The arrival of the Magi

Has anyone experienced an epiphany at some point in their life? (and well, I don't mean in the sense of three wise men showing up at your door, though wouldn't that be every women's idea of a divine manifestation..lol. I mean in the sense of a very sudden moment in your life where things were brought into perfect clarity so that your perception of some aspect of your reality was changed from that time onward. What do you think lead up to that moment, i.e. was it a progression of experiences, or how would you explain it? How did it change your life and your actions?

Oh yeah, a few times. It's like BAMM something hits you and suddenly you have such clarity. I'd expect that to happen many times in ones life.

If I get married, I'm sure I'll get divorced


thats because you wouldnt make the effort to make it work....

"It's like BAMM something hits you and suddenly you have such clarity."

Yeah I have had that happen a few times in the last month - seams like a really fast progression

That is such a pisces type question to ask as well! And funny that Glailea and pisces should both have had these experiences!

To answer the question...I haven't consciously had one of those moments but I guess I must have undergone certain transitions and shifts in my outlook as I don't see things in the same way as I did, say, 10 years ago.

Yeah eliza me think so too



Ya..... i mean in order to make a relationship work you have to be willing to make the effort....Im amazed how people these days get a divorce for pathetic reasons... its heartbreaking and the kids have to suffer... I mean why do u even bother to get married when you know your not willing to compromise and put your spouse?s needs above yours—? And what about the kids— How can you be sooo selfish and only think about yourself—?

I think you can compromise and live with any man whose not ABUSIVE ( ofcourse if hes abusive then u cant live with him? but little differences don?t matter...we are all different people and why do you expect your spouse to understand you 100% when you don?t even undertand yourself— like I don?t even know why I do what I do at times?.im a Mystery to myself?..?..

I won't be having kids

Did the docs tell you that u cant have kids— 🙂

there are ways around that...


i hate the idea of having kids without gettin married...

Are you volunteering?

LOL... ahhhh not right now 😛😛... but seriously i have had loads of guy friends who thought they will never get married... its natural to feel that way when your hurt or dont trust women but then you meet a great person and your willling to spend the rest of your life with her 🙂

she'll think I am boring.


Branh0913, you know thats the Fear of almost every person i've met.....they all think they are dead boring.. but thats not true.....noone is that boring and theres a girl out their who would treasure every single moment she spends with you.. your a great guy 🙂....

Im NOT naive branh0913, just coz i know that theres someone out there whose your PERFECT match makes me naive— LOL.... ur funny ....

i dont talk BS... and why do i even care...its your life... do whatever

"I mean why do u even bother to get married when you know your not willing to compromise and put your spouse?s needs above yours—?"

putting your spouse's needs above yours...i think that is kind of the problem with marriages actually. i think a lot of people lose themselves within the marriage b/c they put so much effort into the other person's need and wants. too many people join a partnership and lose their own identity and end up giving up "their" life for someone else. i don't think a person should ever give up their identity or individualism.

marriage is so overrated nowadays... it's not the same as it used to be.

prime..i agree that both parties should put equal energy and effort into the marriage...i just think that a person should not lose one's identity in the process, which i think happens a lot of the time

Marriage is very essential in life ... human beings just don't know how to develop strong unions. This is why most marriages and steady relationships. I'm in full agreement with Eliza, she isn't naive nor is she idealistic. She and I are very like minded and we both understand that without interpersonal relationships, you become cold as ice (my thread "Frozen", explains this ... well, my opinion anyway).

Regardless to anyones opinion, I think that's a horrible way to be. Having "frozen emotions doesn't make life easier ... it's makes it worse. Anyone who says different is truly lying to themselves.

Oh yeah,

For the sake of arguement ... I would love to be a wife and mother when life sees fit 😉 If a man would love me enoguh and find me to be a worthy enough partner ... *** giggles *** then that would be nice 🙂 Marriage in general is more of a partnership then anything else -- it requires love (most people fail to see that in order for a marriage to actually last ... there has to be love, no matter what), compromise and dedecation (one person can't do all the emtional and physical work) Plus, with a stable partner, there can be major productive with in a marriage.

However, very few people establish this because they don't know how ......

Awwww, thank you Vanessa 🙂