" As far as water signs go, well I just think a water sign is best trying to understand a Virgo to the best of their ability."
I do not agree with that. I'm pretty sure that Virgos (not just Virgos but whole Earth Signs) would much benefit from understanding Water Signs. Most of Water Signs has already passed the places that Earth Signs try to figure out.
Overcomplicating? Who said that we overcomplicate? This term is especially for people like you Brahn0913. It is you who overcomplicate things pretty hard while truth is much simplier.lol
It is earth signs quality to discuss everything up-down, left-right to get something real happening. Water signs are easy and simple. You just function on different wavelenght which needs alot of explainations.
Some people moved by emotions while some people moved by words. People who moved by emotions have much higher understanding than people who moved by words.
It is much easier to communicate with water signs and make things done with them while earth signs require alot of explaination. Screw that Brahn0913. Earth signs just don't get it. Simply as that. It is them who need to be explained everything again to them, because they can't function otherwise. Earth sign people are bond with less understanding and for that why, they see things limited.
I didn't get the % 80 of what you have said Brahn0913, but I can say you one thing: Water Sign people do have their own learning ways. You can encounter a Water person on particular development stage as well as Earth person.
I don't agree with your last statement Brahn0913. Most of it doesn't fit into general picture. Bending on every emotional whim? Is this how you see it? No dude. It's not bending. It's controlling. But not in the way you understand it. We control people that way to make them help themselves out. But you see this as bending..interesting.
"And you can find an Earth person who is as emotional keen as an Water sign. Astrology just tell people what they are predisposed to do, not what they ultimately develope to understand."
And? If you remove astrology, what I say is still true.
Whereither you call it bending, lack of control or whatever you like, I know the truth and the truth is "what I say is working". Yes the way I do is working. You can call it "bending" lack of control etc etc, but in practice it works and this is all I need to know.
""So now is your chance to tell me why you think so. Use as many words as you like, just make it clear. Go""
Lol! And we are back to square 1. I told you that Eath signs require alot of words to understand and you again askink me for words. LOL! Water signs does not function that way, get it already!!!
"Water people have a difficult time in cultures that value reason and logic. They grasp relationships, whether human, societal, or cosmic, on a nonverbal, intuitive, vibrational level. Air signs proceed logically from A to Z. Water signs rely on personal intuition to arrive at Z without even being aware of A or anything in between. When air signs impatiently ask them how they came to their conclusions, they say, "I just know.""
Well, I guess being a fish I might throw my wishy-washy view in, as ambiguity seems to be my speciality. I agree with brahn as emotional reasoning can be somewhat inpractical and ineffectual if it is something that consumes a person. Helping people is fine, understanding someone is even better. But what happens when you become so caught up on someone else's life that you forget to live your own? I've had this happen many times. Sometimes in an attempt to understand my own problems, but for the most part it has been because I am too much of a people pleaser. It may be insecurities or good nature or even my inability to find a practical route to diffuse my own problems. Whatever the reason, that is my cross to bear. Balance is key! Emotionalism and practicality may be at opposite ends of the spectrum, but they both have their place. I pride myself on compassion and understanding, but yet yearn to be more grounded. That is where my earth friends come into play. I have many friends who are virgos. And being my opposite, I am very much aware of the differences that are inherent. What they lack I have and vice versa. As much as I see them guiding me to be more practical, I also see a chance for them to feel. Maybe that is a romatic belief that I entertain, but again that is my perception...and my perception shapes my reality.
I will be the first to admit that I am completely emotional and tend to live in another world guided by instincts and feelings..that is how I process everything: how it makes me feel. But that is not to say that I am not willing to learn from my more grounded counterpart. Balance: fire, water, earth, air. If you look in your chart, all of the elements are represented, but may not be expressed. That is why is it important to be open to everyone who is different and see their perspective as a possibility for growth, instead of rigidity and close-mindedness. That's my two cents, anyway!
I don't take my emotions lightly by any means, but I do believe there are opportunities where other forms of reasoning could be more effective and less painful. But for everything there are rewards and pain.
I see everyone as having gifts and sharing those gifts with others spreads more than just understanding. Some value those gifts, others see them as annoying. I see being an emotional, feeling person as a gift and I know others who do so, as well. I don't want to be something I am not, and emotionalism definately is a part of who I am. I have TONS of water in my chart, so it's something I cannot deny, just harness.
By my post, I was trying to convey that not ALL water signs are basket cases devoid any common sense or any real desire for practicality. It's funny how this board is a place for people to voice their opinions and seek insight, but often it becomes personal and derogatory. It's never been directed towards me, per se, but it's still becomes verbal sparring instead of an exchange of information. Maybe that's why I haven't posted much, but still I see a lot of intelligent people here who want nothing more than to share that knowledge. Knowledge, is of course, the root of understanding. Each person has different experiences and different stories to tell. I see that as an opportunity to learn something..that's all I was trying to say.
Thanks for you kind words, though. I appreciate it!
"I pride myself on compassion and understanding, but yet yearn to be more grounded. That is where my earth friends come into play. I have many friends who are virgos. And being my opposite, I am very much aware of the differences that are inherent. What they lack I have and vice versa. As much as I see them guiding me to be more practical, I also see a chance for them to feel."
This whole text suggests one thing: Water quality means impracticality (or less practically than Earth or Air signs). No, it is not.
Ok..I can see how that implied that those qualities go hand in hand with impracticality. That was not what I meant, however. What I meant is I have my head in the clouds quite a bit and just need someone to hold my feet not, because I am compassionate or understanding, but just because I am me. I am just attracted to the logical thinking of earth signs and in no way meant that being water means being impractical. Emotions serve a purpose and I do consider that sort of relating very practical and quite useful. I am a massage therapist and those qualities are very much an essential ingredient to my success. I was referring to my personal difficulties with day-to-day things. I guess I could have been a bit clearer on my reasoning. I apologize.
See lady.. There is nothing wrong for being emotional... most of the time its damn sweet too? but there must some kind of balance and moderations here.. or else you alienate every one around you? why..??
Because we all are different.. if you play emotionally (tough).. people start running from you.. ?lack of sensitivities or compassions?, on the other hand if you play too sensitive you?re going to making hard for both yourself and your partner.
Moderations are needed here (controlling yourself, not your partner).This facts are a second nature to understand by Virgo natives earlier in their life. Generally in relation, unhappy may happen? but not inconsiderate.
In Virgos territory? things are different.. we either accept.. or reject.. and no Virgo I know of playing this kind of emotional ride.. No other signs in these 12 symbols of Zodiac are as honest (with both themselves and their partners, as Virgos are).
My question remains?. Why the untrue accusation mostly comes from the water signs..??, worse? are you calculating honesty with your own standard or universal standard..?? if it is your own standard.. then why complain? or if it is universal standard? then who make the rules..??
Lot of ebb and flow with the water signs?. At least 2 times a month? by knowing this? would anyone can call the water sign natives as stable in (what ever ship they follow)..??
What is stable to you then..??
And the funny is.. you are all blame it on Virgo? first stupid available is Cancerbuddy and next fool is Haffool?
"but there must some kind of balance and moderations here.. or else you alienate every one around you? why..??"
Moderation is only required to be applied for less understanding Signs such as Virgo. Other than that, everything is perfectly in ballance and logical sence.
I really dont know wheather my opinion here will post any significant and again just a opinion dont take it personnal.
I think water, earth, fire and air. Have each thier own good and bad traits. Thier is really nothing to compare with the signs itself. Actually, thier is no means to measure on which is more superior to others. This is because each signs have different ways/means of understanding. Especially on the part of water signs(which is said to be emotional) when compared to virgo's(which is said to be logical), this would go endless since emotional people have a different priority when it comes to superiority so as logical people have thier own different priority. It will be like playing the same game in different rules.
lol,I was going to post something similar to that patron but decided against it,did it before and didn't go anywhere awhile back on the aqua board apparently with another scorp on her high horse about air being nothing since shes still an aqua basher.I like my multi-elemental(but only one air sign) chart lol.
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