How far will Aquarius man take a lie?

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ToeDipper
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As some of you know, I've been having lots of trouble with a very distant Aqua man. We finally spoke today and got a LOT cleared up, which is good. However, something he said is REALLY nagging me. He went on and ON about how mindblowingly amazing he thinks I am, blah blah blah. He's still into me, no doubt. However, he said that right before he left Florida in late October to go home, we had a conversation in my living room where I "painted a circle around him" and basically told him we were together and what he could and couldn't do. That was a blatant lie because that conversation NEVER HAPPENED. However, he based his entire ensuing awful behavior on this imagined conversation. I told him that never happened and I never said those things, and he said he could play it like a movie in his head. He said thinking I wanted to box him in made him internally bolt and externally back off. I KNOW this conversation never happened because (a) the day after he left, he explicitly told me he wanted to make plans with me and essentially try to keep things going, and (b) About two weeks later, we had a phone conversation during which I told him if he wanted to date other people, that was up to him and I wouldn't tell him not to. However, I needed him to let me know because I didn't want to stay with him if he was going to sleep with someone else since I'm not wired that way. Most importantly, I told him RIGHT BEFORE that statement that I had meant to discuss this issue BEFORE he left but never had the chance. Why would I say something like that to him if I had already placed such an awful restriction on an Aqua?? I did my homework on Aquas and NEVER in a million years would I have dictated to him what he told me I said! I even purposely deflected when he just joked about what our "status" might be a few days earlier. My memory is like a steel trap and I'm not going crazy, Why would he make up an entire conversation like that? To justify backing off at 100mph and ignoring my calls/texts for six weeks? I've heard conflicting things about the Aqua penchant for lying, but this...it's a huge bucket of cold water on me. If I start to believe he intentionally made up that conversation to make me look like a tyrant bent on locking him down, what else will he lie about or invent?
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Mine has done the same things. Still does on super minor stuff that I just let go.

It's either that what you said to him was interpreted as an attempt to control, or it was said to manipulate you.

Pretty much anything you say that implies you won't accept certain behavior is generally construed as "change, or ELSE". You have to find ways to draw the line without making it sound like an ultimatum.

Or, he can't find any reason for his actions and is twisting whatever he can into something that's your fault.

I've been the victim of both tactics many times.
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again—

girl, you are with a man who don't care about you at all. A man would not lie to you if he doesn't want to lose you.

if you are going to keep taking it and taking it, it just shows how much doormatty you will be in a real relationship with him.

but why are you bothering with a man like that??

my ex who was an aqua sun, never hid anything from me, he just showed me one day, where he came from,

and i was shocked!!!!

it was like the episode from MAD MEN. where Don Draper showed his true beginnings.

people did not like it.

but it showed that he was willing to sacrifice that for his loved ones and not hide anything.

but if this man will keep lying to you, then he don't really care much for you.
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Posted by lisabethur8
again—

girl, you are with a man who don't care about you at all. A man would not lie to you if he doesn't want to lose you.

if you are going to keep taking it and taking it, it just shows how much doormatty you will be in a real relationship with him.

but why are you bothering with a man like that??

my ex who was an aqua sun, never hid anything from me, he just showed me one day, where he came from,

and i was shocked!!!!

it was like the episode from MAD MEN. where Don Draper showed his true beginnings.

people did not like it.

but it showed that he was willing to sacrifice that for his loved ones and not hide anything.

but if this man will keep lying to you, then he don't really care much for you.
It isn't hiding, it's usually a HUGE communication gap. I honestly believe that he believes what he says is what happened.
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Posted by sultrykitty
Posted by lisabethur8
again—

girl, you are with a man who don't care about you at all. A man would not lie to you if he doesn't want to lose you.

if you are going to keep taking it and taking it, it just shows how much doormatty you will be in a real relationship with him.

but why are you bothering with a man like that??

my ex who was an aqua sun, never hid anything from me, he just showed me one day, where he came from,

and i was shocked!!!!

it was like the episode from MAD MEN. where Don Draper showed his true beginnings.

people did not like it.

but it showed that he was willing to sacrifice that for his loved ones and not hide anything.

but if this man will keep lying to you, then he don't really care much for you.
It isn't hiding, it's usually a HUGE communication gap. I honestly believe that he believes what he says is what happened.
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then they're incompatible.

big communication problems are no go for a couple.
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lisabeth
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Posted by sultrykitty
You really should see our synasty and composite analysis. Both cafe astrology and Astro are kinda depressing.

I guess being stubborn gets you 20 years to life with an incompatible partner, lol.

I asked hom recently if he thought our relationship was weird, and he said absolutely not. It might not be like other relationships, but that's how he likes it. Gah.
lol you like challenge.

anything else will bore the hell out of you. 😛
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ToeDipper
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Posted by sultrykitty
Posted by lisabethur8
again—

girl, you are with a man who don't care about you at all. A man would not lie to you if he doesn't want to lose you.

if you are going to keep taking it and taking it, it just shows how much doormatty you will be in a real relationship with him.

but why are you bothering with a man like that??

my ex who was an aqua sun, never hid anything from me, he just showed me one day, where he came from,

and i was shocked!!!!

it was like the episode from MAD MEN. where Don Draper showed his true beginnings.

people did not like it.

but it showed that he was willing to sacrifice that for his loved ones and not hide anything.

but if this man will keep lying to you, then he don't really care much for you.
It isn't hiding, it's usually a HUGE communication gap. I honestly believe that he believes what he says is what happened.
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I'm not bothering with him, and we're not together. We (read, *I*) needed to get some things cleared up before I could be comfortable even going back to being just friends--which I think is where we are. I have no further interest in pursuing a romantic relationship with him, and I'm at peace with that. I'm just unsure about how close I even want to get to someone as a friend if they're doing something like this. sultrykitty raises a good point, and I was wondering the same thing...does he really believe in his head that the conversation really happened?? He's not a malicious person, but he's tried before to turn things he's done that have upset me back on me. "It's your choice to feel hurt" was a real winner with me about a month ago *rolling my eyes*.
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And I think these are some of the reasons many Aqua guys stay single. Their perceptions of how relationships work is reslly foreign to most people.

I think that's why they're drawn to quirky and very independent women; they figure if someone is quirky, and can take care of herself, his idiosyncrasies won't phase her.

But everyone wants to feel valued and special in a relationship, not just the Aqua. That's where it gets sticky.

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Posted by lisabethur8
again—

girl, you are with a man who don't care about you at all. A man would not lie to you if he doesn't want to lose you.

if you are going to keep taking it and taking it, it just shows how much doormatty you will be in a real relationship with him.

but why are you bothering with a man like that??

my ex who was an aqua sun, never hid anything from me, he just showed me one day, where he came from,

and i was shocked!!!!

it was like the episode from MAD MEN. where Don Draper showed his true beginnings.

people did not like it.

but it showed that he was willing to sacrifice that for his loved ones and not hide anything.

but if this man will keep lying to you, then he don't really care much for you.

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