I am a little upset and don't know what to feel right now
Me and my virgo guy made plans to see each other today around 2. We planned this like a week ago Anyway, he calls and says he's getting off of work today at 4 so he can't make it. Thats fine I understand
Then he says when he gets off of work he's going bowling
*sigh*
BOWLING! Are u f*ckin kidding me!
This is not the first time he put me on the back burner and I'm growing tired now
I been as patient as I can be with this man, I just need to know where I stand. Can call him cuz he's getting a new cell number.
I love the moments we share, he's so sweet, but I'm so ready to throw in the towel.
It is within my view that Virgo's and Gem's aren't compatible simply because of the independence factor within the Gemini, which is quite suitable for other signs .. just not Virgo's.
What I mean by this, is that Gemini's have this independent streak within them, which when they live by this (which they should), it leaves the Virgo feeling as though they are "too free".
I'm not faulting you in any way, just expressing how I view the manner in which I believe the typical Virgo would process the Gemini's sense of freedom.
Meaning, it's not uncommon for the Gem to express thier character in such a tone, as to mean, "Don't tell me what to do", and if a person attempts to tell them to do something they don't want .. they will defy.
This attitude is something that the Gemini makes perfectly clear to the people around them. That's not to say that they aren't adaptable, they so very much are .. it means that it's this impression they give to others around them.
And to a Virgo, this would likely be interpreted as, "The Gem is too obstinate to conform". The Virgo is looking for reliability and structure within a union .. they are looking for a person who would make decisions based off of putting "two heads together" rather than the One (Gemini).
A Pisces for example, would also appear as "non-conformists", but, the difference is that we look to our partners to discuss, rather than make the decision based solely on our own views.
And this works in many ways with the Gemini .. for instance, there is another one in here who often talks about her Virgo, referencing her decisions on how he's to be treated according to her standards, eventhough he isn't even her man. She can't see this, she can only see her own point of view in which she will make a decision in her life to keep focus on him .. this particular Virgo can make his feelings be known, but, they are overlooked, for the Gemini will only live by what they percieve and this percpetion is based solely within themselves, regardless of the other person.
Again, I'm not saying this is a bad quality .. my best friend is a Gemini .. I'm just saying that I can see where the Virgo wouldn't be attracted to this type of disposition. Virgo's want a person who would more inclined to want to relate issues "with" them, rather than for them, or about them.
An Aries, or Leo, or Scorpio .. would like a person to make decisions "for" them, or give off an attitude that the aim is for their benefit, without actually working "with" them.
An example would be, there's a Gem female in here who has said such things as, "I've tried to get her to do ...."
That is attempting to do "for" a person, without the other persons desire to participate.
And Virgo's don't work this way .. I'm not saying that's a bad way to be. It's just not something a Virgo would look for.
Starfish's advice is pretty right on. My Gem's pretty good at communicating with me in the way Star spoke of when something's up. I respect it a lot.
Let me throw a side question your way. I've read elsewhere that Gem's can easily change their plans at a moments notice to the point of just down right being flakey. (Trying to find a link for it. I'll try to post it)
Have you found yourself in the same situation but with your V-Guy on the receiving end?
To be honest, yes Virgohero I have but not with him
there were times though, that I'll drop plans at the last minute, plenty of times
But the little time that we do get to see each other I make sure that I set aside a day for him, and sometimes it just seems like he's squeezing me into his tight schedule like a quick errand or somethin
I understand he has alot on his plate right now so i feel like by saying something i would just be adding more to it.
I really do want to tell him this, but i kinda feel like that would be coming on too strong or somethin
OneSexyGem, Virgos appreciate honest, stable and caring people. Even if you are a Gemini and you don't want to sacrifice your freedom, saying it should not be any problem. If you are predictable, if your minds meet, if you two can talk about anything without having to fill in blanks the relationship will be fine.
Be honest to him, if something bothers you. Try to understand: 1. If this is his natural reaction (something that will most likely repeat and will not change easily), 2. If this is triggered by something other than you (he's not doing it on purpose), 3. If you are kind of the person who can tolerate similar behavior in the long run.
Are you still bothered? Then think twice, he may not be the right guy for you.
We, Gems are very impatient and curious by nature. We would die to know, and know it now! When we get the info, we start thinking, and producing all possibilities and alternatives, which makes things even more complicated, because we quickly get lost in those alternatives. We can't decide anything, then we become impatient, and finally make up our mind and choose something, anuything based on our gut feelings.
Virgo mind works differently. The thing which worked best for me was: collect the info yourself and hand to them to make the decision.
"for instance, there is another one in here who often talks about her Virgo, referencing her decisions on how he's to be treated according to her standards, eventhough he isn't even her man. She can't see this, she can only see her own point of view in which she will make a decision in her life to keep focus on him"
L4ever is right on. Just be straight about it with him. I mean don't go kicking down his door screaming that you have something he has to deal with it. Just be calm and get it off your chest. At that point, the ball's in his court to deal with it. If he's an ass about it, then it gives you some insight on him.
Next time you want him to do something with you...tell him you may have plans to run out with the girls. He won't be bale to resist the challenge to see if he means more to you than your GF's. He'll be out of work and at your side with the remote in his hands. guaranteed.
I agree that honesty can be a good thing.. mostly because a Virgo is going to take some time to analyze what you really mean when you say something. Words are said for a reason, and it's rare for a Virgo to ignore the hidden meaning in what words were used, tone of voice, time of day, what he was doing just prior to the utterance, past evaluations made of the speech of said speaker, etc., but if he senses that you mean what you literally say, it makes things nice and easy.
Virgos gather data, same as Gemini, but with a difference. I was reading recently about something that sort of fits this difference. I was looking up Roman numerals. Ever try and do math with them? Possible, but not easy. That's becuase what they needed numbers for was quite different from the rest of the math world. Romans went all in for what is called Applied Math. If it doesn't help build something, or have something to do with accounting, then it's not for us. Virgos can relate similarly. Theories are nice, but ultimately, how does it help me understand the paradigm of (insert real world function here)?
VERY IMPORTANT: Your giving him info to help him understand you is good, but just letting him make a bunch of decisions is NOT good at all. Virgos may like to imagine running the world, but give them the throne and they'll pick someone else to sit on it, even when they're the best person for the job.
Another spin on Virgo data assimilation is like watching election results on CNN with 3 percent of the districts reporting. A lot of talking is going on, but you know it's not going to mean much until you get a whole lot more information. But what if you never got that much? It would be constant reevaluation ad nauseum. That's Virgo mentality. No amount of info is enough to clap your hands together, say "glad that's done", and walk away. Maybe enough to begin heading in a given direction, but just not enough to stop all further thought on the subject. It can be frustrating for others to realize after the group is already on the yellow brick road to Oz that the Virgo is still running through things to see if another way is "better", but that's a Virgo for ya.
I don't get it. He should have at least invited you. But to break a date with you like that... I dunno. I don't understand this Virgo. Sorry, I have no advice to give. : (
My take on Gem + Vir is similar to P-Angel's, but different enough to mention: I would read a Gem as Independent, and needing her time & space to do her stuff, and early in the relationship, I wouldn't assume she'd be free at the drop of a hat to change her plans to suit a change in mine...
However, given the situation you described, I would've at least invited you to go bowling - given you the option to fit Me into your schedule. This VG of yours sounds like a putz. Or, he's so anal retentive about his plans that he can't modify them and invite you -- either way, it's not a good personality trait!
Most Virgs plan at least some part of their day / week, and we can get fussy if our plans get disrupted -- my Scorp teases me about it all the time. Weekend mornings she'll ask, "OK Farmer Dy, what chores you got lined up??" If I don't get at least a few of the tings done that I've planned, I'm not gonna be a happy camper!
Maybe this applies to your VG, but I really think he's being a selfish twit...
Me and my virgo guy made plans to see each other today around 2. We planned this like a week ago
Anyway, he calls and says he's getting off of work today at 4 so he can't make it. Thats fine I understand
Then he says when he gets off of work he's going bowling
*sigh*
BOWLING! Are u f*ckin kidding me!
This is not the first time he put me on the back burner and I'm growing tired now
I been as patient as I can be with this man, I just need to know where I stand. Can call him cuz he's getting a new cell number.
I love the moments we share, he's so sweet, but I'm so ready to throw in the towel.
Virgo's got any advice?