Posted by TerramineLightvoid
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Don't have time to watch the video all the way through. But I wanted to say something because a lot of chode ass mofos on here like to fling the word Narcissist my way when I'm discussing things with people here on this forum.

For one. A lot of what this guy is saying only really applies in relationships. Better yet like he says. Whether or not you can label someone a "Narcissist" doesn't matter. What matters is whether they are ABUSIVE or not.

If someone says something you don't like. Whether or not they are a narcissist really does not matter 1 treetrunkin bit. Whether or not someone has an attitude or you think they are "mean. Has no reflection at all upon the validity, credibility, and truth of their words.

If you are a donkey and someone calls you a donkey. It is because you're a donkey. Insulting is not necessarily abuse. It can be punishment. Insulting random strangers is not abusive lmao

What is abusive is when you insult someone who is close to you. If y'all are close, whether as friends or whathaveyou. Then you are already co-operative and compromising enough to just talk things out understandingly.

If I don't know you. I'll call you stupid all day. The problem isn't me calling you stupid. It is that you let a complete stranger bother you.


Your last message sounds like, "If you're bothered by my disrespect, it's YOUR fault."

Narcissist.

Actually that's exactly how it goes cause you are a stranger. I owe you nothing more than human rights. I could be a dick to you for no reason and there is no logic or fact that can say whether I should or shouldn't.

You are responsible for your own butthurt when dealing with someone on a superficial and distant level.

Hurt is a fact of life. You have no inherent right to be protected from butthurt.


Ah, I was wrong to call you a narcissist. Should have been "first class marker" instead.

Being NICE isn't righteous in a world full of ignorance and evil.


Hmm.... Yes. Obviously the two extremes you know best.

Lolno that's you sheeple.
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And arrogant and self deluded too boot! A fine example of a narcissist indeed. If only your written communication and composition didn't suck, you'd be true sociopath material.

My apologies to the OP for derailing this thread.
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
Posted by 81gems
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
Posted by 81gems
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
Don't have time to watch the video all the way through. But I wanted to say something because a lot of chode ass mofos on here like to fling the word Narcissist my way when I'm discussing things with people here on this forum.

For one. A lot of what this guy is saying only really applies in relationships. Better yet like he says. Whether or not you can label someone a "Narcissist" doesn't matter. What matters is whether they are ABUSIVE or not.

If someone says something you don't like. Whether or not they are a narcissist really does not matter 1 treetrunkin bit. Whether or not someone has an attitude or you think they are "mean. Has no reflection at all upon the validity, credibility, and truth of their words.

If you are a donkey and someone calls you a donkey. It is because you're a donkey. Insulting is not necessarily abuse. It can be punishment. Insulting random strangers is not abusive lmao

What is abusive is when you insult someone who is close to you. If y'all are close, whether as friends or whathaveyou. Then you are already co-operative and compromising enough to just talk things out understandingly.

If I don't know you. I'll call you stupid all day. The problem isn't me calling you stupid. It is that you let a complete stranger bother you.


Your last message sounds like, "If you're bothered by my disrespect, it's YOUR fault."

Narcissist.

Actually that's exactly how it goes cause you are a stranger. I owe you nothing more than human rights. I could be a dick to you for no reason and there is no logic or fact that can say whether I should or shouldn't.

You are responsible for your own butthurt when dealing with someone on a superficial and distant level.

Hurt is a fact of life. You have no inherent right to be protected from butthurt.


Ah, I was wrong to call you a narcissist. Should have been "first class marker" instead.

Being NICE isn't righteous in a world full of ignorance and evil.
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Hmm.... Yes. Obviously the two extremes you know best.
Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
Sorry OP but you're really showing here how much you don't know about the essence of Virgos.

It's like people want to forget Virgos are a) human, and b) very much have a mind of their own, moreso than most signs.

People stay wanting to mold mutables into whatever they think we should be lol


I remember a while back posting a messages which said something to the effect of "Don't Virgo's realize that people have their own interests and minds, and don't want to be molded into something the virgo deems 'acceptable'"? One Virgo responded with a "No."

Well... not my job to understand things for people who don't get it.

My brother is now 45 and going through a divorce. He confessed to everyone in the family (except me because I did what Virgo's do best - I "iced" him) that he was wrong in how he treated his children. He had always been "too hard" on them. Forgetting that they were children who needed guidance and help. Looks like he forgot that his children were human, with minds of their own. Must've been my brother's four planets in Virgo.

A friend of mine grew increasingly demanding of my time, and service. Completely forgot about what it meant to be a friend. In the end he became insulting. He too forgot that I am a human being, with my own interests, and that I don't live for him.... Must've been HIS four planets in Virgo.

This thread bought to mind an old male Virgo friend of mine I haven't seen in years. Now he's 38, and still single. Never had a relationship that lasted more than a year. He told me, verbatim, "If you're not perfect you're wasting my time." I was never interested in him, and I felt sorry for anyone who was. Anyway, looks like another case of a Virgo not remember that people are humans.

The female virgo's I've know were all pretty cool. Still, it seemed like they were never all that crazy, or all that happy with anyone in their personal lives. Some signs are never satisfied.

I am a Gemini. I too forget that people are only human. Must be that Virgo moon of mine.

Posted by TerramineLightvoid
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Posted by TerramineLightvoid
Don't have time to watch the video all the way through. But I wanted to say something because a lot of chode ass mofos on here like to fling the word Narcissist my way when I'm discussing things with people here on this forum.

For one. A lot of what this guy is saying only really applies in relationships. Better yet like he says. Whether or not you can label someone a "Narcissist" doesn't matter. What matters is whether they are ABUSIVE or not.

If someone says something you don't like. Whether or not they are a narcissist really does not matter 1 treetrunkin bit. Whether or not someone has an attitude or you think they are "mean. Has no reflection at all upon the validity, credibility, and truth of their words.

If you are a donkey and someone calls you a donkey. It is because you're a donkey. Insulting is not necessarily abuse. It can be punishment. Insulting random strangers is not abusive lmao

What is abusive is when you insult someone who is close to you. If y'all are close, whether as friends or whathaveyou. Then you are already co-operative and compromising enough to just talk things out understandingly.

If I don't know you. I'll call you stupid all day. The problem isn't me calling you stupid. It is that you let a complete stranger bother you.


Your last message sounds like, "If you're bothered by my disrespect, it's YOUR fault."

Narcissist.

Actually that's exactly how it goes cause you are a stranger. I owe you nothing more than human rights. I could be a dick to you for no reason and there is no logic or fact that can say whether I should or shouldn't.

You are responsible for your own butthurt when dealing with someone on a superficial and distant level.

Hurt is a fact of life. You have no inherent right to be protected from butthurt.
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Ah, I was wrong to call you a narcissist. Should have been "first class marker" instead.

Posted by TerramineLightvoid
Don't have time to watch the video all the way through. But I wanted to say something because a lot of chode ass mofos on here like to fling the word Narcissist my way when I'm discussing things with people here on this forum.

For one. A lot of what this guy is saying only really applies in relationships. Better yet like he says. Whether or not you can label someone a "Narcissist" doesn't matter. What matters is whether they are ABUSIVE or not.

If someone says something you don't like. Whether or not they are a narcissist really does not matter 1 treetrunkin bit. Whether or not someone has an attitude or you think they are "mean. Has no reflection at all upon the validity, credibility, and truth of their words.

If you are a donkey and someone calls you a donkey. It is because you're a donkey. Insulting is not necessarily abuse. It can be punishment. Insulting random strangers is not abusive lmao

What is abusive is when you insult someone who is close to you. If y'all are close, whether as friends or whathaveyou. Then you are already co-operative and compromising enough to just talk things out understandingly.

If I don't know you. I'll call you stupid all day. The problem isn't me calling you stupid. It is that you let a complete stranger bother you.


Your last message sounds like, "If you're bothered by my disrespect, it's YOUR fault."

Narcissist.
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Similar experience. It was 3 years & we were planning on getting married. Well it wasnt about the feelings or spark, he actually struggled with coming to see me for months. I finally had to stop the torture & tell him to leave me alone. 25 years later I got the real answers. He said it was just a choice. He chose a life he didn't think I could live. That was it. It was over. Love didn't matter.

Look at what he was analyzing, or struggling with.



What do you mean by "he chose a life he didn't think I could live?"


Mom & Dad had money, and he was afraid he would be cut off if he married me. So he lived the life mom & dad wanted. Worked for Dad, perfect Catholic boy, and found a wife who didn't have career ambitions but fit the Catholic stay at home mom and who his mother would approve of. I was about to graduate from college, had big career plans & it's as if he set me free to be me.

I suppose he did the right thing. I don't do to well when I feel trapped, that Sag thing.. of course I didn't understand that til I was in my 40's.


You would've hated that life and you would've resented him until you hate him.

It would not have ended well.


You are right. However, I wish he had the balls to tell me the truth when he broke up with me. I took it wrong & my life didn't go so well anyway. It took me 25 years to decide to deal with this & the rest of my life. understanding it makes a big difference, ah communication.... I guess my point here is sometimes it's just hard for them to talk about the real truth.


Maybe he thought you'd try to fight it you know.. mold yourself into that housewife role. That's what I'd be thinking if I were him. I guess for me... it would be better to just let go and maybe let the person hate me for awhile so long as in the end, I don't regret that I've been selfish by dragging her into a life that she would not be happy with.

It's just heartbreaking that it took you so long to see that.
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No. It's not heartbreaking it took HER so long to SEE that. It's heart breaking that jerk, as she said, didn't have the balls to tell her the reason why at the time. He couldn't say "My inheritance matters more to me that what we have, so it's over. Sorry I have to break your heart over money, but..." That was all he had to say.

And the fact he couldn't be a man and stand up to his parents... COWARD!
Posted by Virgorean
Posted by 81gems

I recently had a falling out with a Virgo friend. Had to point out how much of a narcissist and pompous ass he was being. "No wonder you're alone!" I said. I hurt him, and he was depressed for a while. But, he finally got it! Now, If I was a Virgo, I'd expect praise and thanks no matter how butterty he felt. Since I'm not, I apologized. Whole heartedly.


My first instinct was that you must have been hurt by a Virgo because why else the vent?…and well, what do we see here...


Virgo's are too busy telling others how they SHOULD live their lives. They forgot that no one has to live by their rules.


We are not the dictators that you think we are. People ask us for our advice because we tend to be rationale-minded when we give it. We are blunt people and if you don’t appreciate our input then don’t ask. Simply put. You forgot that nobody has to listen to the advice given to them. It’s up to the person to form their own judgement or we like to refer to it as ‘freewill.’


They never apologize. Period. Even when they do, it's probably not because they feel bad. They don't feel anything. Probably more so because they just want to put it in the past already!


Contradicting. First you say we never apologize then you say we do, well which is it?

We apologize a lot. It feels like we don’t because we don’t put in as much emotion as is expected. Sometimes that may lead to us avoiding confrontation to reason that if an apology to you is what will help us move forward then an apology is what you will get. Virgos are also action-oriented-the firm believer that words are merely words unless proven otherwise. We will show our apologies through other ways. Of course we want to put it in the past. The goal is to move forwards, not backwards. Once an issue has been resolved then why bring it up again?


They disappear because they don't want to get hurt. Well really, WHO DOES???


Understandable, but it is human nature as a whole. People have different ways of dealing with their emotions-some are expressive and open about it, others internalize it. The part I don’t agree with is disappearing without a word. It’s decency to at least inform the person that space is needed rather than drop off the radar. A simple notice with no explanation needed. It can prevent a lot of miscommunications and interpretations that I have seen too often occur.


When you throw BS they've said back in their face and confront them, they become cowards. Don't want to address it. You haven't gotten over what they did, so it must be YOUR fault.


We are non-confrontational. You have a better chance of having us understand if you speak diplomatically. Instead of casting accusations such as “You did this” or “You made me” try expressing YOUR feelings “I feel a certain way.”


They think they're the nicest. The most passionate. The best lovers. The smartest. Talk about stroking egos.

In a way they are pretty hypocritical too. Expecting special treatment or allowances for things they'd never let others get away with.

We don’t think that, but we do strive to be the best we can. People have these pre-conceived notions of us based off astrology where they put us up on this pedestal and are expected to act in this manner that they forget we are humans and to err is human. Therefore, when we do make a mistake it’s blown to some grandiose, unspeakable act of epic proportions.
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Your post was great. I hope I don't run out of room replying...

Yes, I was hurt by my Virgo friend. But, to hell with him now. I also have a Virgo brother, and have had other Virgo friends. Men and women. They have all acted in similar ways. Some of them are cool, some of them weren't. I'll say the women were all right. The men, all in time, ended up acting like cookiemonsteres.

And yes, the Virgo's I've known, at times, DID try to tell me how to live my life without my asking. Or they'd do things like "I like this book. I think it would educate you. Why don't you read it? It's insulting to me if you don't read it." It's things like this, and advice that isn't asked for, that I'd rather not be subjected to. I don't need any non-relative trying to mold me into the type of person they think I should be.

I am non-confrontational too. The two Virgo's I've had the biggest problems with were males. I was as non-confrontational as them, but they kept pushing me. More and more. In life, I've learned that, regardless of your sign, if one is going to repeatedly be an ass to someone, sooner or later they're going to have them lash out. The Virgo needs to be prepared to deal with the repercussions of the butter storm THEY helped to create. Not buckle down and run away shouting "leave me alone. I can't take this. I'm too sensitive. You're not diplomatic enough!!!" Everyone reaps what they've sown. Virgo's shouldn't get to be exempt from this by virtue of their sign.

I'm sure you've read enough on here about Virgo's disappearing without a word. You don't agree with it. Great. But it is a flaw of many Virgo's. I'm also sure you've read posts on here about "We're really the most passionate of lovers." or "We really are the nicest of all signs." So, again, ego stroking. Anyone else saying the same thing would be called arrogant, self absorbed, self important, etc.

Virgo's don't want to be told about their mistakes because they beat themselves up over it. Well, too bad. As I've said, no one should get special treatment because of their sign.

If they're sorry, they will apologize with actions. Fair enough. But how about if the person lives far away? Or you're "too busy" to make time to go see them? What's wrong with using words over the phone, or email, or a letter or card? No? beneath some Virgo's I guess?

And maybe that's what I find so off putting about Virgo's. The whole lot of excuses they have for the mistakes they made. The rationalizations they use for the things they don't do and/or should not have done. We're adults. Making excuses and trying to justify crappy mistakes is all right when you're young and dumb. But if you're in your 30's? Or 40's? Gotta do the right thing man. Not just rationalize yourself away.

I am a Gemini with a Virgo moon. I get Virgo's. I've learned from them why I sometimes think and feel and react the way I do. They're OK as a whole. I guess.
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Posted by 81gems
In the end, people legitimately earn their hatred. Virgo's didn't get this memo...

Virgo's are too busy telling others how they SHOULD live their lives. They forgot that no one has to live by their rules.

They never apologize. Period. Even when they do, it's probably not because they feel bad. They don't feel anything. Probably more so because they just want to put it in the past already!

They need time to figure things out, so they disappear. They somehow believe they should get a pass for doing this. Newsflash, no one wants to be "ghosted" for a month or year while you flake ("figure things") out.

They disappear because they don't want to get hurt. Well really, WHO DOES???

When you throw BS they've said back in their face and confront them, they become cowards. Don't want to address it. You haven't gotten over what they did, so it must be YOUR fault.

They think they're the nicest. The most passionate. The best lovers. The smartest. Talk about stroking egos.

In a way they are pretty hypocritical too. Expecting special treatment or allowances for things they'd never let others get away with.

I recently had a falling out with a Virgo friend. Had to point out how much of a narcissist and pompous ass he was being. "No wonder you're alone!" I said. I hurt him, and he was depressed for a while. But, he finally got it! Now, If I was a Virgo, I'd expect praise and thanks no matter how butterty he felt. Since I'm not, I apologized. Whole heartedly.



WAYMENT.
He left you for a month or a year and you allowed him back into your life ???
PAUSE
Am I reading this correctly
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I don't think you read it wrong, but that wasn't what I meant. No, I've never been left by a Virgo. I've never been in a romantic relationship with one.

Posted by yupvirgoo
Posted by 81gems
In the end, people legitimately earn their hatred. Virgo's didn't get this memo...

Virgo's are too busy telling others how they SHOULD live their lives. They forgot that no one has to live by their rules.

They never apologize. Period. Even when they do, it's probably not because they feel bad. They don't feel anything. Probably more so because they just want to put it in the past already!

They need time to figure things out, so they disappear. They somehow believe they should get a pass for doing this. Newsflash, no one wants to be "ghosted" for a month or year while you flake ("figure things") out.

They disappear because they don't want to get hurt. Well really, WHO DOES???

When you throw BS they've said back in their face and confront them, they become cowards. Don't want to address it. You haven't gotten over what they did, so it must be YOUR fault.

They think they're the nicest. The most passionate. The best lovers. The smartest. Talk about stroking egos.

In a way they are pretty hypocritical too. Expecting special treatment or allowances for things they'd never let others get away with.

I recently had a falling out with a Virgo friend. Had to point out how much of a narcissist and pompous ass he was being. "No wonder you're alone!" I said. I hurt him, and he was depressed for a while. But, he finally got it! Now, If I was a Virgo, I'd expect praise and thanks no matter how butterty he felt. Since I'm not, I apologized. Whole heartedly.



was it really wholehearted?

coz you're right here bragging about it

you are ALWAYS on our board talking shyte about us

so you had ONE bad experience with a Virgo FRIEND

nobody told you to apologize but you did, it was your choice and that's the Virgos's fault HOW?

take responsibility for your own choices, actions and emotions coz those aren't on us
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Yes it was wholehearted. I'm not bragging. I'm stating a truth. That isn't bragging.

I never said it was his fault that I apologized. Never implied that either.

I've had more than one bad experience with more than one Virgo. Try several. But in the grand scheme of things, my "bad" experiences aren't even all that bad compared to other things I've been through.
In the end, people legitimately earn their hatred. Virgo's didn't get this memo...

Virgo's are too busy telling others how they SHOULD live their lives. They forgot that no one has to live by their rules.

They never apologize. Period. Even when they do, it's probably not because they feel bad. They don't feel anything. Probably more so because they just want to put it in the past already!

They need time to figure things out, so they disappear. They somehow believe they should get a pass for doing this. Newsflash, no one wants to be "ghosted" for a month or year while you flake ("figure things") out.

They disappear because they don't want to get hurt. Well really, WHO DOES???

When you throw BS they've said back in their face and confront them, they become cowards. Don't want to address it. You haven't gotten over what they did, so it must be YOUR fault.

They think they're the nicest. The most passionate. The best lovers. The smartest. Talk about stroking egos.

In a way they are pretty hypocritical too. Expecting special treatment or allowances for things they'd never let others get away with.

I recently had a falling out with a Virgo friend. Had to point out how much of a narcissist and pompous ass he was being. "No wonder you're alone!" I said. I hurt him, and he was depressed for a while. But, he finally got it! Now, If I was a Virgo, I'd expect praise and thanks no matter how butterty he felt. Since I'm not, I apologized. Whole heartedly.

I posted a while back about problems I was having with a Virgo friend. I told my mother all about it today. She mentioned the word "betrayal." I had never thought of his treatment of me in that way, but I believe she's right.

Eventually, he asked for forgiveness. Just emailed on his own, said "forgive me" and expressed regret. I was surprised. Although I forgave him, (too quickly perhaps?) I really don't know why he bothered.

Since you Virgo's never apologize, when you do, is it sincere? Or do you just do it to get back into someones life because you're bored, not busy at the moment, need a distraction, or such?

And, what constitutes as betrayal to you Virgo's? From good friends and/or best friends? That's what we were. Strictly platonic. None of that FWB bullbutter.

People say and do things when they are angry. They may remain angry for days or weeks. They act out of "righteous indignation."

Later on, they may realize they were a total ass. They regret what they may have said. So, they apologize for it. Simple as that.

What is more complicated is the damage that's been done.

No. No one is responsible for the feelings of anyone else. But, if you give a butter about the person, apologies are important in making reparations.

Trust me, an apology doesn't nullify what you said or did. If you are honest with a person, saying sorry doesn't take away the "honesty" of your words. On the flip side, an apology doesn't take away the brutalness of what you said either. All an apology SHOULD do is show the person you regret hurting them. Realize though, that sometimes, an apology will never be enough. And forgiveness isn't a right.

Another thing is, people have this belief that they're not going to apologize for who they are.

So, the person won't apologize for being a cookiemonster. For being an marker. For being a drunkard. For acting like a petulant child. For being needy, vindictive, vengeful, blunt, sarcastic, arrogant, cold, etc. A person won't apologize for the flaws they let encroach upon their relationships, and ruin them.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

And this is why I hate people.

The end.
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Posted by Teena
I go on a guilt trip if I thought I said something mean even if the other person has been nasty or even if it's someone else's fault to start with. I won't say sorry if it's not my fault. But I always try to reconcile.I don't expect any explanations if someone has done me wrong. I mean... Explanations didn't somehow make more sense than a simple sorry to me ever. I'm letting it go anyway..so they won't make me feel any better. I appreciate it tho. N if I think I did hurt someone, I'd try n explain if confronted coz interpretations can be made very differently n they maybe totally off at times.But I sometimes also just leave it there if I think someone doesn't deserve an explanation.N I would say sorry if I'm really wrong. I'm pretty aware of what I say. So I wouldn't say something if I know it'd hurt someone just like that unless I really want to. I'll try not to say anything which I think I'd regret either way.


So you're the sort to let it go with either sorry or an explanation.

I have a friend whose girlfriend cheated on him with an ex and when he confronted her about it, instead of apologizing she said: "I just don't love you that much, the way that I do him."

This was like salt on the wound to him.

But I said: "Hey at least she explained herself."

He didn't talk to me for months lol.
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I don't blame him. I wouldn't have talked to you for months either.

Explanations and apologies are bull butter when it comes to broken hearts.

Posted by narleycharley94
I think that we are the most passionate lovers of everyone hands down, I think since we are very picky lovers, once we fall for you it's a wrap!
It takes me what seems like an eternity to move on from someone if I fall in love because of the investment.
Do you guys think we are the strongest lovers ? If so would you say it's a gift or curse ?


No.

Stroking the ego again, 'eh? Every Virgo I've known hates pride and arrogance when they see it. Every Virgo I've known has been the best at it. Aside from Leo's. And that Scorpio/Libra dude I know.

"We really are the best at ABC. Virgo's are really the most/best blah, blah, blah."

Whatever.

My brother is the best treetrunk up I've ever known. He's a triple Virgo.

My exfriend is the best marker his family, my family/friends, and I have ever known.

I gotta hand it to you, no one can bring another human to tears, heartbreak, and perhaps suicide with criticism alone quite like a Virgo. And when y'all are wrong, no one is better at skirting around the issue, brushing it aside, and hiding from the truth like a coward than a Virgo.

Yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe you Virgo's really are the "best."

Gemini with Virgo Moon, but I love this kind of stuff so I took the test....

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Posted by gemini64
Posted by Weeds
Not you op I was referring to mister optimistic being too serious. Annnnyyywaaay. ..
On topic.. sometimes a Virgo will intentionally sabotages a friendship.
They have their reasons. Sometimes valid sometimes not. While it takes them time to figure things out on their own. It's hard to fix what they intentionally break.
Loner life style consists of pushing people away.
Comfort zone.


*sometimes a Virgo will intentionally sabotages a friendship.

*Loner life style consists of pushing people away.

Truer words never stated.




not really, we're probably just busy, virgos dont sabotage...loll we save.

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Not relating to any zodiac sign or male/female. Strictly something I've learned as I've aged. "Busy" is bull butter. When one wants to make time for something/someone, they will. I'm not talking about the "busy at work couldn't answer your text" thing. I mean, "Sorry you haven't heard from me in two weeks/months/years. I've been really busy."

bull butter.
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Him getting hit by a car was part of God's plan..if he wants him to live then he will, if he don't, then just hope he wasn't living in sin, because he will be going to hell..thats in the bible


Take the words of your avatar to heart. Please.
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Posted by 81gems
Kept having too many arguments the last couple of years. Landlady living in the house is someone he hates. Every so often he projects yet another despised characteristic of hers on to me.

Late Oct. he called to yell, scream and swear. I had taken too long to mail something I had to make for him that he wanted. Indeed I did take a while, still I thought he was a little excessive since I'd told him just HOURS before this that I was mailing it the next day.

I was pissed and told him so in an email some days later. He ignored everything I said. Continued to ask for another item he wanted. I pressed the issue and it got worse from there. He kept emailing back more and more snide remarks every time. I sent him the damn stuff he wanted and put myself at more of a distance.

He emailed the NIGHT BEFORE Thanksgiving. Said "Happy Thanksgiving" and "Got the stuff. Thanks! Etc., etc., etc....." I didn't check my email until Thanksgiving EVENING I was so busy. By then, he emailed a second time, calling me a cookiemonster for not acknowledging his previous email.

I was shocked and mad. From that point on it got worse. Nothing I said got through. Another reply with another jab from him. I finally had to say my peace and tell him I was done talking. He followed that up with yet another dig.

I am sad that his refusal to see how he acted, and his continued insults finished ruining our friendship. And I'm pissed off with myself for letting all he said bother me to begin with.

I stayed friends with him because it wasn't all bad. He was much nicer a few years ago and we bonded and were pretty decent friends that respected one another. He's all alone and has no family or real, longstanding friends now. The times I felt like ending the friendship before, I never did because I'd always feel guilty. Ugh!


Holy hell, what an marker! You okay?
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Yeah. I'm fine. Thanks for asking.

Posted by DwellingOnMove
so far we had three "I'm tired of" threads for Sags and one for Virgos on DXP.

friends help Saturn master.

Let's look at it positively. Team Sag wins.


Well this guy has a Sag moon, so no. Both teams LOSE!
Kept having too many arguments the last couple of years. Landlady living in the house is someone he hates. Every so often he projects yet another despised characteristic of hers on to me.

Late Oct. he called to yell, scream and swear. I had taken too long to mail something I had to make for him that he wanted. Indeed I did take a while, still I thought he was a little excessive since I'd told him just HOURS before this that I was mailing it the next day.

I was pissed and told him so in an email some days later. He ignored everything I said. Continued to ask for another item he wanted. I pressed the issue and it got worse from there. He kept emailing back more and more snide remarks every time. I sent him the damn stuff he wanted and put myself at more of a distance.

He emailed the NIGHT BEFORE Thanksgiving. Said "Happy Thanksgiving" and "Got the stuff. Thanks! Etc., etc., etc....." I didn't check my email until Thanksgiving EVENING I was so busy. By then, he emailed a second time, calling me a cookiemonster for not acknowledging his previous email.

I was shocked and mad. From that point on it got worse. Nothing I said got through. Another reply with another jab from him. I finally had to say my peace and tell him I was done talking. He followed that up with yet another dig.

I am sad that his refusal to see how he acted, and his continued insults finished ruining our friendship. And I'm pissed off with myself for letting all he said bother me to begin with.

I stayed friends with him because it wasn't all bad. He was much nicer a few years ago and we bonded and were pretty decent friends that respected one another. He's all alone and has no family or real, longstanding friends now. The times I felt like ending the friendship before, I never did because I'd always feel guilty. Ugh!