are virgos imposible to break up with? do youever?

ive been seeing thsi virgo girl for last 6 months but we dont spend a lot of time together since my job takes me away from home for 2 weeks at a time, so most of our comunication is over the phone
last 2 months its gotten so boring that all we do is get into a discusion about us and its agrivating and frustrating because she does not undferstand my freedom loving nature and i dont understand her homebody personality and a lot of what we say get missunderstood and it ends up in a huge fight
we almost called it of few times before but always decided to give it another try but it never gets better, its fine when im home but as soon as i live for work 3 days later it stars all over. when i try to talk about regular daily shit she just nods and gives me short answers and doesnt really put alot into a conversoation so i get frustrated and angry and confront her abou tit whcih leads to an argument

so i decided to break it off and as soon as i start doing it she drops the love bomb on me tellingme that she was affraid to tell me that she loves me thats why she was like that and was hoping i wouls say it ifrst when all this arguments were pushing me away and it was having an adverse effect
i told her that i dont have feelings fo rher like i used to and that i donthink ill ever love her like she says that she does, it just ended for me....but she keeps begging for second chance and says she will change and she will be a 100% different now but thats not what i wont, i dont ever wont anyone to change who they are just to be with me thats just crazy
she says that she can make my feeling comeback and that if i give her time I WLLL LOVE HER! OMG she is nuts!
are all virgos like that? not willing to accpett the fact that its over? maybe its us aries who turn off this feelings like a switch becaues after all this i dont even want to have sex with her it needs to end and i have to break it to her the way she get its because right now she is i denial and thisng i will get over it and i WONT DO IT
please help me

i'm just wondering .. what kind of help do you need .. if it's over?

she still thinks that im just mad and that i will get over it , i did promise her that i wlll see her when i get back in town but all im going to do is tell her in person that we need to move on..i just know that she is going to beg, and cry cry cry cry cry and try to guilt me into satying, i dont like to hurt anyones feelings but i cant stay to make it better too because it will make me miserable and mostlikely i will resent her for that, so i need help how can i brake it to her and what can i accept out of her how is she going to be handling this?
in my opinion she was out on a mission to get a husband and kids and i dont want either one of it......2 years agao her finance walked out on her just before the wedding .everything ws already set up.....hmmmmmm i wonder why?
something is off with her

do virog girls put always put them selves last and aim to pelase everyone at all cost? even if it is their own happines?

if this "so-called relationship" doesn't matter to you .. what are you trying to figure out right now? .. why are you making it so hard for yourself .. and for your virgo girl? .. by making life just so complicated? ..

take it or leave it .. and LIVE with it ..

you obviously don't love her .. now what?

i just want her to take it like an adult, she is very smart, smarter than me and yet she does not hear what im telling her,
she doesnt think its over even though i didnt call her in 2 days..it makes me feel really bad......i just know if i call her now she will think there still is a chance but at the same time i dont want her to be stressing out over this to no end but she will no matter what......she does not want to let go.......she is making this harder than it has to be 😢
i never had that much difficulties breaking up with a woman, once you tell them you dont have ffeelings for them and you dont love them they pretty much leave on their own, but not this one, ahhhh

2 days of not calling her? and you felt bad? .. really? if you think she's making things harder than it has to be .. what do you think are you doing yourself? .. what are you trying to figure out? .. what for?

let's put it this way .. why don't you try to stop pretending that you care for her .. when you obviously don't .. you care about yourself ..

do yourself a favor .. do her a favor .. leave her alone ..

she will move on .. trust me ..

Oh, then I'll open it back up. I thought it would offend someone so I hid it.

I'll bring it back.

PrringLeo .. Virgo's are better suited with either Scorpio's or Leo's. Those two signs need what Virgo's have to offer.

Everybody isn't perfect for everybody .. but, everybody is perfect for somebody.

From my perspective .. Aries and Virgos are NOT compatible.

"she does not hear what im telling her"


And she never will .. just walk away knowing in your heart that you do care about her feelings and that you wanted her to come to terms with it, so you won't create any bad karma for yourself.

I truly know exactly how you feel. It's very disheartening.

Because I care about vgurl, she's a special lady and I don't want her upset by what I posted.

As for Leo's .. I was thinking along the lines of Virgo being the follower .. they have to be led and since Leo likes to be in charge, I figured these two would be a good hook-up.

I guarantee you .. Virgo's and Pisces are NOT a good match. We make awesome friends, but, no further than that. The Fish is too deeply driven emotionally for the non-emotional Virgo .. our feelings will be numbed out over time .. just not a good situation. When the Pisces HAS to stop dreaming, it's time to die.

Aries are looking for soulful connections .. they're better suited with somebody who responds from their spirit.

As for Leo's, such as yourself .. the best union I've ever seen was with a male Lion and female Bull.

"what do you think of cancers and virgos?"


There's a couple I know of this combo and they are indeed off and on.

He (Virgo) is completely sucked in to her being up his butt, which a Cancer will indeed do. The whole world revolves around the Cancer's heart and she'll make sure everybody gets manipulated into making her Virgo man a god. His ego is the size of Texas and loves feeling above another person, who doesn't defy this position .. this is his side of on.

However, he also believes in being real, and at times this same quality gets under his skin because he believes she isn't living in reality. He's human, therefore not perfect .. this is his side of off.

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Her (Cancer) loves his financial stability .. he works his ass off and brings in more money than she could possibly hide. She's sitting on a small fortune (unbeknownst to him), but, has him believing they have excessive bills and bordering destitution. This prompts him to work harder and longer .. this is her side of on.

When he has his moments of feeling played by her (which he is) and when he feels suffocated by her being in his ass (which she is), he pulls away and she is left feeling abused. From her eyes, he should be thankful and appreciative that he has such a loving partner who is only doing this because he deserves a good woman. Her feelings get severly bruised because she believes her feelings get victimized .. this is her side of off.

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Other than those problems .. these two people seem to be pretty content. They've been together for a while, and have children together.

class-act-aries: "do virgo girls put always put themselves last and aim to please everyone at all cost? even if it is their own happiness?"

um, not this one! i've got an aries moon, and women are often (not always though) said to exhibit more of their moon characteristics.

this v-chick sounds like she doesn't have much self-worth in herself (so how can anybody else find any worth in her?), and trying to land a husband for the wrong reasons will only create resentment on both parties in the end, as you mentioned.

astrologically speaking here since this is an astro board, according to her sun (virgo), try to reason with her. tell her what you want and don't want, be an aries, you are one afterall aren't you? you said you don't want to get married or have kids and that you value your freedom and independence, so tell her that. now for style on how to deliver the message, you should look to her moon and if you know her birthtime, consider the ascendant. these will show you how she will most likely react to the news. and make sure she's listening.

i'll give you an example. i'm a virgo sun, so use logic and reason with me. my aries moon will demand that you do it quickly and clearly so as not to waste my time, just get to the point. and tact is highly recommended here, because of the aries temper. scorpio ascendant requires for you to choose your words deliberately and honestly. and if carried out correctly, i'll let go without any ill-feelings towards you. if executed poorly, i'll still let go of you...but probably with a few choice words before i part to leave a mark. i've got so many of my planets touching uranus that i'll probably just let go without knowing it, lol. but anyway, this is just me, i love my independence way too much. ok, i'm digressing here.

i don't know anything about this virgo chick, so i'm just going about this astrologically. only you know her the most here, and if you're clueless as to how she might react, then i daresay that the two of you never really got to know each other.

best of luck to you.

let me add that mercury also counts for something here as it also lends to the way how we communicate and think.

here are HERS
Sun Virgo
Moon Gemini
Mercury Virgo
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Leo
Saturn Virgo
Uranus Scorpio
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra

and mine ARE

Sun Aries
Moon Scorpio
Mercury Taurus
Venus Aries
Mars Pisces
Jupiter Gemini
Saturn Leo
Uranus Scorpio
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra

yes she does have a very low self estime and and has no independence whats so ever, she is almost 29 and she spends more time at her moms than at her own place.
she is very educated probably more than i ever will be in my life and yet she puts her self down like that and begs and makes statements like i can make you love me...agghhh
but reflecting back there were many times when we would talked about something that we would want to do in near future and she would add "if we still together of course" and she did that often, that was little discouraging at best..and little things like that
i wont even get into the bedroom situation but thats not what im used to and i dont want to get used to it

vgurl
these are exactly the same comments that would male me withdraw form her like
"that i just care about my self" and stuff like that yeah sure ....can you say guilt trip—?
yes i do look out for my happiness but at the same time hurting her is the last thing i ever wanted to do ...it does not give me a superior feeling or anything like that at all
in fact it does make me feel little guilty but does not mean im going to change my mind and stick with her because she is begging....c'mon have some self respect after all we only know each other for 6 months

P-A
could you send me your comment that you hid in a message please?
it was very interesting
thanks

I have to say something here. my best friend (v-girl) is married to an aries, but it's the other way around - she is stronger. Virgo women are wonderful people and if I were you CAA I wouldn't worry that much, they pull it together better than you expect. She just needs some time like everybody else.

**UNappreciated

her moon's in gemini and mercury is in virgo, all mercurial influences. venus is in scorpio which is in it's fall and can be quite obsessive and possessive, yet mars is dignified in scorpio, again, obsessive and possessive.

my advice is to just to be honest and try to reason with her. the moon in gemini is at odds with her sun, mercury, venus and mars. cater to her virgo and scorpio influences because the moon might take a back seat in her planetary arrangements since scorpio and virgo play better with each other, unless it sits on an angle in her chart.

i like prringLeo's advice, don't drag it out cause you're only wasting time here.

i know, just few minutes ago she send me a txt msg " just thinking of you" after not talking for over 2 days
and what am i supposed to say to that?
i dont want to give her an a-hole answer and i dont want to be firm with her over the txt msg , i already did tell her sunday i want out and promised her to see her when i get back into town but that might not be till this weekend or possibly even next weekend...its dragging out and it might put ideas in her head but i dont wont to be the guy who just breaks up over txt or phone
so i answered her
"same here bu ti have many thoughts on my mind right now"
and i added that im out of country in canada which I am so she wont be tempted to call my cellphone ..i know its not the best thing of me to do but i dont know how to handle it right now specially being away from home

"Because I care about vgurl, she's a special lady and I don't want her upset by what I posted."

hi p-angel 🙂 .. honestly speaking i wouldn't mind what ever is it that you have to say about virgos (including women) .. i went passed that stage of chasing men and leaving a little for myself .. especially if men who can be so disrespectful and insensitive ..

you know what, class-act-aries .. i can't see the point why you've been trying so damn hard to figure your woman out .. why she act like that .. why she think like that .. why she is like that .. it's over isn't it? .. so what's bothering you? .. 'coz she's hurting? 'coz she can't stand on her own without you? .. 'coz she's begging you to come back to her? .. 'coz you can't dump her and just give her fals hopes that there's gonna be "us" in the end? .. 'coz she's so stubborn to know that it's over? .. what the heck ..

stop trying to pretend this is going somewhere .. because you know that it won't get anywhere .. 'coz that's just what you wanted to .. ever heard of cause and effect? .. jeez

why don't you try to end this BS just the way it is because you obviously don't even want a relationship with this woman .. so why are you wasting your time over this non-sense?entitlement?

especially if men who can be so disrespectful and insensitive ..

*especially with men who can be so disrespectful and insensitive ..

ok vgurl
you see, you are being just like my ex and giving me a guilt trip and you not understanding what imasking

its not jsut abot me , im not a heartless selfsh jerk like you think that i am
i just want to figure out what makes her be like she is and not let go?? is that too much/
no flase hopes here but what you want me to do? tell her to get lost over the phone?
i wont do that
you virgos analyze evertyhihg to no end and back thats why it can be so difficult at times
when i split up last year with my sagit exof 5 years it was over in 1 day , when u know its over its over and YOU have to let go but she is holding on safter 6months for her dear life
thats what i dont get

>>>he expected me to know what he was thinking and feeling, as if I should know him so well words don't need to be exchanged but he likes to call it "his actions speak better then his words".As if I am suppost to survey everything he did and analyze his every move?

This is sooooo funny!!!

It's what I've gone through(STILL going through), except in reverse.
I've been off and on with an ARIES guy forEVER!(Like 15 years!) He wants to be with me, but doesn't know what to do with me once he's with me.

I don't have the patience for nonsense so I try to cut him loose.
BUT HE WON'T GO AWAY!!!!
I've broke things off about a million times but he's still hanging on.

Yes, I care about him and love him to death, but I'm either with someone or I'm not. Like DearDiary -it's too easy for me to forgive the nonsense and let him back in again because I love him but it keeps ending up the same way. I have no interest in hanging on and being friends, friends with benefits, or trying to see what *might* happen. If it's going to happen, it will happen. If not - cool. I'm done and moving on.

Another role reversal - he also expects me to read his mind and know his intention without him saying anything. I'm supposed to read his actions even though his actions don't match his words. Heck, his WORDS don't even match his words. lol

It's crazy. Just letting you guys know it's not just a Virgo thing. I guess Aries can do the same darn thing. 😉

hmm you got yor self a weird aries, lol maybe ha has a virgo moon?

Nope.
Sag Moon.
Aries Venus.

Go figure. 😛

But I do have an Aries moon. Which is probably why when I'm done, I'm just done and don't want to be bothered.

It appears that most people have this thing that they do and perhaps most don't even realize it .. but, it's most people, no matter the sun sign ..

.. they want to be the breaker-upper. If someone tries to break up, then that just can't happen. A person will do whatever it takes to get back, or stay together, even if they don't want to.

.. then, that person who fought to stay together breaks up.

Just an ego thing .. it's not that you really want the other person, you just don't want to be rejected, to feel unwanted.


Why do people do that? Do we not care about sincere feelings? We care more about our pride and ego's being stroked than real, true feelings?

^^^ I don't know how to quote, but I have to agree that it happens often where someone wants to get (back) together just to be "the breaker-upper." Sigh. It's a really sad situation when someone does that. I believe when people do that, they're just not that evolved to even be *able* to think about another person's feelings. They're still an emotional toddler who can only see that you don't want to play with them, so they don't want to play with you either. So there - nyah! 😛

I don't know if that's the situation that's happening with Class Act or myself.

At least I know with myself whenever we've gotten back together the ARIES guy NEVER breaks off with me. EVER! He's never said he's done, doesn't want to be with me or talk to me, nothing like that. He wants me with him and in his life but, truthfully, I don't think he's comfortable with how close we are. I think he's more comfortable with superficial situations and as deep as things are with us, he can't let go, but can't *stay* too close either.... I don't like being the "breaker-upper" but I always feel like a long drawn out situation that isn't working will lead to a bigger heartbreak for everyone involved than if you just acknowledge that things aren't working and make a clean break. Apparently, my ARIES guy doesn't agree.

"I believe when people do that, they're just not that evolved to even be *able* to think about another person's feelings. They're still an emotional toddler who can only see that you don't want to play with them, so they don't want to play with you either."


Perhaps, this is the case. It's really sad to think that most people are so insecure about their self-esteem and their worth, that they have to fight to keep somebody with the intention of *winning* someones love, like it's a game.

Is that really satisfying? To have to live with the fact that the other person doesn't really want you and love you for you, rather, they are there because a score was kept and they lost.

It really bothers me that people do that. I wasn't meaning anyone on this thread when I mentioned this .. the situations discussed just made me think of people who do this.

Sorry if anyone took that the wrong way 🙂

No apologies P-Angel. 🙂
I was just trying to connect what you were saying to the situation Class Act was sharing as well as my own. I didn't take it personal though.

Starfish - I'm sorry if you know what I'm talking about cuz it sucks. 😢

^^^ Yup. I'll see your ***big sigh*** and raise you a "pfft."

It's also annoying as heck to be "the one" who has to initiate some sort of direction at all because the person you're dealing with would rather chase their own tail than look at the situation and either move forward or let go.

What's even worse is when they can't even *try* something different. They just HAVE TO stay in the same wishy washy, back and forth don't know what they want situation FOREVER! Ugh. 😢

I know exactly what you're going through l/v75 .. I have one myself who won't let go. Been trying for a while to make an end, but, he hangs on like gum stuck to the bottom of the shoe.

It's a fear, I think. I'm not sure.

Even practicing abstinence doesn't work .. I thought for sure he'd bail, rather than suffer "The Blues". If you figure out how to get your man to give it up, already, please let me know.

That's tough. I imagine it's even tougher when it's the confines of marriage.

You're probably right about it being some kind of fear. Fear of change of any sort.

They're too scared to *do* what needs to be done to make the relationship work, but also too scared to let go.

If I figure it out I'll let the whole world know, but you'll be first. 😉

"Tell him you are going out with another man this weekend."

The Aries guy I've been with has stuck around even when I was with other people. I told him about it and tried to be graphic so it would bother him(it would bother the heck out of me if someone I wanted to be with was telling me about their current flame) but HE DIDN'T CARE!!! As a matter of fact, when I accidentally let a complaint slip out he tried to play relationship counselor with me! When things didn't work out with the other guy he was right back to trying to be with me again. He said he was heartbroken knowing that I might end up marrying someone else, but he wasn't going to interfere.

Meanwhile, even when he and I are together, we're still not "together." But when I try to part he won't let me go.

Annoyance. 😢

Yeah, that doesn't work with me either, though, good thought, SG.

With mine, since I stopped putting-out, he thinks I'm having an affair with somebody and just tries harder to keep me. It doesn't faze him or make him leave .. the opposite, he's more attentive.

The thing is .. I didn't want him more attentive, I wanted him to give up and let us part. It's been years .. he loves Mrs. Sock 😛

a mature man doesn't need alot of excuses to cover up something .. just because they are afraid to disappoint someone .. they say things straight to the point .. and do things just they way they say it .. like you're leaving out of town .. when you plan to leave her life forever ..

i don't think i would ever think and sound like your girl, class-act-aries .. because your girl is just so blinded with deception .. to her feelings right now .. hoping .. wishing .. dreaming .. confused ..

why? you don't need any reason for that .. 'coz she's so into you .. leave her alone .. she will move on .. she's better off without you ..

and you know what? one more thing i've noticed, you are thinking about a whole lot of things .. that is sooo beyond your control ..

that's the way she is .. why do you care? you're still trying to figure things out? whaaaat for—?

.. you do not sound like an aries .. you sound more like a virgo ..

.. you are close to the end of the chapter and your partner haven't reached the climax of the story yet ..

"As for Leo's .. I was thinking along the lines of Virgo being the follower .. they have to be led and since Leo likes to be in charge, I figured these two would be a good hook-up."


I can attest to this one, P-Angel .. I'd rather be a follower in the relationship (especially when the issue of being submissive matter) than the instigator .. which I think the reason why me and my (ex) virgo didn't work .. the relationship was not motivating me at all .. neither him ..

afterall, women are made from a man's rib .. there's no good foundation in a relationship if a man doesn't have a backbone (time and effort) to make a relationship work ..