Treading Water w/ Taurus

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These are our placements:

Him:
Rising: Leo
Sun: Taurus
Moon: Gem
Merc: Taurus
Venus: Aries
Mars: Gem
Jup: Aries

ME:
Rising: Leo
Sun: Cancer
Moon: Aqua
Merc: Gem
Venus: Leo
Mars: Gem
Jup: Sag

We have been dating for over a month now. Things seems to be going great but are moving slow. (I can get a bit impulsive and move too quickly in relationships so dating him is a challenge but a good one). We have not had sex yet but we have kissed and made out. I am 31 and he is 27. We only see each other on the weekend, more like once a week, and we talk on the phone during the week about 3 times a week. After asking, he did inform me that he is dating another person but that he is losing interest in her and she knows it. I did inform him that I am also dating another guy, but that it isn't serious and on the level that I am with him. I would like to see him more often, but I'm not sure how to ask. When I invite him over to my place for a cooked meal or just to hang, he politely declines stating that he had already made other plans but that he will make it up to me. But when we are on our dates, and he has a bit to drink, he tries to make sexual advances, but I control it in not allowing it to go far. He has no children and I have two from a previous marriage (divorced now). I am very hesitant to take our relationship to the sexual level because I have been hurt in the past. I am just plain old scared of my feelings being rejected and hurt. He is such a gentlemen and when we go out he pays every time, when we go out dancing, he shields me from other guys walking by so that they do not bump into me. We held hands walking down the street the first time we met. Might I say, we did meet online. His profile is still active but mines is not. When he asked me why I deleted mines, I told him because I was over online dating and would rather meet someone organically (in person). This weekend I am going salsa dancing with some friends. I told him about it and he said he would drop in to see me. I think he got a little scared because I told him there would be men there lined up to dance with the women, lol.
I told him last weekended via text that I really like him and he said "good to hear". WTF?!?! When I asked him if he had a girlfriend he said "If I did I wouldn't be talking to you". On the 4th of July I was out of town with my kids and he sent me a firework photo and said "Happy 4th, maybe we can go see the fireworks together next year".
Ok.... Ma
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Cancergoddess
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Makes sense. I remember asking him on our second date what he was looking for and he said he wasn't sure... that really threw me for a loop and made me even more hesitant. We went to this restaurant last weekend and he bumped into some of his friends.... It was super acquired. I walked over to the table to the table and sat down while he talked and laughed with his two friends for a good 5 minutes. It was the most embarrassing moment event. When he got back to the table he never mentioned who they were, he just pretended as if nothing happened.

On a good note he is very affectionate and compliments me all the time. He is very stuck in routine though. he calls me every other day and we only talk for about 16-20 mins max lol. During the phone conversation we are planning our next date. I'm just pretty uncertain about him. Which there was more clarity on his behalf though.
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Posted by Cancergoddess
ok wierd... I just sent him a message from the online dating site saying "I'm back on... Have a good day" and his reply was "you too (smiley face + kiss face)"

WTF?!?!?!?

This is now making me very uninterested in him.... I guess he doesn't care.



As a Taurus who was with a Cancer w/Venus in Leo for 7 yrs., my thought is that he's probably never going to cater to you emotionally in the way you desire.
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please explain @tiziani



You just have different communication style s and it's best having found that out sooner rather than later.
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This ^^^^^

If you're waiting for verbal affirmation Cancergoddes (after only one month of dating)....good luck with that one.

1. The two of you are not exclusive. The both of you are seeing other people casually.

2. He's quite consistent with his actions (you haven't stated anything here that indicated otherwise). Actions speaks magnitudes with a Bull.

3. The "I really like you" via text was a bit premature (no offense), if your emotions get the best of you, express them through subtle gestures, and let things flow organically. This works wonders with a Bull. As a Bull myself, I put no stock in sunshine blowing after dating for only one month. Why? It's relatively simple, you don't know me to make that determination.

Like Crabs, Bulls are also romantics, not overly-romanticized or idealistic, but a love that simmers, changes, nurtures and becomes more tangible and reliable over an extended period of time.

I advise you learn patience.
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I have been dealing with a Taurus recently and it is true, it all comes down to your communication style s. They do have trouble expressing themselves verbally and I can understand your frustrations in just wanting to get that affirmation of his feelings or intentions with the relationship. I guess it does come down to your patience and weather or not you have the ability to give him the time he requires. If you feel you need that affirmation, then it might be best to walk away! You can't change how you feel in a situation but you can change the way you deal with it.
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Posted by Cancergoddess
TB1977:
Very true! I do need to learn patience. You stated I should send him subtle gestures? How? please provide examples. He is very consistent and I like that about him. I guess the rest (verbal affirmations) ill just have to wait on. Darn, lol



First, let it be known that making sexual advances towards you when he's intoxicated is a NO NO.
This is a fixed, consistent sign, start out how you're going to keep out. Keep NOTHING to yourself.

Subtle gestures.
1. Total honesty
2. Consistency
3. Lots of affection.
4. Active 'supportive' Ear (be an active listener).
5. Reliability.

Your Taurus and I have the same Moon (Gemini) and Venus (Aries).

5. Intelligent conversations, keep him mentally stimulated.
6. A little sassiness, don't be a doormat.

These are tricky placements for a Bull during the initial stages of dating. We can lose interest quickly.
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Ok... So after he saw that I was back on the dating site two days ago, he called me that afternoon asking me what was up. I had to remind him of the fact that I was single and that him and I did not discuss dating exclusively. He couldn't come up with a response to that one, lol. But it was cute that he mentioned it. I told him about my dentist appt that day and he was concerned about how everything went. I also asked him if he was interested in coming over to my place to watch a movie and chill and he of course politely declined, but reassured me that we would see each other this weekend.

He called me last night as well. He was so eager to tell me about his day and how he had eaten chicken heart and other weird foods at this Vietnamese restaurant. We also discussed sports and stuff. He mentioned to me about two weeks ago how if women only post their faces on their online dating profile pics, that means they are probably morbidly obese and how much he wasn't interested in women like that. He then went on to state how much he liked my body and my sense of style . And how I was confident, etc......

So..... I did some research last night on his IG and found out that there is a girl on there that is following him, but he isn't following her. She is pretty, a bit plump, and only 22 years old.... Her IG is public and she posted a pic of him and her of a date they went on about three weeks ago. I am not sure why he isn't following her, and I am not sure why she would post a pic of the two of them. She's a Virgo by the way.... I was immediately intimidated by this... I looked her up on the same dating i met him on and she is on there.... There is no evidence that they have been on another date since then, but of course I am not sure of it.

I'm naturally insecure about this situation... Should I mention it to him or just continue to go with the flow?
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^^^^^I re-posted this for a reason.^^^^^^

You're putting energy into nurturing your insecurities instead of utilizing the advice that was given to you.

Who cares about the other possibility! Why are you so concerned (intimidated) about this other Virgo?

Taurus Sun/Gemini Moon is one tricky combination.

The Venus in Aries makes it worse.

He can lose interest as quickly as he gained it.

The grass will always be greener on the other side.

He obviously likes you.

Focus on figuring out how you're going to hold his interest.





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Posted by Cancergoddess

How have the men you have been in serious relationships with held your interest? Just curious.... 🙂



For me personally....

I'm drawn to individuals who are intelligent, laid back, practical and have a soothing effect on me.

I prefer to take things real slow.

If things are rushed, I either back out completely, or if I entertain the idea, may lose interest real quick once I don't see longevity or the budding romance fizzles out.

For me, taking it slow and touching base with me 2-3 times wee keeps me intrigued.. A little bit of mystery and consistency works wonders for me.

I don't feel pressured to make a decision, I don't feel boxed in, but the consistency aspect is 'evident' enough to hold my interest.
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Well I'm going to have to bid farewell to the Taurus boards as the man in question and I are no longer talking . After pulling a 3 day disappearing act without answering my question via text message, he suddenly reappeared asking me if I'd invite him over last night. I was shocked that he wanted to come over given the fact that all the other times I offered he declined. So I replied back with yes you're welcome to come over and I told him that I'd like to see a movie before then and that it was my treat. We agreed on a movie theater and plan to see each other at 10:30 PM. Mind you this is all via text, as normally he would've called me so that we can speak over the phone so this was a bit odd. After contemplating in my own head and thinking about how I didn't want us to be in any awkward or peculiar situations I decided to text him back and suggested that instead of coming over that night if we could reschedule his visit to my home next weekend. I also stated that I still wanted us to go to the movies last night. Without hesitating he responded back and said it's fine I'll just have a quiet night in my own house. Then that was it... I even replied and said well would you still like to go to the movies tonight?.... no response. My biggest fear with anyone I'm dating is that I'm going to be used and sex is a big fear in the beginning because I don't want to be used for someone else's pleasure and my feelings not be taken into consideration. The fact that because I asked him to reschedule on coming to my home yet I still wanted us to go to the movies together that night tells me, at least in my own mind, that he thought he was going to have sex and that was the only thing he wanted. It sounds like because he didn't get his way he decided to write me off. he still hasn't responded and as far as I'm concerned his actions were very rude and is not someone I would want to date or have a relationship with. A very interesting experience but I'm glad it's over.
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Whoa Nelly!!!!

Now I have already mentally prepared to get over this taurus hunk and start over with someone new... But lo and behold, this man texts me last night asking me if I was up for chatting with him over the phone. Unfortunatlely (or fortunately) I didn't get his message until this morning. I texted him back said he was welcomed to call me on his lunch break. I haven't heard a response back from him just yet..... What the hell does he want!?!?!?
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OK... So I just got off of the phone with him and he called me to apologize for overreacting last weekend. He stated that he made innacurate assumptions. He said how he was in the past when if situations didnt go as he wanted them to or such, he would just cut the person off without warning and move on. He is trying to grow and communicate better with people. He also stated that he didnt know where to go from here with the both of us because of things that were said. He sounded awfully nervous on the phone. He went on to say that he would call me when I get off of work.
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Before getting off the phone I informed of the reasons why I wanted to postpone him coming over and he understood them. I also left the door open by telling him that in the event he wanted to hangout again, I would be open to doing it. I told him I had no ill feelings towards him and I think he was just having a bad day, which he explained he was a bit moody that day already. So, we shall see where this goes...
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He also stated that he didnt know where to go from here with the both of us because of things that were said.



What were the said things that he was referring to?
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He mentioned the fact that after he decided to ignore my messages, how I left him a message saying" I hope you find what you're looking for." He was a bit upset that I said that because he felt as tho I was writing him off with that statement. Once I explained it to him he understood. As I quoted in the beginning of this post, he originally told me he didn't know what he wanted... So I was really unsure of his intentions. And I was scared... I explained all of this to him and more and he seemed to understand where I was coming.

Let me add that he was super nervous and uncomfortable on the phone.. He was talking and sounded muffled and was studering. It was kind of cute, LOL. I hope he does call me tho.
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Mercury in Taurus, remember.



Are you referring to the communication differences? If so, I knew that already. I also told him of our communication differences and that's when he explained how his communication was really bad in the past and how he is trying to improve it.



How fast do you process information?
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Well my Merc is in Gemini so I believe pretty fast. And I am more of a verbal communicator as he is more of an action (do things for you) type.
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Mercury in Taurus, remember.



Are you referring to the communication differences? If so, I knew that already. I also told him of our communication differences and that's when he explained how his communication was really bad in the past and how he is trying to improve it.



How fast do you process information?



Well my Merc is in Gemini so I believe pretty fast. And I am more of a verbal communicator as he is more of an action (do things for you) type.



Taurus Merc is on the other end: sloooooooooooooooooow, really slow. If you are putting him on the spot with questions, chances are you're not going to get the answers you're looking for and probably he's not giving the answers he wants to give.

I have Taurus Merc, Aries Venus, and Gem Mars. If someone all of a sudden tells me that they like me, I wouldn't know what to do with it unless I can think about it.
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Well then that will make a lot of sense because when I brought up to him the fact that he originally stated he didn't know what he wanted he tried to correct me in saying that wasn't what he meant and that he is looking for a deep connection with someone. I guess it took him a month to finally express that to me, lol. Cray Cray
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No. Just one. It's new to me too. But I'm learning very, very quickly.

I liked reading this thread. I can understand the frustration you initially had and in a way, it's kind of nice that during this time others commented about different communication style s and low and behold, it turns out to be down to communication style s. That's not the sole issue of course but now I read how you've both had a conversation about it all and got it out in the open it feels like a little progress can happen now.

Your post about the phone call is so cute. I was like 'awwww'!!

What I have learnt between me (Scorpio) and the Taurus I'm interested in is that patience is a must. They just don't work as fast as others. It's unfair for me to expect them (or anyone) to work on the same level or in the same way as I do.

This goes for communication style s too. I don't need lots of verbal stuff like others do. I don't place much emphasis on the verbal. I have learnt to look more at the bigger picture and say yeah, I'd like a quicker or more fuller response but if this was someone else like another friend of mine, would I be getting my knickers in a twist because he didn't respond etc? The answer is no. Sh*t happens. Life just gets in the way so that's why I say relax, chill and enjoy more.

I have to admit the hardest thing for me is holding my tongue. I don't know my Taurus very well so it's all learning but if he's not happy about something then boy do I know about it! He'll unleash a tirade (over three texts) but I take a deep breath and ignore it. He really wouldn't want me to retaliate!! I've learnt to be all sweet and smiles and say 'yes dear, no problem dear'. I swear it's so hard!! He actually appreciates that approach and usually he'll apologise after ten minutes anyway. I'm not sure if his 'hot headedness' is due to Taurus sun or his Aries Mercury or a mixture. He's more sensitive than he let's on and can be cranky and defensive sometimes but it's not the end of the world to me. I'm learning to just let stuff go as there's no point in having a fight over nothing. Those Taurus do like their peace and calm! If I do want to address something then I wait a while and set it out in a logical and rational way. It seems to work ok.

I swear though, he made a chauvinist remark during the World Cup about not talking about sport to a girl. He's American, I'm English. I wanted to tear him a new a*sehole considering I know more about football (soccer) than he bloody do
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Ok wow... so the cutest text conversation between the Taurus and I occurred...

Me: "I admire your courage for calling me and communicating with me about what took place Saturday. I know you were a bit uneasy on the phone, lol 🙂. Have a blessed day and I hope to hear from you when you 're ready."
Him: "Thanks, look at you being all nice 🙂 have fun at work, I'll hit you up after"
Me: "I'm a nice person silly, lol. And I'm sorry too if anything I texted you that day offended you. Ttyl"
Him: "I know you're nice, that's why I'm drawn to you 🙂"
Me: "Oh wow, now you have my cheeks hurting lol 😉"


This is the mental stimulation I need... Just subtle verbal hints like these will keep me going and interested. I think he is realizing that.... Darn, if he keeps it up I will be "putty in his hands" (quoting TB1977) 😉
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Nice one cancergoddess :-)

Keep up the chilled and relaxed thing and be light not heavy. That's good advice in general regardless of astrology.

He probably loved that text where you recognised and appreciated his courage. He's a man remember. They need to know they're doing good or getting things right too. Sometimes us ladies can be too harsh on guys, too closed and guarded.

Good job!
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Ok...

So after doing some online research and investigating (I do this with every man I date).... I found out that my Taurus guy is a sibling of a professional basketball player (in the NBA). I know... This sounds very crazy and far-fetched but its true. The only thing is, when I ask him about it, he won't say that it is true or not.

How do I know this information?
Well I was looking at his instagram and saw the people he was following and people who were following him... He is following a pretty famous basketball player and the player is following him as well. Another thing that caught my eye was that they had the same last name. So then I decided to dig a little further.... I looked up the company my Taurus works for and it is his family owned business and the basketball player is listed as the "president" of the company. I then went on to look up the players bio at NBA.com and there was my Taurus' name listed as one of his 5 siblings. I also thought it was suspicious that he lived in this super expensive penthouse in the downtown area and he said he lived with his brother. In the back of my mind I wondered how on earth he and his brother could afford that place. Another give away was in the players bio it says that he is from a certain city and area, and that's the same area my Taurus is from and went to college. Also, my Taurus is 6'6 tall, his brother is 6,11.

My thing is... Why won't he just come clean about it?? I do not care that he has a famous sibling, I think its cool, but I really like him for him and the man he is. This was a piece of our convo last night when I asked him about it.....

Me: "So are you related to anyone famous?"
Him: "We could get married and that could be you 🙂"
Me: "Oh hush, lol"

Are Taurus men the type who don't want to be overshadowed?!?! Why is he keeping it a secret? Does it really matter— No... I'm just being nosey, lol 🙂
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I am not THAT woman at all. I have famous people in my family as well and I shared who they were with him. Also, I think what attracts him to me is my fierce independence. I have my own shit and can take care of myself. I didn't pursue him, he pursued me. I am a divorced mother of two who is doing very well for herself. He is a single, very handsome guy with no children. Sometimes I wonder what draws him to me, but I believe whatever it is, its genuine.
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Jesus, do all the research you want on him but keep your findings to yourself. Don't bloody tell him!! If he doesn't want to volunteer certain info then he doesn't want to volunteer it. There doesn't have to be any ulterior motive for this particular point. It's probably got nothing to do with being overshadowed or secretive. He just doesn't feel it relevant.

Sorry, I just read your post and despite me doing significant amounts of research and investigations on people and companies as part of my job, I do also have that investigative mind to see if prospective dates are who they say they are etc but I NEVER mention ANY of what I have done or found ok. They'll think you're weird, and a stalker!!
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The poor guy can't win!

If he'd have told you about it you'd have thought he was big headed or using it for self gain. As he hasn't told you about it you think he's hiding something.

As the post above says, what difference would it make? None.

That's like when people ask stupid stuff when dating like 'how many people have you slept with?' Or 'when was the last time you had sex?' Or 'have you had a threesome or slept with someone of a different race?' Yeah I've been asked all that and more!

My reply:

How is this information relevant?

They can never answer sufficiently. Dickheads!
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What are you talking about... He is winning! We are still dating and getting to know each other and he seems to still be intrigued. Especially when we had that phone convo and I told him how I wanted our first time to be special and how nervous I was... IDK what happened but something sparked his Venus in Aries and he has been on fire and passionate every since. Please dont take what I posted the wrong way. People tend to do that.... I guess I need to reword my thoughts differently.
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It's text. It's hard to capture the full essence of the point.

My point was he's probably damned if he told you and damned if he didn't! It was a light hearted observation. That's all.

I'm in the same boat as you, I don't know what has sparked my bull off but this week he's laid his cards on the table so to speak and been very open which I've kind of been patiently (very patiently) waiting for over the last few months.

I have to say, it's been rather nice! :-)
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Really? Does that even need to be broken down and explained??

It's a statement!

Dangerous as in when your pretty little brain starts speculating and assuming things it means you think up all sorts of weird and wonderful stuff.

If CancerGoddess is speculating about the reasons the man didn't tell her about his brother then she's going to drive herself mad with all the different theories and still get nowhere.

Really? Did this really need to be spelt out. Not everything is meant literally.
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