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I knew this would never work! Help me!
Time for my final thought: He's either right, and you're too clingy for his taste. Or he's wrong and he's a player.
Either way, he doesn't view you as a potential partner (longterm or otherwise). He's gonna trample all over your feelings every chance he gets (intentionally or otherwise). So my advice to you is: do this to him.
If you're wearing THAT outfit while you're doing it, bonus points! Will make him see what a retard he is, and what he's missing out on.
There's no good guy or bad guy here. You both have incompatible dating style s and neither of you are willing to compromise for the sake of the other.
Give yourself props for sticking to your morals and give him respect on sticking to his. Wish him well in his future and close this chapter so you can embrace yours.
Onward and upward!
Give yourself props for sticking to your morals and give him respect on sticking to his. Wish him well in his future and close this chapter so you can embrace yours.
Onward and upward!
They are both good answers. Thanks.
true @Caplove, very true.
That Venus is Sag is tough huh?!
He honestly did not seem to understand what I was saying. "this is your sensitivity compared to my more hidden emotions"
For him exclusivity = intimacy
For me sex = intimacy
I could honestly date a guy for a year and if we weren't having sex, I would not get THAT attached emotionally. Once I have sex, oh boy, I am attached. I can't help it. I'd have gotten emotionally bonded to Hitler probably if we were having regular sex. Lol. for me sex is mind /body /heart. All in!
There could have been a compromise he if was happy to date without sex, but it seemed kinda crazy that he expected all the compromise to come from me. I wasn't trying to force him into exclusivity @bumboklatt - seriously - but I was saying "no exclusivity, no sex". That's not forcing anyone into anything, but just laying down my own boundaries.
Out of interest - Aquas - I understand he wanted to have his freedom to date / maybe even sleep with other girls at the same time as me; but how would he have felt if I did the same? How would he have reacted if my weekends were suddenly busy with other guys and I had no time to see him or return messages?
That Venus is Sag is tough huh?!
He honestly did not seem to understand what I was saying. "this is your sensitivity compared to my more hidden emotions"
For him exclusivity = intimacy
For me sex = intimacy
I could honestly date a guy for a year and if we weren't having sex, I would not get THAT attached emotionally. Once I have sex, oh boy, I am attached. I can't help it. I'd have gotten emotionally bonded to Hitler probably if we were having regular sex. Lol. for me sex is mind /body /heart. All in!
There could have been a compromise he if was happy to date without sex, but it seemed kinda crazy that he expected all the compromise to come from me. I wasn't trying to force him into exclusivity @bumboklatt - seriously - but I was saying "no exclusivity, no sex". That's not forcing anyone into anything, but just laying down my own boundaries.
Out of interest - Aquas - I understand he wanted to have his freedom to date / maybe even sleep with other girls at the same time as me; but how would he have felt if I did the same? How would he have reacted if my weekends were suddenly busy with other guys and I had no time to see him or return messages?
Posted by CaploveI don't ever see many sag venus men EVEN in the celebrity world married much.
It's his Venus in Sag. 😢 Imagine if you'd slept with him and gotten all attached. It's a blessing in disguise.
they're all earth, water and even air venus, and if they are fire venus, its leo and aries venus.
but sag venus is the wild card.
ohhhh I forgot!!!
David Bowie is sag venus but he has similar placements as my poor uncle.
and he's a good man!!! although David bowie got lucky after he played around.
it's like the venus that plays around in the early years and gets lucky and settles down later and happily from mid to old life.
and also there is Gavin Rossdale. sag venus.
but I don't see much Aqua sun/Sag venus men.
edit - I just saw david bowie's biography on this part...that he experimented with Bisexuality in his early years even with Mick Jagger ...but he said he is always HETEROSEXUAL.
do you think Sagittarius venus just likes to experiment? or is that just him personally?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie
Sexuality[edit]
Bowie declared himself gay in an interview with Michael Watts for a 1972 issue of Melody Maker,[245] coinciding with his campaign for stardom as Ziggy Stardust.[55] According to Buckley, "If Ziggy confused both his creator and his audience, a big part of that confusion centred on the topic of sexuality".[246] In a September 1976 interview with Playboy, Bowie said, "It's true—I am a bisexual. But I can't deny that I've used that fact very well. I suppose it's the best thing that ever happened to me".[247] According to his first wife, Angie, Bowie had a relationship with Mick Jagger.[248][249]
In a 1983 interview with Rolling Stone, Bowie said his public declaration of bisexuality was "the biggest mistake I ever made" and "I was always a closet heterosexual".[250] On other occasions, he said his interest in homosexual and bisexual culture had been more a product of the times and the situation in which he found himself than of his own feelings.[
David Bowie is sag venus but he has similar placements as my poor uncle.
and he's a good man!!! although David bowie got lucky after he played around.
it's like the venus that plays around in the early years and gets lucky and settles down later and happily from mid to old life.
and also there is Gavin Rossdale. sag venus.
but I don't see much Aqua sun/Sag venus men.
edit - I just saw david bowie's biography on this part...that he experimented with Bisexuality in his early years even with Mick Jagger ...but he said he is always HETEROSEXUAL.
do you think Sagittarius venus just likes to experiment? or is that just him personally?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie
Sexuality[edit]
Bowie declared himself gay in an interview with Michael Watts for a 1972 issue of Melody Maker,[245] coinciding with his campaign for stardom as Ziggy Stardust.[55] According to Buckley, "If Ziggy confused both his creator and his audience, a big part of that confusion centred on the topic of sexuality".[246] In a September 1976 interview with Playboy, Bowie said, "It's true—I am a bisexual. But I can't deny that I've used that fact very well. I suppose it's the best thing that ever happened to me".[247] According to his first wife, Angie, Bowie had a relationship with Mick Jagger.[248][249]
In a 1983 interview with Rolling Stone, Bowie said his public declaration of bisexuality was "the biggest mistake I ever made" and "I was always a closet heterosexual".[250] On other occasions, he said his interest in homosexual and bisexual culture had been more a product of the times and the situation in which he found himself than of his own feelings.[
everyone knows that Gavin Rossdale also experimented with bisexuality too!!
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Gavin_Rossdale
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Gavin_Rossdale
Posted by Caplovemaybe men with sag placements but not this Aqua female with sag bits. I don't share, ever.
Oh girl... I feel you. I was with one for over 2 years. My shortest relationship ever (his longest!!) 😆
I think it's good you laid the boundaries out, it's a way to sort out the ones that just aren't right for you. With all that Sag I have a feeling he would have been totally okay with you sleeping with others as well. It's like they sort of have this blase attitude when it comes to dating/sleeping with other people. They don't seem to get attached like a water venus/earth venus might. You need another water or earth Venus (Cap might be nice for you).
Op, you did good at sticking to your boundaries. The fact that he had issue with your request to take or keep sex off the table until you are exclusive should tell you all you need to know.
Posted by CaploveI was doing a topic on sag venus Nina Dobrev, and Ian Somerhalder is Sag sun...
It's his Venus in Sag. 😢 Imagine if you'd slept with him and gotten all attached. It's a blessing in disguise.
but I think the venuses are too WRONG....
now Ian Somerhalder is with another water venus, and actually married her.
I think that Nina Dobrev needs to find another fire venus OR Air venus man.
Posted by MondayMorningsex is not the only way to form emotional attachment though.
true @Caplove, very true.
That Venus is Sag is tough huh?!
He honestly did not seem to understand what I was saying. "this is your sensitivity compared to my more hidden emotions"
For him exclusivity = intimacy
For me sex = intimacy
I could honestly date a guy for a year and if we weren't having sex, I would not get THAT attached emotionally. Once I have sex, oh boy, I am attached. I can't help it. I'd have gotten emotionally bonded to Hitler probably if we were having regular sex. Lol. for me sex is mind /body /heart. All in!
There could have been a compromise he if was happy to date without sex, but it seemed kinda crazy that he expected all the compromise to come from me. I wasn't trying to force him into exclusivity @bumboklatt - seriously - but I was saying "no exclusivity, no sex". That's not forcing anyone into anything, but just laying down my own boundaries.
Out of interest - Aquas - I understand he wanted to have his freedom to date / maybe even sleep with other girls at the same time as me; but how would he have felt if I did the same? How would he have reacted if my weekends were suddenly busy with other guys and I had no time to see him or return messages?
some couples can't have sex, (maybe disabled) and they form an emotional bond.
sex is good and all, but deep down, emotional bonding is where it's at.
I remember that topic where Donald Trump and Marla Maples had the BEST SEX ever...
so obviously they bonded, emotionally through that star studded sex!!
and even married...but it was short term...
I really like what Marla Maples said here..... about TRump..
how she saw his VULNERABILITY. 🙂
despite his talk talk talk. lol
so obviously they bonded, emotionally through that star studded sex!!
and even married...but it was short term...
I really like what Marla Maples said here..... about TRump..
how she saw his VULNERABILITY. 🙂
despite his talk talk talk. lol
Posted by CaplovePosted by lisabethur8It's funny you wrote that. I was looking their charts up this am and saw that too! That Sag Venus.. grr.. They were wrong! He's Venus in Scorpio.. i think. He was probably super unsettled w/ her Sagi bits. I get it though, now that I've experienced it. It's just damned uncomfortable, the unsettled energy. Yeah, air venus for her or another Venus in Sag might be really good.Posted by CaploveI was doing a topic on sag venus Nina Dobrev, and Ian Somerhalder is Sag sun...
It's his Venus in Sag. 😢 Imagine if you'd slept with him and gotten all attached. It's a blessing in disguise.
but I think the venuses are too WRONG....
now Ian Somerhalder is with another water venus, and actually married her.
I think that Nina Dobrev needs to find another fire venus OR Air venus man.
His wife has Venus in Cancer.
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yup you're right, and she has aries mars trining that sag venus. it's too much for him.
low key for him, Cancer venus/Aqua mars on Nikki Reed.
Posted by MondayMorningAnd you deserve it ALL! Not leftovers...
They are both good answers. Thanks.
There is MAN looking for you! Good luck!
Hugs!
Absolutely, I just know myself and am not capable of having regular sex without forming an emotional attachment
U did the right thing by letting him know your boundaries & he did the right thing by not pretending he was ok with that
Neither one of you is "right." Neither one of you is "wrong." The real question is, whether or not you are right or wrong for each other.
Posted by bumboklattPosted by lisabethur8Posted by MondayMorningsex is not the only way to form emotional attachment though.
true @Caplove, very true.
That Venus is Sag is tough huh?!
He honestly did not seem to understand what I was saying. "this is your sensitivity compared to my more hidden emotions"
For him exclusivity = intimacy
For me sex = intimacy
I could honestly date a guy for a year and if we weren't having sex, I would not get THAT attached emotionally. Once I have sex, oh boy, I am attached. I can't help it. I'd have gotten emotionally bonded to Hitler probably if we were having regular sex. Lol. for me sex is mind /body /heart. All in!
There could have been a compromise he if was happy to date without sex, but it seemed kinda crazy that he expected all the compromise to come from me. I wasn't trying to force him into exclusivity @bumboklatt - seriously - but I was saying "no exclusivity, no sex". That's not forcing anyone into anything, but just laying down my own boundaries.
Out of interest - Aquas - I understand he wanted to have his freedom to date / maybe even sleep with other girls at the same time as me; but how would he have felt if I did the same? How would he have reacted if my weekends were suddenly busy with other guys and I had no time to see him or return messages?
some couples can't have sex, (maybe disabled) and they form an emotional bond.
sex is good and all, but deep down, emotional bonding is where it's at.
Exactly. That's why aqua and scorps are square each other
The philosophies are not even close. Aqua want intellectual freedom , scorps want emotional commitment
he will never feel as deeply as you and you will never understand his wild ideals
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yup!!!!
me and my husband both NEED intellectual AND emotional commitment.
'that's why I married him and he married me. lol 😆
i'll tell you one thing though, my husband HATES boring chicks.
he's dated beautiful and BORING and can't stand them.
then I told him, i'm boring too!!! why you with me?
"cuase you're so much FUN!!"
😆 I guess I "de-stress" him. make him tickle.
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OP, so think....
why an Aquarius man would want you, desire you?
because you TICKLE him. and in a good way. intellectually and you make him smile and feel good.
Men want to feel good and DE-stress and be happy.
he's dated beautiful and BORING and can't stand them.
then I told him, i'm boring too!!! why you with me?
"cuase you're so much FUN!!"
😆 I guess I "de-stress" him. make him tickle.
edit
OP, so think....
why an Aquarius man would want you, desire you?
because you TICKLE him. and in a good way. intellectually and you make him smile and feel good.
Men want to feel good and DE-stress and be happy.
Posted by lisabethur8The way you put it sounds like only one of you could be married! But luckily you both did! LolPosted by bumboklattPosted by lisabethur8Posted by MondayMorningsex is not the only way to form emotional attachment though.
true @Caplove, very true.
That Venus is Sag is tough huh?!
He honestly did not seem to understand what I was saying. "this is your sensitivity compared to my more hidden emotions"
For him exclusivity = intimacy
For me sex = intimacy
I could honestly date a guy for a year and if we weren't having sex, I would not get THAT attached emotionally. Once I have sex, oh boy, I am attached. I can't help it. I'd have gotten emotionally bonded to Hitler probably if we were having regular sex. Lol. for me sex is mind /body /heart. All in!
There could have been a compromise he if was happy to date without sex, but it seemed kinda crazy that he expected all the compromise to come from me. I wasn't trying to force him into exclusivity @bumboklatt - seriously - but I was saying "no exclusivity, no sex". That's not forcing anyone into anything, but just laying down my own boundaries.
Out of interest - Aquas - I understand he wanted to have his freedom to date / maybe even sleep with other girls at the same time as me; but how would he have felt if I did the same? How would he have reacted if my weekends were suddenly busy with other guys and I had no time to see him or return messages?
some couples can't have sex, (maybe disabled) and they form an emotional bond.
sex is good and all, but deep down, emotional bonding is where it's at.
Exactly. That's why aqua and scorps are square each other
The philosophies are not even close. Aqua want intellectual freedom , scorps want emotional commitment
he will never feel as deeply as you and you will never understand his wild ideals
yup!!!!
me and my husband both NEED intellectual AND emotional commitment.
'that's why I married him and he married me. lol 😆
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I am sure the sag planets are lovely. My son is all Sag and he is the sweetest kid in the world. Tiny little love of my life and a real humanitarian. So sociable and interested in people!
I do agree this guy and I were just basically incompatible.
He was messaging me today, fishing for me to change my mind. I am not going to change my mind!
I do agree this guy and I were just basically incompatible.
He was messaging me today, fishing for me to change my mind. I am not going to change my mind!
@Nepturanus
I know it would have been a really fun relationship. I think he lied that with me he was mystified and never bored, and I definitely brought the "heat" he was missing....
BUT
If a guy I was dating / having a sexual relationship with was dating and potentially having a sexual relationship with others, then it would bring out the worst in me - suspicion, jealousy, paranoia - and I don't want to feel that way. I want to feel special and respected - not like "one of many", so it would have killed my attraction.
Not to mention health wise - do you wanna have sex with someone who is having sex with unknown other people? Eeew!!!
It's a shame, but if he was not willing to toss aside the other girls, he doesn't get me
I know it would have been a really fun relationship. I think he lied that with me he was mystified and never bored, and I definitely brought the "heat" he was missing....
BUT
If a guy I was dating / having a sexual relationship with was dating and potentially having a sexual relationship with others, then it would bring out the worst in me - suspicion, jealousy, paranoia - and I don't want to feel that way. I want to feel special and respected - not like "one of many", so it would have killed my attraction.
Not to mention health wise - do you wanna have sex with someone who is having sex with unknown other people? Eeew!!!
It's a shame, but if he was not willing to toss aside the other girls, he doesn't get me
@nepturanus
If you understand him, I'd love to hear what's in his head! I can't get over the fact that he'd rather give me up than commit to like TWO weeks or whatever of not seeing other people. He isn't giving us a shot?! I actually found it really insulting!
If you understand him, I'd love to hear what's in his head! I can't get over the fact that he'd rather give me up than commit to like TWO weeks or whatever of not seeing other people. He isn't giving us a shot?! I actually found it really insulting!
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