Aries and trust

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I'm the same Curious!! I have trust issues, even though in my heart of hearts I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and may act like it on the outside, inside I'm going "yeah F'n right!" It's weird. I'm not good at discernment of trust yet. I'm trying my hardest, and a lot of people would say, just do it, but if they only knew it's not that easy. Being burned before has a really lasting effect on some people, and even trying to hard to work thru it takes quite a while to overcome. In those times, it's hard to know when someone is bullsh****ng you or not, b/c you're always going to think they are! If they're not the ones who put it there.
Now if you don't suffer those issues, then I think you, as an Aries man/woman, KNOW when you're being bullsh***ed and when you're not! It just comes w/ the ram territory. At that moment, there is no acting like you believe them, b/c it's going to be written all over your face and body, and may come out you're mouth!
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Posted by ChocolateAries
I'm the same Curious!! I have trust issues, even though in my heart of hearts I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and may act like it on the outside, inside I'm going "yeah F'n right!" It's weird. I'm not good at discernment of trust yet. I'm trying my hardest, and a lot of people would say, just do it, but if they only knew it's not that easy. Being burned before has a really lasting effect on some people, and even trying to hard to work thru it takes quite a while to overcome. In those times, it's hard to know when someone is bullsh****ng you or not, b/c you're always going to think they are! If they're not the ones who put it there.
Now if you don't suffer those issues, then I think you, as an Aries man/woman, KNOW when you're being bullsh***ed and when you're not! It just comes w/ the ram territory. At that moment, there is no acting like you believe them, b/c it's going to be written all over your face and body, and may come out you're mouth!


Ugh. Who are you telling? I'm still doing the inner work of disposing of paranoia and being cynical to anyone with similar characteristics to the person/people who broke my trust! It's not fair to them to be so cold towards them, especially when they did nothing wrong to me. But at the same time, remembering how much the evil deed that severed trust the last time hurt me, those feelings subtly rear its ugly head, when I wanted it out my house a long time ago! (so to speak).
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Posted by AriesGirl74
I am toooooo trusting.

I say what I mean and I mean what I say so I will always assume others will be the same.

What a horrible life to lead if you had such bad trust issues that you almost felt that everyone was out to get you/trip you up/take the pizz..


I used to be the same way, and I actually envy you for still possessing that quality, because when I did, I was the most enjoyable person to be around, and then I turned into a guy I didn't even recognize! This cold, and unemotional treetrunker. Lately I've been getting back to a good place filled with love and light (ohm) but I know I won't be that same carefree, trusting man I used to be...all a part of growing up I guess!
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Posted by Curiousram
For me personally i have trust issues and paranoia big time, not sure if its my cancer talking or aries but yeah. That probably isn't a sign issue but a person issue. Honestly Aries usually give people the benefit of doubt i.e being Naive.


Same here...and it's a little but of both if you ask me (a person and a sign issue). With my Libra rising, I tend to see both sides of the situation yea, but whatever side gets me more emotionally charged tends to take over. Whether the outcome is positive or negative, however, is up to me (at least that's what I'm starting to realize). My Virgo moon makes me criticize and over analyze, which doesn't help in this case! Lol
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I'm trusting until someone proves otherwise.

Or my gut picks up some bullshit. Those are people I wouldn't trust without even knowing them. They give off that vibe.


But let's use an example that applies to the OP.

I have a Scorp friend that I'm generally okay with. But I knew from the beginning that if something crossed him funny, legit or not, he'd turn on me in a heartbeat. But since we were both good overall, it's not an issue.

However, I did see what he did to a mutual friend of ours over something trivial and petty. She had a cancer scare and he had the audacity to ignore her and continue to treat her like shit all over the stupid tiff. What was it over? How he treated her and her husband and they basically spoke up and called him out on it- they were sick and tired of him treating them like shit.

Things haven't been the same since. His reaction, while a little too extreme for the situation, didn't surprise me. When the mutual friends talked to me about what happened, I wasn't surprised at all by how he turned on them. It was the vibe I picked up when I first got to know him a few years ago.

That said, my small bit of trust I had for him went out the window. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. Nevermind he uses me like no other (this became really bad after he got into a relationship), to which I have also grown sick of. However, I know if I voice my concerns about his bullshit, he'll turn on me too.

Can't trust an individual who is so narrow minded that they refuse to see their faults, get petty when someone calls them out on bad behavior, and continues to use people for personal gains with no consideration toward anyone around them.
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I'm suspicious of everyone LOL. But it's my Scorpio moon at work there. It keeps my Aries giving in check. Over the years I have learnt to listen to my gut instinct, which I used to ignore. And got burned badly as a result.



What's it like being a scorpio moon?



Emotionally intense, sometimes very overwhelming..tendency to be obsessive over minute details.
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That's a water moon thing generally haha.
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I'm trusting until someone proves otherwise.

Or my gut picks up some bullshit. Those are people I wouldn't trust without even knowing them. They give off that vibe.


But let's use an example that applies to the OP.

I have a Scorp friend that I'm generally okay with. But I knew from the beginning that if something crossed him funny, legit or not, he'd turn on me in a heartbeat. But since we were both good overall, it's not an issue.

However, I did see what he did to a mutual friend of ours over something trivial and petty. She had a cancer scare and he had the audacity to ignore her and continue to treat her like shit all over the stupid tiff. What was it over? How he treated her and her husband and they basically spoke up and called him out on it- they were sick and tired of him treating them like shit.

Things haven't been the same since. His reaction, while a little too extreme for the situation, didn't surprise me. When the mutual friends talked to me about what happened, I wasn't surprised at all by how he turned on them. It was the vibe I picked up when I first got to know him a few years ago.

That said, my small bit of trust I had for him went out the window. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. Nevermind he uses me like no other (this became really bad after he got into a relationship), to which I have also grown sick of. However, I know if I voice my concerns about his bullshit, he'll turn on me too.

Can't trust an individual who is so narrow minded that they refuse to see their faults, get petty when someone calls them out on bad behavior, and continues to use people for personal gains with no consideration toward anyone around them.



This doesn't apply to me because I don't turn in anybody. That's not how am. So don't assume anything. I don't cut anyone of or do shit to anyone unless they did something to me first, I don't behave like that. Once again, all scorpios aren't the same. Or water signs in general. I'm sorry that you met a scorpio that was like that, but that has nothing to do with me.
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This doesn't apply to me because I don't turn in anybody. That's not how am. So don't assume anything. I don't cut anyone of or do shit to anyone unless they did something to me first, I don't behave like that. Once again, all scorpios aren't the same. Or water signs in general. I'm sorry that you met a scorpio that was like that, but that has nothing to do with me.



Your reaction alone screams the obvious. But since you need things spelled out-

1. You are a Scorpio.

2. I am an Aries.

3. You asked about trust with Aries.

4. We all know you're having issues with an Aries "friend" and trust was brought up in a previous post.

(Are we following along still?)

5. I decided to share an anecdote about my Scorpio friend and what he did to screw up my trust with him. Because, you know, it's an Aries/Scorp scenario.


The fact you took it as a personal attack that you're JUST LIKE this guy speaks volumes about what's really going on with you. That, or your comprehension of why it was shared is stunted.

Please do the Aries forum a favor, either try to glean something from what we're trying to tell you, or gtfo. All you've done is come here, expecting validation and excuses to be made so you are absolved of responsibility. I mean really, you get "well this was my experience when my trust was violated" and your response is "NUH UH. THAT'S NOT ME. YOU'RE SO WRONG." *facepalm*

Oh, and fun fact. You ARE very similar to my friend. In the other thread, you admitted to going off on the deep end over something stupidly trivial and held it against him. My friend's the same way.

OMGZ REVELATION.
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This doesn't apply to me because I don't turn in anybody. That's not how am. So don't assume anything. I don't cut anyone of or do shit to anyone unless they did something to me first, I don't behave like that. Once again, all scorpios aren't the same. Or water signs in general. I'm sorry that you met a scorpio that was like that, but that has nothing to do with me.



Your reaction alone screams the obvious. But since you need things spelled out-

1. You are a Scorpio.

2. I am an Aries.

3. You asked about trust with Aries.

4. We all know you're having issues with an Aries "friend" and trust was brought up in a previous post.

(Are we following along still?)

5. I decided to share an anecdote about my Scorpio friend and what he did to screw up my trust with him. Because, you know, it's an Aries/Scorp scenario.


The fact you took it as a personal attack that you're JUST LIKE this guy speaks volumes about what's really going on with you. That, or your comprehension of why it was shared is stunted.

Please do the Aries forum a favor, either try to glean something from what we're trying to tell you, or gtfo. All you've done is come here, expecting validation and excuses to be made so you are absolved of responsibility. I mean really, you get "well this was my experience when my trust was violated" and your response is "NUH UH. THAT'S NOT ME. YOU'RE SO WRONG." *facepalm*

Oh, and fun fact. You ARE very similar to my friend. In the other thread, you admitted to going off on the deep end over something stupidly trivial and held it against him. My friend's the same way.

OMGZ REVELATION.
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you're saying it like I'm suppose to take full responsibility for what is going on. Yes, I'm going to say what I didn't and did not do. I admitted that I took part in it. How many times do I have to say that. When people post, it's usually bits and pieces. It's not usually the whole story. So, you don't know what's really going on. I don't need validation from you or anyone else. It's for me to get your opinion on what you think about it. You've done that.
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No, I think you need to take responsibility for what you're accountable for.

If you've done that, fine.

However, the behavior that you HAVE admitted to is still ridiculous. "Yes, I screwed up and accused him of lying. ...BUT..."

^absolving yourself of responsibility. You admitted to fucking up, then flipped it and essentially said he brought it upon himself, for reasons which you didn't name- just left at a vague, "well, it wasn't just gossip, it's some other things he did as well."

Okay, but the fact remains that you allowed rumors to base a judgement off someone you called a friend. Had it only been personal experiences you based this off of, fine. But you didn't- you started off your explanation based off of the rumor mill.

What is this, high school?

Maybe you should consider dropping the "well my bad behavior is justified because THEY did x,y,z" mentality. No. Just no.
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No, I think you need to take responsibility for what you're accountable for.

If you've done that, fine.

However, the behavior that you HAVE admitted to is still ridiculous. "Yes, I screwed up and accused him of lying. ...BUT..."

^absolving yourself of responsibility. You admitted to fucking up, then flipped it and essentially said he brought it upon himself, for reasons which you didn't name- just left at a vague, "well, it wasn't just gossip, it's some other things he did as well."

Okay, but the fact remains that you allowed rumors to base a judgement off someone you called a friend. Had it only been personal experiences you based this off of, fine. But you didn't- you started off your explanation based off of the rumor mill.

What is this, high school?

Maybe you should consider dropping the "well my bad behavior is justified because THEY did x,y,z" mentality. No. Just no.



Exactly, I get what you're saying. That was my main reason for my post. To take responsibility for what I've done. "What is this high school?" Is what I use to say to him when I heard the rumors. I know I overreacted. I feel bad for letting people come in between us. What's so crazy is that, I'm actually going through drama with the people that was spreading the rumors. One is a female that he denied. The other is a guy that use to talk trash about him. When they would talk trash about my aries friend I would tell him. Now, we don't speak and I'm in drama with them. That's what had me stumped. If he isn't here, why is this chick still causing drama. Him and I, don't even speak. If you and him speak, then why are you still causing drama? My aries told me that it's because she don't like me. It has nothing to do with him, but before he came along, she use to speak to me. It all comes from her. She use to tell her friend that he was bothering her and he keeps messaging her. So, this bothered me. Why would she say he bothers her when I saw her chasing behind him. You don't give someone your number or facebook if they're bothering you. I guess she was trying to cover it up because she was in a relationship.

It was just a whole big ass mess. I'm not going to let anyone down a friend of mines and talk dirty about him because you're trying to save your image. That's not right.