ETERNALLY ALONE.....

Virgos; do you think it is your fate to be alone? Do you believe that we are the eternal loners of the zodiac? Is that why we enjoy freedom, and being with people from a 'distance'?.....I am usually a lonely soul in that I don't relate well to others, and am not a 'people person'.....I say what I think/feel, and try to go with the best option that will aid me most....but I digress, are we a sign best equiped for lonliness, and eternal wondering, or are we to be with another based on you opinions/observations. Do we do better alone, or with others? I find myself to just plain feel lonely, not in the depressed sort of way (alllll the time) but in a wondering type.....like I'm always 'looking for someone/something I've lost'....funny, what do you all think?

I feel that I know myself very well, and that I lack a 'refined' personality in that I am not 'people friendly' type; I say what must be said to advance ourselves, and in that respect am the most loving....perhaps we are simply misunderstood, and in that respect the sisters/brothers to Aquarius....

Am I the only Virgo left on E~A~R~T~H?! C'mon!!

LOL. No man is an island! Being alone is a choice you make so blame it all on yourselves.

i don't think virgos know themselves well, because if you guys do, you won't feel lost and confused all the time. when in reality virgos tend to protect their own image because they don't want to be criticized, enjoy what life brings to them and they dont want to grow up. i just noticed that most of them take pride on themselves, but is not being used the right way.

there are times when we should be silent but it is not applicable in all cases. true that dont let anybody know whats in your heart but that is not applicable in all cases. there are times when you have to be silent aand times when you have to be true to yourself by letting emotions flow and embrace them and share it to the people concerned.

if you think that is yourself, and that you know yourself well. then, i guess you also know what's your good and bad habits/attitudes. there are times when its really easy to jump into conclusions to escape from the pain, truth, worries but it doesnt help us in reality. it only blocks us from transforming ourself with a new attitude. we blame people, we curse them for not being dependent to us, for not being on our side when they cant see our point of view, we compare them to others, we are open for other options that someday we can meet that someone who can fill the emptiness we have in our heart and the lack of what we dont have but truth of the matter is that it is our own self that needs to grow and not others.

i agree with what i read that how we see people are who and what we are at that point in time. figure it out, listen to your mouth before you speak because sometimes being too paranoid/insecure/full of pride are the ones that makes us truly weak. if you look at in in a different perspective.

i dont know if there will be people who will agree to me but i dont care. i just realized that we blame too much on others, how we see them, we labeled them as gold diggers, players, etc etc. but truth is, we are the one who is like that. that's what matters to us .. money, mind, power, manipulation, etc.

Vgurl, I don't exaltly know what/whom you've been smokin' with, but um, it's definitely taken a toll on your sensory perception; I'm trying to understand, not DICTATE you as you are entitled to your opinion, but you make it hard when you say something so tactless, and callous; no one EVER chooses to be alone, and it for damn sure isn't a choice you make ALL THE TIME; it makes one think you AREN'T A VIRGO as you don't seem to understand 'lonliness'; I didn't make it, the choice I mean; I joke, and kid around with everyone, and everyone calls me their friend, but I look at things really deeply; "what does it mean to be a friend, and how much of a friend could I be to you?" are things I ask myself all the time becuase as a Virgo, I take these things seriously (passionately); it is true I have pride, but don't knock me because I love myself, I only want to share that with the world, and can't do that if others aren't ready to accept what I present; in that token, it is COMPLETELY up to the other party to take it or not; all I can be is true to myself flaws, and all; I'm surprised you think you can give advice, when you see only one side of the dime, as you blame the other party through your post....what made you respond at all if you only came to bash someone for what you don't understand? How, about you T~R~Y to understand, and not intrude in on someone for what you don't get. I just turned 18, and I'm a youngster still, but I know not to go around and just bite people's heads off 'even if it is passively gnawing'.

wait, my bad, you didn't SAY you we're a Virgo; but I hope you came here to 'learn' and not just 'blast'.

i am not giving advice but if you cant take the words that you read from my post because it is true then it's your problem. i dont think you know yourself coz if you know yourself and what you wanted you wont get confused and wonder or worry about alot of things. i am not talking about astrology and i dont htink that just because you are a virgo you make yourself a virgo instead of trying to change your bad attitudes. that's the stubborness in oneself. making life so hard for them.

It's not wondering, or worrying; it's pondering, and questioning; I do this because I'm usually about to plot/execute something big; why are you generalizing? O.K., If you aren't talking about the zodiac, then where did this,

vgurl:i don't think virgos know themselves well, because if you guys do, you won't feel lost and confused all the time

come from? I mean, I'm not runnin' around like a chicken with my head cut off, so why was that even important for you to say? You're contradicting yourself, and I don't have time for that; say what you mean, and mean what you say already, c'mon! And you say YOU think Virgos don't know themselves....look, If I want a new paper article on astrology/zoology I'll look ya up, till then, why bother posting?

i won't argue with you because you have your point and i do have mine. what i am talking about is not about the personality of a zodiac sign i am talking about reality. you seem to analyze so much because you know you're a virgo and you stand up for it.

instead of cutting your head and stop talking and listen to what your heart truly say. you are confused because you still make your mind rule over your heart. now i am generalizing. even you too are generalizing. you too are misjudging me and my freedom to voice out my opinion. now if you cant handle what you read from what i post it is your problem. you will call me stupid or crazy without a point or whatever. i dont care.

bottom line is you are the one who has a problem and not other people.

VIRGOEXALTED wait, my bad, you didn't SAY you we're a Virgo; but I hope you came here to 'learn' and not just 'blast'.

you are not learning yourself because these topics has been so long ago. if not the same topic the bottom line will still be the same one. it's a worthless anxiety.

know what, ive noticed there's alot of people esp girls out here who love their virgos. but are just too afraid to show it to their SOs or maybe they showed it but was just taken fro granted. it's the same thing with all these virgo men.

why not love people for your own peace for your own happines without a doubt. after all love was made to be a wonderful feeling and not to destroy anyone. it covers all things. believes all things, and iit doesnt fluctuate depending on the how we wre being treated. its kind enough to do things that is not being asked. jumping into conclusions and thinking that you know yourself well and you know others well is just worthless. i just realized that. i still believe in delayed gratification. it's a high price to pay but it's worth the penny.

VE - Are you going through some growing up pains at the moment? I think you should watch the wonder years on dvd.

"I feel that I know myself very well, and that I lack a 'refined' personality in that I am not 'people friendly' type; I say what must be said to advance ourselves, and in that respect am the most loving....perhaps we are simply misunderstood"

I dated a virgo that always felt alone...and i've heard a common theme with salt-of-the-earth V's feeling like they are "misunderstood" because they "say what needs to be said". I'm perplexed as to why Virgos think they are the ONLY people that are "straight shooters". Lacking tact is not straight shooting. A lot of times when people don't like V's its not because of what they say but the rudeness and lack of couth in which it is said. It puts a bad taste in people's mouths. The exact same point can be made without clearing the room. There is no misunderstanding. When this happens I think the primary person who misunderstands is the virgo....they misunderstand other people.


"virgos tend to protect their own image because they don't want to be criticized"

For those to whom this applies (caveat), its primarily because they are so critical of other people...I've known a lot of V's who can't take what they dish out...especially from someone who has every bit of a cutting, sharp tongue as they do...

"no one EVER chooses to be alone, and it for damn sure isn't a choice you make ALL THE TIME"

This is very true VE...we don't choose to be alone perpetually, however, if we are pervasively alone it is because of something that we are doing even if we don't chose the outcome. I have a V friend who is always wondering why he is so alone....he thinks its because everybody can't "handle" his "depth" and "truth".....in reality none of this is true. Most of the people around him are as deep and true as he is....they just can't stand his snippy little attitude. If he could figure out how to nix that he'd be the most popular guy in town....and wouldn't have to compromise any "truth" he has to impart.

This is simple. However it seems to perplex virgos in disproportionate numbers. This has always been a paradox to me considering a group of people who often have such a respectable intelligence level.

"now if you cant handle what you read from what i post it is your problem. you will call me stupid or crazy without a point or whatever. i dont care.

bottom line is you are the one who has a problem and not other people."

lol...you just summed up 78% of the virgos I've ever known. I know one who always claims that everybody "Demonizes" him. I'm like..."really.......41 years on the earth and hundreds of people who don't know each other all 'demonize' YOU—??"

It never crosses his mind that HE is the only constant in that equation lol...

On a more balanced note though....I must say that virgos consistently some of the better people that I've ever known as far as where their heart is......if a few of them could just tweak those attitudes the world would truly be their oyster. I've known more of them to be salt-of-the-earth types than just about any other sign I've encountered.

I feel "alone" because I feel whole. I know that I am whole by myself and don't actually need another person to complete me - which can be a lonely experience.

Most relationships(friendship & romantic) have been kind of difficult because I'm not as dependant on their input and presence as they are on mine. It also makes me much choosier about who I accept into my life. Since I don't actually need people they are only in my life as much as I can make them happy and they make me happy.

I agree with cancerLA about the Virgo "mouth" and how it can push people away. I used to suffer from this until I got a little older and learned to keep my mouth shut until I figured out what I wanted the outcome of my words to be and then chose them accordingly. My tact still fails me at times when I'm very emotional/angry/hurt but for the most part it's much better and I attract more people because of it.

"Most relationships(friendship & romantic) have been kind of difficult because I'm not as dependant on their input and presence as they are on mine........Since I don't actually need people they are only in my life as much as I can make them happy and they make me happy"

hey leo/virg75...great post.

friendly suggestion:

consider that those people are not "dependent" on you or being "needy"...but that they just like you, VALUE your prescence, and want you around because of it. And you are not dependent or needy for returning the favor....just showing that the feelings of value are mutual.

I think virgos feel that they will always be alone because they have a difficult time accepting different thinking patterns. True, they do love a good debate but they still believe that their opinions are right -- even if they have been proven wrong 😄

Also, some virgos tend to be excessively critical when it comes to someone they care about (in terms of a partner none the less. As a result, the partner can get exhausted with too much negativity and fail to understand the constructive part of the virgos critical words.

I do believe that this is why some virgos end up in relationships with the wrong people 🙂

Virgos often get involve with people that "feed into them" and can easily be fooled :O They mistake simulating conversation /admiration/sex as displays of love when in fact the person could have other motives.

LOL, I know what I've said doesn't make any sense 😄 But it's what I think 😉

It actually does make sense

I just ended a 1 1/2 live in relationship with a virgo that i thought I'd spend the rest of my life with. I ended primarily as a result of being worn out with their attitude ON TOP of the sexual frigidity displayed toward me. It was an exhausting, draining relationship despite the deep bond and great conversation. I can have that with friends. Someone I'm in love with should have more to offer than just conversation, and if they "really" care they would tone down the "extra" attitude, criticisms, and everything else once they've observed that it doesn't accomplish anything positive. All it accomplishes is them being able to vent, which they seem to not be able to help themselves but do.

At any rate, this person did a wonderful job of completely loosing someone who was prepared to be there for and with them for life. How sad. What's even sadder is because of my personality and the way I treat people I will easily go and find someone else to be with on that level. They, on the other hand, will always have problems due to the same issues that drove me away. I think I have been they're only real relationship in life.......want to guess why? No one else could put up with that. Maybe I should not have ignored that red flag from the beginning? lol

fortunately this virgo lives up to his sign; IMPENETRABILITY.

I don't play on this site so I can go home and cry out what someone said to me; what does it matter ultimately to me whether they disprove of my thinking/life style ? That would hurt IF I were out to impress, and was superficial, but for a TRUE virgo/person whom KNOWS THEMSELVES that is as irrelevant as the people whom disprove of them; that is their take of the subject, and their way of interpreting it; I have motives which drive me, and the motive is what matters; the expression of that motive sometimes is 'complicated' to say the least...things don't always go according to plan, and I am flexible in that understanding; as far as critisms go, that is our way of seeing the broader picture; I see things farther ahead than most, so I understand when a person makes a potential mistake, and when I MOST IMPORTANTLY MAKE ONE. The big picture to me is thinking further down the line, in understanding the potential a situation may yeild to me, or someone else; I was discussing this with a friend last night, and he is an aquarian, and we have like thinking patterns; does that make it incorrect? No, not at all; a person must defend their belief as it is conviction that is important, and a definite driving force, not pleasing a person if they aren't your main concern/interest; I am able (as this is a virgoan trait) to improve myself on a 'flawed' thinking style ; but this is subjective, and view-biased and I look at just about everything in relation to my own person, and what pleases/coflicts with my interests. I can ACCEPT someones thinking pattern as it may oppose my own, but if it is 'flawed' I will offer my opinion; what may work for your reality, may not be a main-stay for mine; I use what works, and reject what dosen't, or at least displace it until it presents practical use, or necessity. I am not out to please, as I am pleased with my own convictions; we are heavily convicted creatures, and to say that is wrong is flawed.

it is only a fact of life that you will be delt a blow, you may not be prepared for, but I don't go around swinging, without one hand raised for defense. In short, I don't dish, If I can't take. I am initally tactful in my dealings with people, but if that dosen't work, I will do something to grab your attention to let you know somethings up; I could care less as i am usually a carefree person anyhow, what others think of me; I accept the lonliness as I will not compromise my ethics/convictions to someone who dosen't like my 'attitude', or my 'ways'; if they don't like it, to the underworld with 'em! lol What I'm saying is I don't play on a personal sacrifial basis for another; someone has to take a stand on what they believe; I am not the type to like hordes of people in my life as I am a truth seeker, and a solitary soul, whom likes my freedom, and boundlessness to do as I please; the lonliness is apart of the stubborness; if a person cannot see my intentions behind that, stubborness they are as superfial as the ones whom dislike my attitude, and are virtually non-existant to me.

what you are asking (what it sounds to me) is that you want virgos to 'dummy down' below their own personal standards, and sacrifice the strength of character they have? So it's ultimatum time is it?

*fixes voice to imitate idealized voice of god*

"surrender your self unto the mainstream of conformity, and allow yourself a less-than-best life for people whom don't value the 'whole you', or prepare for eternal lonliness and suffering!"

please, I'll take the loneliness....because well, I feel I have my way and enjoy so much that I couldn't surrender that as that is who I am....This is the person that must be presented to the world, and not the fake persona, whom shyly obliges to everyone; I accept what everyone has to say, and can contemplate on it; I STRESS CONTEMPLATE because I won't sacrifice what gives me individuality; I suppose that is why I understand aquarians.

hell, have your tongue!! lol; it is welcomed with open arms!! I could care alot less about that as there are more important things are on my mind; I usually just laugh off any cutting remark anyone has as I am that secure/in tact with myself; things are funny that way, as I always see the light in any darkness, and come out still smelling like a rose; say what you want, I can't tell you not to, just UNDERSTAND, something will be said in response; now if you think that's cruel, cold, logically detachted, so be it; this is not a popularity contest, and if it is, I'd GLADLY DROP OUT OF THAT RACE; I've got better things to worry about than how well I 'come off to people' which I do just fine anyway...I was talking about the internal loneliness that dwells within a free-spirit unbound by what people think of them, the free ness of not having another 'like soul'....

he said i know what my worth is. i know the kind of woman i deserve, someone close to good because i know i am good, someone who will be exactly the same as who i am.

she said i know what my worth is. i know the kind of woman i deserve, someone close to good because i know i am good, someone who will be exactly the same as who i am.

he knew how much his love is worth, well in reality she also knew how much her love is worth. so what are these people struggling in their minds for? what are they fighting for? if only they can hear what each of their hearts are struggling for. what these people are praying for. if only they choose to communicate wisely, if only they knew what is it to ask to make all the questions find their answers. if only they can talk to their partners the way they talk and open up on this board. if only they can give a love that is worth giving. if only. now talk about pride, conditional and selfish love. i think they love each other too much but just afraid to admit it. they don't know how to handle it. they choose to be a victim of their own emotional bacteria -- guilt, pessimism, hatred, bitterness, impatience, anger, pride, etc.

life has a way of inloading these smelly heart. why is it so hard to accept that we are blessed and that we are loved. that we have found love? how can we all be so selfish. it's really not our partner's problem it's ours. we choose to change partners, we open our options to make a smooth escape to reality for it only cause us troubles and pains. but little ddid we know that a piecce of us was left each time we change partners. we never really find time to know what we really want and who we really are and stand of for our choice -- the person we chose to love. by accepting them as a whole no matter how imperfect they are.

some find it hard to move on from their past experiences, but what is the point of holding on? we never ran out of own excuses that we dont like the person we are dating now, whom we are presently with.

love won't survive where tongues and mind are talking. at the end of it all love will be the only reason to solve it all.

me thinxs you don't understand 'human nature'.....we are humans! We are flawed lol You're pretty idealistic (I find that admirable) although, it's about accepting your flaws, working on them, and hopefully people are broad-minded enough to accept them, or at least over look them vgurl; I hear what you are saying, yet i don't as you were just as likely to prove/defend your point to me in the last couple of posts; the first was callous, and detached, and now this one is passionate and warm with feelings; why was that? Because you thought you were right, and you voiced your opinion; I accepted that, because I was broad enough, to hold it as valid, because it was so to you; I don't really see where you're heading as you seem to go 'everywhere at once'....with this; could you tell me in short what you want from me? I will take a look at it, and see if I can change; I am human though; you have to try to understand human mortality, and flaw, this need for perfection is a door way to blindness for virgo....I can accept people with out 'ideally' needing to have them in this 'perfect package'....sometimes that is just what people have, and that's who they are; less than perfect....we all are.

sheesh, I hope I didn't piss Vgurl off THAT BAD....😢 i was enjoying this...

i don't get pissed off, kid

i won' argue with you virgoexalted and i don;t need anything from you. it's a waste of time.

i found the topic so negative, it caught my attention.

human these days tend to live life the easy way. same thing in loving people, most couples use the hollywood formula instead of using it the right way which is in God's way. why not treat people the same way as He has treated you? i hope people will stop blaming each other and stop complaining with how their lives turned out to be.

life is made up with the choices we make.

I'm sorry I offended the eternal creator's way...ooohoohoooo lol, 😉 c'mon, lighten up Vgurl!! sheesh, I told you I was sorry, I asked you what do YOU want FROM ME to do? Then you give me a 'saved' speech on ethics, and the 'right way?' and you call me a kid....lol aw, well, it seems this kid still enjoys his youth enough to poke fun, WHILE contemplating larger issues at hand.....I'll tell you again if your feelings are hurt; I AM SORRY FOR OFFENDING YOU WITH MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH (1st amendment)....

life sure is made up with the choices we make, and I agree to the nth degree on that Vgurl; and loniness isn't one that we CONTROL; a choice is something that we have control over, and lonliness isn't; it is a circumstance that is inflicted upon us for some misunderstanding/miscommunication on EITHER OR BOTH parties.... however being a self-righteous person who thinkz she has the world figure out because religion is on her side is, and that is up to you v, I'll leave it in your lap....you seem to have your panies in a SER~OUS twist....I wuz hoping we could have worked this out, and see past each other....too bad, pehaps it is you who is lacking for not 'truthfully' connecting with the world, and it's people and hiding behind the pretense of the 'good book' all in all, you've gotta live life too v, and when you live it, it can get complicated, and turn ways you'd never thought....just a little word, take it or leave; my aim wasn't to assail you violently or for you to 'hate me' that would mean nothing if you did though...I'm just putting a 'ray of light' out there....

loniness isn't one that we CONTROL; a choice is something that we have control over, and lonliness isn't.

i certainly don't agree on this. we are in control of our emotions for that is something that you can call your own. why tend to ponder all the bad and hurtful things in life when you can start counting the blessings you have and cherish all the good and fun memories.

if some people can pretend to be happy when truth is they are really sad, then does it mean that one can also pretend to be sad when they are really supposed to be happy?

being happy or enthusiastic or lively is different from having your own peace of mind, it's a feeling of joy in your heart no matter how hurt you were and no matter how sad you are. it's being mature enough to know that these feelings are temporary and not permanent and that there's always a stage in life that has to end, a new beginning, new learning, growing up needs to be done alone.

your ray of light seems to be not a light. i am happy with my life and i know who i am and what i want. i understand how people behave that way and i know that people are people. yes, i have religion in my side and i am proud of it.

some people these days in a sex saturated world tend to live life the easy way the hollywood way, instead of the right, noble way. when i die i know i have lived, loved and was hurt but i don't blame anybody for my own hurts and pains. sometimes it just comes out as blaming them but these are all assumptions of people i don't have any control of. i don't live my life on other people's judgments and i am still on a process of being whole good i am happy with my partner part of me believes that he loves me sometimes i still have doubts. i say bad things to him but i am not afraid that i might lose him the next day. this reassurance and strength i get from my faith. i know that my faith is like a shifting sand that changes on every wave but i still remain steady and try harder because i know we should all be careful on what we think because it runs our lives.

not everybody is in control of their emotions, vgurl. Lots of people out there have mental walls that get in the way of themselves such as insecurity. Your theory of "lonliness is a choice" is only true for those people with peace of mind.

Your theory works well for half of the world, but the other half need some better advice...especially if you're bringing religion into this.

vgurl - "being happy or enthusiastic or lively is different from having your own peace of mind, it's a feeling of joy in your heart no matter how hurt you were and no matter how sad you are."

I'm not quite sure i understand this especially since you're using past tence predicates and present predicates in the same sentence...are you trying to tell us that happyness correlates with the heart?? well ok great symbolism but what are you trying to say? I dont know what you're arguing because all you're doing is telling us things about yourself...maybe you should go to the "Introduce yourself" forum

vgurl - "i don't live my life on other people's judgments and i am still on a process of being whole good i am happy with my partner part of me believes that he loves me sometimes i still have doubts. i say bad things to him but i am not afraid that i might lose him the next day."

where the hell did this come from— I am totally confused on how this relates to the virgo feeling eternal lonliness. I think this thread is more about psychology...not religion and shananigans

vgurl - "i know that my faith is like a shifting sand that changes on every wave but i still remain steady and try harder because i know we should all be careful on what we think because it runs our lives."

alright how are you going to end your rebuttal with that?? wtf!!

kudos cap, i couldn't have said it better myself

vgurl - "i know that my faith is like a shifting sand that changes on every wave but i still remain steady and try harder because i know we should all be careful on what we think because it runs our lives."

JHowVirGuy - alright how are you going to end your rebuttal with that?? wtf!!

i am not going to end any rebuttals if that's what you call it with all my statements that you quoted because all i said are not denials but confirmation to my ownself that whatever life brings to us can cause us heartaches, pains and joy it's our choice on how we ACCEPT all these happenstances and REFUSE to grow from these experiences. regrets/pain/bitterness are only for the immature ones this correlates to loneliness and one's choice to be alone, not matter how hard you deny it to yourself or how you hide it, that is the reason why one chose to be alone and it will still show.

it's a matter of living life with a different perspective. making a positive difference.

life is a survival of the fittest and this correlates to love as well.

mental toughness is the secret to follow your bliss.

it's like trying to win the heart of the person you really like you really love, you do everything to fight for that goal. so if you can choose to do something to fight for that goal then there's also a choice for you to do something to make the relationship survive.

not because some people didnt end up together, that will also be your fate and you will live with it as well. people these days tend to live life the easy way and not the hard but worth living way.

why complain about it, why ponder on the reason being alone when the answers cant be found, why make conclusions, why blame other people for one's misery, why not examine yourself instead.

there are perfect endings and love is not just a myth. no one was made to travel and born to live life to be unhappy and alone not unless one chooses to live life. differently.

if one chooses to be alone then so be it. that is your choice the consequences of one's own actions. i don't know what the mind's struggling for but it's truly worthless.

the ray of light I offer is not one of peaches and cream, it is the truth that manifests itself everyday; it is the light of truth that may shine upon you so ULTIMATELY not TEMPORARILY you may grow. You seem to be a person whom 'blots out' the bad, why is that? why not try the optimistic approach? I accept these hurts so I might grow; there is a reason why we must suffer, not to 'ignore the bad' or 'pay closer attention to the positives' we must see EVERYTHING; the negativity is what can shape you to actually deal with reality, and make you a stronger, more bouyant person in the face of adversity and trauma, rather than simply running away; It's alright Vgurl, not EVERYONE has had a hard life; not everyone knows what to do when a proverbial boogeyman comes banging on their door; I don't understand people and probably never will, as that is out of MY CONTROL; people seem to forget DAILY that human nature cannot be understood/predicted for the fact that one simple, yet poweful variable exists in the human soul V, and I'm sure you know all about that as it is the realm of religion/abstractivity; that variable is free will; that is the origin of convictions, and dogmatisms that comes out of people; what may spur a person to do what you may not undertand is free will, and that is something one cannot control in another, and even at times, you are victimized by your own free will, and are left feeling 'lost' and 'lonely' it is why we are fighting wars amongst ourselves, and other members of our race....yes, it is the process/will of yours to be this free that represents this loneliness as a choice; but yet that is only a reflex of that freedom available, not a whole choice on our part V; we choose to express our emotions as that is OUR CHOICE, but what we feel, the choice to feel in response to a situation is completely reflexive; if we had the choice of what we felt, it would defeat the purpose of having emotions in the first place, and we could simply turn them on, and off at will; you can never truly understand anyone; not even yourself......perhaps life has not delt you a situation in that for you to see......I only hope you know what you are doing Vgurl; your talk is noble, and ideal, yet, it has not a nickel to the dime of reality....be careful.

HUH?! what the heck are you talking about? i am extremely happy with my life and i just said that everything i said here are confirmation about myself. fyi, i am an optimisttic person if you may want to know.

"if we had the choice of what we felt, it would defeat the purpose of having emotions in the first place, and we could simply turn them on, and off at will; you can never truly understand anyone; not even yourself......perhaps life has not delt you a situation in that for you to see......I only hope you know what you are doing Vgurl; your talk is noble, and ideal, yet, it has not a nickel to the dime of reality....be careful."

funny how you can be oh so sure. funny. i am not gonna argue with anyone. someday you're gonna see things my way.

perhaps if I had an inferiority complex....🙂

When my Virgo wakes up again, and I think he has already....he will never be alone. LTVM

Someone I'm in love with should have more to offer than just conversation, and if they "really" care they would tone down the "extra" attitude, criticisms, and everything else once they've observed that it doesn't accomplish anything positive. All it accomplishes is them being able to vent, which they seem to not be able to help themselves but do.

Exactly CancerLA! I've noticed this in virgos and in some Aquas. Why put up more walls with someone you are suppose to love and why have more of an attitude? All the criticisms may help them vent all there frustrations with their partner ... but NOTHING is solved. I can deal with a "contest of wills" but I can't stand a "battle of wills" --
UGH. Anything every darn thing has to be arguement ... the relationship is in serious trouble.

yeah, I think some of the more "stereotypical" virgos have a lack of self control and just can't help but be pissy, which is why they make such a big deal over you developing a "tolerance" for it....because they can't stop. Then they act like something is wrong with YOU for not wanting to put up with it...as if you are the ONLY ONE with a bad taste in your mouth after they've basically stunk up an entire room of people with some obnoxious comment.

well, I guess I could sum all this hooey up in one phrase:

'the proof is in the puddin'' Not EVERY virgo is 'BY THE BOOK' it's all basically stereotypical nonsense doled out by any astrologer that mistakes the sign to speak for the individual.

.....yet SO MANY fit into it so well (as evidenced by testimonial after testimonial from other people)! lol...I guess that's "nonsense" too.

I feel for ya Virgoexalted - I too have thought this many times as well (that I'm just meant to be on this earth for something other than being with someone else - I haven't had that many relationships in life but the ones I've had have lasted more than a year - but they both ironically ended up the same way - (they cheated on me w/ someone else - maybe it was something I did - maybe I could've done something different or handled the relationship a different way) but on the other hand - I don't mind being single - but I also sometimes long to be with someone - but it's not enough for me to really wanna get back into the dating game - more like - 'if it happened - it happened - it's whatever really' I mean otherwise - I believe I have alot to live for - I've been going through what's known as 'the cap struggle' (caps climbing that mountain to the top to finally enjoy the fruits of their loins basically) and things are finally coming together and getting better - and it just seems like relationships (to me) have been nothing but an obstacle - cause it just seems like more like a responsibility than anything - I mean here I thought that love was supposed to just flow - but it just seems that in the relationships I've been in - put more stress on me then anything else going on in my life - so I figure - why deal with it? Is it really worth it? So really I'm in no rush to get back into the dating game - I'd prolly be more interested in a one night stands then anything right now - cause to me - that was like the best part of it 😛) But work keeps me from having those opportunities - but again - I wouldn't want it any other way either cause much like any other Cap - I love money and success - I'll take it over a relationship any day 🙂

where did you get that information? And who are the least common bachelorss?