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jalyssa62
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I'm pursuing a Virgo guy. I used to see him frequently when I would go out with friends and I always thought he was attractive...and I would see him looking occasionally...but neither of us acted on anything. When we finally did..on a Wednesday...we met up the following weekend..and had sex (smh). He was very accommodating...asking me if I had eaten...purchasing food...and he wouldn't accept any gas money I offered him. The sexual experience was amazing.

We also met up the following weekend. It would have been the same scenario...except I was moderately drunk. (I spotted some liquor in his car...and he was a bit reluctant to give it to me..but I drank anyways). I tend to be loud when I'm drunk. I sensed a bit of annoyance with him. The sex wasn't as explosive as the first time. After that...we didn't see each other for about 2 months...but we kept in contact.

We recently got together. I'm proud to say that there was no alcohol involved! We went to his brother's house. He didn't really "introduce" me, but I thought it was a good sign since he felt comfortable enough to bring me around his brother. Or maybe (here comes my Gemini Sun) his brother just didn't care because I'm not the only girl he's brought over there smh.

Any-who...he went to get food...and he made me a plate. I thought it was a very sweet gesture. The sex was passionate. More passionate than the first time. Also...I caught him staring at me twice. I playfully told him to "stop looking at me like that." Was that a no-no?
This was on a Monday.

I texted him something silly the other day...and he responded. Then he said..."Lol ur supposed to be thinking about school-work not me" What am I to make of that?

My main question is...what do you think all of this MEANS? Lol

BIRTHDAYS
Him: 9/18/1991
Me: 6/20/1991

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT ! :-)
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You've provided really insubstantial information... It all seems like you are just being flirty and he's simply reciprocating that. It doesn't seem like he has shown enough nor have you guys have spent enough time to gauge his interest.

Has he offered to help you with things? Anything? Does he initiate a lot of the contact? Make plans with you? Has he tried to get to know you and your personal interests? Does he always push to have sex when you are together? Have you guys ever gone on dates because he is trying to romance you? Is he taking his time to explore and simply get to know you?

Having a connection in bed is NOT the same as an emotional connection. Please don't get the two mixed up.
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Posted by Nebulous_Cloud9
You've provided really insubstantial information... It all seems like you are just being flirty and he's simply reciprocating that. It doesn't seem like he has shown enough nor have you guys have spent enough time to gauge his interest.

Has he offered to help you with things? Anything? Does he initiate a lot of the contact? Make plans with you? Has he tried to get to know you and your personal interests? Does he always push to have sex when you are together? Have you guys ever gone on dates because he is trying to romance you? Is he taking his time to explore and simply get to know you?

Having a connection in bed is NOT the same as an emotional connection. Please don't get the two mixed up.




Excellent point. He has...but I'm never available. When we do get together...things always lead to that...but it's not the sole reason we get together. He'll never admit to that...I'm sure.
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Jal,

So he takes you out to nice dinners? Initiates mental as well as physical intimacy? Does he try to help you in any way? Maybe with a project or anything that requires his assistance.

Virgos will show signs of interest when he's interested in getting to know you! Also, when he tries to be there for you even in the littlest ways, he definitely likes you more than a sex buddy. Lots and lots of intellectual conversation is a sure sign of interest as well.
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Posted by Nebulous_Cloud9
Jal,

So he takes you out to nice dinners? Initiates mental as well as physical intimacy? Does he try to help you in any way? Maybe with a project or anything that requires his assistance.

Virgos will show signs of interest when he's interested in getting to know you! Also, when he tries to be there for you even in the littlest ways, he definitely likes you more than a sex buddy. Lots and lots of intellectual conversation is a sure sign of interest as well.



He gives me advice...but everything is on the lines of "you need to do well in school." He's asked what I was majoring in and the like...but he doesn't ask questions that are very personal. One question he's asked was how my previous relationship "went" (?)
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I've been dating a virgo gal for two years and as a cancer male things have been great relationship wise. However, she has been critical since the beginning. I kinda shrug it off, but they hurt like biting your cheek (heals for a while until you bite that spot again). I don't want to lose her because she's a great woman, but her snide comments have caused me to withdraw back into my shell. I've tried telling her to "knock it off" to little avail.

Now we've both gotten hurt feelings and haven't spoken for a few days. When we do speak it is an airing of the laundry before retreating to our separate worlds. Last conversation she said that we should split...again, sigh. I texted her: "I love you" to which she hasn't responded. I'm losing sleep fighting to control the battle of emotions warring in my mind.
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Jal,

Doesn't seem like he's showing any deep interest.

"You need to do well in school," sounds like code message for, "Stop focusing on me [because I'm not thinking or feeling the same things you are]. You should focus on school." They are cryptic like that. Unless you ask him directly how he feels he will most likely be friendly and be indirect to avoid hurting you, that's how people mistaken their friendliness as interest. A Virgo would attempt to dig into your thought processes, analyze you to death if he was interested.
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Posted by Nebulous_Cloud9
Jal,

Doesn't seem like he's showing any deep interest.

"You need to do well in school," sounds like code message for, "Stop focusing on me [because I'm not thinking or feeling the same things you are]. You should focus on school." They are cryptic like that. Unless you ask him directly how he feels he will most likely be friendly and be indirect to avoid hurting you, that's how people mistaken their friendliness as interest. A Virgo would attempt to dig into your thought processes, analyze you to death if he was interested.



But why does he lead me on so?! Since I started this post he's texted me things like "I miss you" and "How's your day going"...and inside I'm screaming with excitement thinking "OMG I MISS YOU TOO" and "MY DAY WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER IF I WERE WITH YOU"......but all I can say is "I miss you too" and "fine lol."

FML. Why does it seem like he's playing games with me? :-/
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If you really like him and want him to step up and show his true intentions, you need to back off and create space so he can take action. Words are just words. Someone can say they miss you, love you, you're beautiful, you're the one, I want to marry you.....but if their actions don't match it, it means nothing. He is just being nice. He is being charming. He loves the sex so he will say all the right things because it's worked wonders for him.

Guys don't want to hurt our feelings. They know we are sensitive and don't want to make us cry. They want us to like them. But when they do nothing about it as in asking you to be his exclusive official girlfriend because he can't stand the thought of you not being in his life, it means they don't feel the same way we do. It is pretty simple. I have learned the hard way that the best way to know a guy how he really feels, without putting him on the spot (because sometimes they don't even know consciously what they want to do with you), is to let them miss you enough so they figure out ways to seek you, be with you.

But they can't do that if you hop over to him at an instant. I talked about this in another post about how men need a challenge.
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Posted by jalyssa62
Posted by Nebulous_Cloud9
Jal,

Doesn't seem like he's showing any deep interest.

"You need to do well in school," sounds like code message for, "Stop focusing on me [because I'm not thinking or feeling the same things you are]. You should focus on school." They are cryptic like that. Unless you ask him directly how he feels he will most likely be friendly and be indirect to avoid hurting you, that's how people mistaken their friendliness as interest. A Virgo would attempt to dig into your thought processes, analyze you to death if he was interested.



But why does he lead me on so?! Since I started this post he's texted me things like "I miss you" and "How's your day going"...and inside I'm screaming with excitement thinking "OMG I MISS YOU TOO" and "MY DAY WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER IF I WERE WITH YOU"......but all I can say is "I miss you too" and "fine lol."

FML. Why does it seem like he's playing games with me? :-/
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He says those things to you because those words make your panties fall off .. why should he play those games with you?

they work, don't they? you're going to fuck him next time you see him, just because he says those words, so why shouldn't he say them.

If you'd like to have a boyfriend who respects you, and has sincere feelings for you ... you might want to try being a lady with decency.
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Ever have a guy who chased you and you couldn't get rid of? Why is that? Because you're a challenge! I'm not saying you should get rid of him. Just let up a bit. Don't return his texts. Wait 24 hours. That will stop him dead at his tracks and wonder. Virgos always analyze when something goes awire. When things get unpredictable, that gets our attention!

So change things up. He isn't doing anything with you except giving you a bunch of words that are obviously, according to your reactions, wholly unsatisfactory. Whatever you're doing isn't getting him out of the rut and into the next phase of the relationship. If he is using you for sex, you won't know till you back off. All the answers you are dying to know will come if you become a challenge.

Guys want a prize, even if they complain about how difficult it is to get that prize. But remember, words are cheap. They can whine all they want. Yet look at the ones who are love-stricken and going nuts over a girl. They still want her, and still will do what it takes to get her. So it isn't about how hard it is for them, because they certainly do not shy away from a challenge if you are the one for them.

If they want it easy, then guess what? They don't want her that badly as a girlfriend or they are not ready to be in a full time committed relationship.

When guys do decide to go after you, it is an adrenaline rush. It's like giving them an obstacle course they have to navigate, knowing that the prize is waiting for them if only they pass the endurance test. I know this might sound very primitive but you can't change their chromosome.

Trust me, you do NOT want a passive guy. I know this one marriage where she proposed, arranged the wedding, sewed her own wedding dress, bought the rings, initiated the sex, and all she ended up with was a husband who was lackluster, whiny, and took her for granted. She keeps wondering why he's always hanging out with his friends. There are online posts in other forums where the men in such situations talk about how they never were really in love with their wives or girlfriends. They just accepted what was easy, and went with it. They contemplate on breaking up or divorcing, because they want to fall in love or they met someone at work they want to pursue. Yes, pursue!

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Posted by Virgospirit
If you really like him and want him to step up and show his true intentions, you need to back off and create space so he can take action. Words are just words. Someone can say they miss you, love you, you're beautiful, you're the one, I want to marry you.....but if their actions don't match it, it means nothing. He is just being nice. He is being charming. He loves the sex so he will say all the right things because it's worked wonders for him.

Guys don't want to hurt our feelings. They know we are sensitive and don't want to make us cry. They want us to like them. But when they do nothing about it as in asking you to be his exclusive official girlfriend because he can't stand the thought of you not being in his life, it means they don't feel the same way we do. It is pretty simple. I have learned the hard way that the best way to know a guy how he really feels, without putting him on the spot (because sometimes they don't even know consciously what they want to do with you), is to let them miss you enough so they figure out ways to seek you, be with you.

But they can't do that if you hop over to him at an instant. I talked about this in another post about how men need a challenge.



I will definitely try that. Thank you.
I guess a good place to start would be not responding so hastily to him
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Yes, wait 24 hrs or if you really want to make an impact, don't respond till you get the 2nd or 3rd text. Don't be predictable.

Please google online: "I am not in love with my girlfriend wife"

Yes, those very keywords. You will find a whole bunch of posts in different forums about why men either fell out of love or was never in love in the first place but got pressured into the relationship they are in, and now they want to get out of because now, they want to do the pursuing, do the chasing, and actually jump hoops to WIN the girl of their dreams.

When I read those posts, it was all I will ever need to stop being too easy, too available, and hankering for a guy. Straight from the horse's mouth is all it took for me to go against what my girlfriends tell me, which is usually, "This isn't the Victorian era. We women ought to be able to go out and get the man we want!".

Except they don't know that the type of man who is the object of a woman's chase and hard work could be one of those men who are bored of their gf or wife, and never got the chance to develop infatuation and butterflies in their tummies for their woman!

You know what kind of guy I'd like to get involved with? Someone who is enthusiastic about me, thinks the world of me, and does whatever he can to be with me. Your guy needs to show you that. If he doesn't, move on. The answer is loud and clear.

You can do it!
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I don't agree that all men want a "challenge". You are both young ADULTS and there is nothing wrong with enjoying each other sexually. If he is initiating contact all the time, then he is interested. The only thing I would advise you to watch is your "loudness" when drinking. It sounds like that is a deal breaker for him. Also, you sound like a smart girl, if you sense down the road that things aren't progressing into more than just sex, then move on. I did a short report from cafeastrology on you guys. Its pretty good so just relax and let things progress.

06/20/1991 Aspect 09/18/1991 Orb/Value
Mercury Sextile Jupiter 1.27 68
Jupiter Sextile Mars 1.12 61
Uranus Trine Mercury 0.06 86
Uranus Square Mars 1.13 -98
Uranus Conjunction Uranus 2.32 75
Uranus Conjunction Neptune 1.39 79
Neptune Trine Mercury 3.34 44
Neptune Conjunction Neptune 1.50 73
Pluto Conjunction Pluto 0.21 77
563 -98 465

Inter-planetary aspects

The following aspects between planets concern the possible relationships between two charts: especially the emotional and romantic relationship, but also aspects on social, intellectual and spiritual levels.

-98 Square Mars - Uranus

Negative aspect: They make each other impatient and easily frustrate each other. The sexual attraction is unique and powerful at first, seeming to arise suddenly and unexpectedly. However, it is a temperamental attraction and can leave just as suddenly. Erratic responses to each other.

86 Trine Mercury - Uranus

Positive aspect: Few clouds in this couple's life, at least on an intellectual level. They have a good intellectual understanding, take pleasure in being together and in discussing and exchanging ideas. Together, they can come up with unique and creative ideas and solutions to problems.

68 Sextile Mercury - Jupiter

Positive aspect: An ideal couple, prosperous, happy, good intellectual understanding, great confidence in each other, a successful family life.

61 Sextile Mars - Jupiter

Positive aspect: This is an excellent aspect. They boost each other's confidence and fill each other with enthusiasm. They make plans together, and they are realistic enough to fulfill.

44 Trine Mercury - Neptune

Positive aspect: Good spiritual understanding.


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Posted by Virgospirit
Yes, wait 24 hrs or if you really want to make an impact, don't respond till you get the 2nd or 3rd text. Don't be predictable.

Please google online: "I am not in love with my girlfriend wife"

Yes, those very keywords. You will find a whole bunch of posts in different forums about why men either fell out of love or was never in love in the first place but got pressured into the relationship they are in, and now they want to get out of because now, they want to do the pursuing, do the chasing, and actually jump hoops to WIN the girl of their dreams.

When I read those posts, it was all I will ever need to stop being too easy, too available, and hankering for a guy. Straight from the horse's mouth is all it took for me to go against what my girlfriends tell me, which is usually, "This isn't the Victorian era. We women ought to be able to go out and get the man we want!".

Except they don't know that the type of man who is the object of a woman's chase and hard work could be one of those men who are bored of their gf or wife, and never got the chance to develop infatuation and butterflies in their tummies for their woman!

You know what kind of guy I'd like to get involved with? Someone who is enthusiastic about me, thinks the world of me, and does whatever he can to be with me. Your guy needs to show you that. If he doesn't, move on. The answer is loud and clear.

You can do it!



I don't agree with this. You are 21 and in school. I am sure you are interested in this guy but not looking to get married just yet! If you suddenly change how you respond to him, he is going to think he did something wrong or that you are no longer interested. There is no reason to play games here. Just be "you". Thats what he likes about you. Gem girls are fun and popular. If you now start to pretend you're not interested, it could backfire.
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Posted by Nebulous_Cloud9
Jal,

Instead of blaming him because you have NO CONTROL over how someone acts, you should ask yourself, 'Why do you allow it?'

Show him you are a strong woman and he'll respect you more. Perhaps, he may even like you more for it. Virgo men love strong and independent women.



Allow what? This guy hasn't done anything to her except call her, invite her out, and show that he is interested in her making school a priority...