Cajunspirit
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My Virgo Disappearing Theory
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That basically explains it.
I for one get attached easily and like to see affection being sent back. When that isn't happening as much as I would like, I would prefer to just walk away and rethink things for awhile.
I for one get attached easily and like to see affection being sent back. When that isn't happening as much as I would like, I would prefer to just walk away and rethink things for awhile.
i am the exact same way but along the years i really stopped paying mind to people if they "dont show as much interest" and let things go with the flow, eventually you will pick up on signs that show you who's your friend and or whos not, you cant expect everyone to be on top of you like youre a god, they all apreciate you is just that alot of people dont like praising others like groupies do.
Playa and butt.... what view.. lol
I gotta give you guys, you have the best imagination and a twisted sense of humour 😄
I gotta give you guys, you have the best imagination and a twisted sense of humour 😄
hmmm interesting
okay... I can understand where you are coming from on this. I get it. But let me shower you with some outside light into that darkness for a moment.....
.... people deserve chances. People fuck up from time to time, but that doesn't mean that they aren't worthy. The hardest thing for a Virgo, I believe, is allowing someone into their world. And when they do, they expect that person to stay in there and appreciate where they are at. And when that person doesn't, a Virgo becomes offended.
But you gotta see things this way.... others have their own worlds too. To me, the disappearing act and the silent treatment are one of the same thing. The point being... the is an apparent absence and it's designed to punish the person who did "wrong".
I literally had to expose myself to my Virgo to have him stop doing what he was doing when we were in our tiff. Our little tiff turned into a silent war, because a) that's how both of us react and b) both of us are stubborn. But I took that as a self-refelction, that I was getting a dose of my own medicine, and I communicated to him what it was doing to me.
It's easy to point out somebody else's mistake, but every now-and-then, a Virgo needs to take a good hard look at themselves and how they treat other people in order to gain a greater understanding of situations. You guys a analyzers, but I think if you turn that analyzation process inside out from time-to-time, you will gain an understanding of where perhaps you *gasps* may have screwed up, or where your action or your inaction (which is more of the case) plays into how someone will react towards you.
.... people deserve chances. People fuck up from time to time, but that doesn't mean that they aren't worthy. The hardest thing for a Virgo, I believe, is allowing someone into their world. And when they do, they expect that person to stay in there and appreciate where they are at. And when that person doesn't, a Virgo becomes offended.
But you gotta see things this way.... others have their own worlds too. To me, the disappearing act and the silent treatment are one of the same thing. The point being... the is an apparent absence and it's designed to punish the person who did "wrong".
I literally had to expose myself to my Virgo to have him stop doing what he was doing when we were in our tiff. Our little tiff turned into a silent war, because a) that's how both of us react and b) both of us are stubborn. But I took that as a self-refelction, that I was getting a dose of my own medicine, and I communicated to him what it was doing to me.
It's easy to point out somebody else's mistake, but every now-and-then, a Virgo needs to take a good hard look at themselves and how they treat other people in order to gain a greater understanding of situations. You guys a analyzers, but I think if you turn that analyzation process inside out from time-to-time, you will gain an understanding of where perhaps you *gasps* may have screwed up, or where your action or your inaction (which is more of the case) plays into how someone will react towards you.
Posted by Cajunspirit
After having done some brief reflection today, spurred on by a post concerning a Virgo just stopping communication when they felt unappreciated.
I recalled my teenage years and even up to now, I occasionally get fed up of managing all my social relationships. It is because I take it so seriously and put so much effort in to each and every one, I occasionally become exhausted and feel that it's my "friends" turn to do some work, to match my level of interest.
More often than not, they don't... so I decide to gradually let the relationship die over time, lest they surprise me with some random spurt of interest, which is usually enough to keep me from forgetting them completely.
During my "fed up" time, I usually will not be swayed by their petty shows of interest. I just lock them off.
I agree to that but, now that im older i'll give the girl more chances until I disappear for ever lol
Aha! This sheds so much light for me. Thanks cajun.
Although I totally responded and everything, maybe it was't as much as virguy wanted or something...
Although I totally responded and everything, maybe it was't as much as virguy wanted or something...
Posted by london_libra
Aha! This sheds so much light for me. Thanks cajun.
Although I totally responded and everything, maybe it was't as much as virguy wanted or something...
Virgoys are picky.... they think they want something, but when they see something wrong with it, one of two things are going to happen.... supposedly they will criticize you to fix you, or they will just ignore you until you go away.
Either ways aren't far to another person. Sure, it's a self-protection thing, but it's not fair. If Virgos saw this, and understood it as being a fault rather than an asset, then they could be more forthcoming with people, rather than disappear. Disappearing means that you're hiding something..... and that doesn't install trust in people. Especially with people who will not conform to such ill-behavior. And that's part of the problem too...... Dy had said something before about not allowing Virgos to become martyrs. But if you don't live up to a Virgo's expectation, you don't live up to a Virgo's expectation. And sometimes that is the bottom line....
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
.... people deserve chances. People fuck up from time to time, but that doesn't mean that they aren't worthy. The hardest thing for a Virgo, I believe, is allowing someone into their world. And when they do, they expect that person to stay in there and appreciate where they are at. And when that person doesn't, a Virgo becomes offended.
Everyone has limits to their patience and tolerance.
It's easy to point out somebody else's mistake, but every now-and-then, a Virgo needs to take a good hard look at themselves and how they treat other people in order to gain a greater understanding of situations. You guys a analyzers, but I think if you turn that analyzation process inside out from time-to-time, you will gain an understanding of where perhaps you *gasps* may have screwed up, or where your action or your inaction (which is more of the case) plays into how someone will react towards you.click to expand
Virgos do this all the time honey. We are extremely harsh on ourselves... it's baffling at times.
I hate making mistakes and whenever I do, I feel a "crushing" feeling inside, it's not something I can control.
Sure, we might not always understand where other people are coming from, due to our inherent logic based thoughts, but really we do try. We are, however, greatly inhibited by our lack of understanding for emotions and naivety.
Everyone has limits to their patience and tolerance.
True.... but the difference is understanding and accepting where it is coming from. If it's coming from someone who cares about you, trust it a little bit. Virgos have a tendency to disregard too easily. It hurts. I don't know if it's done intentionally, or if it's done out of oblivion, but it does hurt somebody when they are on the receiving end of it. Especially if you haven't communicated with someone what is going on. You're talking to a sign who personifies loyalty. To me, that type of disregard without the option of recourse, or hearing somebody out, is not being loyal. It's also conditional. And I'm learning that Virgo's are very conditional people.
Virgos do this all the time honey. We are extremely harsh on ourselves... it's baffling at times.
I hate making mistakes and whenever I do, I feel a "crushing" feeling inside, it's not something I can control.
Sure, we might not always understand where other people are coming from, due to our inherent logic based thoughts, but really we do try. We are, however, greatly inhibited by our lack of understanding for emotions and naivety.click to expand
MAking a mistake is something that you can't control all the time. What you can control is how you go about "fixing" that mistake and making things better for not only yourself, but for the other person involved.
I can understand feeling crushed inside, and being harsh on yourself, but disappearing on somebody doesn't make anything better. It actually makes that person think they did something really wrong to deserve that treatment, and it can be very damaging. I little bit of humbleness and humility can go a long way. If you care about that person, then why shut them out? How can they prove anything to you if you block them, and shut them away— And then when there is no way of reaching you— It's very hurtful to experience that, and you could potentially be missing out on somebody who could be wonderful in your life. But like you said, everyone has their limits to patience and tolerance....
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
I can understand feeling crushed inside, and being harsh on yourself, but disappearing on somebody doesn't make anything better. It actually makes that person think they did something really wrong to deserve that treatment, and it can be very damaging. I little bit of humbleness and humility can go a long way. If you care about that person, then why shut them out? How can they prove anything to you if you block them, and shut them away— And then when there is no way of reaching you— It's very hurtful to experience that, and you could potentially be missing out on somebody who could be wonderful in your life. But like you said, everyone has their limits to patience and tolerance....
virgos are horrible lil creatures when they play whodini. in spite of what has been said, there's no rhyme or reason to it. there's no justification for it. there's no rational thought behind it. it's actually the one behavior that reflects how irrational, petty and out of control lower virgos are.
i've had a couple virgos disappear on me in the past. the problem is, i knew when i pissed them off. with virgos i do it for sport. it's so easy that it's fascinating. so i knew they'd disappear and i didn't care b/c i also knew they'd return. they need me far more than i need them...which is why they returned even when i didn't seek 😉
LMA he knows you're agonizing over his absences. it's what his sadistic ass wants. he's treating you like a child he put in time out and there you are trying to figure out how to make daddy happy.
the closer you are to a virgo, the more irrational their disappearance/behavior/temper becomes. if they hold you in high esteem, they're more critical they are. so a stranger could poop on their lanai, but don't you dare rearrange the spice cabinet! next thing you know, the pooper is invited over for dinner and you haven't heard from them in months.
my best advice when they disappear. let them. if it happens once. ok. twice. warn them. three times. reappear all you want b*tch, i'm gone.
^^the more critical not they're
damn it's early
damn it's early
As a Virgo male
I must admit if something becomes stagnant and pointless I will quit and head for the hills.
whether it be personal friendships with pals or even sexual relations with girls.
if I sniff bullshit I am off.
however to those I have decided to be loyal too I stick with them till the bitter end..... it's a bit of a contradiction but I understand it.
at the moment I am going through various trials with new people who have entered my life recently and am thinking....would I simply be happier if these folks were out of my life.
Dr Zhivirgo, master of origami
I must admit if something becomes stagnant and pointless I will quit and head for the hills.
whether it be personal friendships with pals or even sexual relations with girls.
if I sniff bullshit I am off.
however to those I have decided to be loyal too I stick with them till the bitter end..... it's a bit of a contradiction but I understand it.
at the moment I am going through various trials with new people who have entered my life recently and am thinking....would I simply be happier if these folks were out of my life.
Dr Zhivirgo, master of origami
Posted by DrZhivirgo
As a Virgo male
I must admit if something becomes stagnant and pointless I will quit and head for the hills.
whether it be personal friendships with pals or even sexual relations with girls.
if I sniff bullshit I am off.
however to those I have decided to be loyal too I stick with them till the bitter end..... it's a bit of a contradiction but I understand it.
at the moment I am going through various trials with new people who have entered my life recently and am thinking....would I simply be happier if these folks were out of my life.
Dr Zhivirgo, master of origami
What is loyalty to you—? Because loyalty doesn't deminish because something becomes stagnant and pointless. Loyalty is there. You don't choose who you are loyal too, you just choose how loyalty one gets. The more receptive a relationship is, the more loyalty is built.
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
True.... but the difference is understanding and accepting where it is coming from.
Like I said before, our emotional infancy, is a handicap. I don't fully understand emotions.
It's also conditional. And I'm learning that Virgo's are very conditional people.
Without a doubt, I am Sweet P. 🙂
MAking a mistake is something that you can't control all the time. What you can control is how you go about "fixing" that mistake and making things better for not only yourself, but for the other person involved.
Yes, this is universal wisdom. However, the practice is harder than the preach.
I can understand feeling crushed inside, and being harsh on yourself, but disappearing on somebody doesn't make anything better. It actually makes that person think they did something really wrong to deserve that treatment, and it can be very damaging.
That's the whole point!
And if anyone in my circle gets it, they sure as hell deserve it!
A little bit of humbleness and humility can go a long way. If you care about that person, then why shut them out? How can they prove anything to you if you block them, and shut them away— And then when there is no way of reaching you—
If you reread my original post, I clearly state they can atone themselves, but rarely do.
It's very hurtful to experience that, and you could potentially be missing out on somebody who could be wonderful in your life. But like you said, everyone has their limits to patience and tolerance....
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Indeed 🙂
Posted by tubbyscubby
virgos are horrible lil creatures when they play whodini.
Aaaaw, Thanks! 😄
in spite of what has been said, there's no rhyme or reason to it. there's no justification for it. there's no rational thought behind it. it's actually the one behavior that reflects how irrational, petty and out of control lower virgos are.
No rhyme, reason or justification, in your opinion.
I always try to make sure what I do has a point, if it doesn't, I rarely continue along such a path.
i've had a couple virgos disappear on me in the past. the problem is, i knew when i pissed them off. with virgos i do it for sport.
How pretentious and pompous.
it's so easy that it's fascinating. so i knew they'd disappear and i didn't care b/c i also knew they'd return. they need me far more than i need them...which is why they returned even when i didn't seek 😉
Well, lucky you.
Haha, Virgos needing people, or worse yet I need people, the mere thought disgusts me. 🙂
the closer you are to a virgo, the more irrational their disappearance/behavior/temper becomes. if they hold you in high esteem, they're more critical they are. so a stranger could poop on their lanai, but don't you dare rearrange the spice cabinet! next thing you know, the pooper is invited over for dinner and you haven't heard from them in months.
The closer you are to a Virgo, the higher the expectations for you become. The easier it is to fail us.
And boy, can people fail me.
my best advice when they disappear. let them. if it happens once. ok. twice. warn them. three times. reappear all you want b*tch, i'm gone.click to expand
Reappearing is a sign of weakness, I can not contest that.
Pathetic.
Posted by DrZhivirgo
at the moment I am going through various trials with new people who have entered my life recently and am thinking....would I simply be happier if these folks were out of my life.
classic virgo bs. i mean classic. i wonder how many virgos have uttered just this sentiment throughout the history of time?
lower virgos are the anti-christ. they give of themselves...selfishly. your relationship will be structured upon what they have done for you. the number of times they've called. the number of cards they've sent. the number of visits they've initiated.
virgos play victim soooooo well. if you weren't sure, you'd think christianity was centered around the life of the virgin rather than the life of jesus.
the closer you are to them, the less weight/points you get. in other words, instead of the bar remaining the same, it rises...even to the point where they are unable to reach it. it is at this point that virgos take stock of their "friendships" and ask themselves if it's worth it to continue because they've martyred themselves long enough.
it's sad to watch them at work really. to see a rational, sane person engage in a self-dialogue that is utterly destructive.
if you find yourself dealing with a lower virgo, don't fall for the self-inflicted wounds they place upon themselves. don't get a bandaid, let the nitwits bleed. if you're a good friend and you stand firm in that belief, then why question yourself? why allows someone else to destroy your peace?
lower virgos are, IMHO, rank amongst the worst of the worst when it comes to the low signs. why? because it's all cerebral. scorpios may have raging emotion but emotional instability can be resolved through talking to and working with your mate to deal with their feelings in a positive manner. mental instability, you need a couch and medication for that.
ugh! typos. is it too early for a cocktail?
Posted by Sekhmet
Wow Tubby!
Your analysis really sheds light on some arguments my partner & I have had recently. She's cancer with virgo moon & rising, and has a lot of the martyr shit going on. So far there is too much emotion involved to try to talk her out of valuing everything based on services provided. And what you said about the bar being raised the closer we are is so true too. I was trying to explain the concept that I consider cutting me some slack to be accomodating my quirks that same way I do hers, but she sees cutting me slack as doing even more of the stuff I tend not to do (most of our arguments involve housework). The end result is that she's piling up martyr points instead of finding a logical solution that leaves space for our individual strengths & weaknesses.
She'll also fall back on using extreme examples sometimes, as in, 'if I didn't do xyz, then we'd be living in filth'. Which is completely untrue, and doesn't include any possibility of negotiating a mutually acceptable middle ground. It's almost like she'd much rather have this self-inflicted martyr drama than be sensible and open to smart compromise.
Usually I deflect a lot of that, but I end up feeling inferior just for having my own way of doing things. But every so often I get annoyed enough to expend the energy to brick wall the nonsense. It's a good exercise for me, speaking my mind without going nuclear, but not very fun. Such a stupid thing to get all worked up about.....
that sounds a lil bit cancer, a lil bit virgo 🙂
my cancer bff acts this way with her aqua husband. they're both bad housekeepers to be honest but him putting things out of wack is a bigger deal.
but you're right, i think when you add the virgo moon, it can translate into a mommy-perfect dynamic that would probably drive a sane person batty. i will pray for you *lol*
out of curiosity, for the virgos, when's the last time you gave a heart felt apology?
i think lower virgos are incapable of uttering "i apologize" or "i'm sorry."
yes, they can acknowledge when they're wrong but to saw the above would be tantamount to admitting they're imperfect.
so virgos, do you have difficulty apologizing?
i think lower virgos are incapable of uttering "i apologize" or "i'm sorry."
yes, they can acknowledge when they're wrong but to saw the above would be tantamount to admitting they're imperfect.
so virgos, do you have difficulty apologizing?
UGH! to say not to saw...i think i fried a brain cell last night 😛
Like I Told My Mother At Age 6 When I Punch This Kid I Dont Say Sorry If I Did It And It Hurt U Thats What I Wanted
Posted by virgoking
Like I Told My Mother At Age 6 When I Punch This Kid I Dont Say Sorry If I Did It And It Hurt U Thats What I Wanted
no wonder y people are afraid of you lmfao
LV? do you have difficulty apologizing?
Posted by tubbyscubby
out of curiosity, for the virgos, when's the last time you gave a heart felt apology?
i think lower virgos are incapable of uttering "i apologize" or "i'm sorry."
yes, they can acknowledge when they're wrong but to saw the above would be tantamount to admitting they're imperfect.
so virgos, do you have difficulty apologizing?
i dont kno about all virgos but for a person to get a apology i musta had to 2 messed up really bad other then that forget about it for me its a pride thing being a lunar lion and all.
*rolls eyes*
Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken. And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools...
what you think? lower virgos?
what you think? lower virgos?
Posted by tubbyscubby
Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken. And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools...
what you think? lower virgos?
lower virgos are the worst because they the power to use people 2 to end and the person wont kno till its to late having sharps minds and all lower virgos can find a person weakness easily and if they figure a person big weakness is the mind its all over lmao i can get away with murder because mentally im always a step ahead of a person but i have a good heart so i choose not 2.
unless im mad muhahahahahahahahahha lmao
"Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken. And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools." -- THE PSYCHOPATH - The Mask of Sanity -- http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm<BR>
it is my firm belief that lower virgos mimic the behavior of psychopaths. the difference is, virgos know right from wrong, they do care, they do have consciences. they psychopath can't help him/herself. lower virgos, what's your excuse?
it is my firm belief that lower virgos mimic the behavior of psychopaths. the difference is, virgos know right from wrong, they do care, they do have consciences. they psychopath can't help him/herself. lower virgos, what's your excuse?
@sekhmet - i somewhat agree. at the end of the day, no one walks on water and in most all cases, you can find something that you did in a situation that's worthy of an apology. maybe it was your tone, maybe you weren't actively listening, maybe you allowed the argument to continue when you knew it was going downhill.
if you are in the midst of some drama, every second you allow it to continue by adding fuel to the fire or the moment you callously walk away (more fuel), you have become part of the problem. part of the solution is being mature enough to acknowledge the problem, confront it bravely and be willing to hold a mirror up to yourself.
thus aside from psychopaths, lower virgos remind me of the queen. "mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" she transforms herself into a spiteful witch hell bent on destroying her rival in order to maintain her sense of self and desire to embody perfection.
lower virgos, IMHO, are individuals who do not like their reflections. and instead of accepting the reality of the image reflected back to them, it's much easier to kill any and everything around them. it's much easier to point the finger or to disappear than to take a cold, hard look at one's self.
lower virgos can simultaneously be the beautiful queen and the evil hag. mature virgos make every effort to kill the hag.
if you are in the midst of some drama, every second you allow it to continue by adding fuel to the fire or the moment you callously walk away (more fuel), you have become part of the problem. part of the solution is being mature enough to acknowledge the problem, confront it bravely and be willing to hold a mirror up to yourself.
thus aside from psychopaths, lower virgos remind me of the queen. "mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" she transforms herself into a spiteful witch hell bent on destroying her rival in order to maintain her sense of self and desire to embody perfection.
lower virgos, IMHO, are individuals who do not like their reflections. and instead of accepting the reality of the image reflected back to them, it's much easier to kill any and everything around them. it's much easier to point the finger or to disappear than to take a cold, hard look at one's self.
lower virgos can simultaneously be the beautiful queen and the evil hag. mature virgos make every effort to kill the hag.
Posted by tubbyscubby
classic virgo bs. i mean classic. i wonder how many virgos have uttered just this sentiment throughout the history of time?
How is culling the worthless from the herd bullcrap?
If you are useless, you are useless. There is no two ways about it.
Most people are a waste of time and effort, that's just how life is!
They don't make the effort and you do. It takes two hands to clap.
lower virgos are the anti-christ. they give of themselves...selfishly. your relationship will be structured upon what they have done for you. the number of times they've called. the number of cards they've sent. the number of visits they've initiated.
We are measuring the effort put into the relationship.
If you don't do the same or more, obviously you are not as serious.
And where does this selfishness you speak of come into play?
virgos play victim soooooo well.
We don't play victim, we are victims. Nobody takes anything as seriously as we do.
the closer you are to them, the less weight/points you get. in other words, instead of the bar remaining the same, it rises...even to the point where they are unable to reach it. it is at this point that virgos take stock of their "friendships" and ask themselves if it's worth it to continue because they've martyred themselves long enough.
It's called perfecting, if we can make you better, why not?
it's sad to watch them at work really. to see a rational, sane person engage in a self-dialogue that is utterly destructive.
Save your pity for a sign that gives a damn.
lower virgos are, IMHO, rank amongst the worst of the worst when it comes to the low signs. why? because it's all cerebral. scorpios may have raging emotion but emotional instability can be resolved through talking to and working with your mate to deal with their feelings in a positive manner. mental instability, you need a couch and medication for that.click to expand
Haha, someone has had some bad experiences 😄
sounds like u have had bad experience tubby was it a female virgo or male you are talking about the shadow form of virgo every sign has a shadow form even Taurus ill find a link for u its a good read
here's another type of Virgo shadow you sometimes see, and this happens when Virgo's sensitivity has been bruised too badly. We might call it the Hustler. The Hustler is a face of Virgo which appears when reality and its difficulties weigh too heavily on the scale, while hope and faith and trust weigh too light. Then the Hustler appears. He uses Virgo's naturally canny commercial nose and twists it so that everything must be bargained for. The Hustler makes everything into a deal. He's also prepared to sell anything, at a price. In some ways the ancient mythical image of the Great Harlot has here become the mean hooker. Translated, it means, sure, I'll sell that, what's it worth to you? Anything to get a little salted away. Any individual is a potential customer, a potential soak. And this is perhaps the most tragic side of Virgo's shadow, because this happens only when Virgo has become so disillusioned or so frightened that he must put up barriers against everything. Even love is for sale then, and the 'suitable' marriage must include the right amount of money in the bank account. It isn't beyond this side of Virgo's shadow to check your credentials before that first date is accepted. It's also sometimes called as psychological usury.
Sadly, this side of the Virgo shadow appears most frequently in male Virgos. I have come to the conclusion that it's because society makes it a little difficult for the Virgo man. This is a sensitive and receptive sign, not naturally ambitious, and often very aware of subtle undercurrents and intuitive interchanges which elude the thicker-skinned signs. It's also a sign naturally inclined to flow rather than lead. These aren't part of the conventional macho image men are supposed to carry in our culture. The Virgo man often has a hard time being himself in a world which requires him to be more insensitive than compassionate, more successful than skillful, more leader than craftsman, more money-maker than lover of nature. So the Hustler side of the Virgo shadow appears, and it isn't a very lovable one.
All shadows dissolve when light is brought to bear on them. This one is no exception. For a Virgo seeing himself in the light - complete with what he's really afraid of - is a great healer. For him to try, just once, to trust himself and others and life rather than demanding that everything be named and guaranteed is also a great healer. And for him to recognize that life has mysteries he'll ne
Sadly, this side of the Virgo shadow appears most frequently in male Virgos. I have come to the conclusion that it's because society makes it a little difficult for the Virgo man. This is a sensitive and receptive sign, not naturally ambitious, and often very aware of subtle undercurrents and intuitive interchanges which elude the thicker-skinned signs. It's also a sign naturally inclined to flow rather than lead. These aren't part of the conventional macho image men are supposed to carry in our culture. The Virgo man often has a hard time being himself in a world which requires him to be more insensitive than compassionate, more successful than skillful, more leader than craftsman, more money-maker than lover of nature. So the Hustler side of the Virgo shadow appears, and it isn't a very lovable one.
All shadows dissolve when light is brought to bear on them. This one is no exception. For a Virgo seeing himself in the light - complete with what he's really afraid of - is a great healer. For him to try, just once, to trust himself and others and life rather than demanding that everything be named and guaranteed is also a great healer. And for him to recognize that life has mysteries he'll ne
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never understand or explain, and chaos that maybe shouldn't ever be ordered, and pockets of mistakes, and slips and messiness that perhaps don't really need tidying, is the greatest healer of all. In other words, Virgo, the realist, isn't really very realistic. The reality he sees is only the tangible one. It's the other one he needs to find, and to trust. Then he can become what the myth portrays: the one who can heal and nurture and bring life, whether to people or ideas or his art, because he's made peace with the unknown.
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never understand or explain, and chaos that maybe shouldn't ever be ordered, and pockets of mistakes, and slips and messiness that perhaps don't really need tidying, is the greatest healer of all. In other words, Virgo, the realist, isn't really very realistic. The reality he sees is only the tangible one. It's the other one he needs to find, and to trust. Then he can become what the myth portrays: the one who can heal and nurture and bring life, whether to people or ideas or his art, because he's made peace with the unknown.
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Taruas shadow
Let's consider the undertow that exists in all earthy signs: that of fire. And let's remember that this undertow often shows itself in a strange kind of religious fervor or fanaticism. Here you have the Taurean shadow, completely hidden in many Taureans and unleashed in full force in others. Nobody, but nobody, is as good at founding ersatz religions as a Taurus.
Notice the quality of the religions. Let's take Karl Marx, a Taurus. Now, dialectic materialism is supposed to be a political philosophy. It's meant to explain the forces operating in history - all explained in true Taurean fashion, with regard for the economic motivations but with complete unawareness of other currents and motives. The importance of spiritual needs, for example, is grossly ignored. The impact of powerful personalities is missed. And the substrata of myth, the basic patterns and structures of the human psyche, is sadly missed. Dialectic materialism is an anti-religious religion. Witness the religiosity with which its partisans attempt to convert the world. Instead of the old Inquisition hunting heretics, it hunts capitalists. And the impetus is Taurean: fixed, persistent, determined, obsessive, and fanatical.
Let's take another Taurean: Sigmund Freud. Now, modern psychology owes an immeasurable debt to Dr. Freud for he was the first to postulate the existence of what we call the unconscious, the hidden side of man. However anachronistic Freud's theories seem to us now, it is worth remembering that he was the real founder, the builder, of a new outlook of man. Since Freud's time, man has become much more aware that he is a complex creature with many facets not apparent to the ordinary eye. Freud was a true Taurean in that he was an empiricist, non-mystical, pragmatic, thorough, scientific, and a builder.
Let's consider the undertow that exists in all earthy signs: that of fire. And let's remember that this undertow often shows itself in a strange kind of religious fervor or fanaticism. Here you have the Taurean shadow, completely hidden in many Taureans and unleashed in full force in others. Nobody, but nobody, is as good at founding ersatz religions as a Taurus.
Notice the quality of the religions. Let's take Karl Marx, a Taurus. Now, dialectic materialism is supposed to be a political philosophy. It's meant to explain the forces operating in history - all explained in true Taurean fashion, with regard for the economic motivations but with complete unawareness of other currents and motives. The importance of spiritual needs, for example, is grossly ignored. The impact of powerful personalities is missed. And the substrata of myth, the basic patterns and structures of the human psyche, is sadly missed. Dialectic materialism is an anti-religious religion. Witness the religiosity with which its partisans attempt to convert the world. Instead of the old Inquisition hunting heretics, it hunts capitalists. And the impetus is Taurean: fixed, persistent, determined, obsessive, and fanatical.
Let's take another Taurean: Sigmund Freud. Now, modern psychology owes an immeasurable debt to Dr. Freud for he was the first to postulate the existence of what we call the unconscious, the hidden side of man. However anachronistic Freud's theories seem to us now, it is worth remembering that he was the real founder, the builder, of a new outlook of man. Since Freud's time, man has become much more aware that he is a complex creature with many facets not apparent to the ordinary eye. Freud was a true Taurean in that he was an empiricist, non-mystical, pragmatic, thorough, scientific, and a builder.
He was also Taurean on the shadow side, for Freudian psychology is like a religion. When you read Freud, you realize that he is offering us a new Bible, a new face of God, a new expulsion from the Garden. The sexual drive, to Freud, is a god; it has the power and absoluteness of God. Freud's own religious propensities found their way into his psychology. It's dogmatic, fixed and orthodox. Its adherents, when strict, are so closely akin to those of the Church that it is amusing to see them such arch antagonists. Freud's work is banned in Ireland, stronghold of the Church. Yet they bear strange similarities.
This religious fanaticism often permeates Taurus' endeavours. The list is very long, and ranges from the very light - Buddha was said to have been a Taurus - to the very dark - Hitler was also a Taurus. What do they have in common? Well, it's an unfair comparison. But the story of Siddhartha is a Taurean story - all or nothing. So is Hitler's. And in Hitler's you can see the Taurean shadow run so rampant that we have not yet recovered from it: a religious fanaticism so intense that the western world is still reeling under the impact of atrocities unleashed in the twentieth century.
This religious fanaticism often permeates Taurus' endeavours. The list is very long, and ranges from the very light - Buddha was said to have been a Taurus - to the very dark - Hitler was also a Taurus. What do they have in common? Well, it's an unfair comparison. But the story of Siddhartha is a Taurean story - all or nothing. So is Hitler's. And in Hitler's you can see the Taurean shadow run so rampant that we have not yet recovered from it: a religious fanaticism so intense that the western world is still reeling under the impact of atrocities unleashed in the twentieth century.
n ordinary life, this fanaticism can peep out in lots of different places. The most typical form is intolerance. Taurus is not known for his easy acceptance of others' viewpoints. He simply negates the existence of anything that doesn't fit in with his scheme of reality. For a realistic sign, Taurus is prone to the strangest sorts of gullible fervours. Often his pragmatism has the undercurrent of
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this one is really bad in Taurus
Intolerance has a close relationship with prejudice. And prejudice is one of Taurus' chief difficulties on the shadow side. Once he makes up his mind that a particular ideology, religion, race, or type of person is a loss, there his mind stays. There's no moving it, no budging it. And he can be incredibly offensive in his criticism of others' values. For Taurus, his values are the only values. He's not averse to being either rude or insulting if you contradict them.
Intolerance has a close relationship with prejudice. And prejudice is one of Taurus' chief difficulties on the shadow side. Once he makes up his mind that a particular ideology, religion, race, or type of person is a loss, there his mind stays. There's no moving it, no budging it. And he can be incredibly offensive in his criticism of others' values. For Taurus, his values are the only values. He's not averse to being either rude or insulting if you contradict them.
leave it to a virgo to point fingers at others when the topic is them. yall are boringly predictable. for the record, i've never been burned by a virgo. i have however witnessed them burning others. i've witnessed how they slink back after a whodini expecting things to be the same as well.
i have witnessed VFs deny fathers access to their children. why? as punishment for not wanting the VF, the mothers do everything possible to keep the fathers away. even if the fathers want a relationship with the child(ren), the mothers use every disgusting tactic in the book to keep him away.
in one recent case, the child was the result of a one night stand. the father even lives out of state. when she calls to announce her pregnancy, the father denies the child. rationally, why shouldn't he? IT WAS A ONE NIGHT STAND! he watches maury 😛
although the father is trying to step up now and acknowledges the baby, her goal, milk him for every cent he has. when she went for child support i asked her, "so what are you going to do if he wants to see the baby? if he wants the baby to visit him out west?" she said, he can't take my baby out of state. i said, "well, that's not your decision. it's up to the court." she said, he's not taking my baby. ok heffer...whatever YOU say.
this discussion occurred while the baby was in the womb. after the child was born, when the father asked how much and she requested 20% of his income...not half the bills...TWENTY PERCENT, he said, i want joint custody. she filed a restraining order.
i've also witnessed VFs ruin reputations out of jealousy. one fat VF accused a friend )cap) who recently lost weight of using every drug known to man and theft. the cap is a guidance counselor. i said, what if you talk to the wrong person and she loses her job? you don't even have proof. answer is, no answer.
the i've even witnessed a VF out a gay male who'd barely come to terms with his sexuality...in church.
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hitler and freud were both addicts. caligula and commodus were virgos 😉
Caligula started cross-dressing in public, impregnated his own sister, declared war on the Greek god Poseidon (bringing back chests full of worthless seashells as booty), and topped it all off by declaring himself a god. (And if you think that's bad, wait till you hear the crazy stuff).
i have witnessed VFs deny fathers access to their children. why? as punishment for not wanting the VF, the mothers do everything possible to keep the fathers away. even if the fathers want a relationship with the child(ren), the mothers use every disgusting tactic in the book to keep him away.
in one recent case, the child was the result of a one night stand. the father even lives out of state. when she calls to announce her pregnancy, the father denies the child. rationally, why shouldn't he? IT WAS A ONE NIGHT STAND! he watches maury 😛
although the father is trying to step up now and acknowledges the baby, her goal, milk him for every cent he has. when she went for child support i asked her, "so what are you going to do if he wants to see the baby? if he wants the baby to visit him out west?" she said, he can't take my baby out of state. i said, "well, that's not your decision. it's up to the court." she said, he's not taking my baby. ok heffer...whatever YOU say.
this discussion occurred while the baby was in the womb. after the child was born, when the father asked how much and she requested 20% of his income...not half the bills...TWENTY PERCENT, he said, i want joint custody. she filed a restraining order.
i've also witnessed VFs ruin reputations out of jealousy. one fat VF accused a friend )cap) who recently lost weight of using every drug known to man and theft. the cap is a guidance counselor. i said, what if you talk to the wrong person and she loses her job? you don't even have proof. answer is, no answer.
the i've even witnessed a VF out a gay male who'd barely come to terms with his sexuality...in church.
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hitler and freud were both addicts. caligula and commodus were virgos 😉
Caligula started cross-dressing in public, impregnated his own sister, declared war on the Greek god Poseidon (bringing back chests full of worthless seashells as booty), and topped it all off by declaring himself a god. (And if you think that's bad, wait till you hear the crazy stuff).
oh and for the record, i've only witnessed this with VF. i do have a VM uncle who is a complete jackass though. hmm...
seriously, i think there are two types for every sign. the higher types at one point where like the lesser. there's bound to be more lessers than there are highers.
as a taurus i can acknowledge my faults. i have many. but if you ask me mine, i'll gladly outline them for you. unlike a virgo though, when i get done telling you about what's wrong with me, i don't spend the next hour telling you what's wrong with you.
tsk...the sign of critics. gotta love them...NOT!
seriously, i think there are two types for every sign. the higher types at one point where like the lesser. there's bound to be more lessers than there are highers.
as a taurus i can acknowledge my faults. i have many. but if you ask me mine, i'll gladly outline them for you. unlike a virgo though, when i get done telling you about what's wrong with me, i don't spend the next hour telling you what's wrong with you.
tsk...the sign of critics. gotta love them...NOT!
Just to let you know i was agree with u no virgo will tell u that this does not exist but you talk in a tone like we are the only ones that do bad.. It will only be logical that bad exist in everyone I think the real issue is that us as virgos don't think our bad side is as bad as others.. But of course thats our opinion. Virgo life mission is not to care bc when we care u get things like what you wrote about I stop caring along time ago.. Now I give what ever a person gives me if I feel like I can give more i will..I ask about virgo female bc they show more of the shadow form than the males.. I know alot of virgo females that are hated by the same sex..
I don't think that Virgos are bad... I think from time-to-time, they misguide themselves into believing that something may or may not be happening. The avoidance is the issue..... they recognise, but it's the lack of acknowledgement from time-to-time that makes them painful.
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Just to let you know i was agree with u no virgo will tell u that this does not exist but you talk in a tone like we are the only ones that do bad.. It will only be logical that bad exist in everyone I think the real issue is that us as virgos don't think our bad side is as bad as others.. But of course thats our opinion. Virgo life mission is not to care bc when we care u get things like what you wrote about I stop caring along time ago.. Now I give what ever a person gives me if I feel like I can give more i will..I ask about virgo female bc they show more of the shadow form than the males.. I know alot of virgo females that are hated by the same sex..
sweety, i once read somewhere that virgo egos rival that of leo. hmm...maybe yall aren't psycho? maybe you're narcissists? NEWSFLASH!!! your poop does stink. and sometimes, it stinks worst than others.
in addition, am i not in club virgo. you're supposed to take it personal. it's about you. feel free to come over to taurus. you won't be there long. we'll acknowledge when you're right, say we're working on it and send you on your merry way.
i make clear distinctions between the lesser types. the lessers of all signs SUCK! our goal in life is to self-actualize...to better ourselves. what i find troubling about lesser virgos (remember, you guys are about perfection) is the inability to recognize that there is room for improvement.
lessers spend more time saying, "i'm not not as bad as..." instead of saying "i'm bad..." if you want to be delusional and think that you're better than everyone else, fine. but even you can improve right? unless you think you're God.
i would love to help my VF friends who do these horrible things. i don't know how. cause even on here i see some of you exhibiting the same behavior. it's crazy.
And another thing virgos are natural loners im more out going than the average virgo thats bc all my virgo planets are in the 11th house, the house of friendship so I have a lot friends. But I do like to be by myself.. Im not a phone person it takes all my energy to call a girl sometimes i just hate the phone I like one on one face to face better.. A lot other virgos I know in real life are the same.. This right here i believe hurts our love life the most besides other things.
Like I said before, our emotional infancy, is a handicap. I don't fully understand emotions.
So what do you do when you deal with someone that confronts those emotions— Is it to say that all of a sudden you don't understand that person—?
Without a doubt, I am Sweet P. 🙂
Hahahaha...... I know better than that!!!! You can't shine your dimpled smile in this direction!!!!! Conditional isn't always a good think, Sweet P.......
Yes, this is universal wisdom. However, the practice is harder than the preach.
If you boys are gonna preach on others, then preach on yourself. Practice what you preach..... And if it is Universal wisdom, then why hide and block someone out— You would understand, then, correct—
That's the whole point!
And if anyone in my circle gets it, they sure as hell deserve it!
And what if they don't deserve it, but you perception claims that they do— My point is, how do you decifer this, because it seems that Virgos run at the first sign of turmoil.
If you reread my original post, I clearly state they can atone themselves, but rarely do.
I'm not arguing with you... I'm understanding, but I'm just pointing out that sometimes it's not what you seem. My atonement is, is it worth calculating someone out of your life when they could be suitable for you. Not even in the romantic sense.... just in the belonging sense. i see Virgos sometimes isolating themselves too quickly, and sometimes it's not to their benefit. I also know that Virgos have a tendancy to take the things the wrong way. I've had to explain to my Virgo many a times that he misunderstood somebody, and I'll have to clarify what that person meant, otherwise he will fly off the handle, misinterpreting someone.
Indeed 🙂click to expand
Again, why would you do this—? Does this come from intentionally doing it, or subconciously doing it— If it was towards someone you care about, why would you block them off—
Posted by tubbyscubbyPosted by virgoking
Just to let you know i was agree with u no virgo will tell u that this does not exist but you talk in a tone like we are the only ones that do bad.. It will only be logical that bad exist in everyone I think the real issue is that us as virgos don't think our bad side is as bad as others.. But of course thats our opinion. Virgo life mission is not to care bc when we care u get things like what you wrote about I stop caring along time ago.. Now I give what ever a person gives me if I feel like I can give more i will..I ask about virgo female bc they show more of the shadow form than the males.. I know alot of virgo females that are hated by the same sex..
sweety, i once read somewhere that virgo egos rival that of leo. hmm...maybe yall aren't psycho? maybe you're narcissists? NEWSFLASH!!! your poop does stink. and sometimes, it stinks worst than others.
in addition, am i not in club virgo. you're supposed to take it personal. it's about you. feel free to come over to taurus. you won't be there long. we'll acknowledge when you're right, say we're working on it and send you on your merry way.
i make clear distinctions between the lesser types. the lessers of all signs SUCK! our goal in life is to self-actualize...to better ourselves. what i find troubling about lesser virgos (remember, you guys are about perfection) is the inability to recognize that there is room for improvement.
lessers spend more time saying, "i'm not not as bad as..." instead of saying "i'm bad..." if you want to be delusional and think that you're better than everyone else, fine. but even you can improve right? unless you think you're God.
i would love to help my VF friends who do these horrible things. i don't know how. cause even on here i see some of you exhibiting the same behavior. it's crazy.click to expand
The best you can do is nothing there is a pattern to life there is lows and there is highs.. if she really wants to be better she will do it her self thats why sometimes I don't help people. sometimes people can only help themselves some people don't like outside help they get very defensive trust me im a virgo lol so I know about criticizing its an art to it lol.. In this case your best bet is to do nothing and just give hugs.
mia I will tell you like I told my aries friend if I don't like you its a good reason I don't know about other virgos but I play it over and over again in my head about the person and if they are to my liking they are in and if there not than there not.. But i really don't ex people out like other virgos do unless the person is really bad.. At most I won't chill with them as much.
@virgoking, we're talking about more than one virgo and silence isn't my style . can't you tell.
i'd much rather calls 'em as i sees 'em. the sure fire way to get under a virgo's skin is to point out where/how they're wrong...and to be right when you do it 😉
they'll retreat like M.I.A. is experiencing. because they're cowards with anger issues and superiority complexes.
the real deal virgos, will take the mirror and face it.
the lesser ones, will leave the mirror where it is or they'll shatter it into little pieces.
i'd much rather calls 'em as i sees 'em. the sure fire way to get under a virgo's skin is to point out where/how they're wrong...and to be right when you do it 😉
they'll retreat like M.I.A. is experiencing. because they're cowards with anger issues and superiority complexes.
the real deal virgos, will take the mirror and face it.
the lesser ones, will leave the mirror where it is or they'll shatter it into little pieces.
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