will virgo realize?

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I have felt very un-appreciated with my virgo in the past 9 months, After the honeymoon stage where he reeled me in and charmed me and made me feel like the most important thing in the world, he slowly pushed me away & I no longer feel like his number 1. I made a thread yesterday called "Virgo being a show off" which explains it a bit better, it also explains thow his behaviour is with his older mates aswell. I feel like his main priority is for new people/mates to like him etc. I have learnt alot in the last few months - I have noticed that as soon as i begin to mirror him/be cold and distant (not in a rude/purposeful way, but cause ive kept myself busy with exercise, sport, friends etc) he starts to be the one who inituates all the contact and reels me back in.

i dont analyze the relationship as much anymore (even though it might seam it) - i have had a reiki healing aswell as meditating as much as i can to keep my chakra's balanced and it truly has been helping me whenever i feel anxious/fearful in the relationship.

ANYWAY, i also saw a clairvoyant about a month ago. i was absolutely stunned at her psycic abilities in knowing so much about me, my family and my relationship without me saying a word or ever meeting her before. She was a very honest and straight forward lady. She spoke mainly about my relationship and she was so direct and detailed she said "you have to stop initiating contact with him, STOP TEXTING HIM ALL THE TIME" (i was shocked, how did she know that? haha) she said i need to be "light and breezy with him" she said we can work, but i have picked someone who doesn't like "predictable", so to act more aloof if i want to be with him, and if i dont want to be like that then to dump him. She said he needs someone/something to be on the other side of the window and to pull the blind up really fast and to give him a "shock" in regards to our relationship. she said he wants love but doesnt want to be "hemmed in" so just to be light and breezy.

Question - if i were to break up with him (im not sure how much i can take of this relationship cause im not 100% happy) and he truly does care about me, would this "shock him" im not saying i will necasarily go back to him, but i feel like maybe he NEEDS that kind of a shock to realize what he had.



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Posted by sdfgwer
I watched "What Animated Woman Want" (The Simpsons) and Homer/Marge reminds me of the Guy and me. At any rate, I am moving in the near future. I have stopped buying things and have begun throwing things away.



How does your post relate? Who cares. First of all, an idiot would move for a guy. It doesn't work. The guy will just resent you for moving especially if you already have issues.
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Posted by Impulsv
How tiring to always be something UR not " light n breezy" if I'm light n breezy that's because that's what u are to me. But don't base a decision based on a psychic. We can never assume an body knows what u want. So let me ask you, what do you want from him? Also I would not want to play a shock breakup if u dont mean it or as a test because it could back fire.
After figuring out what u want from him tell him in a non confrontational way like need more of this... Don't say u don't make me feel number one. What does that mean? More phone calls, gifts, attention,compliments. U need to be specific.
Also it's not fair walking away without expressing what u need n see if they are willing to make that change. Uve said hes already made some.



yeah it is tiring, well i have told him heaps of times of the things i want. we are both aware that our relationship has gone downhill. but hes so stubborn and alot of the time he thiks IM wrong and he's right. I say to him "i have taken your critisizm WELL and looked at is good advice and i have bettered my self from it, but you are so stuborn and you need to realize that my advice to you is good and genuine" he had nothing to say to that cause he knew i was right, he felt bad i think and began hugging me for a few minutes. I feel like he KNOWS he's being selfish/a jerk but he doesnt go to much effort to try change? he thinks im gonna stay forever and put up with it, until one day i might just get OVER it and leave. and ONLY then will he get the "shock" and realize. it's just how he is. the other night we were with group of friends and we were all drinking and we were talking about this couple, and how the girl gave him no warning that she was not happy and then just left. MY boyf then said how his ex gave him heaps of warnings but he just shrugged them off and didnt think anything would ever happen until she finally left and he felt the shock and was like "hang on a minute..." AND only THEN realized. it made me secretly think of what the psycic said to me a month ago. i think thats just what he's like, hes not going to change unless something dramatic happens. like when i BACK off he starts to call and text until i reply..and if i dont reply quickly he gets annoyed. but if i do that to him its the end of the world and he needs space. lol, mind you i never get annoyed or show that im annoyed if he doesnt reply straigh
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Break up with him. Take a breather. Believe me you will feel more empowered like you made a decision for yourself. It will make you more confident. Just get your frustration out it's OK to be angry and frustrated. Tell him you had enough, you've appreciated him for .... whatever... but this isn't working. Tell him he will be OK and you need to move on. He'll be back. But until you feel certain of yourself, do not take him back. Take your time.
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my next problem is - i cant bring myself to break up with him. 😭 I am too scared.

1) i know i should, cause im clearly unhappy and am probably blocking all other doors to open for me until i leave him but i just cant. the thought of him going off with another girl makes me sick. (we dont have any problems in our relationship to do with being unfaithful etc) but it still makes me feel sad.

2) we have WAAAAAAYYY too many mutual friends now, and the city i live in isnt that big, and we would defiently see eachother at social events or even just cross paths at clubs etc. which is all fine and dandy but i know i cant hold myself together and will probably ball my eyes out and accidently make a scene and i do NOT want him to know that im upset if we broke up.

3) i know its not good, but im scared of change 😢
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You are overreacting. This is why you NEED to end it. It's not healthy for you. Just do it. You will feel in power. This has nothing to do with long term break up. You need to do something to break yourself form this strain of crying over a guy that isn't doing much for you. Msg back after you broke it off. So GO! Make it out of the blue. Then when you're saying byes just hang up before he's done.

DO IT. 🙂
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Posted by tiziani
+1 this the case.

Scorpio24, you talk often about "realizing what he's got". I like you and how you wear your heart on your sleeve, but this relationship has made you too self-satisfied and fearful of change.


It has also made him into some pretty bad sides of himself. You too have the type of chemistry right now where you bring out bad sides of each other. It happens and it isn't the end of the world.

Taking pride in how others see you is just a part of being in your 20s, especially for a man I guess. When you're in your 20s a lot of social jealousy is involved and that is just part of the game and growing up.

If you cannot accept this about, then it is best you leave and challenge yourself elsewhere. Because you cannot change him.

You will both be unsatisfied either way and that is just a part of the game. Some people have the type of relationship where they can grow together from a very young age, but that is very rare. For the rest of us, we live and we learn.



LOL! sounds so funny, yet makes so much sense haha
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Hun, my suggestion is stay with the guy. Don't ditch him but ffs, go about your own life and not just until he calls you after 4 days because he wants to reel you back in but go about your life FULLY giving him only as much time as a friend and when he wakes up and wants FULL commitment only then bother to stop and listen up to what he is proposing.

In short....STOP LIVING YOUR LIFE FOR HIM!!!!
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Wait wait wait....first you come here bitching about that he doesnt like you or whatever (i cant remember exactly)and so upset over it. Then he starts making an effort and youre all happy and blah blah blah and now your miserable and feel under appreciated and want to break up with him...all in what a month or two? and what to break up with him on purpose to get his attention...not cool! shit or get off the pot cause this isnt fair to him either.
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Wait wait wait....first you come here bitching about that he doesnt like you or whatever (i cant remember exactly)and so upset over it. Then he starts making an effort and youre all happy and blah blah blah and now your miserable and feel under appreciated and want to break up with him...all in what a month or two? and what to break up with him on purpose to get his attention...not cool! shit or get off the pot cause this isnt fair to him either.



you want constant attention from this guy (like a 2 yr old throwing a tantrum) and you want to do something to "shock him" into giving you that attention...basically manipulating him and playing head games. Thats what it all boils down too...if you were that miserable...you would have ended it a while back.
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Posted by sweethearts
Hun, my suggestion is stay with the guy. Don't ditch him but ffs, go about your own life and not just until he calls you after 4 days because he wants to reel you back in but go about your life FULLY giving him only as much time as a friend and when he wakes up and wants FULL commitment only then bother to stop and listen up to what he is proposing.

In short....STOP LIVING YOUR LIFE FOR HIM!!!!




You are right! I need to fully start living my life for me. I know it doesn't seam like it but slowly I am beginning to one step at a time! at least I've learnt a lot the last few months! 🙂
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Wait wait wait....first you come here bitching about that he doesnt like you or whatever (i cant remember exactly)and so upset over it. Then he starts making an effort and youre all happy and blah blah blah and now your miserable and feel under appreciated and want to break up with him...all in what a month or two? and what to break up with him on purpose to get his attention...not cool! shit or get off the pot cause this isnt fair to him either.



you want constant attention from this guy (like a 2 yr old throwing a tantrum) and you want to do something to "shock him" into giving you that attention...basically manipulating him and playing head games. Thats what it all boils down too...if you were that miserable...you would have ended it a while back.
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It's isnt within "a month or two" this relationship has been up and down for the last 9 months. It's only the last month or two that I have began writing about it on dxpnet.
I don't want to break up with him on "purpose" to play mind games. I hate mind games. I want to do it because It will be a massive weight off my shoulders and other doors in my life will open and I will probably be the consistently happy scorpio that I usually am. Right now I'm sick of being happy one minute then hurt/sad the next. It's not the type of relationship I want and I feel exhausted.
You said "if you were that miserable you would have ended it a whole back" - yeah this might be true if it were you or if it were someone else but I do love this guy and I want to know that I have tried everything I can before I just end it. Not everyone is the same, and yes I might appear weak cause I'm too scared to break up with him cause I don't want to lose him buy whatever. That's how I am and that's why I am on here trying to get some insight on what/how to do it.
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"you want constant attention from this guy (like a 2 yr old throwing a tantrum) and you want to do something to "shock him" into giving you that attention...basically manipulating him and playing head games"

Lol get fucked.

It is NOT about attention. It's about him being a tiny bit more considerate/loving towards me more consistently and I will be happy. I don't expect "attention" 24/7 so stop turning my words around thanks. It's not exactly NICE when new people who hardly knows come in and he literally goes WELL out of his way for them and completely forgets about me - every time.
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Posted by scorpio24
"you want constant attention from this guy (like a 2 yr old throwing a tantrum) and you want to do something to "shock him" into giving you that attention...basically manipulating him and playing head games"

Lol get fucked.

It is NOT about attention. It's about him being a tiny bit more considerate/loving towards me more consistently and I will be happy. I don't expect "attention" 24/7 so stop turning my words around thanks. It's not exactly NICE when new people who hardly knows come in and he literally goes WELL out of his way for them and completely forgets about me - every time.



And even if he did...it still wouldn't be good enough for you. You'll come back here bitching and complaining yet again.
You're to immature for a relationship (hence telling me to get fucked because you don't like what I have to say ) ...and he's gonna see thru your bs

Yeah the relationship may have been going on for 9 months but in a matter of a month or two ...you've went back and forth.
"He treats me horrible" " I love him and he's finally stepping up" " I'm so miserable and under appreciated"
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Posted by kindleberry
They can still hang out with friends. She will just avoid him THAT will real him in again.



yeah im actually pretty certain this WOULD reel him in again. but its still so hard to break it off with him. The thought of him with other girls etc makes me feel sick. i know if we broke up i would eventually be heaps happy but i know that for ages it will be really really really hard.

I'm generally a pretty happy/confident person. i feel like i should just stay with him but just concentrate on my self and my goals more, which are:

1) getting my body into PERFECT shape.

2) finding a new job cause im in need of a career change.

I feel like if i put all my energy into myself then my chakras will naturally balance themselves out and then i'll feel better and then my good energy will be attractive.

i just wish i didn't give a fuck & only then would things go my way. *the power of the mind*

AHHHHH!
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@LostinmyMind114 i told you to get fucked cause you have chosen to take what i am saying the wrong way and put it all on me. I am in this relationship - you are not. I know whats what so please dont change it around into what you THINK it is. it is not about me "not liking what i hear" I am the first person who will admit my weakness's etc. I take in EVERYONES opinions even if i dont like what i hear, unless it's just pointless bullshit like yours.

"You'll come back here cookiemonstering and complaining yet again"

Dont open up my threads then. its that simple 🙂
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Posted by LostinmyMind11
And if you werent going to play head games with him...then why the question in your op? "If I do break up with him...will it "shock" him into realizing what he had?" Or whatever you put...

You can tell me all you want that you didn't plan to do that...but I can see thru your bs too...



Our relationship is at a stage where his behaviour is probably not CHANGE-ABLE by me asking. the only way he would realize what he has is if i broke up with him. if you want to take it as "mind games" then so be it. it's not my intentions and congratulations for having superpowers and being able to tell if my words from the other side of the world from someone you have never met before is "bs"
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Posted by virg_goki
If you actually break with him, please do it only because it's strictly for you and not to threaten/force him to reel you in again. You are already pretty sure that he will do that.

You seem like a sweet girl and need a doting man focused on you rather than one who like multi-tasking to rise up the social ladder while being with you. Sure he may be distant at times but consider why he does that. He is getting the fullest out of life and if you can put yourself before him (recharging before going back to him) that may actually improve your r/s.

everyone should be responsible for their own happiness before the significant other. This will sound selfish but imagine if you are constantly unhappy about your situation and puts the responsibility on the other, I'm sure both will eventually resent it. Go out with your girlfriends and have a ball of a time and be happy by the time you see him. He should be the same. If he isn't he damn well isn't suitable for the social ladder climbing.



you are right.

it's not just that though, im sick of being too afraid to text him or to ask him anything or sometimes even speak cause it might "annoy him/make him want to be distant" im sick of having to completely back off and act like i dont care when i really do in order to get any form of attention/love from him. it shouldnt be like this. 😭
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Posted by CluelessCancer
Cut to the bone! If he cries videotape it, because a Virgo never cries, it has to be documented...



LMAO. +1. True, I've never seen one cry myself. Although I did ask a Virguy the question if I was to kick him where it hurts most (ie. the groin area) wearing my heels whether that would make him cry.... PS. Do not try this at home,this is purely for theoretically purposes.... he didn't respond 😉
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Posted by scorpio24
im at work at the moment and he's at his own work. i am very tempted to text him something like "not sure we are good together" or something. i dont know. i know he probably wont reply coz he never does. he will probably go off and analyze it for 10 years before he replies or he will ignore it and message me later changing the subject or he will agree.

im scared.



Damn. I understand you 100%
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im at work at the moment and he's at his own work. i am very tempted to text him something like "not sure we are good together" or something. i dont know. i know he probably wont reply coz he never does. he will probably go off and analyze it for 10 years before he replies or he will ignore it and message me later changing the subject or he will agree.

im scared.



Damn. I understand you 100%
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Virgo men are something else.
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im at work at the moment and he's at his own work. i am very tempted to text him something like "not sure we are good together" or something. i dont know. i know he probably wont reply coz he never does. he will probably go off and analyze it for 10 years before he replies or he will ignore it and message me later changing the subject or he will agree.

im scared.



Damn. I understand you 100%



Virgo men are something else.
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Yeah. True. I'd NEVER EVER date one if incase this one fails! They're emotionally draining and VERY insensitive.
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The typical male Virgo wants a woman who has emotional strength .... the women in here whining about not getting enough emotional rescue, so therefore, losing the interest of the Virgo should be evidence enough.

However, I see that it isn't evidence enough because they still present themselves as victims ... they still present themselves as little girls who never learned how to take care of their own feelings.

As Tiz stated .... there's no reason for my counsel with this woman, she obviously doesn't want help with a relationship. What she wants are as many people as possible to be emotional crutches for her because she cannot handle her own feelings because she is one of the needy females that men want to run away from ... but, while tolerate as long as she's dropping her panties for him.



She's not emotionally strong enough to handle herself ... and men in general ususally find that disgusting. However, it doesn't appear as though women actually get that.
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I will say this ..... everything Lostinmymind11 has said has been the utter truth .... and I found myself agreeing with everything she said in here.


The fact that you think she's being mean is due to you not being able to handle the truth because you are too weak to handle yourself, so therefore make thread after thread in here, looking for people to carry your feelings for you.


Because of this, you make the Virgos sick to their stomach, since they admire and highly respect people who are capable of keeping their emotions in check.


If anyone wants to find their way into the high regard of the Virgo .... then you have to get a fucking grip on yourself and actually be an emotionally mature person
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The fact that you think she's being mean is due to you not being able to handle the truth because you are too weak to handle yourself, so therefore make thread after thread in here, looking for people to carry your feelings for you.


Because of this, you make the Virgos sick to their stomach, since they admire and highly respect people who are capable of keeping their emotions in check.


If anyone wants to find their way into the high regard of the Virgo .... then you have to get a fucking grip on yourself and actually be an emotionally mature person



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