like this... black and white thinking, obstinate beyond all reason. Not all of them are double fixed. I agree that it's likely a confidence issue and lack of security.

In such cases, I like to acknowledge their statements without explicitly dis/agreeing with them and it seems to do the trick. 😛 If the problem persists, maybe sit him down and have a chat to establish some boundaries, as suggested. It seems you've developed a very casual superior-subordinate relationship with him, and he's having trouble drawing those lines.

BTW, I think it's sweet that you're trying to understand him and find a solution rather than just writing him off. Conflict resolution is virtually non-existent at my workplace. If this were my employer, he would have been axed without question.