Cap is torturing our daughter

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I was putting it off and didn’t even wanted to TALK about his ass…

Well. He blocked me long ago. Just because. Whatever. Who gives a shit?

All of a sudden he texts me nasty shit like he thinks that our 27 y/old daughter is influenced by me to not to love him…

The problem is that her being his only ever child - he doesn’t love her the way I would imagine father should love his daughter.

He moved out of his new green-card wife and he is bored 65 y/old drunk (doesn’t look like low life drunk with his good genes) and his father died finally at 95 and nowadays the only person he can torture is our daughter!

She is working 2 jobs and they live in the city. She has friends getting married, she is maid of honor and they have LIFE!

He is 25min away but he never will go and visit.

But he demanding attention. She says EVERY TIME they talk he bringing me up and calling me names and she is keeping neutral.

But lately he is losing it worse than before.

She is crying every time they talk. He is accusing her in loving me more. Not being attentive to him.

He says he is scared to be alone because of being 66 with previous heart attack (he drinks and smokes TONS). She said that grandma (my mom) is 78 and lives alone and doesn’t complain.

He is pretending he doesn’t hear…

It’s why I left - nagging, negativity, lies, twisting facts, complaining, crying…URGHHH!!!

She said I don’t care anymore. I’ll never be good enough.

Last text he sent me FUCK YOU!

I am like so what? Whatever…I don’t reply. I am listening Chopin with Aries…and KISS…I don’t give a shit!!!

But my poor child. I am feeling like it’s my fault!

I was supposed to be receiving all his crap. She says ‘he is not your problem anymore’ and she mean it. She blessed me on leaving him…but now she is in tears at least once a week.

And honestly…I feel sorry for him as well.

But should he be my problem?

I gave him all I could. And I had nothing else to give so I left.

With Aries bipolar ex and mine now - we are bit annoyed like - doesn’t divorce mean THE END?

And answer is - NO FUCKING WAY! Right?

What can I tell him so he understand that guilt trip and love are DIFFERENT THINGS! He is just not very intelligent and very selfish and I don’t know if he can change.
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Tipical alcoholic behavior - making yourself a victim propably out of guilt. And your daughter and you should cut off emotions. By making you react he gets what he wants - attention. Nothing what you will say will get to him. You should stop reacting.


He is her DADDY! She knows he is spoiled high maintenance (her words) brat with low consideration for others but he can make her feel sorry for him and she IS! Saying I don’t care anymore but crying!

He is the strangest item that you can’t say anything really bad about him but at the same time you can’t say anything good either!

Fucked up combination! Putz!

Everybody - either - OR. He is - neither! 🤦‍♀️
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He just wants someone to take care of him.. right now it’s just a big wahhhhhhhhh fest. It’s not your fault, ignore him. Oh maybe block him!

Your daughter needs to not put up with his shit. My kids had to do the same. Because when someone will not take the blame, they blame others. He’s made his bed & gets to lie in it. Treating your child this way is horrible. & why exactly would they want to spend time with you when you act like that?
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Posted by PuzzlePieces

He just wants someone to take care of him.. right now it’s just a big wahhhhhhhhh fest. It’s not your fault, ignore him. Oh maybe block him!

Your daughter needs to not put up with his shit. My kids had to do the same. Because when someone will not take the blame, they blame others. He’s made his bed & gets to lie in it. Treating your child this way is horrible. & why exactly would they want to spend time with you when you act like that?


I am thinking if I didn’t leave him he wouldn’t torture her. I would scream at him but he is so sure of his ‘super goodness’ that nothing can change that!!

If only he lightened up with his hysteria - she would be his best friend.

Again - he is Cap - is this his fault or his placement stronger than himself?
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Posted by -Capriquarius

Tipical alcoholic behavior - making yourself a victim propably out of guilt. And your daughter and you should cut off emotions. By making you react he gets what he wants - attention. Nothing what you will say will get to him. You should stop reacting.

He is her DADDY! She knows he is spoiled high maintenance (her words) brat with low consideration for others but he can make her feel sorry for him and she IS! Saying I don’t care anymore but crying!

He is the strangest item that you can’t say anything really bad about him but at the same time you can’t say anything good either!

Fucked up combination! Putz!

Everybody - either - OR. He is - neither! 🤦‍♀️

Yes I understand exactly what she feels, because I have alcoholic father and he's exactly like this ( even tho he's not drinking). I do sometimes feel sorry for him, but I stoped accepting he's shitty behaviour and I cut myself from a toxic relationship between him and my mum. It's the only way. Try to talk to her insted of him. You will see results way faster, because those people seem have no interst in reflecting on themselfs and have reality check. Maybe she should try therapy. Being andult child of alcoholic is common problem and it's nothing shameful to consult it with specialist.
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Oh. I am not talking to him at all!

Only to her. And we gossiping. Lol

It’s hard to explain how different his alcoholism than ‘regular’. He is a drinker. He is having it as his only entertainment. He is quiet. Non confrontational. Good food and drinking in front of TV - his LIFE! That’s all he wants to do.

So was his father who lived until 95 and died a healthy man. But he was ‘dying’ all 30 years I knew him. Starting exactly at age of his son now.

So you can’t really blame anything on him except nothing was done. He told me once ‘I don’t beat you’ and I said ‘I don’t beat you either!’ So how is THAT an accomplishment?

So our child has not suffered from his drinking. He was funny drunk. Not showing being hammered or slurring - just smiley happy dude!

You know? Is there damage if he never embarrassed her (because he didn’t go anywhere much). Because he was funny - her friends liked him. He never stormed into her room asking WTF is going on? There weren’t any problems!

Have you seen this kind?
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He just wants someone to take care of him.. right now it’s just a big wahhhhhhhhh fest. It’s not your fault, ignore him. Oh maybe block him!

Your daughter needs to not put up with his shit. My kids had to do the same. Because when someone will not take the blame, they blame others. He’s made his bed & gets to lie in it. Treating your child this way is horrible. & why exactly would they want to spend time with you when you act like that?

I am thinking if I didn’t leave him he wouldn’t torture her. I would scream at him but he is so sure of his ‘super goodness’ that nothing can change that!!

If only he lightened up with his hysteria - she would be his best friend.

Again - he is Cap - is this his fault or his placement stronger than himself?
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My Cap father was not like this. You don’t need to protect your daughter she has her own relationship with him, and it seems they have to figure that out.
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Posted by -Capriquarius
Posted by GemiMay
Posted by -Capriquarius
Posted by GemiMay
Posted by -Capriquarius

Tipical alcoholic behavior - making yourself a victim propably out of guilt. And your daughter and you should cut off emotions. By making you react he gets what he wants - attention. Nothing what you will say will get to him. You should stop reacting.

He is her DADDY! She knows he is spoiled high maintenance (her words) brat with low consideration for others but he can make her feel sorry for him and she IS! Saying I don’t care anymore but crying!

He is the strangest item that you can’t say anything really bad about him but at the same time you can’t say anything good either!

Fucked up combination! Putz!

Everybody - either - OR. He is - neither! 🤦‍♀️

Yes I understand exactly what she feels, because I have alcoholic father and he's exactly like this ( even tho he's not drinking). I do sometimes feel sorry for him, but I stoped accepting he's shitty behaviour and I cut myself from a toxic relationship between him and my mum. It's the only way. Try to talk to her insted of him. You will see results way faster, because those people seem have no interst in reflecting on themselfs and have reality check. Maybe she should try therapy. Being andult child of alcoholic is common problem and it's nothing shameful to consult it with specialist.

Oh. I am not talking to him at all!

Only to her. And we gossiping. Lol

It’s hard to explain how different his alcoholism than ‘regular’. He is a drinker. He is having it as his only entertainment. He is quiet. Non confrontational. Good food and drinking in front of TV - his LIFE! That’s all he wants to do.

So was his father who lived until 95 and died a healthy man. But he was ‘dying’ all 30 years I knew him. Starting exactly at age of his son now.

So you can’t really blame anything on him except nothing was done. He told me once ‘I don’t beat you’ and I said ‘I don’t beat you either!’ So how is THAT an accomplishment?

So our child has not suffered from his drinking. He was funny drunk. Not showing being hammered or slurring - just smiley happy dude!

You know? Is there damage if he never embarrassed her (because he didn’t go anywhere much). Because he was funny - her friends liked him. He never stormed into her room asking WTF is going on? There weren’t any problems!

Have you seen this kind?

Well in some parts Yes that reminds my father. My father is bit more aggressive and I sometimes think that he's brain got damaged from drinking because he doesn't think rational.

I mentioned therapy because that would help her to live with him on good terms. She would sort out her emotions, stop feeling guilty when she doesn’t have to without cutting him off from life.

You know, the fact someone is good because he didn't hit you or he's happy drunk or the fact he's calm it doesn't mean anything tbh. My father never hit me, nor my mum and he was also good person because never ended up in jail or cheated on her. So what since the trauma happened still and I don't concider myself normal person.

All that doesn't mean people have to stand someone's behavior only because they are good people. That's just my opinion.
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Thanks. Very appreciate your input.

So please tell me what do you consider being trauma?