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He wants to go eat. I'm not hungry anyway, I carry all my stress in my gut, food is NOT what I want. I bring the key out and set it by the TV and walk away.
He walks by me headed to the bathroom. He's been trying and trying to get a damn response out of me and he says (kinda nasty too) "so you want me to leave?". I replied. I probably shouldn't have. But I did none the less. "Of course I don't want you to leave!". I get back, "Then you're going to dinner with me!". Me: "NO". He slams the door on the way out.
He walks by me headed to the bathroom. He's been trying and trying to get a damn response out of me and he says (kinda nasty too) "so you want me to leave?". I replied. I probably shouldn't have. But I did none the less. "Of course I don't want you to leave!". I get back, "Then you're going to dinner with me!". Me: "NO". He slams the door on the way out.
And yes, he was demanding I go to dinner with him, it wasn't a question.
Why the frick would I put myself in that position? I don't want to argue and that's all this man seems to know. He doesn't listen to reason and I am simply always wrong no matter what. Even my explaining that the fact that I I don't understand the situation prompted the question put me in the wrong. So, I'm wrong for asking, and I'm wrong because I'm trying to learn something. Because I wouldn't say it was wrong of me to ask the question (as it wasn't!) then I was being obstinate.
Why the frick would I put myself in that position? I don't want to argue and that's all this man seems to know. He doesn't listen to reason and I am simply always wrong no matter what. Even my explaining that the fact that I I don't understand the situation prompted the question put me in the wrong. So, I'm wrong for asking, and I'm wrong because I'm trying to learn something. Because I wouldn't say it was wrong of me to ask the question (as it wasn't!) then I was being obstinate.
Just venting guys, I don't talk to my friends in RL about this sort of stuff, so you all are my out.
lildol5/21/2011 12:29:42 PM | IP
female from the abyss of confusion
He already knows that the Pisces has tried to contact me...
Uhmmm ,maybe this is part of the problem.If your Virgo is so insecure this doesn't help in any way shape or form.He might think that he is now a third wheel.He might feel like he's waiting for you to boot him.Sure 99% of yourself may have no interest in the Pisces. Just that fact that the Pisces didn't take your "nos" strong enough to leave you alone is enough to make the Virgo question the depth and direction of your relationship.He probably feels there is no reason to behave himself.You may think that you have made it clear to the Pisces that it is over ,obviously it wasn't strong enough.If that 1% of you thinks that this is a way to punish or make the Virgo jealous,you may find yourself sleeping in the barn long enough to have your mail start coming there.A Virgo feels if you are not committed to a committed relationship ,then what is the point to having it.You've now just become a warm body that's nearby.We'll send you THAT message quite clearly.
Actions speak volumes to us.If you are not being as harsh as you can with the Pisces ,the he may see it as you really didn't try hard enough to break that former tie.That speaks volumes.If you say that you don't want to crush the Pisces,that says you still have a connection.It's not that we will see you as a monster if you shut the ex-whatever down,we will see you as being unable to commit to the present and un able to make up your mind.And if you don't get the old partner/situation squared away within a reasonablely quick time frame,then we get the real and clear picture of what we actually mean to you.We may not pack up that night,but we will let you know in steps that we are done here.
If you won't/don't make it clear to the Pisces,that "no we still can't be friends",you might as well leave the Virgo alone.If you don't, your action of keeping the Pisces in the loop whether it be third or forth hand contact,is still too much contact for a Virgo.You've have sent a clear message to the Virgo that he is part of your collection,and not partnership worthy.Yes,Caps like to network,and have resources,however I bet everyone else that you've ever had a connection with is not still in the picture.Maybe deep down if you can't "tame" the Virgo,then you want him to go.In that case it shouldn't be long.Which then? Virgo or Pisces? Just saying.
female from the abyss of confusion
He already knows that the Pisces has tried to contact me...
Uhmmm ,maybe this is part of the problem.If your Virgo is so insecure this doesn't help in any way shape or form.He might think that he is now a third wheel.He might feel like he's waiting for you to boot him.Sure 99% of yourself may have no interest in the Pisces. Just that fact that the Pisces didn't take your "nos" strong enough to leave you alone is enough to make the Virgo question the depth and direction of your relationship.He probably feels there is no reason to behave himself.You may think that you have made it clear to the Pisces that it is over ,obviously it wasn't strong enough.If that 1% of you thinks that this is a way to punish or make the Virgo jealous,you may find yourself sleeping in the barn long enough to have your mail start coming there.A Virgo feels if you are not committed to a committed relationship ,then what is the point to having it.You've now just become a warm body that's nearby.We'll send you THAT message quite clearly.
Actions speak volumes to us.If you are not being as harsh as you can with the Pisces ,the he may see it as you really didn't try hard enough to break that former tie.That speaks volumes.If you say that you don't want to crush the Pisces,that says you still have a connection.It's not that we will see you as a monster if you shut the ex-whatever down,we will see you as being unable to commit to the present and un able to make up your mind.And if you don't get the old partner/situation squared away within a reasonablely quick time frame,then we get the real and clear picture of what we actually mean to you.We may not pack up that night,but we will let you know in steps that we are done here.
If you won't/don't make it clear to the Pisces,that "no we still can't be friends",you might as well leave the Virgo alone.If you don't, your action of keeping the Pisces in the loop whether it be third or forth hand contact,is still too much contact for a Virgo.You've have sent a clear message to the Virgo that he is part of your collection,and not partnership worthy.Yes,Caps like to network,and have resources,however I bet everyone else that you've ever had a connection with is not still in the picture.Maybe deep down if you can't "tame" the Virgo,then you want him to go.In that case it shouldn't be long.Which then? Virgo or Pisces? Just saying.
GOTCHA!!!
just present the question in a different way but his reaction is a bit severe
what is going on around him in work, peers, family, etc?
what is going on around him in work, peers, family, etc?
Posted by zeoblade
just present the question in a different way but his reaction is a bit severe
This is a textbook communication misunderstanding between men and women, happens SO OFTEN, and causes so much freaking unnecessary grief.
Women ask a question in an emotional/bitchy manner yet their purpose is usually NOT to attack the man with it (they are just feeling emotional at that moment so they cant possibly ask a question in a cool and collected manner). The man however rather than focus on the content of the question, feels attacked due to the tone and fires back at her. The woman doesnt understand why he's attacking her when she "only" asked him a question (in her mind) and gets upset. Man doesnt understand why she gets upset when she was the one who started the emotional stuff. Woman doesnt understand why the guy cant simply answer her question.
Seriously, this happens way too often.
Women are emotional beings, there is no way a man can change that. However what the man can do is realise he's THE MAN, so he's not supposed to get bitchy like a woman but rather be her rock, stay cool and NOT take things personally!
I thought this is what the dynamics of a man/woman relationship are supposed to be!
I thought this is what the dynamics of a man/woman relationship are supposed to be!
Hey, you sound like you've gotten over your anti-hippie feelings 😛
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
This is a textbook communication misunderstanding between men and women, happens SO OFTEN, and causes so much freaking unnecessary grief.
Women ask a question in an emotional/bitchy manner yet their purpose is usually NOT to attack the man with it (they are just feeling emotional at that moment so they cant possibly ask a question in a cool and collected manner). The man however rather than focus on the content of the question, feels attacked due to the tone and fires back at her. The woman doesnt understand why he's attacking her when she "only" asked him a question (in her mind) and gets upset. Man doesnt understand why she gets upset when she was the one who started the emotional stuff. Woman doesnt understand why the guy cant simply answer her question.
Seriously, this happens way too often.
i get that but we men can see through these emotions, especially after being with a scorpio. i dont really get aggressive in return, my ex actually wished i would become more reactive towards her but i really couldnt react unless there's been some injustice and if she's climbing on my head and trying to punch and bite my shoulder because someone else frustrated her, i cant see any need to retaliate. its not me she was angry at. but she did need to let the energy out and it helps if i analyse what happened to her step by step to see which point in the incident process she can seek some justice for the emotional upset she experienced as a result of that person
be it scorpio or women in general,they have a difficulty in converting energy and it accidentally directs to their emotion. us men have a physical method of converting energy so stress doesnt accumulate. sometimes women, especially submissive types dont know how to express their frustration at their aggressor. it really helps them and helps the relationship if you guide them how to confront and subjugate that aggressor. especially with role play, i find scorpio really responds to that and after a few practices, can confront their aggressor by themselves without you being by their side.
man and woman are partners and team work is essential. if man allows woman to use him as a safe to protect from their aggressor, then she feels more confident. also because man is the temple of her emotions, woman views him as her holy place and treats him pretty damn good. the same goes for wom
Posted by zeobladePosted by BoomShakalakaBoom
This is a textbook communication misunderstanding between men and women, happens SO OFTEN, and causes so much freaking unnecessary grief.
Women ask a question in an emotional/bitchy manner yet their purpose is usually NOT to attack the man with it (they are just feeling emotional at that moment so they cant possibly ask a question in a cool and collected manner). The man however rather than focus on the content of the question, feels attacked due to the tone and fires back at her. The woman doesnt understand why he's attacking her when she "only" asked him a question (in her mind) and gets upset. Man doesnt understand why she gets upset when she was the one who started the emotional stuff. Woman doesnt understand why the guy cant simply answer her question.
Seriously, this happens way too often.
i get that but we men can see through these emotions, especially after being with a scorpio. i dont really get aggressive in return, my ex actually wished i would become more reactive towards her but i really couldnt react unless there's been some injustice and if she's climbing on my head and trying to punch and bite my shoulder because someone else frustrated her, i cant see any need to retaliate. its not me she was angry at. but she did need to let the energy out and it helps if i analyse what happened to her step by step to see which point in the incident process she can seek some justice for the emotional upset she experienced as a result of that personclick to expand
Why didnt you just hug her in those moments? Thats what she means by wishing you were more reactive. She just needed to feel understood, she didnt need you to analyse her feelings. If she was looking for something like that she would have gone to Dr Phil.
Posted by zeobladePosted by BoomShakalakaBoom
This is a textbook communication misunderstanding between men and women, happens SO OFTEN, and causes so much freaking unnecessary grief.
Women ask a question in an emotional/bitchy manner yet their purpose is usually NOT to attack the man with it (they are just feeling emotional at that moment so they cant possibly ask a question in a cool and collected manner). The man however rather than focus on the content of the question, feels attacked due to the tone and fires back at her. The woman doesnt understand why he's attacking her when she "only" asked him a question (in her mind) and gets upset. Man doesnt understand why she gets upset when she was the one who started the emotional stuff. Woman doesnt understand why the guy cant simply answer her question.
Seriously, this happens way too often.
be it scorpio or women in general,they have a difficulty in converting energy and it accidentally directs to their emotion. us men have a physical method of converting energy so stress doesnt accumulate. sometimes women, especially submissive types dont know how to express their frustration at their aggressor. it really helps them and helps the relationship if you guide them how to confront and subjugate that aggressor. especially with role play, i find scorpio really responds to that and after a few practices, can confront their aggressor by themselves without you being by their side.
man and woman are partners and team work is essential. if man allows woman to use him as a safe to protect from their aggressor, then she feels more confident. also because man is the temple of her emotions, woman views him as her holy place and treats him pretty damn good. the same goes for womclick to expand
Its not about what you think women should be like in an ideal world full of logic. This is the nature of women and men and no logic or ideals can change that. We can better move along with it instead of resisiting it.
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Why didnt you just hug her in those moments? Thats what she means by wishing you were more reactive. She just needed to feel understood, she didnt need you to analyse her feelings. If she was looking for something like that she would have gone to Dr Phil.
i did, thats how she can get so close to punch and bite my shoulder haha
maybe i shouldnt have analysed her like you suggest but she was so confused why things played out that way and didnt know how to think on the spot. i felt going through the incident and breaking it down step by step to triage what happened was the only reply i could give her after letting her get all that anger out. this scorpio was kind of emotionally dependent
plus i dont really like people bullying her because she was my gf at the time
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Its not about what you think women should be like in an ideal world full of logic. This is the nature of women and men and no logic or ideals can change that. We can better move along with it instead of resisiting it.click to expand
in that case, what do you think i should have done?
You don't fool me ... this is all a game.
You made damn sure that he knew all about the 'other' man contacting you ... and on cue, the Virgo is being an ass with you.
Soon, you'll be running to the Pisces, because Virgo is so mean .... just as you did in reverse 6 months ago when you put on the show for Virgo, when you arranged to meet him at the place where you and your boyfriend (Pisces) hung out, and what do you know ?? Pisces showed up and caught you with another man .... and the Pisces made that little scene in which you used to show Virgo that Pisces is so mean.
In reality, you admitted to me, which I can find the thread, that you never told the Pisces that you wanted to break up with him, until that very night, when he caught you with another man ... and so that is the reason why Pisces made a public scene.
Now, you are entertaining the attention of the Pisces man again .... and you made sure Virgo knows about it .. and then have the audacity to act like Virgo is the asshole?
You made damn sure that he knew all about the 'other' man contacting you ... and on cue, the Virgo is being an ass with you.
Soon, you'll be running to the Pisces, because Virgo is so mean .... just as you did in reverse 6 months ago when you put on the show for Virgo, when you arranged to meet him at the place where you and your boyfriend (Pisces) hung out, and what do you know ?? Pisces showed up and caught you with another man .... and the Pisces made that little scene in which you used to show Virgo that Pisces is so mean.
In reality, you admitted to me, which I can find the thread, that you never told the Pisces that you wanted to break up with him, until that very night, when he caught you with another man ... and so that is the reason why Pisces made a public scene.
Now, you are entertaining the attention of the Pisces man again .... and you made sure Virgo knows about it .. and then have the audacity to act like Virgo is the asshole?
Thanks guys!
@Shaks: I think you are correct, although in this case the question was "The horse gets 2 baths today?" (they were in the wash bay). The answer in my mind should have simply been "No, we're just washing off his feet because I walked him outside of the barn".
@25th: I wish it were that easy. I do usually remain calm when explaining my position. But, I can't get a word in edge wise with this guy so I just shut down in the end.
@Vulcanlass: I understand where you're coming from but I haven't spoken to the Pisces in almost a year. From my perspective, having ANY contact with the Pisces would be a slap in the face to My Virgo.
@Shaks: I think you are correct, although in this case the question was "The horse gets 2 baths today?" (they were in the wash bay). The answer in my mind should have simply been "No, we're just washing off his feet because I walked him outside of the barn".
@25th: I wish it were that easy. I do usually remain calm when explaining my position. But, I can't get a word in edge wise with this guy so I just shut down in the end.
@Vulcanlass: I understand where you're coming from but I haven't spoken to the Pisces in almost a year. From my perspective, having ANY contact with the Pisces would be a slap in the face to My Virgo.
Posted by lildol
I haven't spoken to the Pisces in almost a year. From my perspective, having ANY contact with the Pisces would be a slap in the face to My Virgo.
Yet ...... you did slap him in the face when you told him about the Pisces contacting you.
I will go get the thread from the Pisces board.
Opening Post 5/21/2011 - You: Would a Pisces contact someone after almost a year after he was basically told to to go to hell?
("it would make my week if you answered your phone or called me back" was his msg)
P-Angel: Why the hell would you care ??
You are claiming to be in a commited relationship with a Virgo. Looks like you want to entertain whether or not you're getting attention from another man.
You: I cringed and said WTF when I saw his number come up! However, the analytical mind seeks to understand that which does not seem rational...
P-Angel: perhaps, you should ask this question of the Virgo. He probably needs to know that you are entertaining how it feels if the Pisces is trying to give you attention again.
You: He already knows that the Pisces has tried to contact me...
("it would make my week if you answered your phone or called me back" was his msg)
P-Angel: Why the hell would you care ??
You are claiming to be in a commited relationship with a Virgo. Looks like you want to entertain whether or not you're getting attention from another man.
You: I cringed and said WTF when I saw his number come up! However, the analytical mind seeks to understand that which does not seem rational...
P-Angel: perhaps, you should ask this question of the Virgo. He probably needs to know that you are entertaining how it feels if the Pisces is trying to give you attention again.
You: He already knows that the Pisces has tried to contact me...
P, what the hell are you talking about? Last year I hadn't seen the Pisces since late Feb (the 22nd if I remember correctly), with the exception of him showing up on my doorstep a few days before the incident you are referring to (which was June 9 I do believe), at which time he asked if I was dating and I said yes. And the Pisces had NEVER been to that local with me - although he knew that was my bff's and my hangout.
Posted by annabellaPosted by lildol
I cringed and said WTF when I saw his number come up! However, the analytical mind seeks to understand that which does not seem rational...
excuses.. the rational mind doesn't cringe.
just be honest first off then you can get to a real answer.
Posted by seadreamPosted by lildol
I cringed and said WTF when I saw his number come up! However, the analytical mind seeks to understand that which does not seem rational...
I'm just wondering why you cringed when his number came up....You obviously kept it on your phone to recognise it, for why I'm thinkingclick to expand
Both of those people haven't even followed your embelllished saga like I have, and they knew from the first of yours that they read that you are playing games here ..... because they both are right.
The rational mind doesn't cringe ..... and you never deleted the Pisces number from your phone
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/pisces/and-so-why-2585398/
Are you nuts? Why would I delete his number? As per advice I received last year, I put my foot down and refused to engage in any further communication with him as it was suggested if I continue taking his calls telling him to leave me alone it may only entice him. His phone number does remain in my phone for this exact reason. I believe it was Nefer who basically said under no circumstances take his calls.
I'm not even sure I know anyone who doesn't keep certain phone numbers in their phone so they know NOT to answer it for whatever reason.
I had the timing off ... it was June 2010 .. here's the thread
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/pisces/here-s-one-for-the-books-boards-2017153/
In that thread we find other people who were all telling you the same thing I am telling you ... that you're gaming.
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/pisces/here-s-one-for-the-books-boards-2017153/
In that thread we find other people who were all telling you the same thing I am telling you ... that you're gaming.
lildol, a person who intends on creating a trusting, cordial and respectful environment with thier partner, keeps unnecessary drama out of the relationship.
When you met the Virgo, you were the girlfriend of the Pisces ... so this Pisces man is a threat to the Virgo man, whether he states it or not.
And not only do you keep this man's number in your phone .. you tell Mr. Virgo about it, eventhough you know Pisces showing up is a threat.
Instead of trying to maintain trust with Virgo .. you make damn sure he knows that Pisces has called you, then claim that Pisces means nothing to you. If he meant nothing to you, you would have deleted his number, and you damn sure wouldn't have made a thread on the Pisces board to talk about the reason why you are recieving attention from him again.
Virgo's aren't stupid ... he'll figure it out .. god help you then.
When you met the Virgo, you were the girlfriend of the Pisces ... so this Pisces man is a threat to the Virgo man, whether he states it or not.
And not only do you keep this man's number in your phone .. you tell Mr. Virgo about it, eventhough you know Pisces showing up is a threat.
Instead of trying to maintain trust with Virgo .. you make damn sure he knows that Pisces has called you, then claim that Pisces means nothing to you. If he meant nothing to you, you would have deleted his number, and you damn sure wouldn't have made a thread on the Pisces board to talk about the reason why you are recieving attention from him again.
Virgo's aren't stupid ... he'll figure it out .. god help you then.
You said somewhere in here that you can't talk to your real life people about this.
why not?
why not?
Everyone else, kindly set your dislike of P-Angel aside long enough to follow the referenced past threads of lildol's.. read it for yourself, in her very own words, and in others' while foolishly TRYING to help her through the mess. The game-playing attention whore is merely at it again, trying to stir up the Virgo for an emotional reaction for her own gratification.
lildol - you invoked my name.. and I'm not sure for what purpose, but I'll say this clearly and succinctly (something you don't seem to have experience with!) Keep my name out of your mouth. Do not invoke my name, I want no part of the repulsive and convoluted drama you've created and maintained with the Pisces and the Virgo. You're a drama whore and an attention whore and a liar who twists things to suit herself and try to make herself look blameless in her instigating. YES, I told you to not accept talking to the Pisces, EVER.. for HIS protection, not yours. But I certainly didn't tell you to put it in Virgo's face, and in fact I advised AGAINST you making Virgo jealous of the Pisces. You disgust me with your antics and you deserve NEITHER man.
I left you AND your threads alone for a very long time now, for I can't stand your drama. Invoke my name again and I'll stop staying out of your business and I will start making sure everyone knows the backstory and bullshit you've pulled and continue to pull, until NO ONE feels sorry for you.
In short, fuck you AND your games, lildol. You set your bed on fire.. so burn bitch, burn.
lildol - you invoked my name.. and I'm not sure for what purpose, but I'll say this clearly and succinctly (something you don't seem to have experience with!) Keep my name out of your mouth. Do not invoke my name, I want no part of the repulsive and convoluted drama you've created and maintained with the Pisces and the Virgo. You're a drama whore and an attention whore and a liar who twists things to suit herself and try to make herself look blameless in her instigating. YES, I told you to not accept talking to the Pisces, EVER.. for HIS protection, not yours. But I certainly didn't tell you to put it in Virgo's face, and in fact I advised AGAINST you making Virgo jealous of the Pisces. You disgust me with your antics and you deserve NEITHER man.
I left you AND your threads alone for a very long time now, for I can't stand your drama. Invoke my name again and I'll stop staying out of your business and I will start making sure everyone knows the backstory and bullshit you've pulled and continue to pull, until NO ONE feels sorry for you.
In short, fuck you AND your games, lildol. You set your bed on fire.. so burn bitch, burn.
You all are harsh, it seem. I saw no mention of a Pisces in her initial post, so I'm not sure why he's brought up.
Maybe she has a hard time completely letting go? Still, that doesn't mean she'd cheat on the Virgo, nor does it mean she still want the Pisces. I posted about this on the Scorpio thread, but sometimes people end relationships prematurely. I often wonder why women, especially, stay with men who are in my eyes "no good" but one thing I've realized is that when these women can no longer take any more they are DONE and cut ALL ties. I'm not sure what happened with lildol and her Pisces-ex, or what caused them to break-up but feelings may still be there deep inside for the simple fact that she obviously wouldn't continue to sit and let him hurt her.
Really, it's a no-win situation however you end a relationship. You can sit it out and let a man slowly eat away at you, or you can figure your better than that and cut him off yet still hold on to him someway inside. It seems either way you are screwed because I've seen women in both situations and it's not pretty.
Still, whatever the situation, as long as she isn't cheating then there should be no problems. There's no telling who he's holding on to from his past.
Maybe she has a hard time completely letting go? Still, that doesn't mean she'd cheat on the Virgo, nor does it mean she still want the Pisces. I posted about this on the Scorpio thread, but sometimes people end relationships prematurely. I often wonder why women, especially, stay with men who are in my eyes "no good" but one thing I've realized is that when these women can no longer take any more they are DONE and cut ALL ties. I'm not sure what happened with lildol and her Pisces-ex, or what caused them to break-up but feelings may still be there deep inside for the simple fact that she obviously wouldn't continue to sit and let him hurt her.
Really, it's a no-win situation however you end a relationship. You can sit it out and let a man slowly eat away at you, or you can figure your better than that and cut him off yet still hold on to him someway inside. It seems either way you are screwed because I've seen women in both situations and it's not pretty.
Still, whatever the situation, as long as she isn't cheating then there should be no problems. There's no telling who he's holding on to from his past.
@lildol ,why wouldn't you delete the Pisces number?That action screams first hand contact!When you delete the contact and then the Pisces calls,you give them the professional/stranger,"who is this please?".That would hurt or embarass anyone who called you.Then they would get the message,gee I'm not that important.But keeping the number on your phone,you have a prepared way of speaking to him.Also if the Virgo has looked at your phone/call log and sees that the Pisces called,even if you had a 10 second time on there,it's still enough time to say,"hey,meet me at our spot @10 pm."
As a Virgo/as a partner ,why should he trust you—?Criminals has been convicted on circumstantial evidence.Have you invertantly left your phone laying around after one of these calls or been too calm about one of the Pisces drive bys?
You're not the only one who can read facial expressions and body language.
Trying to control a persons' response to you through actions,words and deeds never goes well.If the Pisces has heard of the fighting between you and Virgo,he's hovering in the backrground and if the Virgo sees that the Pisces has been near,he sees a relationship ending.What would you do if they got in town together and compared notes?Trying to be the puppet master will get you tied up in your own strings.You are playing with fire.Just admit to yourself that you don't want either one.Turn them loose to good homes.Who is the powerful new man that you have your eye on?
As a Virgo/as a partner ,why should he trust you—?Criminals has been convicted on circumstantial evidence.Have you invertantly left your phone laying around after one of these calls or been too calm about one of the Pisces drive bys?
You're not the only one who can read facial expressions and body language.
Trying to control a persons' response to you through actions,words and deeds never goes well.If the Pisces has heard of the fighting between you and Virgo,he's hovering in the backrground and if the Virgo sees that the Pisces has been near,he sees a relationship ending.What would you do if they got in town together and compared notes?Trying to be the puppet master will get you tied up in your own strings.You are playing with fire.Just admit to yourself that you don't want either one.Turn them loose to good homes.Who is the powerful new man that you have your eye on?
@Inana04 ,How often does a Vrgo act all emotional? What drives them to be so votile in a relationship?Ruling out that there is a drug/mental problem,usually someone is trying to gaslight us.Someone is playing with our lives,time and feelings.It's simple,if you don't want us,go.If you want to pigeon hole us,go.If you want to change us to fit your requirements,go.If you like to play games,go.What's the ever loving point?Life is too short for all that screwing around.That's what the harshness comes from!Really,if a person is into a Virgo,we should be having good times,not waiting for the next fight to happen.Turmoil and chaos need not apply.Ugh.
Posted by VulcanLass
@lildol ,why wouldn't you delete the Pisces number?That action screams first hand contact!When you delete the contact and then the Pisces calls,you give them the professional/stranger,"who is this please?".That would hurt or embarass anyone who called you.Then they would get the message,gee I'm not that important.But keeping the number on your phone,you have a prepared way of speaking to him.Also if the Virgo has looked at your phone/call log and sees that the Pisces called,even if you had a 10 second time on there,it's still enough time to say,"hey,meet me at our spot @10 pm."
My Virgo asks periodically, I've never thrown it in his face, and I'm always honest with him. No biggie. We have numbers in our phone so we know who is calling. He himself has numbers of people he has no intentions of talking to, he just doesn't want to inadvertently take the call. This is not rocket science. And I'd let My Virgo answer the call if he wanted to if the Pisces called when he was there.
Posted by VulcanLass
As a Virgo/as a partner ,why should he trust you—?Criminals has been convicted on circumstantial evidence.Have you invertantly left your phone laying around after one of these calls or been too calm about one of the Pisces drive bys?
You're not the only one who can read facial expressions and body language.
Like when we drove by the Pisces store (it's on a main road btw) and My Virgo said he should pull in and kick his ass and I said "If you want to" and shrugged it off.
Posted by VulcanLass
Trying to control a persons' response to you through actions,words and deeds never goes well.If the Pisces has heard of the fighting between you and Virgo,he's hovering in the backrground and if the Virgo sees that the Pisces has been near,he sees a relationship ending.What would you do if they got in town together and compared notes?Trying to be the puppet master will get you tied up in your own strings.You are playing with fire.Just admit to yourself that you don't want either one.Turn them loose to good homes.Who is the powerful new man that you have your eye on?click to expand
The Pisces and I don't know any of the same people. We never really went anywhere public and never hung out anywhere but his baseme
LOL@so burn bitch, burn Damn Nefer...This is my first time seeing you lose it with someone.
I dunno, I used to come down hard on lildol, she gone do what she wants to do but I'm curious why her Virgo would want to kick the Pisces ass, their has to be a back story full of drama for a man to want to hurt another man over a woman.
I dunno, I used to come down hard on lildol, she gone do what she wants to do but I'm curious why her Virgo would want to kick the Pisces ass, their has to be a back story full of drama for a man to want to hurt another man over a woman.
Posted by tiki33
LOL@so burn bitch, burn Damn Nefer...This is my first time seeing you lose it with someone.
I dunno, I used to come down hard on lildol, she gone do what she wants to do but I'm curious why her Virgo would want to kick the Pisces ass, their has to be a back story full of drama for a man to want to hurt another man over a woman.
Public humiliation (for both he and I). The Pisces poured a beer in My Virgo's lap last June, right after we met. I hadn't been seeing the Pisces since that Feb. I think you were around for that saga in my life.
And I think Nefer was just PMSing or something *rolls eyes* never ever in my life would have thought she would think of me so poorly really. She may have been a little abrupt at times in her delivery, but what she wrote above came as a real surprise! Especially from someone who's input and suggestions I took to heart, respected and followed. The REAL Nefer has just reared her ugly head. Guess it goes to show you... sad really! *smh*
Posted by lildol
Public humiliation (for both he and I). The Pisces poured a beer in My Virgo's lap last June, right after we met. I hadn't been seeing the Pisces since that Feb. I think you were around for that saga in my life.
I was there from the beginning of your saga ... and that ^^^^ is a false statement. You continued to see the Pisces, and that is why he felt upset to find you out with another man, the Virgo.
Here's a post from the Pisces board from May .. just one month before June, and you were all over him.
Posted by lildol
... so, update: Mr. Pisces swam away, basically, back in Feb. Married to his job, no time (his words). Blamed his not wanting to see me based on me putting the ball in his court (I didn't ask him out and let it be - you show no interest, I'm not putting in any effort).
He still calls periodically. He actually showed up at my house tonight, unannounced! Granted, I was happy to see him, still have a thing for him, despite what I view as his faults (I can overlook faults). I was shocked, none the less.
I spoke to him earlier and he asked if I was "going out", nope was not. When he was here I asked (presuming he thought I was going out anyway) "Are you surprised I'm home?" - his response "No, I was hoping to find another guy here so I could quit calling you."
He also said he was going to dinner, he didn't necessarily invite me. I wasn't going to invite myself, although clearly he wanted me to, why can't he just ask? I still kissed him (me making the move... he responded resoundingly well).
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Posted by lildol
... Mr. Pisces is telling him he's my boyfriend and had sex with me Sat when he came over. WTF, I havn't been seeing him in almost 6 months and on Sat I told him I was seeing someone ...
On June 9 of the same year, the above quote was apart of the OP on the Pisces board, where you came to tell people that the Pisces found you out with the Virgo, told him he was your boyfriend, poured beer in Virgos lap and then broke his sunglasses.
Pisces tells Virgo that you had sex with him the last Saturday night prior to this catching you cheating .... and in your response to him telling Virgo this, you proceed to deny by saying you haven't seen him in 6 months, which we know is a lie because you posted on here on May 1st, talking about being with him ~ which I have posted, as proof of your lie.
What began to happen in why people in here don't believe you is because you lie about seeing the Pisces man ..... and if you lie about this, then we are going to believe the Pisces man when he says in the quote above that you were with him the past Sat night.
Afterall, you say 6 months .. in reality it was 1 month
Yeah, so, that was months later.... see where I say he swam away in Feb and didn't want to see me DUH! He was upset because he wanted to keep me dangling on a string and I wasn't playing that game...
Again ....... everything seemed to be going fine with you Virgo, according to you .. you two even bought a horse together and you couldn't talk enough about being on top of the world with happiness together with your Virgo.
Until the Pisces man called you, in which not only did you make sure the Virgo knows that he called you ... now we find out that Virgo drives by Pisces place of work and wants to go in and beat his ass.
It's all a game to you ..... drama
Until the Pisces man called you, in which not only did you make sure the Virgo knows that he called you ... now we find out that Virgo drives by Pisces place of work and wants to go in and beat his ass.
It's all a game to you ..... drama
Posted by lildol
Yeah, so, that was months later.... see where I say he swam away in Feb and didn't want to see me DUH! He was upset because he wanted to keep me dangling on a string and I wasn't playing that game...
You can't admit that yeah, you saw him months later, in May ... and then still claim it was six months. When he came to see you, you couldn't wait to be on him .. you'd been pining away for him all that time.
You are missing the point. You can't tell two different sides of a story, and then expect to believe one side ... because people are going to see that you're lying.
it was "seeing" and "almost 6 months" and the months Feb through June is 5 months so I said almost 6 months, when in reality if we went by dates it was about half that. And I told My Virgo Feb, there was no deception.
You saw him in May, and you two bumped your uglies .... yet, you say it had been 6 months, when really it was only 1 month since you've seen him.
You say that you wanted to be rid of him and that you weren't playing his game ... yet, you fucked him after 4 months of absence, while saying you weren't playing.
So, you talk to him Sat night before the beer pouring incident .. yet, say you'd been seeing Virgo for 3 weeks ... another lie.
We know you saw him Saturday night because you state this is when you told him about another man ... yet, Pisces tells Virgo that you fucked him Saturday night.
Lie after lie after lie ...... god help you when you actually fall in love
You say that you wanted to be rid of him and that you weren't playing his game ... yet, you fucked him after 4 months of absence, while saying you weren't playing.
So, you talk to him Sat night before the beer pouring incident .. yet, say you'd been seeing Virgo for 3 weeks ... another lie.
We know you saw him Saturday night because you state this is when you told him about another man ... yet, Pisces tells Virgo that you fucked him Saturday night.
Lie after lie after lie ...... god help you when you actually fall in love
And that stop in May, which I had completely forgotten about, was all of 5 minutes and he didn't even get out of his truck.
Posted by lildol
it was "seeing" and "almost 6 months" and the months Feb through June is 5 months so I said almost 6 months, when in reality if we went by dates it was about half that. And I told My Virgo Feb, there was no deception.
ARe you refusing to get it, or really that stupid ?
I'm not talking about the time frame from Feb to June, lildol ... I'm talking about you pining away for Pisces all the time, and then fucking him in May, just one month prior to June ... and then coming in here and trying to make it sound like it had been a long time ago.
You said you had been with Virgo for 3 weeks before that night you got caught with Virgo ... and had just seen Pisces man the Saturday night before.
What are you talking about? I hadn't had sex with that man since sometime in Feb... I think early Feb at that during the big snow storm.
Get your head out of your ass!
Get your head out of your ass!
You say these things here, as if the Pisces board doesn't exist when you are here.
You do the same thing over there .... you contridict yourself over there, I guess because you think that if the Pisces room is open then this one is closed and everything said is forgotten.
I know what you said here, lildol ... it contridicts what you say over there.
I guess you can't help it, then .... I guess this is as far as your brain goes.
You do the same thing over there .... you contridict yourself over there, I guess because you think that if the Pisces room is open then this one is closed and everything said is forgotten.
I know what you said here, lildol ... it contridicts what you say over there.
I guess you can't help it, then .... I guess this is as far as your brain goes.
Posted by lildol
What are you talking about? I hadn't had sex with that man since sometime in Feb... I think early Feb at that during the big snow storm.
Get your head out of your ass!
You are just going to refuse to get it, or maybe you can't get it .. it's not about my head/ass, lildol .... according to what the Pisces man told the Virgo man = you fucked him.
How would I know that? Do you think I live in your house?
My point is that ..... because you have lied so much in here ... it is being believed that Pisces was telling the truth, that you did fuck him Sat night.
And now we find out that Virgo wants to beat his ass .... which means you've added fuel to his insecurities about you and Pisces man.
Can't get shit by P-Angel lol
I guess the only thing I see shaky in this situation is that lildol did not tell Pisces (per my understanding so correct me if I'm wrong lildol) that you were seeing other men/a man exclusively. This is were the game playing theory comes into play because if you had been straight up with both men, virgo and pisces I don't believe so much hostility would have been aimed at virgo when pisces confronted him and poured beer into his lap etc.
Your dishonesty has caused insecurities and resentment between these 2 men and yourself included. Some kind of game/power play exist between the sexes but dishonesty and/or omitting certain details to the people you care about in my book is a huge no no, maybe you should sit down reevaluate how you have chosen to handle things with the men in your life.
Also pisces had every right to be angry but unfortunately he took the anger out on the wrong person, he should have confronted you not virgo.
Not sure what game your playing but what comes around goes around and comes back to you, so be careful and try to be more open and honest with yourself and with others.
I guess the only thing I see shaky in this situation is that lildol did not tell Pisces (per my understanding so correct me if I'm wrong lildol) that you were seeing other men/a man exclusively. This is were the game playing theory comes into play because if you had been straight up with both men, virgo and pisces I don't believe so much hostility would have been aimed at virgo when pisces confronted him and poured beer into his lap etc.
Your dishonesty has caused insecurities and resentment between these 2 men and yourself included. Some kind of game/power play exist between the sexes but dishonesty and/or omitting certain details to the people you care about in my book is a huge no no, maybe you should sit down reevaluate how you have chosen to handle things with the men in your life.
Also pisces had every right to be angry but unfortunately he took the anger out on the wrong person, he should have confronted you not virgo.
Not sure what game your playing but what comes around goes around and comes back to you, so be careful and try to be more open and honest with yourself and with others.
Really, lildol? You "never expected" me to come down on you like that? You valued my opinions and listened to my advice? (Like we were some kind of fucking girlfriends? Like I didn't long ago see you for what you really are -- the equivalent of something nasty on the bottom of my shoe?) Too bad you NEVER listened to my advice (esp when I was trying so hard to help you), you only EVER did exactly what you wanted to do.. which was to pit these men against each other to make them fight over you and make you feel special (and come to the boards to brag about it)... cuz you're an attention whore like that.
Perhaps you should get your reading glasses out..
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/pisces/here-s-one-for-the-books-boards-2017153/
Read it again. I CALLED YOU OUT ON YOUR BULLSHIT almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO. In fact, that was my FIRST reference to your "burning bed." Selective reading to go along with your selective honesty? Are you fucking illiterate as well as a dramatastic twit?
BUT I chose to wash my hands of you and walk away from this clusterfuck, and I left you alone FOR THE PAST YEAR. Until YOU invoked my fucking name in this thread, acting like *I* advised you to keep Pisces' number on your phone, so that made it okay for you to hold onto him like that (just in case).. it's okay, cuz someone on the boards (me) told you to not talk to him anymore? Fuck you, it's NOT okay to hang onto numbers of old boyfriends and periodically put it in your new man's face to trigger an emotional reaction. YOU feed the drama that keeps Virgo "hating on" Pisces so much he's actually wanting to stop at the man's place of employment and get into a fist fight with him! After a fucking YEAR, Pisces shouldn't even be ANYTHING in your lives.. except for the way you keep resurrecting the drama when you need a little fix. And then you wonder why Virgo gets pissy and out of sorts with you for "nothing" days after you tell him Pisces called again?
So DELETE Pisces' number. If he calls again, "Who is this please?" is perfect. Eventually, he'll move on. ALSO.. DO NOT fucking TELL Virgo if Pisces calls again. Let the drama fucking DIE, stop triggering Virgo's insecurities by telling him about the man who still calls you. Treat it like a wrong number, like he's NOTHING. Maybe if you stop putting it in Virgo's face, he'll start to trust in you.
Perhaps you should get your reading glasses out..
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/pisces/here-s-one-for-the-books-boards-2017153/
Read it again. I CALLED YOU OUT ON YOUR BULLSHIT almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO. In fact, that was my FIRST reference to your "burning bed." Selective reading to go along with your selective honesty? Are you fucking illiterate as well as a dramatastic twit?
BUT I chose to wash my hands of you and walk away from this clusterfuck, and I left you alone FOR THE PAST YEAR. Until YOU invoked my fucking name in this thread, acting like *I* advised you to keep Pisces' number on your phone, so that made it okay for you to hold onto him like that (just in case).. it's okay, cuz someone on the boards (me) told you to not talk to him anymore? Fuck you, it's NOT okay to hang onto numbers of old boyfriends and periodically put it in your new man's face to trigger an emotional reaction. YOU feed the drama that keeps Virgo "hating on" Pisces so much he's actually wanting to stop at the man's place of employment and get into a fist fight with him! After a fucking YEAR, Pisces shouldn't even be ANYTHING in your lives.. except for the way you keep resurrecting the drama when you need a little fix. And then you wonder why Virgo gets pissy and out of sorts with you for "nothing" days after you tell him Pisces called again?
So DELETE Pisces' number. If he calls again, "Who is this please?" is perfect. Eventually, he'll move on. ALSO.. DO NOT fucking TELL Virgo if Pisces calls again. Let the drama fucking DIE, stop triggering Virgo's insecurities by telling him about the man who still calls you. Treat it like a wrong number, like he's NOTHING. Maybe if you stop putting it in Virgo's face, he'll start to trust in you.
Yes, this is the real me. And it was the real me last year, and the year before. I am 100% real at all times, the good, the bad, and the ugly. It's too bad your fake ass can't say the same, and instead of finally getting HONEST with herself and others, just frantically tries to explain away the lies and inconsistencies in her whole fucking dramatastic posting history.
The only thing I did remarkably different from June 2010 to June 2011 was call you a straight up bitch. Cuz you are. Bitch.
The only thing I did remarkably different from June 2010 to June 2011 was call you a straight up bitch. Cuz you are. Bitch.
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