Today

So... today I was talking to the Aries gal on the cellular... and she said she had an extra ticket to the race track back home (horses), she asked me to go along with her, except I can't because I have to work that day (Friday).

Then I told her I am having some money issues (because of Vegas and work messed up my paycheck), so I have to see how long it's going to take for work to fix their payroll error and that I might not be able to see her this weekend because of that.

Then, as the conversation ended, I said I had to run off to work and I'd talk to her later... she ends the convo: "Ok, love you, bye" *click*

Those 2 words... were in there... vpm is in analysis mode again.

Vpm

vpm is in analysis mode again.


Tell me, what exactly do you want to analyse..?? she's been honest with you and said love you that?s all.

If you push it you lose it and if you analyse you would lose it too (I meant your sanity), virgo's patience and analysing thing is something between 100 to 1000 years for a simple matter called (enjoying the life and love). Not anyone have that time to waiting for you to decide up or down. Left or right.

Enjoy the life and love, and take things as it comes.


good luck buddy...

How long you been with her?

Some people have a tendency of throwing that term around like anybodys business...

Dy: You hit the nail on the head... I was thinking exactly of those 2 points.

Qbone: Good point, I know I should just go for it...

MM: Dated her 4 years ago, split up when I went away for college, haven't seen her in 3 years, ran into her in July, didn't technically "get back together", but have been seeing her since then.

Is this the first time she said she loved you?

P: Actually... yes. The "love you" stuff was never said back in the day when we were dating before either...

I would imagine that if I were in your position vpmoon, the tone in which it was said would be the determining factor. People can say whatever they want . . words really mean nothing compared to the intention.

How did it sound? Was it slow? Rapid? Breathless?

What was the impression you were left with at the time (before starting on your evaluation of meaning)? Did it scare you? Did your heart skip a beat? Was it so casual that you actually had to think about whether what you heard was correct?

Words don't really mean as much as people would think. People don't really say what they mean half the time. If I were you, I would put just a little thought into it for now . . I'd wait until she said it to my face, so I could read her facial expression . . there, the real meaning can be found.

It just sounded like her normal tone of voice when she talks to me, like a flowed off her tongue without any hesitation.

Then since I already said I had to go, she hung up, which is normal, but after hearing that... I was like a deer in the headlights.

What if I do feel that way towards her? And this is why I've been waiting... to get a sign that she feels this way too, and that it's not "just sex"...

What do these things mean?

You talk to your girlfriend two days after her birthday to hear her talk about a gift she recieved from someone else, like it was the best gift ever, even if that other gift didn't compare to yours in terms of being heartfelt.

Your girl tells you about another boy who wants her and told her she was pretty and hot.

Your girl talks enthusiastically about something another person told her, yet, you recall having the same conversation previous, and didn't get that same passionate response.

Your girl makes you feel like your the king on the hill, letting you know in every way that her loyalty has no boundaries and that you are always safe and secure in her heart, yet, when she's upset with you, she actually tells other people about the personal issue between you to gain people on her side of why you were in the wrong.

Your girl wants you to do something for her, but, gives you the impression that she is too proud to ask for it, then later, tells you that somebody else gave this to her simply because she wanted it.

Your girl tells you that her mother promised her something, then didn't come through with promise, you comprehend from her tone that she is disappointed and really wants it, but, insists that it's ok, she'll be ok, only for you to hear a couple days later how much she isn't loved by her mother.


What do you think all these things mean vpmoon? Can manipulation be so subtle that even the wisest person in the world would fall prey? Is it possible, that since you are a Virgo and therefore, not as forthcoming with your emotions as the woman would like for you to be . . that she would say something like this to, trying to get you to tell her back? I'd just about be willing to wager that if you ask her about it . . she'll fiegn as though she doesn't even recall saying it. If she does that, she's fishing, she's fishing for you to tell her you love her, because the fact of the matter is . . . women know full well about "love", and the saying of it. We don't say that by accident.

Don't be mad at me, I'm just analyzing intent.

Everybody woman operates differently . . however, we all get what we want from men through means of guilt.

Me, for example . . a person will know that I'm trying to make you feel guilty because of snide, sarcastic remarks. A lot of women, do it sweetly, by telling you that someone else has done this for them. You feel bad because you didn't do it for her . . that's manipulation. Some women say things off-handedly, acting almost indifferent, so that you will take that extra step to make the remark have meaning . . still manipulation. We've been doing it for centuries . . that's how we get what we want.

So, my point is . . maybe this was her way of getting you to say this back to her. EVERY woman WANTS to hear these words from our man and will do just about anything to hear it . . even if it's superficial. And knowing that you are a Virgo, she knows that you're going to chew on this constantly . . whether or not you love her and are going to say it to her . . will be the focus of your thoughts. She's gotten you to think about loving her, by casually saying something to a Virgo that should be saved for a moment that's heartfelt.

We're experts at this game, vpmoon . . don't think for one second that even the sweetest woman in the world is above such as act . . because we are female, we are capable.

vpm,

Sounds to me like she was preoccupied and needed to move onto something else.

Cat: Well she did say she was just getting home and out of the car, but then why bother to say the "Love you" part? She could have just said "I've gotta go" instead—

She loves you. (simple)...next time you talk to her if she says it again, quickly tell her before she hangs up (assuming you feel the same way)...if she hangs up call back.

Sounds fishy to me. You dated her before and now again . . and in all that time, these words weren't exchanged. Not in the heat of passion, not when you two were at an emotional moment where your hearts were glad to be alive in the safety of each other . . rather, at a time when the appropriate response would have been to say, "See ya later".

My mind would be questioning as to the motive. Maybe that makes me a suspicious person and perhaps I am, but, everything is done for a reason. People just don't make such an endearing claim - one that's NEVER been said between two people - so casually, as if it meant nothing meaningful to her.

Why? Perhaps, maybe because she knew that it would make you now feel like a deer in headlights? Look at you, are you a basket case now, trying to figure out what to do, what to say? Why would someone even want to put someone they "love" in so much turmoil about an endearment, and then dip?

Being the suspicious person I am, I would process this as, "she's fishing" for me to tell her I love her because if she wasn't . . she'd say it after a night of esctasy. If it isnt' said after a night of esctasy . . then, is it really meant. Furthermore, I would likely ask myself . . does she KNOW that I've been sitting on pins and needles, waiting for her?

I know, you don't like the angle in which I'm looking at this.

"She loves you. (simple"

Yes, because this wonderful expression came after being bestowed with something wonderful and beautiful . . words saying that I'm a little short on cash and don't know if I can make it or not.

It doesn't add up . . in the real world, people don't behave that way.

"P-Angel, why does someone have to fall inlove after having a night of passion?? Can't it be just that?? I mean whatever happened to people being given time to discover how they feel about someone? I mean why does it have to be so serious instantaneously??"

It doesn't have to be after a night of passion, and it often does take time for people to discover how they really feel . . but, the situation was this: I can't go with you to a function, and I'm having money problems, oh ok love you . . click.

How heartfelt is that? She knows he's Virgo, she knows he's gonna chew, and chew, worry himself to no end over what this means: oh ok love you . . click. Why would someone pick that moment to have such an epiphony, after all the time they spent together?

Women are players, they would do this on purpose. They would do anything to get their man to tell them that he loves her. ANYTHING

And, that is how it sounds to me. If I were dting a man, I'd be extremely careful to choose my words wisely when talking about such a sensitive topic. I wouldn't just blurt it out, then hang up the phone. For what reason would I want him to think that I was that insensitive to his feelings? To play him, would be one, to get him to tell me he loves me because I know he's a Virgo and I know it's driving him mad.

Why would I want to drive someone I love mad?

Isn't that a hypocracy in itself?

I "say" I love you, then act like I don't.

oh ok love you . . click

Someone in love doesnt' behave that way. People can say anything, in their actions is where the truth can be found.

Just talk to HER tonight. THE END

Can't talk to her tonight, I just got back from class and now I'm off to work for the rest of the night... no time 😢

You think? Lady?

Dyr, you know me . . I'd be readin all kinds of shit into it. Nothing is at face value and everything has a double meaning. vpmoon knows me, ladies, he knows that's how my brain works, and he knows that I hope it works out for him.

Just food for thought, but, it doesn't matter really because if you would put your life on hold for someone, then they could eat dog shit and you'd be purring with delight. That's just human nature. There's somebody I would do that for too.

He wanted words from other people, or he wouldn't have posted the info on here.

But who better to believe than the person it came from.

Aww thanks Dy, its ok to listen to her she's probably got more experience in that dept.

Cassandra was cursed anyway. So, no matter what she predicted she never would've been believed. Poor gal was doomed from jump. See ya later Troy.

VPM, it could be a tactical move on her part to see how or if you would respond. Is it possible you were just caught off guard and are worried about how she's perceiving all this? "Did I do the right thing?"

Imagine?.

If someone questioning me, how was the food? And get the reply back as.. oh I loved it? what does it mean..??

Means that I am going to date the food next time, or have a special love relationship with that food..?

Give up already?! Sometimes people say things without thinking of the consequences which doesn?t mean anything?.honest or dishonest?it's just a common word nowadays?

Vpm had a conversation and honestly said I have to work.. And have no money for this occasion now, and her honest reply was ok.. Love you, bye??.. Click?!

Why do you guys make a drama out of it..??

3 years split in between (assume it was total silence with no communications) and suddenly less tan a couple of months dating (assume it is irregular dating too) voila—??..love happen ?how can anyone get in LOVE in this short period and expecting strange demands?

Vpm?don?t get paranoid, it's just the way it is and live with it?only you will know what is right or not in the future to come.

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Some good friend in DXP criticized me that why I addressed (P-angel) as (PEE angel) in one of my posts? in respect of this person? I won't call you (PEE Angle) anymore, but?P stands for PARANOID from now on?..goddamn woman? why are you so hostile and negative..??

Even semi positive thing you say smells FISHY?!

Get back to your fish tank and only babble about your paranoid features of FISH... ok..??

You are not Virgo... you are not Aries... nothing but a fish if not less?

For the future references?.

Meeting, dating doesn't mean OBLIGATIONS or PROMISES?! It is for the enjoying the moments together and that?s all?.

Jeeeesss

Aprilbaby

No?.she is FISH and Fish nature is "arguing" things senselessly?! Where other signs discussing things sensibly..

When you read her post you can't find anything intelligent/productive or positive.. She only argues?seems that she LOVE it?

Disgusting thing.. ??.!

why are you so hostile and negative..??

Even semi positive thing you say smells FISHY?!

It might be a pisces issue, now this is draining...even online. *GOSH✨

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vpmoon,

How's it going there? Sooooooo, she said she "love's ya!". Hmmmmmm..... I did that to him, too. How strange. Maybe it's an Aries girl thing. I'll tell you what I was thinking when I announced it to him though. Well, we were chatting on the computer one day and I had to go. I didn't plan on saying the L-word to him whatsoever. But I was conscious of what I wrote. No matter if you're aries, virgo, whatever sign, you are ALWAYS conscious of the L-word, always. Aries throw it around easier than other signs however, we are not shy people. Yes, she wants to see your reaction, but no matter how you react or what you say, she will be pondering and wondering just like you are doing right now. Aries gals aren't just outgoing and a little crazy bubbly all the time, they do think too. When she's by herself at the end of the night on her bed, that's what she does... is think. Maybe about life, maybe about the day, but most likely about you and your response to her L-word. To me he said "you too..." but didn't repeat the L-word. But if she just hung up immediately after she said that without waiting for your response, then she's probably waiting for another chance to say that to you again and get your response, either way, I believe she was thinking about it, why she said it, how you would have responded, maybe not immediately after hanging up, but while she's driving away or leaving to wherever she's going, she will stop to think about that moment and what she planted in your mind. She may be thinking "Holy crap, what did I just do" or "Yes! I finally said it, now it's his turn to say it". So the ball is kinda in your court now (I don't want to make it sound like a game), but if by the second time she does say it again and you don't respond, you're really testing her patience. Don't let her give up, don't give her the chance to. By the way you've described your "relationship" you have going with her, I can tell that you are really into her. "Love ya" can also mean that she cares about you as a friend, and not neccesarily that she's in love with you, but it's definately not a word that just comes out of someone's mouth for nothing. It means something for sure.... AW

Well, I talked to her again today and told her if the bank fixes the payroll problem I'll be there this weekend... I sensed some excitement on the other end of the phone...

Talked to my boss today, he said they should have it fixed tonight and the funds should post to my account by tomorrow morning... if not, he said he'd put in a credit hold on my account so I could still have access to the money they owe me... it's nice working for a bank sometimes, even if they don't pay me soon, there's little tricks they can do for me until they do.

Hmmmph, damn, still wish I could go to the races with her though, but that's beyond my control.

And I feel somewhat obligated to visit her this weekend, since I kind of made a promise that I would visit her the next weekend after I got back from Vegas, so even if I'm broke I've gotta find a way..... that and she wants to have a late bday celebration with me.

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"whatever sign, you are ALWAYS conscious of the L-word"

"Yes, she wants to see your reaction"

"about you and your response to her L-word."

"she's probably waiting for another chance to say that to you again and get your response"

"now it's his turn to say it. So the ball is kinda in your court now (I don't want to make it sound like a game)"

"but if by the second time she does say it again and you don't respond, you're really testing her patience"


Women are players, always have been and always will be. Might as well get used to that. If she tells you she loves you, it's for the purpose of getting you to say it back because she wants to hear the words, not necessarily feel the feeling. Better hurry though, because when she says it again and you don't respond, you will be testing her patience and if that happens, she might dip . . then you'll have to wait some more.

Moody bitch, ain't I?

My personality is multi-layered, so my views have many angles as well.

Maybe I'm just psycho, lol

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I'm seriously thinking that I'm male on the inside, what do you think?

Don't I act male a lot?

Aprilbaby, look at my pictures now.

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