VIRGO AND KIDS

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Magenta and thinktoomuch wtf is wrong with you two? I asked a question. I asked it without jeering. If you can't answer like normal civilized people do just go away please.

SingASong- I don't know myself. He cares about me, makes small gestures that are meaningful just for him and me to show me and others I am his girl. He's affectionate and so on but he wants kids. I mean HE. WANTS. KIDS. And I am worried somewhere deep down in my heart that he just needs incubator for a child. He wants kids that bad. Oh. Sorry. I mistook. He actually said he loves me unconditionally once. ONCE. When I was about to go through the door with my stuff in boxes because I was absolutely sure he doesn't love me and I just have to leave to not to hurt myself. Then he said it. Since then not even once again.
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Posted by Scorpiegurl
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
To me it sounds that you're just unsure where you stand with him.



You're right. That's exactly how it is. I just don't want to be that machine to carry and give birth to a child.
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So, let me get this straight .... you know EXACTLY how it is.

Yet, you come in here to make your presentation, and when you do make this presentation .... you word it as if to say that you're clueless to what's going on.

Then when people treat you 'exactly' as the energy you conveyed in this presentation ... you get your panties wadded up your ass and act like they don't know what they are talking about.

when in reality ... they are responded "exactly" as you presented yourself.


So, the logical conclusion then becomes (since it's been proven that you talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time) .... this thread only exists because you want to complain that in 4 years time, your passive/aggressiveness hasn't paid off - as in, you're still sitting there whining after four years, that you're not happy about your life choice, so you decided to put him on blast
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To me it sounds that you're just unsure where you stand with him.



You're right. That's exactly how it is. I just don't want to be that machine to carry and give birth to a child.



Yet, you come in here to make your presentation, and when you do make this presentation .... you word it as if to say that you're clueless to what's going on.
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No. I know what's going on. He wants to have kids with me and marry me. But I don't know what are his motives. Maybe he just needs someone to carry his child. I see how he treats children- he's so bubbly and joyful. When he sees them his eyes lightens up. And when he's with me... he... I don't know how to express that. He's never bubbly and playful. You know those couples in movies when woman is running on the beach, her boyfriend is trying to catch her. When they eat ice cream a man grabs his cone of ice cream and steeps her nose tip into that ice cream then kisses her nose. You know. All those small funny things that couples do. And he never told me he loves me except that one time when I was at the door to leave. He would be an amazing dad. i know. But how about me? Actually I made the wrong question. I asked "does it mean I'm the one/" when my real question was "is it possible that he doesn't love me and just needs me to carry his child?"
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Sounds like waffle to me.

Four years in, you live together, only said the 'L' word once when he thought you were buggering off forever...

Has he proposed?

Are you engaged?

Are you planning a wedding?

If none of the above then it's just waffle.

People are saying to look at his actions. Well, his actions are not showing he is marrying you.

Virgo likes security. People say they're selective but sometimes they will be with someone or stay with someone out of convenience. There might be some truth in the incubator thing!
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sounds like he is being logical about it instead of emotion more like "well been with her for 4 years, she will make a good mother and wife, welp yeah she will do she is the closest to my version of perfect."

follwing his head more so his heart. You need someone to confess their love for you not in the middle of moving boxes saying "hey lets get married." You need romance that is what feeds your soul.

you speak two different love languages and you should further investigate his true intentions and don't marry him until he opens his heart to you. They are capable of it make him take down that facade!
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You know I'm a Virgo and fairly talkative, but I try to never say anything I don't mean. I often carefully pick my words to avoid this. And if I'm not sure how i feel about someone/thing? I would rather say nothing at all. Of course, I don't just broadcast my feelings either, but if I trust someone enough I will eventually.

If he hasn't said he loves you in four years*, he either doesn't love you, doesn't feel comfortable enough with you to tell you he loves you, or still isn't sure yet. No one here, virgo or not, can read his mind. The only way you are ever going to know, is if you just go ask him yourself.

Second, my entire family is stock full of Scorpios, and you know what? You guys can be a nutty mix of crazily intuitive and kinda neurotic. You sense something is off, and then your imagination just takes off creating some crazy scenarios of why. He probably doesn't see you as a baby incubator. There are much easier ways of getting a baby after all, than marrying someone you don't want. You are probably sensing something though, so you need to sit down and talk to him.

If your 4 year relationship can't survive this very necessary talk you need to have, it definitely won't survive I do....

*Under duress does not count...

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Posted by thinktoomuch
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Has he proposed? Yep

Are you engaged? Yep

Are you planning a wedding? Ermmm... we should start soon (in one- two months. I said I need time to "adapt" myself to the fact that we're engaged. If not that we would be already planning it)



WTF? My answer was just as serious as anybody elses in here.

I am a scorpio myself and just made a topic about scorpios and being suspicious. Some posted, that scorpios are always wondering about the MOTIVES of others - ring a bell—— He has proposed, you guys are engaged, he wants to have babies with you, and still YOU doubt him!—— If he doesn't make you feel loved, then you should leave. Obviously he is who he is, it's on you if you don't feel the kind of love, that he gives. Not to put blaim on you like that, but starting to question his motives about something this serious!?!?! I mean, THAT??S suspicious gone too far! It's in your own mind then.

I read about scorpio in venus, that we (I have that, don't know about you) often fall into relationships, that are not good to us, we know they wont work, but we do it, because we want some passion in our lives - something to fight for, something to feel etc. Sounds like exactly what you??re doing. You should ask yourself: do you LOVE him? Is he the right one for you, if you can't feel his love even after all he's said and done? I hope the answer is yes and that you work it out, but think good and hard about it.
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Yes. That's the problem. I LOVE HIM. I sincerely do. And it'd hurt me like hell if he just wanted to use me as a "machine for a baby". Because I truly love him. But I don't know about him. I mean c'mon you take care of a woman, you want to have kids with her, you say things like "I want to be the only one for you" but you never ever say "I love you"? Like seriously? You can't admit you love a woman you wanna mary and have kids with? Especially when she's always affectionate, wanna-huggle-and-snuggle-and-remind-how-much-I-love-you-everyday type—??What the actual heck? You are right. There are so many questions I have to answer myself. It won't be the time to think about that when I'll be carrying a baby or married. Because I see how he hugs kids, sits them on his lap and etc and so on but he rarely hugs me out of
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Posted by thinktoomuch
But how can you love someone, if you don't trust them? Or understand them? Or is willing to communicte with them? Tell him, you need to hear it more.




Exactly, your main issue is you're talking to everyone here, instead of talking to him about all of this. It's not like any of this will go away or change, just because you guys are married. If it upsets you now, it'll probably upset you even more when you're pregenant, and dealing with all those crazy emotions.


Have you tried talking to him about this in the past? Besides that one time you almost left. I mean calmly talked it out with him before?
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Posted by Scorpiegurl
No 😢 I don't want to look needy or smth. I've heard virgos run for the hills in situations like that because it scares them.



I'm new to this site, so I'm not really sure what is said of Virgos and such, just personal experience, friends, ect. But, as a virgo, yeah I wouldn't handle a situation like that well...in the beginning...or maybe even a year in lol, but I wouldn't automatically run either.

You're emotional he's not, so what? You've been together for four years, I'm sure he knows this about you already. You still need to have this talk with him, and see if there is some middle ground you guys can reach, where you both will be happy with the relationship. Cause you don't sound very happy with the relationship btw.

If you're really worried about freaking him out, just try to stay calm about it, and not too dramatic.
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Thanx guys for all your help 🙂I realized that I am just being paranoid like thinktoomuch said and should calm my ass down. 🙂



No, you're not being paranoid. You have real, important feelings around your relationship that you need to address and discuss BEFORE those issues are compounded with marriage and children.

Learn to communicate honestly with him now. If you let fear of loosing him hold you from speaking up it will probably blow up 4xs worse in the future