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Virgo Dating and Age
IMHO, 10 years is the max gap until you're a Senior Citizen. That is, an 80 YO dating a 60 YO is not as creepy as a 35 YO dating a 15 YO...
As for the Young Guys: I think y'all are at a disadvantage in that lots of gals your age think you're immature, and they will compare you to the older more successful men in ways that aren't fair.
My wife is 10 years younger than me. Personally, if I were single, I wouldn't date anyone under 25. But, anyone under 30, I would have to hang out with alot before taking it even as far as a kiss. I would need to make sure we were on the same wavelength.
However, if I were single and a hot 21 year old wanted a one nighter, I'm game. lol
However, if I were single and a hot 21 year old wanted a one nighter, I'm game. lol
VM: My wife is 10 years younger than me.
Same here. That's why I put that as my personal limit.
However, if I were single and a hot 21 year old wanted a one nighter, I'm game.
Man's gotta do what a man's gotta do!
I mentioned Johnny Depp because I can't imagine getting into an LTR with a girl young enough to be my daughter -- that's creepy. Plus, what would we talk about?
Steve Martin has a comedy bit on dating much younger women - AND much older women... hilarious!!
I can only go with someone a year younger than me and about 5 years older...but for some reason 35 and up guys seem to like me :/
Posted by TheMoodyVulcan
I know I'm going to look shallow and materialistic for admitting this, which isn't an altogether unfair assessment, but I look at this scenario in terms of practicality. Let's say that I have two men vying for my attention at the same time, and for the sake of argument one is 25 and the other is 40.
25 year old: fresh out of college (assuming he attended one); up to his eyeballs in debt; earning entry level pay; still believes that jeans and a t-shirt are acceptable attire anywhere, fart jokes are funny, and that beer will cure all of his problems; terrified of commitment and children.
40 year old: educated; experienced; has probably gathered a comfortable nest egg through savings, acquisitions and investments; estabolished in life; has learned how to be more refined; grown into his maturity; potentially more prepared to settle down responsibly; doesn't still have his mother doing his laundry.
Obviously there are going to be exceptions to both of these examples. There are young men who are more mature and older ones that aren't. But looking at from this angle alone it's pretty clear which one I'm going to go for. The 40 year old offers more security, comfort, and a strategic point of access for my own ambitions.
Is that unfair to younger men? Absolutely. But how many times have we heard about how life isn't fair?
Hahahahaha.....I was waiting for this. I would have died if none of the virgo woman had said this.
Most virgo women I know would do this analysis and go straight for the money...lol.
Posted by TheMoodyVulcan
*shrug*
It's logical to me. At least I'm honest enough to admit it lol.
Don't get me wrong....it's perfectly reasonable. Everyone has the right to make choices based on their own logic.
What I found funny was all the virgos who posted earlier didn't go for it 😛
Posted by VirgoMerlot
My wife is 10 years younger than me. Personally, if I were single, I wouldn't date anyone under 25. But, anyone under 30, I would have to hang out with alot before taking it even as far as a kiss. I would need to make sure we were on the same wavelength.
However, if I were single and a hot 21 year old wanted a one nighter, I'm game. lol
10 yrs max is ok. I think the 21 yr old one nighter is slightly too disgusting. That's like hitting pedophile wall regardless of her being age appropriate. The girl would have to be a whore to engage with someone more than 14 yrs older. IMO
It deletef a word... ..." the girl would have to be a wh0r3..."
Posted by kindleberryPosted by VirgoMerlot
My wife is 10 years younger than me. Personally, if I were single, I wouldn't date anyone under 25. But, anyone under 30, I would have to hang out with alot before taking it even as far as a kiss. I would need to make sure we were on the same wavelength.
However, if I were single and a hot 21 year old wanted a one nighter, I'm game. lol
10 yrs max is ok. I think the 21 yr old one nighter is slightly too disgusting. That's like hitting pedophile wall regardless of her being age appropriate. The girl would have to be a whore to engage with someone more than 14 yrs older. IMOclick to expand
Lets look at this, shall we? I specifically said a 21 year old, and not an 18 year old. Where would I most likely meet a 21 year old? A BAR!
It has never happened before, and I doubt it ever will. My wife is the youngest person I've ever been with. But if I were single, and at a bar, I would not turn away a good looking girl who was drinking. I'd be drinking, and so would she. If she came onto me, what's the problem here?
What do y'all think of the theory that as older men hook up more often with younger women, it causes problems for the young men in who are in their age group? Would this encourage more Cougars??
RA: My Virgo is lol 14! Years older than I......however he doesn't look his age anf neither do I....
My wife is about 10 years my junior; but, I look about 10 years younger than I am; unfortunately, she looks about 15 years younger than she is! I haven't had anyone ask me (yet) if she's my daughter or niece, but as time goes by...
What about a 4-year age gap?
The story as widely circulated goes like this: Kaitlyn Hunt, a charming, attractive seventeen-year-old lesbian, a "femme" in subcultural terminology, became enamored with a fourteen-year-old schoolmate. In the midst of a bout of puppy love, they incited the hostility of the younger girl's parents, a pair of "religious fanatics" implacably opposed to all things natural and healthy. Since the lovers were both minors, the sneaky parents waited until Hunt turned eighteen and then swore out a complaint against her. Police arrested her on charges of "lewd and lascivious battery" on a minor child. Although offered a relatively mild plea bargain, she turned it down, and is now facing fifteen years of postgraduate lesbian studies as a guest of the state of Florida.
I fully support laws that try to prevent pedophilia, but... COME ON! These are two "kids" -- what the fuck is wrong with this country??
TMV: I really want to point a finger at homophobia here.
That was my first instinct, too. BUT... in FL, an 18 YO Boy having sex with a 14 YO girl would not have received the light plea-bargain offer Kate refused. Some judges will apply the "Romeo & Juliet" standard, but they are not required to.
As I say, this country is fucked-up! When I was going into 9th grade, I dated a girl going into 12th grade for a few months during the summer. Was SHE a filthy pervert? Nope! WE were TEENAGERS!
Can't we get some common sense laws for Young People??
Right. This is my first message on this board, but I have been reading and reading on the net about Virgo's the last weeks as a crazy woman, since ... well you can guess. I have fallen sooooo hard for this Virgo-man. My head is full with yet another 1000 questions, even after reading so much. But the main thing why I post in this thread is that I'm a 40 year old woman. And my virgo crush is 27.. I swear this is the first time EVER I fall for a younger guy, therefore please don't call me a cougar... hate that term.
You wanna know a small list of the complications? He works for me since 2 years, but has become a friend.
I'm in a relationship that is about to end, Virgo man or not, my relationship is a story that is over. Virgo crush does know my partner though and knows the relationship is almost over.
Virgo crush has either never had a girlfriend, or maybe just one. But he is rather unclear about that one. From what he tells I guess he has not had a real girlfriend yet.
There seems to be attraction between the two of us, but he is soooooo hard to read, well yadayadayada I guess...nothing new for a virgo. But because he is so hard to read I start to doubt whether it isn't just wishful thinking from my side. And the age difference of course plays a major part in that.
Any input is welcome!
You wanna know a small list of the complications? He works for me since 2 years, but has become a friend.
I'm in a relationship that is about to end, Virgo man or not, my relationship is a story that is over. Virgo crush does know my partner though and knows the relationship is almost over.
Virgo crush has either never had a girlfriend, or maybe just one. But he is rather unclear about that one. From what he tells I guess he has not had a real girlfriend yet.
There seems to be attraction between the two of us, but he is soooooo hard to read, well yadayadayada I guess...nothing new for a virgo. But because he is so hard to read I start to doubt whether it isn't just wishful thinking from my side. And the age difference of course plays a major part in that.
Any input is welcome!
^^^
I say don't worry about him being younger. Of course, I come from a history of being in relationship with two younger men, so it's easy for me to say.
I crushed for a year-and-a-half on a Virgo man 19.5 years younger. I'd visit him in the retail shop he works at. We've become friendly, and he's said that we are friends, although we never communicate outside of his store. But that's alright, because I've for the most part moved on from that crush. I still go see him though.
My current crush is 11.5 years younger, another Virgo. By now I've read so much on Virgo men, I understand where he's coming from, and I'm just letting it flow however it wants to flow.
But the main thing why I post in this thread is that I'm a 40 year old woman. And my virgo crush is 27.. I swear this is the first time EVER I fall for a younger guy
I say don't worry about him being younger. Of course, I come from a history of being in relationship with two younger men, so it's easy for me to say.
I crushed for a year-and-a-half on a Virgo man 19.5 years younger. I'd visit him in the retail shop he works at. We've become friendly, and he's said that we are friends, although we never communicate outside of his store. But that's alright, because I've for the most part moved on from that crush. I still go see him though.
My current crush is 11.5 years younger, another Virgo. By now I've read so much on Virgo men, I understand where he's coming from, and I'm just letting it flow however it wants to flow.
Oh, and I'm 52, he's 40.
And at the weekly meeting where I see him, there's a married couple where the woman is 10yrs 8mo. older.
And at the weekly meeting where I see him, there's a married couple where the woman is 10yrs 8mo. older.
thanks so much for the replies so far. Thing is that I honestly don't know what I want; I cannot tell whether this could be a long-term thing, since we are not even into any kind of relationship, dating thing or anything yet. He is just so terrible shy in these things. I don't think it helps that he's a virgo, young and inexperienced from what I can tell. But he is quite his bit of rock and roll, being in a highly creatitve job, always in the 'hot' scene in town etc... so as you say young man/older woman being the next hot thing nowadays...it might appeal to him... 😉 I think I have to post in another thread on some advice how to read his signs... I just wished he already had had some experience with women. Would make it much easier I think.
I dont know how I would fit in here because I have this weird age complex where I cant even be a month older than someone. I think its because I am the baby of the family and I like being that. Maybe Im delusional lol. Ive gotten better as the years have passed and Ive gotten older but I have always been attracted to older men. I would date 10-15 years older no problem as long as they were established and independent and single.
Although I do *prefer* guys closer to my age.
Ive grown to date 2 years younger lol as of last year though so maybe Im in Cougar training.
Although I do *prefer* guys closer to my age.
Ive grown to date 2 years younger lol as of last year though so maybe Im in Cougar training.
My Scorpio Wife's first husband is a Gemini. He could not keep his dick in his drawers - even brought their sons on a date with one of his sluts!
He's becoming a real Dirty Old Man - seduced a 19 YO girl last summer... less than half his age!
My wife is also a Scorpio. 🙂
Posted by TheMoodyVulcan
I know I'm going to look shallow and materialistic for admitting this, which isn't an altogether unfair assessment, but I look at this scenario in terms of practicality. Let's say that I have two men vying for my attention at the same time, and for the sake of argument one is 25 and the other is 40.
25 year old: fresh out of college (assuming he attended one); up to his eyeballs in debt; earning entry level pay; still believes that jeans and a t-shirt are acceptable attire anywhere, fart jokes are funny, and that beer will cure all of his problems; terrified of commitment and children.
40 year old: educated; experienced; has probably gathered a comfortable nest egg through savings, acquisitions and investments; estabolished in life; has learned how to be more refined; grown into his maturity; potentially more prepared to settle down responsibly; doesn't still have his mother doing his laundry.
Obviously there are going to be exceptions to both of these examples. There are young men who are more mature and older ones that aren't. But looking at from this angle alone it's pretty clear which one I'm going to go for. The 40 year old offers more security, comfort, and a strategic point of access for my own ambitions.
Is that unfair to younger men? Absolutely. But how many times have we heard about how life isn't fair?
+1
Posted by GenethliacLover66Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by ShakenNotStirred
My Scorpio Wife's first husband is a Gemini. He could not keep his dick in his drawers - even brought their sons on a date with one of his sluts!
He's becoming a real Dirty Old Man - seduced a 19 YO girl last summer... less than half his age!
Bleeurrgh!
Why is this taboo? Why don't I get this—click to expand
Because older men can easily take advantage of inexperienced young women.
Easy sex. Can end in disaster.
But then . . .
Young woman learns a few things about men.
She gains in experience, becomes wiser.
Life goes on.
@ Moody and @ Lioness so would that also count for a younger virgo male and an older woman?
I have always dated older. But they have been around the 5 yr range. Now that I am single again and when I am ready to enter the ring again, I am looking at the 10 year age range because they are more set in their life and stable. Plus I want a man not a boy.
Now my mother is the opposite. She been in the 5 yr range. She was 20 when she got pregnant with me, my farther was 17. Her current husband is 5 years younger then her. Which is kinda creepy for me. He is 15 years older then me and I am looking at that 10 yr +/- age range.
Now my mother is the opposite. She been in the 5 yr range. She was 20 when she got pregnant with me, my farther was 17. Her current husband is 5 years younger then her. Which is kinda creepy for me. He is 15 years older then me and I am looking at that 10 yr +/- age range.
Posted by Europesaggy
@ Moody and @ Lioness so would that also count for a younger virgo male and an older woman?
Well, my farther who was three years younger then my mother is a Virgo.......
Posted by xxoommmxxooPosted by Europesaggy
@ Moody and @ Lioness so would that also count for a younger virgo male and an older woman?
You are in your 40 s and he is 20's the sex will be good but he will hurt you.click to expand
XX- question, in your 40s as a woman and with a man who is in his 20s, I can't comprehend how the sex can be better. Men in their 20s are still just typically meeting their needs. Yeah I guess it can be exciting. For me I guess going into my prime as women enter into 30s I want quality. And an older man with experience and knowledge typically knows how to meet that quality. My Virgo friend and I discuss this at times because his ex is my age and she is going for guys in very early 20s. Currently with a 21 yo. She was mainly with him for comfort and to take of her. I just cant comprehend being with someone 10 years younger then me sexually.
Posted by GenethliacLover66Posted by dejaVwe
Because older men can easily take advantage of inexperienced young women.
Easy sex. Can end in disaster.
But then . . .
Young woman learns a few things about men.
She gains in experience, becomes wiser.
Life goes on.
Take advantage how? I don't mean to sound like an idiot but please explain more. It's relative to my situation.click to expand
What you know as a 19 yo young lady is not the same knowledge you will have 5, 10, or 15 years from now. Women typically go for older men because we do mature at a faster rate then men. We fully develop our frontal of our brain (wear reason lies) by our early 20s whereas men are mid to late 20s. But we till don't have the worldy knowledge and experience that men that are older then us have. Still at 19 or in your early 20s you are still developing life experiences outside of your home environment and developing your own identity. So you will be more easily taken influenced then when you are older, unless other variables are at play. But OP is pretty on point, you will learn more if you are open to it and become wiser.
Posted by GenethliacLover66Posted by dejaVwe
Because older men can easily take advantage of inexperienced young women.
Easy sex. Can end in disaster.
But then . . .
Young woman learns a few things about men.
She gains in experience, becomes wiser.
Life goes on.
Take advantage how? I don't mean to sound like an idiot but please explain more. It's relative to my situation.click to expand
Well, in my case, when a man of 35 went after me when I was 22, I thought he really liked me for me. Previously, I'd only had a few dates, then jumped into a 3.5 year relationship, so didn't know about how sleazy men can really be at that point in my life. And let me tell you, this guy was a sleaze, and was known for it, which I found out after our month-long relationship. The whole thing was not only an embarrassment to me, but also to the small company we both worked for, and I got fired because of this guy. (Not going into details.) Lesson learned.
Posted by GenethliacLover66Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by ShakenNotStirredMy Scorpio Wife's first husband is a Gemini. He could not keep his dick in his drawers - even brought their sons on a date with one of his sluts!
He's becoming a real Dirty Old Man - seduced a 19 YO girl last summer... less than half his age!
Bleeurrgh!
Why is this taboo? Why don't I get this—click to expand
Okay, so in describing your situation, GenethliacLover66, and saying that's it's relative to your situation -- I don't see that it is, in essence.
People look down on the older man going after the inexperienced young female for sex and fun. That's not what is happening in your situation.
Although, you know people, they're going to comment about the older woman/younger man thing should you let this get going. And they will probably think that you are the one who pursued him. Oh well, nothing you can do about what other people think. As I read on another forum about age gap relationships, OW/YM is not for the faint of heart.
Posted by xxoommmxxooPosted by TheLioness79Posted by xxoommmxxooPosted by Europesaggy
@ Moody and @ Lioness so would that also count for a younger virgo male and an older woman?
You are in your 40 s and he is 20's the sex will be good but he will hurt you.
XX- question, in your 40s as a woman and with a man who is in his 20s, I can't comprehend how the sex can be better. Men in their 20s are still just typically meeting their needs. Yeah I guess it can be exciting. For me I guess going into my prime as women enter into 30s I want quality. And an older man with experience and knowledge typically knows how to meet that quality. My Virgo friend and I discuss this at times because his ex is my age and she is going for guys in very early 20s. Currently with a 21 yo. She was mainly with him for comfort and to take of her. I just cant comprehend being with someone 10 years younger then me sexually.
I would say late 20 s or reaching 30 for a virgo guy,, not early 20's like 21, no. I worry for the 40 year old entertertaining the idea of dating the late 20 year old i heard most virgos Arent mature enough until mid to late 30's.. Although every situation is different the potential for heartbreak is high.click to expand
OK, this I can agree with. At least through my observations of Virgo men I have known, which I admit is very limited.
Thanks for your replies.
Yes I totally agree about the heartbreak stuff. I am 40, he is 27. First time ever I fall for a younger guy, something which I never ever held possible before. I've known him for 2 years now, feelings have started to grow since last september I would say, at least from my side. So it's not a sudden thing. But I'll be the first to see the awkwardness of the whole situation and it makes me think a lot and is not something I take lightly. He is rather un-experienced, but he is mature. More mature than a lot of other people I know from his age. And I do know a lot of younger people, almost all my friends are 25-30 years.
But the thing is, I just don't know how to tell my heart to stop all this. I've tried. I try to rationalize it, I write about it for myself to see every angle of it and analyze it to death. And I do try to force myself to stop all these feelings. But unfortunately to no success so far.
And we don't even date yet...but we do have a lot of contact on a daily basis, either texting, mailing, phoning or seeing each other.
Yes I totally agree about the heartbreak stuff. I am 40, he is 27. First time ever I fall for a younger guy, something which I never ever held possible before. I've known him for 2 years now, feelings have started to grow since last september I would say, at least from my side. So it's not a sudden thing. But I'll be the first to see the awkwardness of the whole situation and it makes me think a lot and is not something I take lightly. He is rather un-experienced, but he is mature. More mature than a lot of other people I know from his age. And I do know a lot of younger people, almost all my friends are 25-30 years.
But the thing is, I just don't know how to tell my heart to stop all this. I've tried. I try to rationalize it, I write about it for myself to see every angle of it and analyze it to death. And I do try to force myself to stop all these feelings. But unfortunately to no success so far.
And we don't even date yet...but we do have a lot of contact on a daily basis, either texting, mailing, phoning or seeing each other.
so, I took a small step and followed some of your advice. To cut the whole story short to the important point.. I told him in an email that I care a lot about him. But when you say this in my language (i'm not a native English speaker) it's the next closest thing to saying ' I love you'.. which I think is too strong an expression yet if you are not in a relationship with someone. He replied almost immediately saying thank you and adding that he cares for me as well... Which I think, coming from a virguy who has told me explicitly he is not very open about his emotions/feelings/expressing himself or whatever you wanna call it, is a least not a bad sign. Right?
Never thought I would feel as a 16 year old again... Kind of feel embarrassed...
Never thought I would feel as a 16 year old again... Kind of feel embarrassed...
VERGOS SHOULD PUT OFF DATEING UNTIL THEY ARE TO OLD TO HAVE CHILDERN.
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