The following happened to my best friend in March 2006 (near lunar eclipse time and during mercury retro gate phase):
A very successful and extremely well educated 39 year old guy - never married virgo surgeon met a 33 years old never married successful Capricorn computer engineer girl. Both live in different time zones in different states.
The meeting was arranged by guy's parents with the consensus of girl's parents and of-course the girl. Girl is a very straight forward, loyal, hardworking, career oriented person with typical Capricorn traits and the guy is a typical Virgo- very intelligent, witty, high morals etc. Girl had already fallen for him just looking at guy's profile thinking along similar lines that any career oriented person will not be tricky- seems she was wrong. Note that guy's family was first to approach girl's family as both families thought that the guy and the girl are both busy in career, have same goals, morals etc. if this could have worked, it would have been great.
Before they met in March, communication between two families was going on for 6 weeks from early Feb to mid March, in which the guy NEVER called the girl, but made his parents to get all the details of a girl while making his dad talk to the girl. Q: Why did he do indirect communication, could he be way too insecure/has any ?other? issues?
Guy's dad constantly filled in the gap saying his son is very busy but is a nice guy saving lives of people. Girl is so sincere, she believed every thing. The guy made his parents ask the girl, if the girl will go see him in his state. Girl is a professional person and has to travel to guy's state frequently for business, so she agreed to that and promised that during her next trip she will visit the guy in his state so his noble cause of saving lives will not be interrupted.!!!
Though her heart/sixth sense was telling her perhaps the guy was being forced by his parents to get into this as there was no enthusiasm from the guy to meet a new person. So as always per the Capri trait the girl took the first step and emailed the first email to the guy asking if he was being forced and would like to cancel the proposed first meeting between the two in guy's state. In his first direct communication with the girl, the guy responded to her that he was very much looking forward to see her during her visit.
So, in March 2006, they both met for the first time for dinner. The girl flew business class on corporate business and combined business with personal stuff in the evening as both of them are busy during the day time. Here starts the typical virgo saga: Though the girl knew the guy is very successful, the guy is perhaps so insecure that he came to pick her up for dinner dressed up totally lousy and in a broken car. Q. Do virgos do this drama of not being their own self while doing any thing and testing others if they are materialistic or after their stuff etc.?
The girl is very smart, she can read the mind of this guy and is not much into exteriors but is looking for a quality person. The guy was in anxiety very uncomfortable around her, told her it was 2 years back that he had seen any girl for long term stuff. He complained about his parents to her. Q: Is this being honest or giving the girl hints to get away from him? If so, why in the first place did he agree to meet her?
The girl was told by guy's dad that the guy does not get along well with his mom. BTW- the girl felt fatherly love and support from guy's dad who is very open and balanced to her about every thing and guy's dad had already started treating the girl like a daughter in-law. The guy was so nervous that he kept on talking and talking and did not allow the girl to speak any thing. Girl decided to calm this guy down by keeping extremely cool on her face, not arguing any thing at that moment and did let the guy finish his dinner. He was very hungry, after he fed himself and after talking way long about every thing, he became little quite and told the girl that she should go make some friends and try to explore those possibilities instead of meeting him. He is not that great of a guy. Then he also told her that he had left a voice message to some other girl too, as suggested by his parents to him, before coming to pick her for dinner that evening. Q: Is he checking that whether the girl is also seeing some one else or trying to make her zealous or is basically ?provoking? her to say something?
Girl was stunned, hurt inside, bit angry and sad seeing all these surprise from the guy whom she had respected so much and had thought so much good about him. Any way, she was thinking the guy will say her good bye after the dinner but while dropping her back, the guy told her to email him for next meeting !!!
The girl by now had figured out the following: That the guy was immature, was perhaps involved with some one else, did not know what he is looking for in a mate, is perhaps lying to her for every thing, perhaps not ready to believe that some thing good can happen to him, is perhaps hurt in the past by some one, perhaps his past dealing with his parents have made him believe that any thing his parents are telling him is not good for him etc.. Girl thinks that the fact that they guy does not liking people chasing him, makes him even more attractive to her and is an indication of him being a very good guy, something she had been looking for. Q: The question though is, why is he dragging some other girl in his life's drama? May be he wanted to play tricks with his parents by using her.
Girl also feels that if the guy was with some one, he did not seem that happy with that either, he seemed to be a very negative person himself, unhappy with his own intelligence as he mentioned that because he is intelligent he is still alone!!! That cap girl found this very witty BTW.
Though the girl did not want to meet him, decided in her mind to teach a lesson to this virgo and said yes for the next meeting when it was convenient to both of them. Next day he had surgeries she had presentation and meetings to attend so both did not meet; no call, no talk etc. Third day same thing, no call from the guy /no emails as if he was testing the strength of the girl for if she her self tells no to the guy and he can get the reason to say no to her. Out of the blue in the evening he calls her asking for dinner, at this point there was a dramatic change in him, he was very polite, tried to show care (basically drama) on call to her that he was busy and hence could not get back to her. The girl felt the guy was being sincere, and said yes for the dinner. The guy again came to pick her up, basically he started policing that why did the girl visit him all the way down from her state? He suspected her for her motives. Note that, for this second dinner, he was extremely well dressed up (total contrast from the first meeting), took her to the finest possible restaurant and before the girl speaks any thing he told her that this was not going to work between them as ? he believed she ?chased? him, she treated him as an object and that he felt she charmed out his parents to get him!!! This was stunning for the girl, we all know her as a very very simple and straight forward person.
and straight forward person and busy with her life. In fact she does not meet every road Romeos but to only selected people. She met with the guy due to his education, hardworking and noble career and had so much respect for him. She was not at all chasing him, in fact it would have never occurred to her about chasing stuff, if she was not told so by the guy. She maintained her cool at the restaurant; the guy was looking very angry and perhaps hurt too. She flew back the very next day to her place with a hell worth of an experience. It felt like he had met someone else between two meetings and what ever reasons he was giving her to turn her down were probably taught to him by some one else and he was behaving like a puppet.
In fact it was guy's parents that were after the girl and her family, at some times the girl had sensed that she was being chased by the guy and the guy was playing behind the scenes but was making his parents to get every thing he wanted the girl to do for him. He made her to go visit him then blamed it on to her, did not take any responsibilities of his indirect/no communication/participation in any thing etc. Are virgoes these bad that they don't have soul/conscious to feel about some one else's concerns? The girl sent couple of emails to him explaining the situation for she cared that if the guy will think all the girls are bad, he will never be able to trust any one. Needless to mention there are no feedbacks from him for past 8 months. Girl has stopped communicating but still has many things in her mind unresolved, she will probably not be able to trust any one else soon. Seemed to her, so far the guy must have been playing these sort of tricks to keep his parents happy on the surface by meeting girls showed by his parents and then insulting those girls and telling his parents that the girl quit on him!!. Why would he do this?? May be a reason he is still single, seems like he is over using his brain while under standing people for long term relationships. This time, all his tricks have back-fired and though he is not admitting his mistakes.
Ironically, both are so similar other wise, both are hard working, very intelligent, girl is very mature, guy is like a grown up baby/totally immature, but the girl thinks if the guy is properly trained, he is not that bad of a person by heart. He is witty, just needs some direction to get his life on track. Unfortunately, due to his insecurities, lack of trust for others, immaturity and not admitting to blunder like this, they both will probably loose on each other. Girl is strong willed person, if she wants, she can get the guy on track, question is, is that worth the effort? Should he allow any one to ?help? him or will he be even more suspicious on others? Does not seem though he paid attention to emails she had sent to him, may be he just deleted it. He has completely shut down. She should be given explanation of his behavior by him for he has completely misunderstood her. Q: Is that all due to his parents and they must have refrained from too much interference? Q: Is it some how possible that his parents too were a playing ticks with the son so he does not commit to some one they don't like and instead commit to some one of their choice? Q: Why do people have to play tricks like these with others and mess up with their and others heads?
Q: Why the heck did this happen with both of them? Can universe answer it?
It has not been easy for us friends to get the cap girl out of this bad memories, she has been and still wonders so much about these happenings. She feels this could have worked if there was no misunderstanding in between them. She does regret loosing this great guy for no fault of her own. She has stopped communication with guy's parents?
Q: Should this mess be given one more try to make it work? If yes-how which strategy should be used? Q By any chance, the virgo might have realized his blunder and might be feeling bad for his deeds? Q Finally seems like may it was not meant to work and so is why this drama has happened.
Q: Does this guy seem ?normal??
We have been trying to become so philosophical about this entire episode and explain the cap girl to forget this, but for her it has not been easy to forget?
Suggestions? Comments? Thoughts? May God bless all virgos on the earth and give them common sense so they don't hurt others while creating extremely painful memories for others and be considerate of others.
Suggestions? Comments? Thoughts? May God bless all virgos on the earth and give them common sense so they don't hurt others while creating extremely painful memories for others and be considerate of others.
I would not have any interest in meeting a guy who did not contact me directly and try to get to know me. He has issues and she is weak for caring about him. Move on.
I would not have any interest in meeting a guy who did not contact me directly and try to get to know me. He has issues and she is weak for caring about him. Move on.
May be you are right about moving on and wish that it has been easier for her. I guess its' the mystery of not knowing what was in that guy's head is killing her more than any thing else.
you asked for virgo to analyze the above, how about a cap female's view? cap female is inexperienced with the games people play. seems there is some game the virgo's parents are playing with their son and vice versa. and the virgo has his own game on, with dishonest and distasteful rules. my analysis: a lesson learned - do not go there. he is definately not worth the time. he needs to grow up. decent people do not play games nor do they treat people with such blatent disrespect. abusive traits like his would make a nightmare of a relationship.
yes- you got that right.. The cap girl is inexperienced and hates games.
Also, we all are trying to look for different perspective that- perhaps the guy likes someone else and his parents are forcing him to not pursue that.
That leads to another question- why would they not like their own son's happiness?->why would the son not like his own parents?
Is there a possibility that the guy is really good, but due to his parents he has misbehaved? Why can't he himself deal with his parents?
Are his parents trying cover up something and the virguy is honest or his parents are just getting impatient that he is still single..
Above any thing- can't he atleast apologize for his traits to my friend even though he would not like her for the long term relationship?
We all wish the guy really gets some one who can straighten him up , but our friend does not want to think any body's bad! she avoids us for the ugly truth we tell her that not every career oriendted person needs to be decent, infact intelligent people misuse their intelligence for huritng others without being on surface..
My own father is Virgo but he uses his intelligence for the good of the others and here we are talking about another virgo guy who is well respected under the cover of his profession but in personal stuff absolute zero with absolutely unacceptable arrogance and false ego..
In your long post (book) Capgirl scoring ?10?, Virguy scoring ?0?. what do you want to know more about it— One way judgment about virguy?.! As usual?
Here is MY BOOK?. Excerpts from your book point by point
First
Though her heart/sixth sense was telling her perhaps the guy was being forced by his parents to get into this as there was no enthusiasm from the guy to meet a new person.
At this point you? er?she was already started her melancholy (you calling it sixth sense) without even meet the guy personally and automatically taking apposite position with doubt and negative attitude, tell me.. is there any standard that shows how ??enthusiasm?? should, would be..?
Second
Though the girl knew the guy is very successful, the guy is perhaps so insecure that he came to pick her up for dinner dressed up totally lousy and in a broken car.
I want to ask a question.. did she wanted to have a date with Armani SUIT and BRAND new CAR or him in person as he is..??
?Q. Do virgos do this drama of not being their own self while doing any thing and testing others if they are materialistic or after their stuff etc.?
What drama exactly.—
Third
The girl is very smart, she can read the mind of this guy and is not much into exteriors but is looking for a quality person. The guy was in anxiety very uncomfortable around her, told her it was 2 years back that he had seen any girl for long term stuff. He complained about his parents to her.
Q: Is this being honest or giving the girl hints to get away from him? If so, why in the first place did he agree to meet her?
Of course he's been honest on the first date and telling her the truth? not many people does this nowadays..! its up to her to stop her drama instantly and start to enjoy her first date without any expectations? and then let go of it?
Or perhaps he didn't liked her?!! Perhaps in his eyes she was not up to his standards or expectations, being beautiful and intelligent is not enough.. animal magnetism/attractions are more important, Why don't you put this in your 1001 questions and see it from the V guy's perspective.?
he became little quite and told the girl that she should go make some friends and try to explore those possibilities instead of meeting him. He is not that great of a guy. Then he also told her that he had left a voice message to some other girl too, as suggested by his parents to him, before coming to pick her for dinner that evening.
If she is as intelligent as described above.. She should get the second hint by now that this guy is furious about his family and this arrangement..! ??parental games play??, he was explained himself with his all honesty..! now since when honest people should be named as immature or grown up babies..?
Fifth
The girl by now had figured out the following: That the guy was immature, was perhaps involved with some one else, did not know what he is looking for in a mate, is perhaps lying to her for every thing
Perhaps he wanted to be as gentleman as possible and keep the friendship by emailing her, what is so immature here..?? Care to explain..?
perhaps not ready to believe that some thing good can happen to him
Give me a break?will you..? define the GOOD THING please.. if she ?happen? to him means that it is GOOD..??... wow?!
Q: The question though is, why is he dragging some other girl in his life's drama? May be he wanted to play tricks with his parents by using her.
You've already answered this question: The meeting was arranged by guy's parents with the consensus of girl's parents and of-course the girl?had anyone mentioned HIM and respecting his wishes and counting him as a person and not an animal here..??
Sixth
The guy again came to pick her up, basically he started policing that why did the girl visit him all the way down from her state? He suspected her for her motives. Note that, for this second dinner, he was extremely well dressed up (total contrast from the first meeting), took her to the finest possible restaurant and before the girl speaks any thing he told her that this was not going to work between them as ? he believed she ?chased? him, she treated him as an object and that he felt she charmed out his parents to get him!!!
Again? for the third time he has been totally straight forward and speak out what is in his mind.. it shows clearly he didn't liked the girl?.(ohhhh how immature and childish)?!! Don't you think that people should be in charge of their own life/wishes..??
In fact she does not meet every road Romeos but to only selected people. She met with the guy due to his education, hardworking and noble career and had so much respect for him. She was not at all chasing him
Don't know about you guys? but this sound like chasing to me.
Eighth
The girl sent couple of emails to him explaining the situation for she cared that if the guy will think all the girls are bad, he will never be able to trust any one. Needless to mention there are no feedbacks from him for past 8 months.
How did she know that the guy thinking ??all girls are bad??..? one of her own destructive imaginations again..??
To my book.. this is called emotional blackmailing?, who's chasing who..??
Girl has stopped communicating but still has many things in her mind unresolved, she will probably not be able to trust any one else soon.
It's you.. err.. her own choice to stop playing as martyr or not..!
Seemed to her, so far the guy must have been playing these sort of tricks to keep his parents happy on the surface by meeting girls showed by his parents and then insulting those girls and telling his parents that the girl quit on him!!.
It is her own melancholy; suggestions based on assumptions and wild imaginations..! it has nothing to do with that poor guy.
May be a reason he is still single, seems like he is over using his brain while under standing people for long term relationships.
Again.. give me a break, being single is a PERSONAL CHOICE?now you start acting like his parents and want to analyse why is he still single—
Tell you what.. to avoid having relationship with this type of DRAMA QUEENS?! Your type too (if you are female of course). Checking up and judging people by their social status and advanced profile is futile?Virgo guy was right in the first place.. The Capgirl most probably was attracted by his status and profile and give a rat about him as a person?!! Virgos has this ability to find the truth? some are damn fast?
I've been there in the similar situation before as well?!
Ironically, both are so similar other wise, both are hard working, very intelligent, girl is very mature, guy is like a grown up baby/totally immature
Again.. you are judging people without knowing them in person.. simple fact? the guy don't want her (for some obvious reason)? why are you? err.. Capgirl insisting on him so much..??
but the girl thinks if the guy is properly trained, he is not that bad of a person by heart. He is witty, just needs some direction to get his life on track. Unfortunately, due to his insecurities, lack of trust for others, immaturity and not admitting to blunder like this, they both will probably loose on each other.
Thank you for defending Virgos so hard. Re-read the following:
So as always per the Capri trait the girl took the first step and emailed the first email to the guy asking if he was being forced and would like to cancel the proposed first meeting between the two in guy's state. In his first direct communication with the girl, the guy responded to her that he was very much looking forward to see her during her visit.
* WHY DID THE GUY AGREE TO MEET HER IN THE FIRST PLACE AND START THIS NONSENSE? THIS IS A MYSTERY FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND!! will love it if you can shed light on that.
* 2. YOU MISUNDERSTOOD... GIRL IS VERY MUCH CAPABLE HERSELF. AND CAN EVEN SUPPORT 5 MORE PEOPLE IF NEEDED BUT SHE IS A LOW PROFILE PERSON, TILL PEOPLE KNOW THE REAL HER, THEY WON'T KNOW THE QUALITY.THE GUY IS INSECURE... JUST BY BEING HIS OWN SELF WITHOUT ON PURPOSE COMING IN WITH BROKEN CAR WAS A STUPIDITY. IF HE DID THAT ONCE, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT SECOND TIME AS WELL. THE DRAMATIC CHANGE IS THE DISPLAY OF HIS INSEACURITIES. THE QUESTION HERE IS ABOUT RELIABILITY AND CONSISTENCY NOT THE CAR OR SUIT. SHE CAN'T BE WON BY SHOWING THOSE MATERIALISTIC TRAITS WHICH SHE KNOWS ARE replaceBLE AND CAN BE FOUND ANY WHERE AND PRETTY EASILY.
DOES IT EVER OCCURE TO YOU GUYS WHY LADY DIANA HAD PROBLEMS? She had name, fame, money and every thing, she lacked love. So were the issues in her personal life, the prince gave her every thing except for what whe NEEDED- that is called LOVE. you guys try to "test" and judge people by flashy OR broken cars. Wow- impressively "HIGH STANDARD" to "judge" people.
* 3. we all have a feeling he has been honest and yes he can ofcourse not like her. That is not the issue here. The issue is, how he blaimed every thing on her and did not take responsibility of his traits. He is not fair. He actually used his parents to get all the details of that girl and I bet his ego won't let him admit that. He was trying to fool his parents.
* WHAT "HIGH STANDARDS" HE HAS OF NOT DEALING WITH HIS PARENTS AND ALSO ON THE SURFACE DOING WHAT HIS PARENTS SAY BUT IN REALITY DOING THE OPPOSITE. SEEMS HE HAS HIDDEN AGENDAS!
* about 5. being "gentle man" ?!!!! I beg your pardon... He had very offending coments for certain types of girls. He was since the beginning perhaps biased and probably CONFU
FINALLY THE TYPICAL VIRGO TRAIT - BEING SUSPECIOUS- "IF IT NOT ABOUT YOU "....BLAH BLAH BLAH...
Yes - every one must be in charge of his/her own life. Why can't he explain that to his parents instead of using that girl?
What's wrong with him/his or both parties parents that they can't understand that?
* 7th: The term "chasing"- I love it!!! for it's own reasons..
"Selected people" is not just the so callled "status" thing for her. It also means how to behave in society or with others. How to listen to others views too and not to mention how to be a gentle man and also convey NO without making offending comments to any one's character without knowing them for a longer time. One can't jump to a judgement in a blink of eyes and not understand the difference between apples and oranges.
I bet he has never come across any nice person that has translated in thinking the same about every one. Every single person is different.
* item # 3: animal magnetism/attractions are more important: Agreed- about the so called chemistry thing..
Per my friend, this Vir guy is not that type though. He is a quality person and it won't be easy for Miss world to have this vir guy drawn to her just for her being beautiful.
* It's Virgos who judge others.Opinios are always welcome, but most virgos tend to be self appointed "judges" and instead of playing behind the scene freaking games, why can't they "speak up" in plain English to their parents or to any one?
regardless of sunnnn signssss... a mature one will, if they love you. and if that love is real, they will swallow (whatever they call that) and work things through that's been going on in your "relationship". if you can't get that or they're completely gone.. you don't need to prove anything.. there's no other explanation for this, it's pretty simple.
What you said is based on your own feelings and recognitions about the Capgirl? I am 100% sure if you were on the Virguy's side you would say differently..!
Back to your earlier post?!
Who am I to defend Virgos..?? I am not defending but explaining your ??one way POST and judgment?.. true? I don't know your Capgirl personally? she might be work of wonder? but the same applies to you too.. Do you know her Virguy personally..??
If not, then why are you judging him..?... Worse?blame it all on his Virgoness? not as an individual? not as a person.. Not as a some guy? you kept emphasising on his star sign more than this guy's own personality..! Do you see this experience from the other guy's perspective too.?? You are the judge... and judges are always listening to the both sides of the story?.unless they are corrupt?.. !
Tell me ? what does this life story of the princess Diana to do with this thing..??
On the other hand.. would this Capgirl of yours, willing to date a building janitor because of the love thing..?
NEVER? as the princess Diana never did.. She got rid of one rich bastard and hang out with the another rich bastard later on..?!! all because of LOVE of course, love of money and fame..!
Male's status, social engagements and fames are more interesting stuff for some (similar ladies) than love and true romance?.as you've described A very successful and extremely well educated 39 year old guy - never married virgo surgeon (sounds like adds to me thou).? Anyway, turn this into a janitor and see if she's still interested..!
NOT a Chance for this life time..! so don't be loud and shout about LOVE and longing here..!
Does anyone give a rat about the janitor's love and feelings when he is rejected?..??....puh?. who do you kidding..?
Again? you wrote.guy is a typical Virgo- very intelligent, witty, high morals etc. Girl had already fallen for him just looking at guy's profile..
Do I have to say anything more..?... the whole damn line oozes of materialistic agendas and goals.. ? It's all about her wild imaginations and materialistic expectations?.! Everyone gets disappointed if things don't go their ways?
And like I said.. Both guys are victims of their parent's expectations and dreams?.wake them up into reality instead?Capgirl and Virguy don't need any support or compassion, if they are allowed to decide to take control of their own future..!
**"Anyway, turn this into a janitor and see if she's still interested..!"...
You know - YES she will be, I'll check with her tomorrow at work (Ya-She is working even tomorrow though tanksgiving holidays are nearby) .. She believes in a guy who did every thing by him self,be it's building a career/castle/a paper boat!!, which is the indication of any one's dedication and hardwork or doing any thing else HONESTLY... That does include any past mistakes, but you gotta be HONEST to her. As long as the person is supporting himself on his own and not stealing any thing from any one (like currpted politicians) she will be fine with him, actually I bet she will support her guy thru thick and thin and encourage him constantly.She will keep every thing ready and do every thing possible for her guy to support him.
BUT,even if she will like some one so much or may be even in love with that person, she will NOT let the person get away with murder. Another words, even if I am her best friend, she will be the first one to show me my mistakes, just because I am her friend she won't close her eyes on my bad deeds.
She has been one weirdest creature in our circle, hard to understand,not easy to know and mixes with a few people, kind a shy, if you do fight with her, she will for most of the time leave the room, cry in a corner and hurt her health but most of the time not get into arguments with any one.Later on though,she will make her point quietly when no one is angry or is past the anger phase.. Don't know how she can keep her cool most of the time..
**guy is a typical Virgo- very intelligent, witty, high morals etc. Girl had already fallen for him just looking at guy's profile..
Do I have to say anything more..?... the whole damn line oozes of materialistic agendas and goals.. ? It's all about her wild imaginations and materialistic expectations?.! Everyone gets disappointed if things don't go their ways?
You may be right here, she has the tendancy of just assuming that any one who has a good career must be a good person. We all have discovered that any one's high career is her major weakness, she looks for education for that she believes educated person will be open minded, looks for good family values for she will be a part of that family down the road. She is a goal oriented person, but she sets goals for herself and I know any of her goals do not include taking any one's advantage for any thing, I th
for any thing, I think she is self sufficient.Materialistic, again she has already bought gems for herself by herself- does not need any one to buy that for her. Infact she will be scared away if some one will shower her expensive gifts and will complain that any one who "tried" to give her that great of a gift,must have bad motives..Similarly, when she gives a gift that's always very thoughtful and practical..
That special gem she is looking for, we feel she has been very unlucky so far in the process, some times she misunderstood people and other times people misunderstood her... We feel she is looking for a ruby in rough rocks and let's see how that turns out. She has terrific patience and is strong, can wait for the right guy for as long as it takes..
** Capgirl's family is fine.Very outgoing and broadminded. We don't know that guy's family. In any case though, if the guy is not getting along with his family, she will probably not get into that, as that will be a major TRUST issue for her. She will think if the guy is not good with his parents, what can she expect from him as a father of her children in future? She is damn matured!!!
** About Lady D.. You are a virgo who will mostly NOT FEEL and I won't be able to make you FEEL that, what she lacked. She did not have only one jerk she was going between multiple affairs, she hated a relationship full of artifical rules, orthodox thinking and she was a teacher of kids.. She was a regular person , not a robot, who once in a while needed love,care,RESPECT and most importantly HONESTY. To being with prince had extra marital affairs that led Lady D. to the trash. She , like Mrs. Clinton was stronger to keep her marriage on track in the beginning. most Virgos can't/won't understand Lady D's behavior. (my dad can think of water coming out of my mom's eyes if she "cries" but won't FEEL the emotional part behind it for why she cried,he is a virgo too, he would think she is being unnecessarily very emotional)...
Finally... (sounds like adds to me thou).?... REALLY—?Do surgeons have that free of a time on hand? If so, May I intervene your privacy by asking - did you meet any one in March 2006? If YES- and if you REALLY are the same "jerk" (ya we all have nick named that guy a "jerk" naturally can't tell that to our cap friend), then hey MAY BE the universe is trying to tell something—— Care/dare to respond?
She still believes that LOVE is just a state of mind and like all other state/s this state changes too. WE believe this time, she is clean bold and probably have started caring about that jerk so much, IS probably in LOVE but won't admit..For her that is loosing her "self-control".. Or may be she is controlling herself for not getting too much into it, for as that has not worked, she will not be able to like any one. She has the concept of LOVE slowly evolving, starting as friends, then goes into steady state, then attachment gorws and then the "love" part. To her impulsive love is not long lasting. In love there will be suffering, adjustment from both along with compromises to be made and ofcourse there will be SACRIFICES to make for each other and for family. To her true LOVE and ROMANCE in real life may not always be as per Hollywood "STANDARDS"!!! but based on the real life scenarios..
Romance, ah-ha, we had a long discussion once, she will prefer a guy who can be a bread winner for family rather than a romantic poet!!!like I said, she is weired. She won't write love songs but the way she will do things for people will show that she cares for them..But she metions she would like to have that experience of incredible LOVE and romance - talk about it!!!
regardless of sunnnn signssss... a mature one will, if they love you. and if that love is real, they will swallow (whatever they call that) and work things through that's been going on in your "relationship". if you can't get that or they're completely gone.. you don't need to prove anything.. there's no other explanation for this, it's pretty simple.
ADMITTING MISTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOVE. IT'S ABOUT NOT ATTACKING ON SOME ONE'S SELF RESPECT WITHOUT PROPERLY KNOWING THEM. HELL WITH THE LOVE AND RELATIONSHIP BUSSINESS, A HEART FELT APOLOGY,ACTUALLY MAKES THE PERSON MORE RESPECTABLE FOR ADMITTING HIS/HER MISTAKES! SORRY, WHEN I MAKE A MISTAKE, KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY, I ADMIT IT TO ANY NO OF PEOPLE AND NOT AFRAID OF IT!!!
Maybe the cap female was mostly intriuged by the "life/death doc." part of the man. After all, a person who on a daily basis deals with this stuff, well, that's a whole journey in itself.
How can you be so sure, unless the whole story is all about you..!
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Anyway..
You've asked ?analyse this? and what I wrote was about how I perceived the situation according to my own perspective.. don't take it personally?!
Capricorns and Virgos are very similar beast in personality/socially/privacy (according to astrocrap mumbo jumbos)? so basically, what you are accusing the Virgos for goes for the Capricorns as well ?more or less??.!
May I intervene your privacy by asking - did you meet any one in March 2006?
What about March 2006..?? As a person as I am, I'll date anyone at any time if/when I wanted to and I am not allow myself to be darkened/lightened or influenced by any events, what I feel is who I am? what I say is what I think and what am I reacting to ?positive or negative? is how I perceiving according to my feelings and thoughts, but tell me; am I obliged to meeting someone more than a couple of times if I feel that she is not up to my standards after all..?? why in the hell someone should call me a JERK if I say ?sorry lady.. I am not going to waste mine and yours time?after a week dating??
Is that game playing..?? or being insensitive..? Am I disrespecting that lady by respecting myself and telling her the truth..?
You (sensitive ladies) ever give up this bullshit.? shall I call that lady a JERK if the situation was vice versa..?? NEVER.. why?? because she wasn't interested in me and that's it, shall I make a drama out of it..??
When you are accusing Virgos that they don't have any feelings is because you don't know a damn thing about Virgos and how they are?here we go again?mine is better than yours tread?!
As they say:
?We get annoyed with people because we see something in them that annoys us about ourselves?
You can not control anyone but yourself and that's the universal law for everyone, everywhere in this planet, you want to argue about this.??
You are confusing me when you mixing this story with Princess Diana again, are you talking about lack of love (self love)? or lack of to be loved (by others)..?
If this Capgirl suffering the ?lack of love? then it is her own personal problem if she wanted to be successful in that front she should start practicing ?self love? and ?self respect? to begin with?.. then expecting to be loved by someone else.
However?.. as you mention it..
A HEART FELT APOLOGY,ACTUALLY MAKES THE PERSON MORE RESPECTABLE FOR ADMITTING HIS/HER MISTAKES!
I agree with that statements and you are right about this part?!
Now? How about that I apologising on Virguy behalf (as a Virgo) about his unpleasant behaviour..?? makes you happier..??.. comeon?I see that smile..
regardless of sunnnn signssss... a mature one will, if they love you. and if that love is real, they will swallow (whatever they call that) and work things through that's been going on in your "relationship". if you can't get that or they're completely gone.. you don't need to prove anything.. there's no other explanation for this, it's pretty simple.
ADMITTING MISTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOVE. IT'S ABOUT NOT ATTACKING ON SOME ONE'S SELF RESPECT WITHOUT PROPERLY KNOWING THEM. HELL WITH THE LOVE AND RELATIONSHIP BUSSINESS, A HEART FELT APOLOGY,ACTUALLY MAKES THE PERSON MORE RESPECTABLE FOR ADMITTING HIS/HER MISTAKES! SORRY, WHEN I MAKE A MISTAKE, KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY, I ADMIT IT TO ANY NO OF PEOPLE AND NOT AFRAID OF IT!!!
why are you so affected with this particular person in your life? if they can't admit their mistakes, who cares?
**How can you be so sure, unless the whole story is all about you..!
AGAIN- Virgo trai of being INSECURE. I said I will ask her- I did in a casual joke. Here is what she had to say "will the Janitor like to date her, for that his MALE EGO will not be hurt by seeing his girlfriend making more than him".. I could not answer.
**what I say is what I think and what am I reacting to ?positive or negative?.... It's not about him not liking her. It's about how he conveyed that message to her and though he was also playing very smart behind the scenes, he acted as if he knew nothing.
**You did not answer that repeatedly asked question- WHY IN THE FIRST PLACE DID HE MEET HER? so have fun, scan her or complain about his parents?
**?We get annoyed with people because we see something in them that annoys us about ourselves?
Ya - your right, as he must be chasing people, he got this "idea" that he was being chased. Seems to me HE WAS CHASING HER not vice versa.. Bet next time he will careful of playing these sort of games..
**You are confusing Virgos are ALWAYS consfused of every thing and complicate things unnecessarily..
**Now? How about that I apologising on Virguy behalf (as a Virgo) about his unpleasant behaviour..?? makes you happier..??.. comeon?I see that smile..
PLEASE stop charming people... Another Virgo trait!!
Me and my friend both, hate when some one have to say sorry to us, why in the first place did they make mistake that they had to be sorry about??
May God blace all virgos and help them for not over analysing normal things of life, else their own suspecious nature will deprive them of many great things in their lives, this is just one phase of life..
Maybe the cap female was mostly intriuged by the "life/death doc." part of the man. After all, a person who on a daily basis deals with this stuff, well, that's a whole journey in itself.
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Tripod,
yes - dealing with life/death on a daily basis in itself could be another journey... Also, may be you are right that she liked him due to the man part of him saving lives. She is strong and looking for some one even stronger than her, which she felt this guy was..
I don't see that wrong though... As being a wife of a good doctor can be challenging itself at times, for running the home front most of the time by her self while he will be saving lives/doing humanitory work.. Note that though- not ALL doctors can be good, i.e. plastic surgeons are probably most unethical creatures making money by improving external beauty of women..America's latest obsession..
She did not like that sort of doctors or lawyers for she does not believe in going after status/money stuff...
Per your suggestion below, this is being posted on Capricorn link too. Let's see what do these ladies have to say ...!!
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you asked for virgo to analyze the above, how about a cap female's view? cap female is inexperienced with the games people play. seems there is some game the virgo's parents are playing with their son and vice versa. and the virgo has his own game on, with dishonest and distasteful rules. my analysis: a lesson learned - do not go there. he is definately not worth the time. he needs to grow up. decent people do not play games nor do they treat people with such blatent disrespect. abusive traits like his would make a nightmare of a relationship.
The following happened to my best friend in March 2006 (near lunar eclipse time and during mercury retro gate phase):
A very successful and extremely well educated 39 year old guy - never married virgo surgeon met a 33 years old never married successful Capricorn computer engineer girl.
Both live in different time zones in different states.
The meeting was arranged by guy's parents with the consensus of girl's parents and of-course the girl. Girl is a very straight forward, loyal, hardworking, career oriented person with typical Capricorn traits and the guy is a typical Virgo- very intelligent, witty, high morals etc. Girl had already fallen for him just looking at guy's profile thinking along similar lines that any career oriented person will not be tricky- seems she was wrong. Note that guy's family was first to approach girl's family as both families thought that the guy and the girl are both busy in career, have same goals, morals etc. if this could have worked, it would have been great.
Before they met in March, communication between two families was going on for 6 weeks from early Feb to mid March, in which the guy NEVER called the girl, but made his parents to get all the details of a girl while making his dad talk to the girl. Q: Why did he do indirect communication, could he be way too insecure/has any ?other? issues?
Guy's dad constantly filled in the gap saying his son is very busy but is a nice guy saving lives of people. Girl is so sincere, she believed every thing. The guy made his parents ask the girl, if the girl will go see him in his state. Girl is a professional person and has to travel to guy's state frequently for business, so she agreed to that and promised that during her next trip she will visit the guy in his state so his noble cause of saving lives will not be interrupted.!!!
Though her heart/sixth sense was telling her perhaps the guy was being forced by his parents to get into this as there was no enthusiasm from the guy to meet a new person. So as always per the Capri trait the girl took the first step and emailed the first email to the guy asking if he was being forced and would like to cancel the proposed first meeting between the two in guy's state. In his first direct communication with the girl, the guy responded to her that he was very much looking forward to see her during her visit.