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Wow, are Virgo guys really that different from the girls—

Don't worry about the laughing love4ever.
I guess some got the "dud" Virgos who don't appreciate thoughtful, romantic gifts.

Then again, it might just be an "occupational hazard" of being far into astrology:
stereotyping people based on their Sun sign and not getting to know or treating them like the whole *person* they are.

I'm glad you both liked the flowers. 🙂
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Hahah this may be a sign of the apocalypse to some of you but I've had a gal send me flowers before and I was pretty stoked about it.

Granted...after the initial surprise and acknowledgement of the gift wore off, I found myself saying "uhh...what do I do with them now?". I think I ended up throwing them in some bucket like thing, splashed some water on them, and went back to work.

BUT...She totally got style points from me for keeping it simple(Huge for me) yet breaking the mold of the stereotypical chic gift.

I think you did good ma'am.




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He is my ex-coworker. We are both in different companies now. So that problem went away.

Before I left, I had a chance to tell him about my feelings, in a very detailed way. It was awkward. He did not communicate with me for a long time, no calls, nothing. Pretty Virgoish! In the meantime I kept myself busy with my own life. I emailed him a few times though making sure that he knows I am still alive and around if he needs anything. And one day, he responded. He was thinking about me but he was caught up in a turmoil of events in his workplace and his family. Then, this vacation came up. And now his move. So we still have not talk about it.
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love4ever .. the horse has been dead for months and months and now .. time to bury it.

To keep sending gifts, emails .. you just make yourself look desperate and pretty silly.

Virgo's don't work this way .. if they feel for a person, you would know it straight away. When the male Virgo is attracted to a person, he pursues ..

.. he pursues

.. he pursues

.. he pursues


Love4ever .. this man that you keep calling "my" Virgo, is doing everything he can to stay away from you, without hurting your feelings. I'm clueless as to why you are so clueless.

You're a Gemini, aren't you?

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Sorry but I do not agree. He is "my" Virgo and the horse is very much alive. I told you about our circumstances before. We have been good friends for a long time but there was a clear, growing yet unspoken attraction between us. It is true that I was eager to put it all off my chest and he was scared. It is normal. But I was honest and at the end, he appreciated that. I am not expecting him to turn into Rudolph Valentino in one day. He's always taken gradual steps and he's now doing the same. We never had any fights, he was always respectful and responsive to me. The period we did not communicate: I have not called ot texted him even he had asked for it the last time we spoke. I thought I should have given him some time alone. I emailed him just twice and very briefly, once to let him know that I have settled down and was doing fine and the second was a forwarded news. No questions, no hints, no hidden messages, nothing to pressure him. Now that he is pretty open and not negative about anything, why should I call it "dead"?
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Because it is on his side .. you just refuse to believe this because you don't want it to be so.

I realize that I've pissed you off before with my blunt directness and I suppose it will happen again, now .. but, I'm the only one trying to tell you the truth.

Since last November, nearly a year, you've been posting about how you have been chasing him, and he isn't responding in a fashion which is an indicator that he has any attraction to you .. but, you refuse to acknowledge this because you care about him and want him to have these same feelings back.

What we want and what actually is, in reality .. sometimes is different and this has to be faced to live in reality.

Just a couple months ago, you post something about accepting a position with another company and when you told him, you said that he offered words to you except NOT how he really feels. What you meant by that was that he didn't tell you that he feels for you, and to you this meant he was withholding his feelings.

Love4ever .. he wasn't withholding his feelings for you, but, this is what you believe. You think he has this hidden desire and love for you that he's just afraid to say, and he didn't say it about the job transfer because he's some kind of scard little puppy .. and I keep telling you, for months ..

Virgo's do NOT work this way .. you have deluded yourself into believing that he has these feelings for you and he doesn't.

If this Virgo has feelings for you .. he WILL TELL YOU.

Virgo's SAY WHAT THEY MEAN AND THEY MEAN WHAT THEY SAY .. how else am I going to get you to comprehend this? You think I'm being mean to you and you think I have been mean all along .. when in reality, I'm trying to get you to understand the truth.

You believe that now that you've told him how you felt about him, that now your position is to sit back and await like his loyal woman, while he does his Virgo thing and has no communication with you, when the truth is .. this has been going on for a year and he has all along chosen not to speak to you about his feelings for you because ..

HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY .. in the way you want it to be so. Yet, you don't believe .. your horse is still alive. It's all in your head.


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I'm telling you .. I know Virgo's like I know my own name, Love4ever .. and I don't know how to get through to you with this. I've tried and tried and tried and you just ignore me in Gemini fashion and continue to let yourself be deluded ..


The Virgo SPEAKS TRUTHFULLY about how he feels .. if the male Virgo is feeling you .. HE WILL SAY SO .. if he is ignoring you when you speak of your feelings for him .. then it means he isn't feeling you.

What has to be said to get you to comprehend this?

The reason why this man has NOT been forthcoming with his feelings of love for you is because he does not feel it.

Do yourself a favor and actually listen to people in here about Virgo's .. actually READ the thread by Jada where she said her Virgo followed her, grabbed her passionately and kissed her, texts her.

Love4ever .. my Virgo phones me 4 or 5 times a day, just to hear my voice ..

WHEN A VIRGO IS ATTRACTED TO YOU AND HAS FEELINGS FOR YOU .. HE WILL PURSUE YOU .. not ignore you.

What else can I say? It's been almost a year and I keep trying to tell you this .. you just keep ignoring my words, just as you keep ignoring the fact that this man is NOT feeling you.

I will say again in Caps .. WHEN A VIRGO IS INTO A PERSON, THEY PURSUE, THEY PURSUE, THEY PURSUE, THEY PURSUE ..
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Yes, I read Jada79's posts, here's what she says: "For a couple of months he wouldn't talk to me, not even hello." He did that apparently because she called their relationship off. She said they were on and off for more than 5 years. And at times, he would ignore her for weeks or months, like he did this time.

Virgos pursue, but they can ignore you too, when they are hurt. I do not want to give any more specifics, but he was already upset about my decision about taking that offer and I waited until the last moment to confess. How would you feel if someone told you he was crazy in love with you but had to leave, because he believed it would be the right thing to do? Of course he was hurt. I can understand him. He needed time.

Jada79 also said that after retreating for three months, he started calling her to hang out just as "friends". Then the kiss came.

I do not expect a kiss very soon because we do not have a passionate, rollercoaster history of 5 years like them. We will act like "friends" for a while longer until we feel ready to talk about the stuff. But at least I know that he had been thinking about me and he is glad that I kept contact with him.
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OMG ..

You're not understanding the difference .. you NEVER had this Virgo.

"Virgos pursue, but they can ignore you too, when they are hurt."

"I waited until the last moment to confess. How would you feel if someone told you he was crazy in love with you but had to leave"

OMG, love4ever .. actually view this for what it really means, and not what you want it to mean, please .. for your own heart's sake.

You believe that he is ignoring you NOW because he is hurt because you made a move, just after telling him that you are crazy about him, while completely unaware the fact that he has always ignored your advances.

Think about what this means .. for real ..

You are now a distance away from each other due to work situations .. you have contacted him twice ..

First to tell him that you are settled him .. no response from him, just ignorance. Second to tell him that you are still alive and there if he needs anything, you're ready to serve him .. no response from him, just ignorance. Then he does respond to tell you he's busy, no time for you.

There hasn't been time for you, for a year .. yet, you will send him gifts.

Virgo's do NOT ignore the woman he loves Love4ever .. you can lie to yourself from now until dooms day, but, that doesn't negate the truth.

You refuse to believe me and there's nothing I can say make you believe me .. Virgo's do NOT ignore the woman they love. On The Contrary, they are the complete opposite of ignorance ..

they serve, they pamper, they provide, they give undivided attention

How to get you to comprehend this, is beyond me. You have yourself believing that he is just being a normal Virgo and doing his push and pull thing .. when the reality is .. you NEVER had him .. you're still trying to pursue a man by texting him and giving him gifts who has finally contacted you to tell you he's busy now.

I've read everything you said about your move .. he wasn't upset about your move .. on the contrary .. you were upset because he wasn't forthcoming about his intimate and emotional feelings about you.

"We will act like "friends" for a while longer until we feel ready to talk about the stuff. But at least I know that he had been thinking about me and he is glad that I kept contact with him."

Love4ever .. Virgo's don't "act" .. there has never been a "we" with him and his gladness of you continuing to contact him was with the response of .. I'm busy.

My God ..
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"If it leads to something nice, great for us. If not, it is okay, I know that we will remain friends at least."


Above confirms what I said .. he is not YOUR Virgo, and never has been, yet, you believe the two of you are a "we".

You're just friends, love4ever .. you're texting him, sending him gifts .. waiting for a dead horse.

And when he responds to tell you he's busy with his life and that's why he isn't including you in it .. you believe he is glad to hear from you.

OMG ..
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Ok, let's say that you are right. How would you explain him secretly asking people about me and trying to learn what I am doing, while he was ignoring me?

How can you be so self assured? Your say you do not want to hurt but your negativeness about just everything does hurt. I can not give you every detail, but he has done enough things to make me believe he loved me even if he as not said it.
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"I do not expect a kiss very soon"


It's been a year ... he hasn't even kissed you.


And you continue to send him texts and gifts .. **sighs**


He's probably wondering what's wrong with you .. he's been side-stepping your advances, doing his best to ignore you and you're still desperately seeking his attention ..

A Virgo wouldn't process this in a good way .. he's going to think that you think so lowly of yourself that you can't get any better.

I'm telling you love4ever .. he's not thinking about you in an endearing way, for is he was enamoured, you'd know it. He's likely thinking your mentally challenged for not being able to get the hint.
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Because ..

THE VIRGO SAYS WHAT HE MEANS AND MEANS WHAT HE SAYS ..

How much clearer does that have to be?

"he has done enough things to make me believe he loved me even if he as not said it."


Like what for example? Disregard your texts to finally reply saying he's busy with his life right now?

Of course the truth hurts when you refuse to believe it .. if a person wants to believe in an illusion, then the truth would seem negative because it shatters the dream.

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Wow! I had no idea all of this was going on. 😢

As much as I hate to do it, I have to agree with P-Angel on this one.

Not just on a "Virgo" thing, but as a "man/woman" thing.

If a guy has been knowing you're into him for over a year, you've initiated contact, given him gifts, and told him you have deep feelings for him and all he does is give you reasons why he "can't" be involved with you - he isn't into you.

Even if there *were* some sort of attraction between you - guys like to be the ones doing the chasing. 😉

He already knows you're open and willing to share things with him, so that isn't holding him back. At this point, I(personally) would pull back. Way back. If he misses you and wants more with you *HE'LL* contact you. *HE'LL* be the one asking you out, giving you gifts, and telling you about his feelings.

I think he's been a real gentleman because a lot of guys would have taken advantage of your interest for a lay. I had one guy friend who, while he wasn't normally like that, eventually DID end up screwing a mutual friend because she kept throwing herself at him. He figured that's what she wanted so he indulged her. Then she was hurt and angry at him for doing it.

Last time I checked, you can't really win by doing so much for a guy. Sure he'll be flattered, but if he's *INTO YOU TOO* he'll respond in kind and it won't take a year to do it.

You're obviously a thoughtful, generous woman who deserves for her affections and gifts to be appreciated and RECIPROCATED. 🙂
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Love4ever .. I'm sorry if my words hurt you, however, I'm going to call the shots as I see them with no concern about feelings.

It is these feelings that have caused you to pull the wool over your eyes, so it is these feelings that need to be put in check.

You have yourself believing something that isn't REAL and it comes from you wanting him to want you.

If a person "wants" to be with another .. they are.

That is reality.


"I emailed him just twice and very briefly .. No questions, no hints, no hidden messages, nothing to pressure him."

I have to ask this question .. when you say he finally contacted you to tell you he was busy with work and such, was this after you sent him the gift of flowers? It must be, since you said he liked the flowers and that you've only heard from him once.

Think about that ....... he was being polite and contacted you after receiving a gift, as is curteous. So, answer honestly .. was the real reason why you sent the flowers was because you couldn't get him to respond to you of his own volition?
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"I emailed him just twice and very briefly, once to let him know that I have settled down and was doing fine and the second was a forwarded news."

What do you mean by settled down?

Were you upset about something, and so you were contacting him to tell him that you were fine now and no longer upset?

If this is the case .. don't you find it odd that this man who is suppose to love you even if he hasn't said it to you, doesn't even contact you to find out if you're ok when he knows you're upset?

You have to contact him to tell him and even then, he doesn't respond, not until you send him a gift.

Or, perhaps you didn't mean settle down and fine .. what does that mean, then?
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leo/virgo75,

We knew each other for less than two years but he did not know I was in love with him although we were attracted to each other and had just started seeing each other casually. I confessed him on my last day at the office. Then I did not contacted him for two months. I thought he was scared and he needed time. Then I emailed him but it was a very brief and distant message. I was telling him that "I was not sure if I should have contacted him or not". He did not responded but I learned later that he was secretly asking people about me. So I emailed him a second time with some news. And some time later, he responded, telling he had been thinking about me.

Oh and I did not shower him with presents. Those poor flowers was a first. I did not attach any romantic messages to them, just a card saying "Wish you the best".
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"When I wrote him "I settled down", I meant I started my new job and new life and I was fine. I also told him that "I was not sure/comfortable about emailing him but did not want to be a stranger either"."


Here's an example, some food for thought as to how a Virgo treats the woman he loves (whether it's voiced, or not):

I'm going to the beach to visit our son .. the night before: the Virgo fills the car up full of gas, checks the tires, checks the oil and transmission fluid, empties the trash can, makes sure my music CD's are in that particular vehicle, washes the windshield, puts a pillow and my favorite blankie in the back seat, makes sure cell is charged, etc.

Another way a Virgo treats the woman he loves (voiced, or not):

Not feeling well, having PMS grumpiness and pains: the Virgo fixes supper then shuffles his woman off to bed with a smile, fluffs the pillows, brings in reading material and a heating pad, does the dishes, sweeps the floor, feeds the pets, checks in on her every hour or so to see if she needs anything, jumps on the phone within moments of it ringing so not to disturb her, tapes her shows she's missing, brings in hot tea, throws a load of laundry in the washer, etc.


If this Virgo loved you, not only would he want to know that you got settled in ok, he would have moved you in himself .. I guarantee it.


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I don't know Dy. You speak about a typical, a stereotypical Virgo in a relatively smooth relationship. In our case, there are other things to consider. As much as I can see what you mean, I can not say "I'm giving up". Not that I am desperate. Not that I can't live without him. It just does not add up.

He was very attentive to me. Loving, caring and serving. It was not in my head, people were noticing and telling me he definitely had something for me. But, we have our own circumstances. He is either scared or still not fully convinced that this can actually work. So, I don't know. I'll wait, keep a low profile, see what happens and let you know.