Aqua's behavior is making me mad :/

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I've told my story with this aqua guy. He seems very mature and normal guy. He always treats me with respect and seems like a good guy. He's shy and sensitive, something different from the typical described aquarius. Maybe because he was raised in a strict family or other natal influences in his chart. I know his chart is made up of earth, water and few fire signs but he only has an air sign in his sun. He told me that he really likes me and it's so confusing to me of the way he shows it. I know he liked me, he would jealous of guys around me, he had his brother spying on me in school, and just the way he looks at me, is so affectionate with me. But then he disappoints me. Yesterday, we were texting and he asked me when I'm gonna take us out. And then our convo lead onto how he always asks me out but I thought that's b.s because the last time he asked me out was like a month ago. So I told him words are just words.. n that the last time we went out was last year Lol but he didn't reply.

Today, I was walking towards the school building and I saw him waiting until I'll get closer. He told me he was about to leave but then saw me and stopped. He said he was going home and I told him so was I.. We live not far away from each other so I thought he could of at least asked if I need a ride. I texted him few mins later and asked if he could give me a ride. But he replied 20 mins later saying sorry he didn't read my message and he was already home. I mean something's going on I feel. He's testing me or something. He told me before he's got my back, he wanted to teach me how to drive and kind of got offended of why I didn't ask for his help, but then when I do it seems he purposely ditches me. And it's not the first time. I don't think I might have given him the impression of a user but still if he likes me why does he act sometimes like this? It's really annoying and I don't get how to deal with it? I ignored him after he told me sorry that he didn't read my message. That was a bullshit. His phone never leaves his hand. And it's not like I often ask him for favors anyway maybe few times n both of them he couldn't help. WTF? If I was his regular buddy Im sure he would have given me the ride. Can someone explain this to me? Should I move on or try to talk this out with him? I know he gets sensitive and maybe some of my words and actions might have hurted him. But then why be quiet about it, act cool like nothing happened and then do something purposely to anger me
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If that's the case. But I don't think I have hurt him that much to make him leave me confused about his actions. I thought he was mature coz that's how he came off in the beginning when he was talking "relationship" matters. I don't think I gave him the right vibe about what I want. In the beginning I really wanted just friendship but then I developed deeper feelings and I saw him as someone I'd wanna be in relationship with and this happened right when he pulled awaya little and started texting me less. I still want him to chase me to make me secure that he isn't after other females. But I guess we have already passed that stage and he just wants me to admit I like him. But again I might be wrong on this.. I'm really confused on what to do next 😢
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Well someone being reliable/dependable is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than someone being shy and sensitive. It seems like your issue with him is moreso about his wishy-washy behavior & how he can prove to be unreliable during the times when you need him most. If your issue with him is that he's unreliable than that has nothing to do with him being shy, reserved or sensitive. All sensitive people aren't unreliable. Those are 2 separate issues. Him not opening up and/or fully expressing his feelings for you in a consistant manner can be put in the "he's sensitive" category, BUT him simply playing mind games with you & not being there for you or showing up when you've let him know that you need him sounds more like you're just dealing with a man that is simply not dependable. Sounds like there might be a little mind-game playing going on. Sounds like he might be testing you just a little but I don't think that's the main issue. Sounds like he just wants you to chase him. Sounds like he says all these sweet things in order for you to chase him but when it's time to match those words with actions, he disappears or becomes very wishy-washy. He might express some jealousy & possessiveness when you're around other guys but in this day & age, that doesn't mean that he's showing those traits as an indication of how much he likes/cares about you. After all, even physical & mental abusers are the most jealous & possessive when it comes to their partners being around the opposite sex, but aren't we all trained to believe that that kinda stuff isn't true love/caring? This man might be jealous in GENERAL, meaning he's like that with any girl that he calls himself spending time with you. If I were you, I'd just either walk away & move on or if you're going to stay, you have to have the patience & the willingness to chase after him & do your part even if he doesn't meet you half way. The choice is yours
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But clearly to me it seems he's doing it with intention to see how I react to it. I got a response from psychologist student that he's not interested just in friendship with me and it's like either friends, lovers, or nothing. And she concluded that it's time for me to choose what I want. I am little insecure inside of whether it's relationship or more than friendship. I'm little bit scared of committing myself to someone. Not that I might lose my freedom but afraid to get hurt. I mean in the beginning he told me what he wants and that's relationship with me. When we were having open n honest conversations things were very well. Then my friend was kind of influencing me to play little hard to get and maybe this ruined things between us. But you think he could just change his mind so fast? And since we both go to the same school, I'm forced to see him.. but I'm not sure what's the best way to act if he'll come around. I'm really sick of this half mind playing situation. What I really want inside is a real relationship where both partners give in and take. But I don't know how to admit this to him or how to let him know what I want now. I'm looking for comfortable ways..
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@UrCleopatra: You listened to too many people.First your friend then a psychologist student?? It's alright on one hand to listen to others'advice . on the other hand, you need to do your analysis too and observe the guy.
My advice is to tell the guy what you want, instead of dancing around the issue.If he runs away, it doesn't mean to be, why bothers? After all, you two didn't have anything serious yet , so I think it's kind of understanding to see his flaky behaviour. On the other hand , you must consider whether yo can accept someone who probably is "unrealible". To be honest, if I were you, I'd tell him what I thought of him exactly.Maybe, you can have the truth from him, at least his side instead of guessing his motive for "forgetting" things he told you. I've done this to all my Aqua friends and they usually told me what proned them to behave like this and if they actually respect me just "a little", they'd do their best to make things more comfortable for both of us. Even with the Aqua boyfriend I'm with now, I'll always tell him what on my mind. Granted there will be always something that one might not change (whatever the reason or excuse is) but it's up to you to decide whether you can put up with it and the other way around. Nothing is perfect in this life.
Trust in yourself and stop being scared.Good luck!
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That's the damn hard thing is to figure this guy out. I've been coming with conclusions that he might be one of those control freaks or better way put, emotionally abusive men. Since he'd always want to know what I'm doing, his friends would call me by his last name because everyone knew he liked me for serious. But now doesn't try to see me, like he used to go out of his way and he was very punctual. He'd say he'll come pick me up and would be few mins earlier. I don't understand what caused him to act this way. I didn't put myself out there for him, didn't pour my feelings out nor changed my behavior. But then, u can't really figure out the person without seeing him or communicating with him. Our communication was cut very short for the past few weeks until it reached zero. 2 days ago he wrote me on facebook chat; Hi loser. He has never called me like this before. I didn't know what to assume whether he was joking around or he was tryin to make me feel down because I asked him for a ride a night before. And I told him he was a dick. He asked me why so but I logged off. I think I should of told him straight up why I thought of him the way I did which was of his flaky behavior. The next day I saw him in school's cafeteria, he saw me too but didn't come to say hi. Even we were almost in front of each other. I didn't look at him and pretended like I didn't see him. We haven't contacted each other since and well, I don't plan to. I've been feeling like a fool lately. He'd ask me when I'm taking us out or telling me how happy n important he feels when I text him but then he wouldn't initiate anything. And every time I'd ask him something it would be some excuse and sorry 😢 You have an idea how much this bothers me? It's not that he's unreliable. He is if he wants to. He does all the favors even for the strangers or ppl he doesn't like. I just quit analyzing him because it's pointless. I've tried everything and my ego is not gonna let me put myself down again by contacting him. Maybe he really only enjoyed the chase and when figured that I'm falling for it, he backed off. I wanna be treated right just how he told me at the beginning he would. But his actions don't match up his words! Right now, he has the ball in his hands. If he'll want he'll come around and see what's up with me. If not, then it obviously was just a game coz if he cared enough he would have put an effort to make things work.
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I mean he just changed out of nowhere and he says that he'd never change with me. I can't figure out if I've hurt him and thus he might be resenting for it but then why still act cute with me if he's hurt and do something to annoy me. I mean I know that was B.S when he said he didn't read my message at first. It's not just about doing a favor to me it's about him wanting to see me and spend time with me. I do have a feeling he might want me to chase him but where would that lead? Me being played around or treated right? I seriously don't get this. Boys need therapy! 😄
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Well one of the key things you said was that you were insecure about your feelings towards him. And hey, I understand that b/c when you're dealing with Aquas & at the same time trying to take the advice from all the people who told you about how Aquas are, it can get confusing. BUT, first you've got to figure out what YOU are going to do. I think you both are doing the same things; you both want something more but neither of you are willing to go first, thus what happens is that you two just eventually end up letting something good go to waste. Sure, your efforts for better communication might not work BUT atleast you'll know you did your part if you atleast try. Be yourself. Practice what you preach. If you want him to communicate with you in certain ways & frequently then you have to be the example too of what you want. Sounds like you both are insecure. And hey, until those fears/insecurities are faced, 1 OR both of you will always be in this situation. Focus on getting the communication back up first before you focus on anything else. There's no point in worrying about a relationship if you 2 can't even get the basics of communication down. And hey, just be honest with yourself; if you're the type of person that doesn't like to go 1st or if you don't think you have it in you to keep on with this guy through all the confusion then that's ok BUT if that's the case, then move on. If you don't, you'll just sit here, try to analyze everything he does & drive yourself crazy. Yes, Aqua men love to be chased BUT they also don't mind a little chase. This guy might not be emotionally available (relationship-wise) which could be a reason why he slowly but surely backs up the min. you 2 are finally starting to make progress & get closer. You're insecure too BUT understand that he might not be insecure for the same reasons that you are. You might be insecure BUT YET still want a relationship. He might be cool enough to be a little bit more than friends BUT not necessarily the title. The ball is in your court
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Either way, just know that time is ticking. It's 2010. Yes, while we can all understand that some people are shy, insecure, afraid of commitment or whatever, that still doesn't mean that you have to sit around & "wait" for someone to chase after you. You're afraid to tell him how you really feel & that is 50% of the problem. What's going to happen if this guy all of the sudden checks himself & decides that he just needs to let his walls down? You 2 won't work out if you continue to be the 1 with all the fears/insecuries/fear of rejection. You've got to find more confidence in this situation; One thing's for sure, don't think this Aqua didn't notice (while analyzing you) that you have walls up just like he does! It kind of sucks b/c you both sound like stubborn people lol & the problem with that is, you will both be unwilling to just be open about everything until the other person does. Welp, with 2 people that are very similar in how/when they express their emotions, that could be a hugggge problem & the reason why things that could've turned out great don't even make it past stage 1. And hey, once you open up & once your honest about things, you'd be suprised. That might've been all that he was waiting for (a woman that finally wasn't afraid to be open & honest even though the odds seemed stacked against her.) He might be waiting on you to go 1st like you're waiting on him. And hey, that's just men in general. Either way, if you do your part but yet it STILL doesn't seem to be moving any further, atleast you'll know that you did your part. And if that's the case, it'll be easier for you to walk away & look at this situation from a logical standpoint. Straight up, ask him what his deal is. Tell him what you want. Don't assume that he knows. And if he doesn't open up to you then move on b/c if not, you'll always be stuck in the middle with him. Either find the confidence to go 1st or admit to yourself that it's not in you to do so, & move on & find someone who will go 1st before you.
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I know it sucks to crush on someone that isn't particularly giving you the same love in return the way you want it but then again the ball is always going to be in your court. Then again, there's nothing wrong with being honest about what you want & deserve. I'm sure you're a good woman & hey there's nothing wrong with wanting a little bit more reassurance from the person that you care about. And there's going to come a time when just merely liking/loving someone isn't going to be enough to hold you over/keep you holding on if the basic & essential things like communication isn't established. Sounds like the quality of communication is low with you guys & there's 2 things you can do to fix that: 1. Either do your part & accept that he STILL might not do his part, thus at that point just move on (instead of feeling guilty & just literally staying in the situation just for the sake of staying) OR 2. Be real with yourself & go find someone else. Aquas can be confusing, yes but it's not like they're creatures from another planet either. When it comes to men in general they can be tricky. When you let them chase you, they'll do their jobs, but the minute a woman starts chasing them, they all of the sudden change & become distant. Well, men that do this usually do this b/c of either 1. Their fear of commitment (which is why coincidentally they back off the minute things start getting hot & heavy) OR 2. Their fear of putting down those security walls, with the fear that they might put them down for the wrong person (and sometimes in this case, it just depends on how good the communication is as to whether or not the woman can get him to actually put down those walls). Communication is everything. Work on that 1st before even worrying about establishing a relationship. Ask him where this is going & don't let him give you bull ish answers. Make it clear that you are one of a kind & that you don't have time to sit around & assume or wonder where some friendship/relationship is going. You have the right to know!
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Thank you very much krysrenee7,

Well, I'm not really worried about getting into a relationship with him, but about his behavior. I knew he wanted relationship in the beginning and he told me he doesn't want just one night stand with me. I told him that I needed some time and that I wanted to get to know each other first. He didn't seem to be happy with the way I responded maybe. But I know for def that he wanted something serious with me. We drove in the middle of the night to his cousin's house while his cousin's wife was in the hospital after having a baby and I told him I didn't feel comfortable stepping inside his cousin's house and he told me not to worry because I'm the kind of girl he wants to show his family. And maybe me rejecting that little invite to meet new years eve at the restaurant with his family. But if I wouldn't have asked about his plans for that night then maybe he wouldn't have offered me anyway. And communication thing. I hate texting, he loves it. I'd rather talk in person which makes me more open than putting my thoughts into messages. I was hoping for him to initiate for us to meet but it seemed like he only wanted to connect with me through technology. And well, I'm upset for him calling me a loser. Idk if that was a joke or not but I've decided to let him come around first and that way I'd start bringing up things that were happening lately and what caused him to act that way. I was very hurt when I asked him to give me a ride and he didn't (because I know that he obviously read my message before leaving and it was his EGO that controlled him) I mean even if he had lost interest he would have still given me a ride. And it's like he was showing he could care less how I'd get home. One of the biggest things I need to feel in relationship is that another person is concerned about me just the way I'd be concerned about him. I need to feel that the person naturally cares about me. Of course I cannot make him care about me if he doesn't. And confronting him about it would bring him to conclusion that I'm selfish or needy but I think it's just in everyone's nature. That's what lovin is about to me. It's like in the very beginning he was so concerned about how I'd get home and funny thing I'd push him away and feel he'd be coming on too strong. But now it's something I want 😄
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Ayayay he wrote me today on fb asking what was it all about and why I called him a dick. I told him that he was being one and asked him what about calling me a loser. He said because I only decided to text him and ask him for a ride when he left instead of doing it when we were still both outside. He said that he only got my message later. I told him I hate it when someone lies to me and that I prefer truth instead of lies or nothing. I asked him so why he didn't say hi to me the other day in cafeteria and he was like; excuse me you were the one who passed by with an attitude n didn't say anything. And I told him well maybe coz he was full of pride. And then he started saying that if he saw my text, he'd have given me a ride as always and then i turned tables on him and said as aways? n that whenever i ask him, he always says no so I won't bother to do it anymore and it's not like it's his privillege to do it anyway. Then he wrote something I couldn't quite get and I told him ok I guess that's what you were trying to say.. and then later he left the chat box.
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The inner voice tells me I should contact him later today and Tell him how I feel about him. My friend tells me to ignore him coz he's weird. But maybe, maybe if I don't do anything and just sit around I could miss something happening between us. And since my friend is leo, it all explains why she thinks I should ignore him. Leo's think ppl should chase them n praise them. But I'm not leo, my character is too different from theirs. I'm all about having faith and honesty in relationship where both partners could express how they feel and no chasing or mind games. I want to develop that friendship zone with him where we could both trust each other completely and be open about everything and thus create a relationship. I don't want it to be just intimacy...I really want something 'REAL' finally happening in my life.
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So I'm back here again with something. After this little facebook conversation, couple hours later I texted him and asked what's the deal with him? He replied asking what did I mean. I told him that it feels he's been running some game lately and if that''s the case he shouldnt bother then because I'm not into any games. Then he texted back saying; I swear ur something". I didnt quite get what he meant so I asked him what's that suppose to mean and then he texted back saying dont know what ur trying to say, so I said thats ok, forget it then. I was tryin to make it very clear but I guess there's no point to do so. And he didn't text back. Later after I got done with work, I got home and went on facebook. Saw in the news feed he uploade some new pics so I commented on one saying Looking real good 😉 But now I really regret doing it. I know it sounds so childish because it's just facebook but still, I guess I should of treated him with silence as well. I'm confused right now even more. My oh I shouldn't of texted him nor commented on his pic. Some stupid cloud ran on my brain. 😢 I'm hurt inside and I just can't this ackwardness anymore. I feel like I gotta move on for the better.
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You're right.You're childish and I don't think your emotional tantrums at him is going to do you any favour.The guy might have liked you in the beginning like you said he was on time ,doing things for you and inviting you into his life but you listened to your Leo friend to play hard to get ,then when he realised what you have done ( actually you should think if there is a hidden motive on your Leo friend, does she like the guy? does she hate him?does she have a big ego and enjoy attention with men?...) he switched and played with you.Then you got mad and thought how dare him to play this,Ive changed ,why couldn't he? I'm sorry but sometimes things aren't working out the way you always want it to be.Yes at some point he might like to have some thing serious with you but he might have also realised something about you that he dislikes so he's back off and put less effort.Does that make him a jerk? I don't know but I wonder how can he trust that next time you won't listen to other friends of yours and give him an unpleasant 'suprise' ?
On the other hand, the guy might have some interest in you but I don't know if it's enough for him to accept you as who you are so this might be something you just have to accept 'He is just not that into you' classic case.
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I was Playing hard playfully like wouldn't text back right away. But could that be the reason? Because it was just playful method. Things started to change after new years eve after I told him I'd rather spend it with my friends. I really shouldn't of said it and maybe should of apologized. And I accused him of lying yesterday when he asked me why I called him a dick. I feel horrible for doing so. He's not someone who's supposed to give me rides or anything, I shouldn't of flipped out but the reason behind this was because I thought he was playing which might not have been the case when he explained that his phone wasn't working then yet. And last night, laying my cards on the table when I texted him and asked what's the deal and if he's been playing with me. I don't know what the heck happened to me??! 😢 I would have never said such things before. He said I have an attitude nd I told him he's full of pride, which in reality he is. I feel I already screwed things up with him. It's just I can't explain how I feel inside. I wish we didn't go to the same school, it's just making things harder. 😢
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And if he's not into me, then why would he come back to me all sweet and ask me when I'm gonna take us out again and tell me that he LOVES my pictures, he never used that word before, it just seemed very strong. When we saw each other in school I could still feel that sparkle in his eyes even he was acting cool. If we'll happen to bump into each other at school, I'll just be honest with him. I'll apologize for my emotional swings and tell him that I really liked him. I'm gonna hold myself together and not run this time. If he's lost interest then oh well, at least I'll know and save myself emotional hurricanes. And I believe it's much easier to move on when you know you tried than when you have never tried and wondered what if...
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I didn't say he wasn't into you ,it just wasn't strong enough compared with his pride.That's why he gave up easily after all the sweet things he did for you .Yes he did like you and thought your character was cool to introduce you to people important in his life .However,after a while he realised you were not what he thought so he backed off and rather observed you.I must say the guy is clever.You won't be able to play any game with this guy.
I'm glad you decided to come out for your sake.It will be a brave move and I hope you learnt that fear will destroy a good potential relationship.Also you must remember to make the decision yourself and stop being swayed by others.Good luck 🙂
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Starfish225,

You're really making me to change my mind now hehe. Coz well, I'm pretty sure he understood what I meant with my message and by commenting on his picture after wards that he's looking real good with a wink smile gave him a clue that I'm interested but I guess that must have confused him a hell a lot because here I was just asking him what's the deal n demanding to tell me, whereas at the end he didn't even reply and now I gave him attention on facebook like nothing happened and fun thing is I've never commented him on fc or showed any attention at all for people to see. I've analyzed through and I think you're right. It's better way to save my face n let him think whatever he wants to think. I feel I've done enough. It should be his turn now. I think this guy gets too much attention from other girls. So I better of stay unpredictable 😉 It's just I have these emotional swing days, where I don't think but rather act upon how I feel. I really hate this. I can do crazy stuff when I'm going through it by ignoring my logical side lol but then I get back to my normal mood, things seem to go well. I'm probly gonna see him in school tomorrow but I'll just act neutral, like nothing happened and won't show any emotion but stay cool as always.. I'll see where that will get me through. But I ain't makin' any drama or emotional scenes. If he isn't man enough to follow through what he told me at the beginning then maybe he just really ain't worthy of my mental and emotional investment. I've cried enough and stressed enough already for the little things. I really gotta get myself to be strong n confident just as I was when I met him first. Falling for him started to tear me apart n I dont even know how it happened!
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Well one, I agree with you that it's the MOST important at this stage to develop that reliability & communication with eachother. BUT, what's also important, if you 2 ever want to go any further than this "middle ground" is that you learn how to pick your battles. If the WORST he's done was call you a "loser" than I hate to admit it, but compared to all the other things he could've done/said to you, I think you're over-reacting. I think the whole "loser" thing is all in your head & that it's bothering you so bad b/c of all the pride/ego that took a hit when he supposedly didn't respond to your text. Let that situation go b/c that's petty & if you hold on to the small things, you'll never get anywhere with him. Let's say he did get your text & was just being funny in not giving you a ride. Welp, so what? Like you said best, if this guy wasn't interested in you (especially with him being an Aqua) you & him wouldn't still be talking at all. So with knowing that, let that small situation go. If he really felt that you were a loser, he wouldn't still be dealing with you or yet explaining anything to you. Just let it go. Sure, you might always have to wonder if he was hinting something to you through that text but then again, if you want to move forward then you've got to start by letting the small stuff go. I think you know what you need to do, you're just afraid to do it. And hey, that's understandable, but like I said, whether your goal is friendship or the ultimate commitment with him, you still have to do your part regardless of how you think he will or won't do his. Your pride is in the way & you're struggling b/c hey, who wants to open all the way up to someone, just to find out that the other person doesn't feel the exact same? Problem is, taking that risk of exposing your emotiosn & feelings to someone is what comes with the TERRITORY of growing to like someone.
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And also understand that Aqua men get turned off very easily. It's very rare for them that they actually REALLY like someone so when they do, the other person might not even realize how much courage it's taking them to even admit that they like you. This Aqua guy is inviting you to functions with his family b/c he wants to. Trust me, if he didn't want you to go, he would've never invited you. If he felt that you meeting his family this early was a no-no, he would've stuck by his decision regardless of how much you begged or pleaded for him to change his decision, & this is especially true when it comes to matters with their families. Others aren't good at persading or successfully pressuring Aquas (especially men) into doing something that they don't want to do. So if he invited you it's b/c he was ready to. Don't worry about whether or not those were his true intentions. Just go with the flow & live in the moment.
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And hey, it's understandable that this guy was a little distant & upset when you turned down his invite to meet his family. In his mind, it might've taken alot of pride & interest in you in order for him to do that. Aqua men are just like how you're describing yourself. When it comes to putting down the security walls, inviting people into their personal lives & thoroughly opening up to others, it's a hard task. So when an Aqua ACTUALLY does those things, no they're not doing it for their health; they're doing it b/c they feel the person is worth it. You as that "worth it" person have to appreciate this & understand that some Aqua men show their interest in diff. & more creative ways & when they actually do extend invitations (as hard as that is to do) they don't necessarily enjoy any hesitation on their partner's part. And when they are rejected, even for the smallest of things, they do tend to close back up into their shells. Just like you are taking the "loser" situation personal, take into account that it's alot more understandable for him to have taken it personal when you declined his offer to meet his family. When you did that, I'm sure you noticed that his behavior slowly but surely changed. At this point, he's probably regretting that he offered you such a priveledge. He's backing up & re-evaluating on whether or not he really likes you or not. When it comes to men, they know that women would kill to get the opportunity to meet their families, so when a woman rejects that offer, not only is their pride broken but they naturally assume that she declined b/c of lack of interest, thus it's only natural & a "smart move" in their minds to detach from the situation, in hopes that if the woman really does like him, she'll show more signs of interest before he starts to extend those kinds of invitations again
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krysreene7 thank you,

I know I might have overreacted somehow but now after things have gotten tense or at least so in my head, I need his approval that he still likes me and that I could only find out as starfish225 suggested by ignoring him to see if he cares enough to come back after me. I feel that if I push something it won't be coming naturally and that's the word for how I want things to progress because that's how real relationships start. And no this is not a mind game. Let's just call it a test. I do hope in my mind and heart that he'll come back but I can't quarantee that will give me a power to get him back, everything depends on the environment. Who knows, he might meet someone else, just like I might. But for now, I want him, all to myself. And these were the words he said to my friends when I didn't wanna give him a chance and my number.. 🙂
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Honesty is the best policy.It isn't for him but for you.And yes when they really like you or love you ,they will move mountains to be with you.However,they appreciate an honest and fair person so they can feel safe to pour their hearts out, which is a rare thing... Your distance could work for a short - term not because they care for you but likely curious about what things you are up to now... Then in the long term ,you will show your true self as someone emotional and hurt easily ,not the cool and distant one like you tried to poytray thenhe probably will be turned off again by your dishonesty...Yes I won't say it won't work but only a short- term .If you're looking for something lasts longer than a few years,be yourself.
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Well, what do you mean when you say to be honest? What makes you think I'm not? I haven't lied to him about anything. And I never pretend to be distant, if that's how I feel at that moment then that's how I am. If I have lots of emotions running in my veins, I tend to express them just like I did when I asked him what's the deal and he couldn't give me a clear answer. I got hurt thus I distanced myself from him. He's not showing any interest right now, So why should I go up in his ass to beg for it. If he'll want, he'll come to me. But I'm not gonna make anymore moves because I don't wanna get hurt. Everybody works differently. And this is how I am, I need more reassurance from another person about their feelings. In this case, maybe he isn't honest himself. I kind of think he's lost interest already because he hasn't contacted me since and today I passed him in school's cafeteria, I don't know if he saw me or not. I just heard later on someone saying, something like; oh that's her, what happened guys, why u don't talk. I'm not the only bad person here, he's hurt me too with his weird behavior. He can only figure out his issues himself. He's really been acting weird lately, I have even asked him before what's wrong but the only thing he told me is that I don't talk to him.. But then, when I initiate contact, he seems happy but then still acts strange which confuses me. I don't think there's anything I can do about this already. It's really sad but I feel the guy's lost interest 😢 The saddest thing is that he came on so strong at the beginning and maybe well I took it for granted coz I wasn't into him that much. But when my feelings changed, he changed too. I accept the fact that sometimes I might be mean, overreact, but we're not all perfect we all have flows. Life's not a pencil, and I can't erase things that happened. If he asked me, I'd tell him how I feel about him. AND thing is that his friends all still talk to me like nothing's happened or changed. Today, I was talking with his friend and he was telling me things about aqua guy.
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In my opinion. We don't fall in love, we just tend to make ourselves to believe that we are. And I didn't like the guy at the beginning. But maybe I just made myself believe that I like him and maybe if I don't do anything n nothing works out between us, won't be a big deal. It's just things are lying in our consciousness. It's some chemical in our heads that makes us think n feel the way we do, and I think we have a power to control it n thus stop liking someone. I feel I have more energy to do that rather than making a move towards him and telling him how I feel, which is way worse than death or public speaking, it's not the rejection that might prevent me and I believe people in general but just the moment of doing it. I think some people are better at handling what comes after the action than the process itself. Just my point of view. However, I don't have the power to change my feelings but maybe? Anyways it's hard because some people lack that element which is when emotions become stronger and we're no capable to deal with reality. If you can't change reality, why not change the way you handle it? I might be off the topic here LOL If nothing's gonna work out between us, it is gonna be hard for me to see him in school and pass each other like we've never met before. Coz it doesn't seem like he'd wanna stay friends with me either. Its like either lovers or nothing. Which I thought aquas stay friends even with their ex lovers but I guess maybe depending on the situation.
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I agree with Scartooth. Yes, you are entitled to do things your way BUT understand that he is too. And maybe his method of maintaining emotional control & his way of "avoiding hurt" is to do exactly what you did, which is distance & just hope that the other person comes back with enough reassurance to restart everything again. On 1 hand, I agree with you b/c techincally, even if you do yours AND his part, that STILL doesn't guarantee that he'll respond in the way that you'd like. But hey, that's just the risk you take. What is NATURAL about love/relationships is NOT holding back, especially when the source of distance is routed in fear. That is NOT natural. Just like people miss out on good things b/c they play mind games, they ALSO miss out on good things b/c of fear, being afraid of being hurt and/or not wanting to take the risk of going for it & possibly losing in the end. If you want to go for it, but find yourself being stuck b/c of an inner insecurity (being hurt, for example) then techinically while you are NOT lying, you are STILL not completely being yourself. And hey, that's understandable b/c Aquas can be the exact same way. We can really like a person too death but just for the sake of being a rebel, we won't see the need in reassuring anyone of anything until it's almost too late. And hey like you said, this guy liked you way more in the beginning than you liked him so maybe this is a case of karma. Back then, you prob. gave him the same feeling that he's giving you now. And in this case, the ball is in your court. We can discuss this all day; all that matters is that you know yourself & how you do things when it comes to emotions & chasing others. Be you. You can either wait it out & just "hope" that he's not the kind of man who misses all the signals OR you can just move on. It's either 1 or the other. Think about the advantages & disadvantages to both options so you won't literally be sitting in this "middle ground" with him
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I understand exactly how you feel. I mean, no one likes to do all the chasing & it's understandable to want a little bit more reassurance sometimes. BUT at the end of the day, just like you have your right to do/express things in your own way that is unique to your personality, so do others. And sometimes you'll have to find out the hard way that the way 2 people do things are so completely the opposite OR the same that just b/c of that in itself, the friendship/relationship won't work out. It does sound like this guy has lost a little interest & hey he might be 1. Waiting on you to reassure him again, which might be the reason why he won't techinically cut you off (holding on for a reason) or 2. He might be keeping you around just for the sake of keeping you around, but then again not giving you nearly half the attention that he primarily gave you when he liked you (He might keep you around b/c technically you haven't done anything wrong or betrayed him). It could be either or. Either way, you've got to act. If your heart is telling you that your chances with him are now gone, then you've got to either walk or be patient & try to figure this thing out the best you can. Don't be selfish & tell yourself that yes, you want him all to yourself but then again complain about everything he does either, b/c at the end of the day..if you stay & get hurt, that'll be on you. You can analyze this thing too death & let your head spin in circles but that won't change the fact that you want him but yet might be holding on to something that is no longer there. Don't walk away just for the sake of seeing if he'll come back b/c the truth is, you should want someone who gets it right the 1st time. If you set the pace in the friendship/relationship that one or both of you will only get it together once someone/something has been lost, it'll ALWAYS be that way! Think about that. He either wants you now while your in his face or he loses out completely. Aquas won't chase you any harder if you walk away; unlike some other signs, they can take even the most horrible loses & be confident in the fact that they'll move on.
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Do to the fact that you might be misunderstanding him this whole time, it's not wise to physically walk away, while knowing deep down that if he were to come back at any minute you'd jump into his arms. For all you know, all of yours & our opinion about this Aqua might be all wrong, thus you walking away might be what REALLY does it for him. In order to fix the puzzle, you have to have all the pieces. If you walk away, understand that just b/c you don't consider it a mind game doesn't mean that HE won't. If you walk away, he's going to take your word for it & IMMEDIATELY he'll start to move on; and this happens when an Aqua is not in love with you yet. Aquas don't believe that walking away is the answer so when someone else does just that, regardless of how good or bad their reasoning is, they won't ever be able to look at you in the same light again. Whereas your deepest fears might be in expressing your emotions only to get less back in return, an Aqua's BIGGEST fear is to offer someone that commitment & stability, but yet still get walked out on. So walking away from an Aqua before you're really ready or before your decision is really final is NOT a good idea. Either way, you've got to analyzing everything & eventually make a move. If you don't, this situation will eventually consume you & your mind will end up digging so deep into this that it natural makes you believe that this is a bigger situation than it really is. If you want to walk away, walk away b/c you're done regardless of what he does/or how he responds to it. Walk away b/c you're tired & be final in that decision. Aquas are a little intimidated by others clinging to them, yes BUT they also won't play into the cat-mouse game either. If they want you, they'll come after you, thus if an Aqua doesn't come after you it's not b/c their idiots..no it's b/c somewhere down the line, they've lost interest. And when interest is lost, both people are just holding on just to hold on
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Hey scartooth,


No I didn't flip out that he didn't reply me. I'm not demanding, I was just trying to figure out if everything's alright and you know when person treats you with silence there's usually something wrong going on. Especially, when he's the type of guy to reply to my messages instantly. There have been times when he'd be at a soccer game and would reply me like an hour or 2 later and I'd be cool with it. But I sensed something wasn't well when he stopped asking me out or simply to hang out and he wouldn't text me as much since he'd always be the first one to text me. I'm not the type of girl who needs to be fancied with restaurants or other stuff. Simply hanging out with him and his group of friends would tell me that he likes me and wants my company. But he stopped and it left me confused whether he might be mad, lost interest or something else. But then About a week ago, when I uploaded new pictures on facebook, he 'liked' one of them and he sent me a message saying that he loves my picture, asking what I've been up to, that he doesn't see me in school... but he will as soon as he'll get a new phone. And he asked me when I'm gonna take us out on a date again but maybe I came off standoffish by hinting that he's stopped initiating dates. Today, I passed him by in cafeteria and pretended like didn't see him. I went to another section of the cafeteria room which is divided by the wall. Ad then about 5 mins later I see his friend walking by and passing the corner of section where I was sitting, then few mins later I saw him passing by and he pretended like he didn't see me. I thought he did it on purpose coz I don't know what was the point for him to walk there and go back to his spot after few minutes lol. Then later on, maybe couple hours ahead, I noticed 2 guys walking in the hallway, I've never talked to them or seen them in person but I think they were friends of his, as they passed me by they were looking at me like they knew about me. I thought wow kind of weird LOL. I'm just gonna wait for him to approach me or start a convo. I'll be as always calm and collected and I'll mention that he's been acting unusual lately.. and I'll apologize for calling him a dick. But I'm not gonna contact him until he does. If he wants me enough, he'll come back. I haven't done anything stupid whatsoever and I'm not a possessive type. I might have trust issues and insecurities that sometimes make me say things I don't really mean but then I can make it
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I get what you're saying. Your intuition is basically telling you that something is just different this time, now that he's not contacting you as much, even when it didn't necessarily mean anything in the past when he didn't. Like you said, the best thing you can do is move on & keep going about your business. BUT the key though is to make sure that you move on in his eyes AND in your own too. There's no use in making the one you like believe that you've moved on when you're at home going crazy over the situation & not moving on at all. Sounds like this guy is just wanting you to chase him & hey, if you're not up for the challenge, then you have every right to keep walking past all of them like you don't see them. It's 2010, & you're right, if he wants you, he needs to step it up & go after this situation with all confidence. Yes, while we can all listen to everyone's sob story of why they're afraid b/c of fear or past relationships gone wrong, people STILL don't want to hear all of that at the end of the day b/c regardless of why OR why he's not saying/doing something is besides the point at this point. All that DOES matter is that whatever his problem is or isn't with you, it's having negative effects on the progress you 2 were making. The reality isn't what we assume or WANT to think; the reality is in what IS. If I were you, I'd just assume the loss & keep going on about your business. You know that you didn't do him wrong in any kind of way so always remind yourself that it's his loss. He's probably mentioned you to a few of his friends; no you're not seeing things. He had his friends coincidentally pass by you on purpose. Why he had them do that is unknown & might always be. Still, him having all the people in the world pass by you is not enough or the reassurance that you need from HIM. We can analyze all day how he MIGHT feel or what his friends MIGHT know, but all that matters is that this guy hasn't yet stepped up to the plate. That is what you DO know for sure. So just take that & react from there.
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Right Krysreene7,


But the loss is of his not mine, it's not like I was competing to win him. He was the one to do it but maybe something went wrong and the best I could do for my own good is to continue with my own life. I really don't have anymore energy to analyze things what might be or what not. It's really how it is and how the situation is surrounding me. If he's not here, trying to reach me, I can simply assume that he doesn't want me. Why should I bother thinking what if.. I'm taking it the way I get it. I've been through even worse, I've experienced a lot of pain that took awhile to heal. But now when I look back and think about the guy I dated couple years ago, I'm thinking how could I really put up with all the pain and suffering. I wasn't having what I wanted to have. I wasn't treated the way I wanted and now I'm way stronger and can handle such situations. Of course, this guy is different, he hasn't done to me anything that would leave me crying every night. But with time it's very much possible to get over things. And when the right person comes, I'll know. It's not just based on my intuition that something was wrong, because logically, there was something different according the fact that he stopped chasing after me.

My life really wasn't bad without him, I'll survive and take it as experience. Especially when I have lots of guys chasing me down the road. I think I might need to take a closer look at some and try not to make anymore mistakes when dating. . .
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Posted by UrCleopatra
I mean he just changed out of nowhere and he says that he'd never change with me. I can't figure out if I've hurt him and thus he might be resenting for it but then why still act cute with me if he's hurt and do something to annoy me. I mean I know that was B.S when he said he didn't read my message at first. It's not just about doing a favor to me it's about him wanting to see me and spend time with me. I do have a feeling he might want me to chase him but where would that lead? Me being played around or treated right? I seriously don't get this. Boys need therapy! 😄



IMO you started the games, everything per your own statements was going well, communication was open and honest but then you listened to a friend and began to play hard to get games with him, he's just reacting to you from a point of he doesn't want to play games with you. He didn't change you did and when you changed he lost interest and began treating you with ambivalence, I can take it or leave it kind of attitude, in all actuality you help create all these problems and now your saying what's wrong with him, talk about confusing. You pushed him away with the games because you were scared of getting hurt, he reacted to those games with distance and ambivalence and then you blame him for how things are turning out. I don't believe he wanted to be chased, I believe you gave him no choice but to back up on you with the mind games you feel the distance and feel you needed to chase but really you needed to stop competing with him mentally and just be yourself like you were being in the beginning.

Maybe this is a huge sign post to stop listening to outside influences, maybe take the time to help yourself get over your own fears of getting hurt before getting involved with the next guy, love is risky but if you take your time, go slow, don't play these hard to get games the next time around you will have a better experience. Air signs are mental, we see games a mile away and if we don't feel like competing mentally with someone we just drop it and move on, once we determine you have changed directions, most Aquas change and lose interest.
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He's not like most aquas. This guy is really sweet, sensitive, affectionate, emotional, and sometimes can be clingy. If I didn't know his sign, I'd probably have confused him with cancer. Yes, he does have pride and sometimes think he's the best, especially what concerns soccer. Well, he truly is the best player in our school. We saw each other again today, but I avoided to get into eye contact with him. Later his friend came up to me and we were talking, then he mentioned aqua and told me that he is in a sports building having a game. It's weird his friends talk to me like there's still something would be going on between me and aqua. I'm sure he knows that we don't talk anymore. It's kind of weird that we completely don't talk to each other. I feel that all this misunderstanding we were having was not a big deal and might have been stressing for nothing. But I think I should just leave it like it is. I don't know if he'll come back and try to talk to me and work things out or not. But I'm sticking to my decision and I'm really not gonna do anything anymore.

And scartooth, no I didn't treat him like a common person. I just didn't wanna be like all the other girls who get on his neck by simply not chasing after him. At the very beginning I was interested in someone else and he knew it. However, that other person disappointed me and I, influenced by my friends, decided to give it a shot and hang out with him in a group. I'm not one of those girls like Victoria Bechham who think they're all that. I'm really easy going and simple. He bumped into my leo friend today, and she really annoys me that she's giving him an attitude because of things happening between me and him. I really think that it's not her business and she should stay out of it. But she just can't. She has to act cocky with him.
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Well I'm glad that you're finally saying enough is enough. You're right..what is the point in analyzing everything or even continuing to give this situation even more thought or energy? There IS no point. I'm sure you're a beautiful person, inside & out & hey, this might sound kind of corny BUT it's true: When someone doesn't want you or isn't down for the challenge of earning you, it's THEIR loss AND they are doing you a favor. His distance & non contact with you might be for a million reasons, some which you may never know. Who knows, he may not have told his friends what happend b/w you two OR his friends might know, BUT might actually know what it means to mind their own business. It's kind of a good thing that his friends aren't treating you any different. I'm sure his friends acting like nothing ever happend is more confusing for you, BUT think of it this way..what if his friends had've started bombarding you with questions, or constantly reminding you of what you're trying to move forward from, OR even worse, what if they would've started acting like you didn't exist just like he did? I'm sure, things would be worse if any of those things were the case. And hey, not everyone is just one sign. His sun sign is Aqua but other placements in his chart might have stronger influences over his personality. And even if his whole chart was Aqua, still...we can read about how Aquas supposedly are all day long but the truth is though that alot of other things factor in that make the person who they are. Screw that guy. The BEST gift you can give the NEXT guy is in knowing that the next one will have your full & undivided attention. Sure, this Aqua guy might not have been a big deal BUT hey, let's face it, it still does hurt when the 1 you've put even 1% of energy into, ends up disappointing you. Maybe this guy will realize later that he lost a good thing..maybe he won't. All that matters is that if AND when that realization comes, you won't be there to find out. Good luck girlie
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I'm back here because I realized I can't live like this, bothering myself.. what if.. and that maybe he was waiting for me to say something first 😢 It's sad to see him in school and not even talk with him. 2 days ago we passed each other by in school, He said what's up in that chilled tone, like nothing ever happened between us and I (wanna smack myself), didn't say anything back and kept walking like I didn't see him. Ugh. I cannot deal with this. I feel he's moving on and I don't know, I might be too late already but then can you really get over the person you liked over a week or two? His friends are talking to me and I'm thinking maybe I should ask his friends about him? :/ Or should I text him and ask him to meet and tell him I need to talk to him, or just find him alone in school and drag him to some private area n tell him how I feel? Aquariuses, what do you think? I'm truly driving myself insane.. I'm afraid I'll get into tears in front of his face.. but I'm just truly sick of the games, It either has to be yes or no. I can't live like this anymore. I really need your support, emotionally.. =/
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My sun is in pisces, moon in saggi, venus in aqua..



Ah. Pisces is the water sign that aquarius gets on with the most, relationship wise, though.

You know what you should do?

You should befriend him again. Like nothing awkward ever happened.

He'll know what's going on, yes, if there's anything aquas are it isn't dumb, but he'll play along anyway, grateful that nothing is being held against him.

Then be you, really. Sounds inane but you have to be the kind of female friend with a strong sexual aura about you as well.

What do I mean? Aquas find honesty sexy. Aquas find strong women with their own opinions sexy. They won't chase or follow through when females drop signs because of the possibility that they may have read the signals wrong.

Aquarius is that ONE sign that: they have to have things planned. In my experience, everytime I act on a whim it always blows up in my face.

So just be that sexy, strong, opinionated friend he has who happens to be a girl. The idea of sex with you will cross his mind sooner or later, meaning you're halfway through to the relationship stages with him.

The other part of the task is being a constant source of peace. Aquas will f**k like any other man, but if the woman is drama they'll leave in the most polite way imaginable lol

This part shouldn't be hard for a pisces chick.

Then, months down the line, when it's just you and him all alone, spring your feelings on him gently. The logic behind this is that he's at his most comfortable around you.

Chances are he'll be honest about his feelings, too.
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By the way the above is not advising you to f**k him lol

No, what I'm saying is you should make sure you're not in the friend zone by appearing as a potential lover.

Which you do by having strong opinions, being a peaceful person, having lots of ideas and interests (pisces people shouldn't have problems with this, which is why they get along with aquas) and just radiating that sexy confidence his way, really.

This advise will get you any man really, regardless of sign. Well, except for the traditionalists who think women should cook and clean and should stay in their place and the man should provide etc etc

Pisces people have that thing where they pick up on other people's emotions. You SHOULDN'T take offence or feel it has anything to do with you when he is down.

Aquas think of a million things, hold grudges etc so there's lots of sh** floating around in that head.

If you want his attention you have to fight for it (using your personality).

Aquas don't stay too long with lazy gurls.

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IMO every Pisces I know run hot/cold and it throws me completely off, I give up on them once I see the bipolar behavior. Pisces play too many games for Aqua's to stay around too long, URC did the same thing many people do with Aqua's she decided for whatever reason to play hard to get when she didn't have to do that and got dumped, the guy has moved on, he's not interested, yes he was interested before the games but she turned around and got into the hard to get game playing and it backfired, maybe if she comes clean about her own actions he will stop being so distant but as it stands now he's done.
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Well, I decided to text him today. I thought whatever, If he's gonna reject me , he will. It's not the end of the world. I just sent him simple hi how are you? message and he replied right away and asked about me.. I told him that he doesn't say hi to me, and he was like hahah I dont? I then, said sorry for the last time when I didn't say anything back to him in school because I had some crazy things going on .. and he replied it's fine, I can't be mad at you... then we basically talked of casual stuff. He asked me how I was n asked about small details I said. I was open, friendly, and flirty. He asked me what I was up too a few times and I told him I was going home n then idk since it's supposed to be stormy. (I wasn't really expecting for him to ask me out because he said it's always nice to be home 🙂 like I was asking him to take me out or something but I guess he thought I was giving him signals to ask me out). I don't know if this might spell out that he still has interest in me or he's just the typical aquarius who is friends with everyone..
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I'm back. Well, he hasn't contacted me and I haven't talked to him in school since either because I haven't seen him. It seemed that last time when we talked, he was affectionate towards me when he said he can't be mad at me... and then when he added sad face when I told him that I can't come to his game and the fact that he seemed to care about everything I said that day. But since then he never texted me or wrote me on facebook. What can be wrong here? It seemed to me that he still has feelings for me but if he does, wouldn't he contact me?
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