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Posted by tubbyscubby
@virgoking, we're talking about more than one virgo and silence isn't my style . can't you tell.

i'd much rather calls 'em as i sees 'em. the sure fire way to get under a virgo's skin is to point out where/how they're wrong...and to be right when you do it 😉

they'll retreat like M.I.A. is experiencing. because they're cowards with anger issues and superiority complexes.

the real deal virgos, will take the mirror and face it.

the lesser ones, will leave the mirror where it is or they'll shatter it into little pieces. well first virgos don't like arguing every time m in a augment some how i just get there if I see someone is not listening to logic and basing there opinions on emotions instead of facts I bounce there is no point in talking to them they are just talking so they can feel like there right when there not its a waste of my brain cells.. If u want us to say sorry u have to show hard facts
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Posted by tubbyscubby
@virgoking, we're talking about more than one virgo and silence isn't my style . can't you tell.

i'd much rather calls 'em as i sees 'em. the sure fire way to get under a virgo's skin is to point out where/how they're wrong...and to be right when you do it 😉

they'll retreat like M.I.A. is experiencing. because they're cowards with anger issues and superiority complexes.

the real deal virgos, will take the mirror and face it.

the lesser ones, will leave the mirror where it is or they'll shatter it into little pieces. well first virgos don't like arguing every time m in a augment some how i just get there if I see someone is not listening to logic and basing there opinions on emotions instead of facts I bounce there is no point in talking to them they are just talking so they can feel like there right when there not its a waste of my brain cells.. If u want us to say sorry u have to show hard facts
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M.I.A - i hope you get what they're putting down. you know how when you go to the aries board and all the aries acknowledge that they have tempers. don't you walk away with a basic understanding that they're working on it? that, although they don't apologize for being who they are, they do want to better their relationships. right?

scorps may be insane, but go to their board. there's an inherent understanding of their temper and although they don't outright apologize for being who they are, they do want to better their relationships.

virgos can't acknowledge fault or irrationality. it shatters their belief that they are perfect...that they are the ideal. how can you be ideal and come up short? the higher virgos can do this. you tell them their short-comings and they can say yep, you're right. i'm working on it.

now review the posts by these cats. each and every one of them refuses to even fathom the concept that they have something to work on. they all appear to be lessers. i'm sure there are some higher ones on here though. you should ask them for help with your virgo.
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Posted by virgoking
What are you talking tubby I have mention I have problems in the past and I work on it.. we as virgos don't like to dwell on things so we won't keep mentioning our bad but we do know and we try to work on it but we keep it to our selfs.. I like coming on here so I can see how others view me yes we all are different but somethings hold true with all of us.



dude, the people that care about you need to know that you get it. it's not that you won't keep mentioning your bad as you put it, it's that you won't mention it at all or you do so in a way that is dismissive. i guarantee it.

read what M.I.A is writing. what she's saying is, why do you feel the need to work on it yourself. to shut others out? we all do that but the way in which we do it is vastly different. for virgos, it's whodini. i messed up, so i'm going to retreat and work on this, i'm not going to tell you why i'm disappearing but abracadabra! i'm back and i'm better. all the while, the person you left in the lurch is there agonizing...shut out.

tell M.I.A how to keep him from shutting her out. how does she communicate with him...or make him feel safe enough to work on their problems TOGETHER! what can she do that keeps him from ruining the both of them?
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uhm...i'm a private person. example...my family/friends has yet to meet ONE of my boyfriends. why should they know who i'm hunchin?

i don't like asking for help. i once moved myself into a two story townhome by my damn self. king size bed and all. why? cause i'm stubborn like that and me strong like bull! 😉

my point is, you're not unique. your needs aren't unique. you're not uber-human. lesser virgos are uber-mental though.
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A lot of virgos do have a negative out look on life i dated one she reminded me of the old me.. she like me a lot but u know how virgos like to disappear lol emotions was getting heavy and she could not deal.. So I know what you mean but sometimes you have to let people go and do there own thing.. the other way just hurts you more trust me I know lol.. sHE SAID something that is a famous line for virgos, "people will fail me so why get close to them".. It felt wired hearing that from someone else and not myself..
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"people will fail me so why get close to them" -- another classic virgo line. talk about arrogant.

do you not recognize how ARROGANT that statement is? it's based on HER insecurity but she placed the blame at YOUR feet. she presumed, ASSumed you wouldn't rise the occasion. she's an arrogant, fearful loser for doubting and judging you right? how dare she? the problem wasn't you right? it was her wasn't it? i mean, what right does she have to judge you? why can't she just admit that she's scared, worried, fearful of failure? why does she have to call you a loser instead?

ok, so if you can get that then you have the answer to your other post. why can't virgo be confident and praise themselves like other signs?

1. you can.

2. just don't put down other signs in the process. that makes you small, not everyone else. don't do what she did. don't make your issues about someone else. it's insulting...it's hyper-critical...it's a virgo.

on that note, i'm supposed to be at olive garden for a bday party in 10 minutes and i still have to pick out an outfit.

have a stellar evening!

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aaaaaaaaaaaand, so you know, i'm about to go hang out with two of my virgo friends. one is my bff. higher virgos are amazing people, with amazing hearts, who will give you their last dime, who will be the first to visit you in the hospital, the first to acknowledge a birthday...

i don't know where i'd be with my VM bff. i wish all of the virgos i know could be higher virgos. i'd literally be surrounded by 10-15 amazing people. i know they're capable of it and it does hurt me to see them hurting others. i wish they could get it. i wish i could figure out how to help them get it.

but, i guess that's like telling a aquarian not to be weird 😛

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mia I will tell you like I told my aries friend if I don't like you its a good reason I don't know about other virgos but I play it over and over again in my head about the person and if they are to my liking they are in and if there not than there not.. But i really don't ex people out like other virgos do unless the person is really bad.. At most I won't chill with them as much.



I understand.... I am notorious from doing this too. I go silent on people and avoid them, mostly because the emotions are too embarrassing. But giving people space and avoiding people are two separate things..... he does so many things to show that he cares, that he thinks about me..... but he needs to work on communication and meeting somebody half way. I have discovered it is due to a lack of understanding on his part. I do the same.... it's from not listening, and then interpreting what you have listened to, mostly because it's pissed you off.

I have learned to listen, and to gain an understanding of everything before I react. Sometimes it means taking this a bit longer to unravel someone's intent, sometimes you can test somebody..... but when you have a clear understanding, you can understand the PERSON a bit better too.

The other thing that Virgos are are very stubborn. So if they have retreated, gone silent, started avoiding.... whatever you want to call it, they are hesitant to come forward. But sometimes space isn't what's needed in a situation. Sometimes talking it out is much more beneficial to progress forward.

I'm not saying anything bad about Virgos.... I understand Virgo. I understand my Virgo. It just hurts. And if it's done intentionally, then that hurts even more. The point being, one moment I'm going to have my breaking point, and then that will be the end of that. And he won't be able to come back after he has had his space, because I'll be gone.

Is that worth letting go—?
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"I'm not saying anything bad about Virgos.... I understand Virgo. I understand my Virgo. It just hurts. And if it's done intentionally, then that hurts even more. The point being, one moment I'm going to have my breaking point, and then that will be the end of that. And he won't be able to come back after he has had his space, because I'll be gone.

Is that worth letting go—?"

M.I.A - i know you're in love but not sure why you're not paying attention to what they're saying. the answer is, YES. to a lesser virgo...to a lesser male of any sign, the answer is, YES!

you could be mother theresa in a hot body and without the habit and you still wouldn't be good enough to transform a man who lacks maturity. i think what makes your situation complicated is that you were his friend before. you expect more of him because you know his worth. just like i am shocked by some of my virgo friends behaviors. it's self-destructive.

but some people will cut off their nose to spite their face. some will lament the lose of their schnoz...a virgo will feel like a complete idiot but you'd be the last to know. that would mean admitting you're right.
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Posted by Mars.In.Aries

So what do you do when you deal with someone that confronts those emotions— Is it to say that all of a sudden you don't understand that person—?



No, I just rarely understand what they are going through... so I ask lots of questions to see if I can get up to speed.

Hahahaha...... I know better than that!!!! You can't shine your dimpled smile in this direction!!!!! Conditional isn't always a good think, Sweet P.......



Why not?!
I think you rather fancy my smile 😄

No it's not always a good thing, but it's intrinsic to me.


If you boys are gonna preach on others, then preach on yourself. Practice what you preach..... And if it is Universal wisdom, then why hide and block someone out— You would understand, then, correct—



We do preach on ourselves. As far as practicing goes, we try. But there are just certain things in our nature that fight it, that make it difficult.

Hiding is punishment, just like you stated before.
I often tire of being the only one making an effort, so I just stop.
I'm not one of the "don't answer phone calls" but I won't make the effort to contact you either.


And what if they don't deserve it, but you perception claims that they do— My point is, how do you decifer this, because it seems that Virgos run at the first sign of turmoil.



If they did not deserve it, then they had ample time TO EXPLAIN when I was the one making all the effort, giving and giving, while all they could do was take!


I'm not arguing with you... I'm understanding, but I'm just pointing out that sometimes it's not what you seem. My atonement is, is it worth calculating someone out of your life when they could be suitable for you. Not even in the romantic sense.... just in the belonging sense.
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Well I personally never feel as though I belong with someone or somewhere.
It might also be Virgo nature to like the lone wolf/bachelor life.
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i see Virgos sometimes isolating themselves too quickly, and sometimes it's not to their benefit. I also know that Virgos have a tendancy to take the things the wrong way. I've had to explain to my Virgo many a times that he misunderstood somebody, and I'll have to clarify what that person meant, otherwise he will fly off the handle, misinterpreting someone.



Yup, happens both ways.
That's why we always try to be clear where we stand, other people do not!


Again, why would you do this—? Does this come from intentionally doing it, or subconciously doing it— If it was towards someone you care about, why would you block them off—
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Often it is subsconcious, but it can also be conscious. Depends on how fed up I become.
If I care about them, then I do what it takes to make them better, even if that means hurting them from time to time.
Tough love.

But of course, not everyone is made to handle such rough behaviour.
Virgos are real friends, we stab you in the front.
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Dammit, did I not practice my goose step?
Ehrlich Sortilege wie ist dieses wahnsinnige Vorurteil, das Sie gegen den Stier haben? Hitler war ein wahnsinniger Wahnsinniger. Reines ??bel. Als bez?_glich der Negativit?_t vielleicht ersch?pft die menschliche Bedingung uns alle der Punkt, dar?_ber realistisch, nicht negativ zu sein. Haben Sie einen guten Tag Herr.
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I recalled my teenage years and even up to now, I occasionally get fed up of managing all my social relationships. It is because I take it so seriously and put so much effort in to each and every one, I occasionally become exhausted and feel that it's my "friends" turn to do some work, to match my level of interest.t. I just lock them off.




this is so true for myself! its not a spiteful thing i just find that sometimes "Friends/Family" can drain my energy and in order to keep myself sane (and their friendship) i find it best to just distance myself, as sometimes ppl take my honesty too personal....
in order to keep some ppl close i find it easier to re-evaluate in my own space rather than to cause conflict....most of my close people understand this and leave me too it when this occurs, and when they make contact me the air or bad feelings are usually much less tense.
its just another part of my complex make up hence y i say u either love me or hate me...and to be honest b/c i enjoy my own company i dont really care to entertain negativity
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I concede your point Sortilege, and I am not setting out for an argument. Not by a long shot. I am glad you've enough of a brain to see it as such. As you well know Taureans have a wall up before someone comes along and tears it down. Nature of the beast. I am aware that some of the heaviest hitters in the arena of maniac and dictator are Taurus. For myself that's disturbing because I wouldn't hurt a fly and the monstrosity they put out into the universe makes me want to sick up my guts. So much of the worlds cruelty and intolerance as well.
I will also flat out admit that there is a heap about astrology and its components that I am not aware of. I just go on what vibes in me as accurate. 🙂
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@venus - don't concede any points to this idiot. ignorance to me is tantamount to diaper rash. irritating and annoying but temporary...for most.

hitler killed approximately 11-12 million people.

stalin killed as few as 23 million people but as many as 40 million. he was born december 21st.

mao ze-dong killed 50-80 million...almost EIGHT times the amount of HUMAN BEINGS as hitler but i guess people of asian persuasion don't catch the radar? as for the 20th century, MAO gets the worst human being in the world award. he was born december 28th.

all these atrocities occurred within the 20th century. you know, that last century you were born in and you should have knowledge of? only a small-minded, impotent little man would think to find humor in the deaths of millions of people. only someone with absolutely no empathy or sense of morality would use a human failing to score intellectual points.

i see your hitler and i raise you a caligula. is that is what you want to resort to? your psychopath is worst than mine? i know virgos feel a kinship with crazy people but i never thought you'd demonstrate your callous, sadistic nature publicly.

unintelligible people resort to calling others hitler, bitch, racist, the c-words, the n-word... because they lack mental capacity to think of something that actually relates to the topic. you can't attack the topic? attack the person.

sorti, here's a nappy. now go change because you clearly soiled yourself earlier. use plenty of baby powder and pull the straps tight. when you're nice and dry, try again.
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Ehrlich Sortilege wie ist dieses wahnsinnige Vorurteil, das Sie gegen den Stier haben? Hitler war ein wahnsinniger Wahnsinniger. Reines ??bel. Als bez?_glich der Negativit?_t vielleicht ersch?pft die menschliche Bedingung uns alle der Punkt, dar?_ber realistisch, nicht negativ zu sein. Haben Sie einen guten Tag Herr.



Wie schreiklich! Ich kanne glaube was gesehen nicht. Der Fuhrer war ein toll mann.

People often forget all the positive things he did to reinvigorate Deutschland and bring it back up to speed, having been so strained of her resources.

Heinrich Himmler was the Architect, not Hitler.
As much as people see Der Fuhrer as a totalitarian dictator, the fact remains he had generals and advisers. They came up with plans as well and Der Fuhrer simply 'greenlit' them.

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@venus - don't concede any points to this idiot. ignorance to me is tantamount to diaper rash. irritating and annoying but temporary...for most.

i know virgos feel a kinship with crazy people but i never thought you'd demonstrate your callous, sadistic nature publicly.

sorti, here's a nappy. now go change because you clearly soiled yourself earlier. use plenty of baby powder and pull the straps tight. when you're nice and dry, try again.
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Such overt condescension, gross disrespect and no redeeming or constructive commentary.
I do believe this is known as "Trolling".
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Posted by tubbyscubby
you might want to try that as i *really* don't think you want me to start pointing out the sheer stupidity, egotism, arrogance and false machismo presented in your posts. now shooo! GIT!



Actually I'd rather enjoy hearing about this "sheer stupidity, egotism, arrogance and false machismo presented in my posts".

Perhaps I could learn something 🙂
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awwh, it's so nice to have three eunuchs vying for my attention. i have a situp routine to finish but i'll be back shortly.

my phone has been going off incessantly and i didn't want you guys to think i was ignoring you.

haven't had time to read all the posts here but i would assume they're about virgos playing a whodini and if not, again, thanks for giving me your undivided attention 😉
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sortilege, you know, this is my fault. i sorta decided like within a few days of being here that you weren't worthy of a response. despite the reality that everything he says is factually incorrect and that he's paranoid and a conspiracy theorist, ian appears to at least have semi-intelligible thoughts and opinions.

you, bore me. i wish you were more interesting. i wish you too as much interest in hurling insults as you did your education. but hey, 5 letter words are clearly your specialty...that and hitler jokes.
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@sekh - i find that when people can't have candid discussions/debates without name calling. i do my best to keep it on topic and debate the issue but if you notice, once someone's lil net ego is wounded, they make it their aim to repeat past exchanges.

it's why pian keeps putting in his two cents. he's angry from the interracial thread.

sortilege, he had a crush on me when i first became a member and he thinks that the way to engage me is to fight with me. he's the little boy who pulls your hair in class.

cajun, i had respect for initially. he was totally ignoring me. you were doing sooooooooooo well. keep doing what you were doing before. i thought you got that it wasn't about you personally.

argue the issue and not the person and it's all good.

take it personally, that's on you and aint got a damn thing to do with me.



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this was a great exchange as i honestly do enjoy being proven right. it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. i hope that all of you have followed along as i'm about to bring it home...

if you recall, one of my major complaints about lesser virgos was their inability to handle open, honest, truthful critique. i asserted that when confronted with their issues, a lesser virgo will turn to anger, will pull a whodini for ridiculous lengths of time or will answer a critique by criticizing the messenger.

at virtually no point will the lesser virgo admit fault. at no point will they apologize. in addition, the more on-point the critique, the more the virgo aims to find fault in the messenger. the virgo will therefore make the problem about everyone but themselves. admitting that they are issue would mean acknowledging their own imperfection...and doing so publicly. a lesser virgo can't have that.

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so look it, this exchange. i invite you to review the thread.

M.I.A had issues with her virgo. sekhmet had issues with her virgo. i had issues with my many virgos. in general, our issues were similar and we asked of the virgos, why do you engage in this behavior? do you not see how irrational your behavior is? why can't you admit where/how you're wrong?

virgos response - that's just how we are. no apologies for the behavior. no real acknowledgment that their could possible be a better, more adult way to handle a situation. in fact, most of the virgos blamed others. they said, if i walk away, it must be because you're wrong and i'm tired of dealing with you. again, making the issue about the messenger and not the virgo and the virgo's wack behavior.

so what are we critiquing now? are we on topic? are we discussing the common vice of lesser virgos? nope. virgos have done what they do...deflect and critique. not to mention, play the victim.

thanks for playing along 😄
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Posted by MsPisces.
I find her opinions very precise and clear. That isn't the problem though. The problem is you don't like what she has to say, so you label her a troll



You are so right, her opinions are very precise and clear.

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sortilege, you know, this is my fault. i sorta decided like within a few days of being here that you weren't worthy of a response.



@venus - don't concede any points to this idiot.



you're such an idiot.



awwh, it's so nice to have three eunuchs vying for my attention.




lower virgos are the anti-christ.

lower virgos are, IMHO, rank amongst the worst of the worst when it comes to the low signs.



sorti, here's a nappy. now go change because you clearly soiled yourself earlier.




virgos are horrible lil creatures when they play whodini.



i've had a couple virgos disappear on me in the past. the problem is, i knew when i pissed them off. with virgos i do it for sport.



Sure, there is no name calling, condescension or raw disrespect fullness in these posts right?
Which would equate Trolling.

Good thing she doesn't contradict herself... oh wait.

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unintelligible people resort to calling others hitler, bitch, racist, the c-words, the n-word... because they lack mental capacity to think of something that actually relates to the topic. you can't attack the topic? attack the person.
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cajun, i had respect for initially. he was totally ignoring me. you were doing sooooooooooo well. keep doing what you were doing before. i thought you got that it wasn't about you personally.



I could not give a damn to have your respect, from your posts on these boards you are highly antagonistic.

I made my topic, you made your argument, I defended my topic and you started the name calling and insults.

Oh and I'm still waiting on a response to the following.

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you might want to try that as i *really* don't think you want me to start pointing out the sheer stupidity, egotism, arrogance and false machismo presented in your posts. now shooo! GIT!



Actually I'd rather enjoy hearing about this "sheer stupidity, egotism, arrogance and false machismo presented in my posts".

Perhaps I could learn something 🙂
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Oh and I'm still waiting on a response to the following.

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Posted by tubbyscubby
you might want to try that as i *really* don't think you want me to start pointing out the sheer stupidity, egotism, arrogance and false machismo presented in your posts. now shooo! GIT!



Actually I'd rather enjoy hearing about this "sheer stupidity, egotism, arrogance and false machismo presented in my posts".

Perhaps I could learn something 🙂
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wait, you're actually waiting on that? dude, when you say something stupid i will much more than oblige. i've already done. go back to some of my first posts on the virgo board.

and yes, i do think there's something mental about people who think they can do no wrong. reading YOUR words, you have no faults. you've stated it repeatedly. not sure if it was you or LV who said that ration empathy.

i just read your words boo and if you don't like the clinical definition, so be it. i invite you to examine YOUR words and compare them to narcissistic personality disorder or that of a psychopath. the similarities are astounding!

and yes, i do enjoy being sardonic. it's fun 🙂


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ugh! messed that one up. too many blockquotes....

wait, you're actually waiting on that? dude, when you say something stupid i will much more than oblige. i've already done. go back to some of my first posts on the virgo board.

and yes, i do think there's something mental about people who think they can do no wrong. reading YOUR words, you have no faults. you've stated it repeatedly. not sure if it was you or LV who said that ration empathy.

i just read your words boo and if you don't like the clinical definition, so be it. i invite you to examine YOUR words and compare them to narcissistic personality disorder or that of a psychopath. the similarities are astounding!

and yes, i do enjoy being sardonic. it's fun

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i really have to do some cleaning. i have guests coming over later.

i will be back on so you guys feel free to talk amongst yaselves.

and god, if only , if only that chick would would stop lurking. you know who you are 😛