Selfish Virgo?

I know tons of Virgo and they all come off as selfish. When I bring it up, they always have a nice excuse. What's up with extreme selfishness?

Posted by oldskoolflavor
(I'm a Libra.. IDRK what I'm talking about)

what else is new lol any ways back to the topic virgo is not a push over sign even though you go online and read about us it sounds like we are but we are not. We will help but if we feel like we are getting used or played we will stop cold turkey. You have to give me an example of your friends being self fish because thats more of an opinion than fact.

Yes, they can be VERY selfish. They can be sweet, but nothing will stop a Virgo from doing what he/she wants to do, and they have no problems being a burden on others, which is another sign of selfishness.

Maybe they used to be too nice in the past and became disillusioned and decided to go to the other extreme.

could be virgodreamz.

Why an extreme at all, Virgodreamz?

Wouldn't moderation suffice much better?

I've lived with a Virgo partner for nearly 3 decades ... and I've seen him very selfish, at times ... however, I've also seen him ....


... generous, mad, happy, greedy, unreasonable, helpful, thoughtful, unforgiving, sensual, irritable, silly, demanding, patient, and everything inbetween.


so, what's your point?

What did he do?

Posted by P-Angel
Why an extreme at all, Virgodreamz?

I chose a response that pertains to actions that I've seen from other people as a possible explanation for the OPs question. I am aware that this may not necessarily be the case for the tons of extremely selfish virgos the OP is referring to but without further details I feel that it is still a viable theory at the moment.

Other possible theories include but are not limited to:
The tons of extremely selfish virgos were born to rich rockefelleresque parents who raised them to be spoiled soulless hilton demons with coloured contacts and 100% human hair platinum blond extensions
The tons of extremely selfish virgos were orphans who were not raised at all
The tons of extremely selfish virgos are octuplets with some sort of blight in their virtually identical planetary charts predisposing them to vile narcissistic tendencies until their final breath escapes their bodies.

and so on and so forth??_.

Posted by P-Angel


Wouldn't moderation suffice much better?

Yes it certainly would. By mentioning a specific type of action I am not advocating it as a recourse to a negative behaviour pattern.

Posted by P-Angel
I've lived with a Virgo partner for nearly 3 decades ... and I've seen him very selfish, at times ... however, I've also seen him ....


... generous, mad, happy, greedy, unreasonable, helpful, thoughtful, unforgiving, sensual, irritable, silly, demanding, patient, and everything inbetween.


so, what's your point?

My point was to offer one of many possible answers to the OP's question

Posted by P-Angel

What did he do?

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I don't know maybe take him to the doctor to rule out hypoglycemia, bipolar or other disorders resulting in the extreme mood swings you've described.

Here are few examples -

- only calling when he/she needs something
- if saying hi to a cousin after long time, first thing he brings up is business and how to make money
- in a conversation, focus is always on virgo. Try changing the topic and they will get bored. I told my friend about this, so now he shoves in few min of hows life, family etc
- saying stuff like willing to step over friends to reach the billion dollar goal.

Posted by P-Angel
I've lived with a Virgo partner for nearly 3 decades ... and I've seen him very selfish, at times ... however, I've also seen him ....


... generous, mad, happy, greedy, unreasonable, helpful, thoughtful, unforgiving, sensual, irritable, silly, demanding, patient, and everything inbetween.


so, what's your point?

What did he do?

Thanks for answering, VirgoDreamz, but, I was talking to the person who created the thread.

Ah well, we all die anyways.

Posted by oldskoolflavor
(I'm a Libra.. IDRK what I'm talking about)

To start that's the problem....Right there above.

People can call us selfish and it was meant about all since it is on the VIRGO forum....It's clear after reading all the messages that you will never understand one if you even tried.As for focus I don't like attention although I get anyway.Just think of it as the red dress thought since I once had one and the focus was on me.I didn't want the attention since most of the time I there for reasons and to get through to another person but that makes us selfish to you from the words you wrote.

Half the time I try to get attention to other things yet you think we think it's all about us or do you mean because it's a virgin sign?

Looks who posted afterwards and if your the libra then why are you posting on the virgo forum....Who really wants attention?

Maybe's it's the need to try to get someone mad because it's your need to get control so that I will not post when I'm not at the libra's part or do you see things differently than I.

Posted by oldskoolflavor
those have chosen to show you what they want you to perceive,
and don't care for you to have a better understanding of them.

That... sounds pretty accurate to me. For me, at least.

Posted by Curiouscapri
Here are few examples -
- only calling when he/she needs something

Calling incurs a cost, an unnecessary one at that. Instant messengers are free.
2nd Decans are the worst offenders in this "calling" department.

- if saying hi to a cousin after long time, first thing he brings up is business and how to make money

Again, sounds like second decans.
Virgos are goal oriented.

- in a conversation, focus is always on virgo. Try changing the topic and they will get bored. I told my friend about this, so now he shoves in few min of hows life, family etc

Hmmm, we are a mutable sign, easily bored.
However, I would disagree on topics only about me. People just generally have nothing interesting to say. Endless superficial crap, Cardinal and Air signs are guilty of this.

- saying stuff like willing to step over friends to reach the billion dollar goal.

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Funny coming from a Cap 😉

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by P-Angel
I've lived with a Virgo partner for nearly 3 decades ... and I've seen him very selfish, at times ... however, I've also seen him ....


... generous, mad, happy, greedy, unreasonable, helpful, thoughtful, unforgiving, sensual, irritable, silly, demanding, patient, and everything inbetween.


so, what's your point?

What did he do?

Thanks for answering, VirgoDreamz, but, I was talking to the person who created the thread.

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Oops pardon

Posted by 25thDecan
Mother Theresa was exceptionally selfish...she kept whatever guy was supposed to marry her from having some good lovin by becoming a nun. HOW SELFISH OF HER!

She always spoke for some sick, malnourished child before herself or any of the other nuns...who just wanted to bone most of the priests anyway.
HOW SELFISH OF HER!

Rush Limbaugh has sex with underage Dominican prostitutes and never talks about people who simply ARE less fortunate than he ever was...you know...son of a judge....born into a capitalist society....wait...he's a capricorn.

*rolls eyes

1. Rush's father was actually a lawyer. by reading several of your posts, you seem to mention Rush on occasion. i'm not sure why you always mention him. there are some very prominent liberals in this country who you could mention, but for whatever reason, you never do.
The irony is most people on your side of the so called aisle seem to love attorneys. one of the reasons why we'll never get tort reform ever done in Congress.

2. do you know for a fact that he had sex with Dominican prostitutes or if that just your fabrication? just curious if you hold the late Ted Kennedy to the same standard? it was fact that he has many mistresses on the side etc. in fact, all the Kennedy's were known for this.

3. never talks about people who are less fortunate than he? apparently you don't listen to his show or know how much he gives to charity. most people i've met who always bring up Rush in a hateful manner usually don't listen to him long enough to really understand what he's all about, but rather listen to the soundbites venomous anchors like Keith Oberman spew all the time. from that they conclude that Rush is so terrible etc. yet these same people rarely hold liberals who actually are elite hypocrites to the same standard.

4. capitalist society? so you don't like capitalism either? would you prefer living under a dictator as Chavez or the benevolent premier of China whose country slaughters baby girls and dumps them into rivers? my parents saw this practice with their own eyes back in the mid '80's.

Look, I'm not a huge Rush fan, but I do listen to him on occasion. In fact this may be surprising for you, but he's not conservative enough for me. For a man who who dropped out of college and worked many jobs getting fired many times, he realized what his passion was and f

Look, I'm not a huge Rush fan, but I do listen to him on occasion. In fact this may be surprising for you, but he's not conservative enough for me. For a man who who dropped out of college and worked many jobs getting fired many times, he realized what his passion was and found a medium to develop his talents. Love him or hate him, anyone who questions his individual prowess doesn't recognize talent. He has set the standard when it comes to talk radio. He is extremely well read and can debate utilizing substantial facts, much of which are merely comments/quotes made by those who attack him; and yet, he can throw in a sense of humor using parodies and impersonations that are hilarious. I know most liberals hate him. It's funny that most liberal talk radio has failed over the years. Maybe it does take real talent and knowledge to make a show work?

I respect your opinions 25th and find you to be a very intelligent and informative poster of substance in most areas. But you do seem to show your political slant at times when honestly, it's probably not even warranted.

tonight's topic was about virgo's being selfish. Rush isn't even a virgo as you mentioned. so why bring him up? it's akin to how minutes after Jerrod Laughner shot the congresswoman and others in Tucson, liberal news outlets as MSNBC, CNN and the big 3 networks were all calling him a former Afgahnistan veteran and tea party member who hated Congresswomen Giffords. Well only ONE of those statements were fact. He hated Giffords. But guys like Oberman, C. Matthews, NBC's Chuck Todd and the NY Times to name just a very few news sources that typical lean to the left were so quick to label him a crazed right wing militia member because it fit their personal agenda. Yet when the Fort Hood killer, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 13 and wounded 29 others, it was the same media (Oberman/Matthews lead the charge) who instructed all of America to "don't make a rush to judgement and don't bring up the fact that Hasan was a Muslim...Do not make any conclusions, let the facts play out first...." Do you not see the hypocrisy in this? I know many Americans do.

That is why Rush has the most successful talk radio show. That is why Fox News gets higher ratings than MSNBC and CNN combined. That is why papers as the NY Times, The Washington Post and the LA Times are losing so many subscribers and finding it very hard to compete with the "new media" (web sites/blogs etc.) media which a

That is why Rush has the most successful talk radio show. That is why Fox News gets higher ratings than MSNBC and CNN combined. That is why papers as the NY Times, The Washington Post and the LA Times are losing so many subscribers and finding it very hard to compete with the "new media" (web sites/blogs etc.) media which actually prints facts and reports the news rather than tries to make the news and push an agenda. And yes, despite the fact that Fox News is blowing away the competition, they do also have an agenda. So I don't question your stance on that if you believe it. In fact, all state run news (which is what we have) pushes a certain agenda.

Now add to that, Obama just made the CEO of GE, the company that owns NBC, his new economic and jobs advisor. Do you not see that Obama and GE have their own agenda? GE has done business with Iran for years. GE just did a huge deal with China prior to the Premier of China's visit in DC. Now if you're referring to this type of underhanded deals being a downfall of capitalism to some extent, I would agree with you. However, Obama refuses to raise tariffs on China, who exports tons of goods into this country. Much of it utter crap and some even toxic. Yet China places big tariffs on our exports into their country. So when Obama allows China to sell their tons of goods to the US and places no tariff on them, which then subjects this country's corporations to huge tariffs when selling our goods to China, would you say that Obama understands or is doing the right thing for those in this country who work for a living and rely upon selling their goods overseas? You can't claim that a guy like Rush has never understood or doesn't care about the less fortunate if at the same time you see little discrepancy in Obama's actions/agenda. If you do, then it's exactly the same as embracing Keith Oberman's double standard on "rushing to judgement" when it comes to parallel scenarios. For the record. There are very good conservatives in this world who have done a lot and given much to charity. There are also many liberals who have done the same. It's just that conservatives never get recognized for their contributions because the mainstream media, who mostly lean to the left, would rather push that all conservative are gun toting, racist, homophobes who believe in smaller, less intrusive government are selfish and mean spirited. Did I about cover it?

back to the topic at hand....having known several

back to the topic at hand....having known several virgo men in my lifetime, I can honestly say that one was very selfish. I'm not sure if it was because he was a virgo or if it's because he was insecure. I've found people in general come with the same basic set of qualities, challenges and often failures. Those who rise above conflict and obstacles do so because of hard work, dedication, perseverance, convictions, goals and direction. Those who don't usually blame others for their failure and don't accept personal accountability.

Some are just insecure and will never grow up or perhaps, don't know how to. I grew up with an abusive alcoholic father who treated my family, especially my mother like crap.
He abused her when she was dying from breast cancer I had to call the cops. She died and I lost my only support. During my childhood he berated me and told me I would never be successful in life nor smart enough to do anything with my life. Thank God I got involved in tennis and my tennis coach became my father figure. He probably saved my life because he believed in me and gave me a chance. I didn't grow up rich. I didn't grow up with a loving father. I didn't grow up with many options other than to accept what I had and work hard to succeed in something. I did. And I hold my conservative convictions and practices very dear to my heart. Because without them, I probably would have given up and lost all hope. So you see 25th, good people come in all shapes, sizes, colors, creeds and races. And imho, no one sign has a monopoly on selfishness or compassion. It's really that simple.

Just to begin I do not like being referred to as sweetie or honey...The sweetie part because That's Right I'm not twelve and the honey part because to me that is a word used for a person with an obsession Usually for another person too.That's a problem I don't have and never have had.In all honesty I don't like attention and I'm aware that others like your self do more than I ever have.

Almost back to the subject selfish Virgo well here's somethings that might be of interest...For virgo's to be selfish.Well did you know that California was founded in virgo!Just the way Gemini have two states founded for them...Capricorn have a few founded in there time.

Yet Virgo's are the selfish ones...When they are the ones that allow people to express themselves without judgment and end up getting a good living made for lots of people.While people set fires to the state and do other things than that.Oh let me guess that is what your meaning of selfishness is meant about!I don't mean that California is responsible for every self expression although alot comes from the state.

How's that for selfishness...

Here's something for selfishness if all Virgo's were to come together and teach other virgins since that is the part of the Virgo that they should not reproduce children for the future...This being of course of the meanness expressed to virgo's about virgin's.Would this then not help the growth of people for the years to come not to have new children to be able to carry on human history along with life to keep the world doing that yearly growth of virgins and virgo's.After all since we are the selfish and hated if we stay virgins. Would people then not have to find a new way to carry on life?

After all this person is admitting that he does not like virgins in a way because he finds them selfish...Well the truth is we could become real selfish.Without new life somethings would not be able to exist and I don't mean everything.This of course would be done without killing much like the way so many grown people do end up doing to some virgins for no reason other than the type of feeling this guy has.We get misunderstood and are thought of as selfish because of certain reasons.

Point being Virgo's could be real selfish if they took the time to realize the meanness that gets meant and express about there kind...You must not think or know about feeling that have been expressed about virgins/virgo alike.Just like I'm sure just the people being a virgin because of their choice if not age.I know this meant be extreme for some people or even alittle much but I've been doing some thinking for years actually since I was born about these types of things to change things for the world.

I even use to go to church and pray to let things be known that would be happening...Also about what other people would be doing.Do you know what happened more Virgo's or at least I was told they were moved around me.Then they came into the neighborhood and started doing what I had being praying about or letting god know.I just would like you to know that at least we care about more people than just ourselves at least some of us do.

"Never make someone a priorty when you are only an option for them"- Colin Powell. I carry that one in my wallet.Selfish? It is according to what type of relationship history that I've had with a person,whoever it may be.When some folks call,I automatically think,"groan,what do they want now?".Most of those folks,I've managed to weed out of my life.I am not a bank or a therapist.I also understand other people have large issues ongoing in their lives they just can't get a handle on or keep in touch that often.Sometimes,by the time I reconnect with them,they don't even want to talk about it.Then give you mega-attitude for even bringing it up.
I also don't have a knack for small talk and I don't want to hear anymore of some ongoing saga,that somewhere down the line will eventually involve my resources.I've got stuff to do too.*picks up to do list*I won't help with the petty stuff or with some crap storm that someone created on purpose whether subconsciously or not.Don't get me wrong,if it's an emergency and I can help,I will.But otherwise,I'm selective with my time and generosity.I've got time to sit with my ailing aunt but if you want me to go by your supposedly ex-boyfriends' house to see who's up in his driveway.Pfff.
Goals are great to have.There are some schools of thought that say ; mingle with people that are headed up the path that you want to follow.Not to mooch off of them, but to soak in the vibe and to help you to keep focused on the way to your self actualized self.
Also Curiouscapri,not to be harsh on you ,maybe explore your options,maybe some other Virgos are a better fit for you.
I'm sure some folks probably have someone in their past,they wish they could reconfigure like a Mr Potatoe Head.If you aren't with a person 24/7,you don't know who they are taking time to be unselfish for.But there are the totally self involved all day long,Virgo or not.But,this seems true,"you can't change a person,only they can change themselves".When life gives them a good thump on the head,they will.I plan,prioritize then proceed.If your on my list,lucky you.*Chuckle*

Virgos can def come across as self centred, this is simply due to their nervous energy making them stiff and rigid and not seeing the big picture. That's why Virgos are often seen as boring. But Virgo is actually extremely selfless as a person, meaning they crave wanting to help ppl rather than themselves. A big give away for ppl that are selfish is this - does the person tend to talk alot about themselves. You'll find Virgo especially the males not reveal alot - when in person, forget the keyboard warrior virgos on this forum, they are all opinionated, but may be completely diff. if u were to meet them. Virgos i find are not selfish enough and don't help themselves similar to Pisces, i have found aries, sags, caps and taurus a little on the selfish side.

Posted by lnana04
Yes, they can be VERY selfish. They can be sweet, but nothing will stop a Virgo from doing what he/she wants to do, and they have no problems being a burden on others, which is another sign of selfishness.

Yes, that about does it for me 😄

Yimpers!

I have the PERFECT example of HOW UTTERLY SELFISH one Virgo was. I engaged in dialogue with a guy who lives in Texas, we clicked. I'm cancer, he's virgo. We spent 5 weeks emailing, texting, phone calls, and FaceTime. I was very attracted to him. Two weeks into our dialogues, as we started to plan a romantic rendevous, he revealed that he's HIV positive. I didn't bat an eye as I know it's not a deal breaker for me. But as our "sexting" continued, I realized he was hoping to engage in unsafe sex practices. I am HIV NEGATIVE! I spent two weeks watching him avoid certain emotional messages, withdrawing for hours, stop texting in the middle of conversations - and always thought "hmmm, a bit selfish of him" he CLAIMS to want to meet MY NEEDS (as a cancerian, I'm VERY romantic and emotional)...but when I asked him for kinds words, "you can't tell me what to do, it has to come naturally" was the response. But then, the kicker. Our plans for a meeting in Miami got postponed and I couldn't wait to learn what he expected sexually that long. I asked him, "Is it a problem for you that I'm HIV negative?" - "No, why?" well, "what do you expect we will do sexually, safe sex?" he said, "I guess it's up to you."

That's selfish to want to have unsafe sex with a negative person knowing full well you are HIV POSITIVE! My life at risk for you— And to boot, because I brought up that subject, he shut down and withdrew two days. He finally resurfaced when I said I am walking away because you can't communicate. He told me he felt rejected because of his HIV status!

I was never opposed to continuing to engage in a relationship based on his status. It's his selfishness that was our demise! And to add insult to injury, he turned it around to make himself a victim of discrimination. HOW F-ed UP CAN VIRGO BE?

I dodged a big bullet, literally.

Posted by CluelessCancer
Mother Theresa lets not even get into her weird brain and manipulative nature. People starving she died with millions in the Bank.

First off, I don't know the story.

But what does someone having money in the bank have to do with other people starving?

Posted by CluelessCancer
—? Is this a serious question?

Quite.