celticlioness
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Aries Man - your thoughts welcome!
I'm 43 with 2 children and he is 39, never married nor had children.
You said he said something upsetting to you, and tried to smooth it out by hugging and holding you etc that same night.
He could be trying to give that issue time to blow over.
He could be trying to give that issue time to blow over.
hmmm, could be - the only Aries man I know very well is my brother in law (love him, he's one of my benchmarks for the "real man") and now that you say it I can see he would be upset with himself if he thought he had upset someone else. I wasn't actually upset (understanding is the word that people usually use to describe me LOL) but maybe he did think I could have been upset? He has just texted me (wow, such a surprise) and ended with a see you soon, which isn't his usual response, so maybe he is interested after all, its just so confusing to me, i'm so straight and too the point i'm not used to aloof and distant, and thought Aries men were action takers! feck this leo sun that I have :-)
Posted by heroic_guy
You said he said something upsetting to you, and tried to smooth it out by hugging and holding you etc that same night.
He could be trying to give that issue time to blow over.
It could be that Aquarius in both his moon and mars signs are conflicting with his fiery zeal to start a relationship. That screams independence and space and time to do his own thing. So he can be hot and cold all the time. I have a Sag moon so I can empathize that I enjoy my personal freedom from a partner and am reluctant to settle down.
Oh, he is that Starlover.
He is very interested.
He is also very nervous, and unsure. It is the nervous and unsure that has him off his game. We don't do nervous and unsure well at all.
He didn't respond to your texts because he doesn't want to seem over the top. Of course, he is, and he really isn't fooling anyone, but he is trying.
Relax, give him a poke now and then. "Hey,when you taking me out again?!?!?" sort of thing. Push him just a bit, tap dance around him a bit.
He needs to understand and know that you are actually interested, and not just screwing with him. He is very interested, he just isn't sure of the situation, as of yet.
He is also very nervous, and unsure. It is the nervous and unsure that has him off his game. We don't do nervous and unsure well at all.
He didn't respond to your texts because he doesn't want to seem over the top. Of course, he is, and he really isn't fooling anyone, but he is trying.
Relax, give him a poke now and then. "Hey,when you taking me out again?!?!?" sort of thing. Push him just a bit, tap dance around him a bit.
He needs to understand and know that you are actually interested, and not just screwing with him. He is very interested, he just isn't sure of the situation, as of yet.
Ah you are a Leo.
I can see why you expect so much now. Well right now I guess you have to relax and understand everything in this world takes its own time.
He isn't late on responding to your text messages or whatever, you are looking at the clock and looking at the phone and expecting everything to be on your time.
I like how you were pondering all this and discussing it, and then boom, he responded.
Case closed.
It isn't him, it is mostly you.
I can see why you expect so much now. Well right now I guess you have to relax and understand everything in this world takes its own time.
He isn't late on responding to your text messages or whatever, you are looking at the clock and looking at the phone and expecting everything to be on your time.
I like how you were pondering all this and discussing it, and then boom, he responded.
Case closed.
It isn't him, it is mostly you.
Posted by starlover
Oh dear! I have experienced two aries irish men! Dont ask...okay? 😄
LOL, now you know, I really must ask... please do tell :-) anyone who has insight into both Irish and Aries needs to spill....
Posted by dofacc
He is very interested.
He is also very nervous, and unsure. It is the nervous and unsure that has him off his game. We don't do nervous and unsure well at all.
He didn't respond to your texts because he doesn't want to seem over the top. Of course, he is, and he really isn't fooling anyone, but he is trying.
Relax, give him a poke now and then. "Hey,when you taking me out again?!?!?" sort of thing. Push him just a bit, tap dance around him a bit.
He needs to understand and know that you are actually interested, and not just screwing with him. He is very interested, he just isn't sure of the situation, as of yet.
Can I ask what makes you think he is interested. He has responded to the two texts when they were the pokey kind...
Posted by heroic_guy
Ah you are a Leo.
I can see why you expect so much now. Well right now I guess you have to relax and understand everything in this world takes its own time.
He isn't late on responding to your text messages or whatever, you are looking at the clock and looking at the phone and expecting everything to be on your time.
I like how you were pondering all this and discussing it, and then boom, he responded.
Case closed.
It isn't him, it is mostly you.
Hey! Thanks! But I don't think I expect much (is it too much to expect a reply to a question?), i texted him 3 times post meetings (and then didn't continue to text when no response was forthcoming) - each with weeks between each meeting, him showing keenness and us kinda organising to meet up - I can't do spur of the moment with two children so have to have some notice and this is what those 3 follow up texts were but its not a case of him being late on responding, there was then no response - at all, not just a day or two, nada, nothing, and then acting as if we had only spoken yesterday when we do meet again! I understand now I shouldn't have texted at all, but i had thought we had made loose arrangements each time and needed to firm up in order to get child minding organised. Its been 10 months of this same stuff, him acting all keen, reminding me of things I said, people I walked home with, there is always a reference to our last meeting, which could have been 4-6 weeks between each time. I have learnt a lot in the last year through various dates/short relationships, so not too bothered if he doesn't text back now, wasn't actually expecting it - what I really want to try to understand is his actions when with me and then inaction when we are not together. He is kindof shy. this past weekend each time a guy approached me at the club we were in he was there beside me instantly, kindof territorial. I do feel as if he feels like I am his, but if that is the case then I'd prefer to be his with a relationship rather than just whenever we bump into each other. I'm pretty relaxed about it all now, just really trying to understand that i'm not mad or something or interepreting his actions the wrong way.
Posted by Friction
It could be that Aquarius in both his moon and mars signs are conflicting with his fiery zeal to start a relationship. That screams independence and space and time to do his own thing. So he can be hot and cold all the time. I have a Sag moon so I can empathize that I enjoy my personal freedom from a partner and am reluctant to settle down.
Sadly to say in the early days I did investigate his aqua side so understand his detachment! I've a sag rising myself so am very independent, maybe he just doesn't realise this yet :-)
Can I ask what makes you think he is interested. He has responded to the two texts when they were the pokey kind...
I am basing my conclusion on his behavior. He didn't just more or less shrug off his social gaffe. Apparently, a real attempt at making amends was made.
Also, he seems to be making real efforts to make physical contact. Physical contact is extremely important to an Aries. Basically, Don't Touch Me Unless You MEAN It!!!
He also isn't going meh to your verbal jousting. As I say, he is trying very hard to restrain himself, but a decent jab just isn't something he will be able to let pass, unless he simply didn't give a damn about you.
Posted by dofacc
Can I ask what makes you think he is interested. He has responded to the two texts when they were the pokey kind...
I am basing my conclusion on his behavior. He didn't just more or less shrug off his social gaffe. Apparently, a real attempt at making amends was made.
Also, he seems to be making real efforts to make physical contact. Physical contact is extremely important to an Aries. Basically, Don't Touch Me Unless You MEAN It!!!
He also isn't going meh to your verbal jousting. As I say, he is trying very hard to restrain himself, but a decent jab just isn't something he will be able to let pass, unless he simply didn't give a damn about you.click to expand
Interesting! yes he was making amends so to speak, nicely done too and was then holding on for dear life! He always makes physical contact when we are together and for the last few days we have been bumping texts off each other - in other words he is now responding to texts - they are simple and jokey pokey - i wish he would stop restraining himself :-) So when you say he won't let a decent jab pass - what do you mean by this? as in a good but pointed text/verbal joust? I'm thinking i'm just going to text him later and ask when he is going to pluck up the courage to ask me out, is this too much for his soul or will it help his un-restrain himself :-)
Posted by starlover
I dont think you expect so much either!!! AND its not YOU it is deffo him, for sure!!
Will pm you later celtic.....be prepared!! lol
x
can't wait!
Yes indeed, telling him to get off his duff and ask you out seems to me to be perfect. Heck, you might even consider saying exactly that.
He will see your verbal jousting as a bit of a challenge, you see. He won't be able to just let it slide by without some sort of remark.
The thing to watch for is when/if he moves past the jousting stage. If he starts having serious conversations with you, he is all your's.
He will see your verbal jousting as a bit of a challenge, you see. He won't be able to just let it slide by without some sort of remark.
The thing to watch for is when/if he moves past the jousting stage. If he starts having serious conversations with you, he is all your's.
Posted by celticlioness
...myself and Aries man have been somewhat involved since February, not as a couple
...usually end the night with kisses
...Have slept together once and he has asked me to come home with him again but I said no
...In the beginning when I texted him ...he mostly didn't respond, even after we had said we would go out on a date
...I haven't texted him or seen him in about 6 weeks now.
...Initially I was hurt by his attitude when we first met, as I am very attracted
...this past weekend we met again
...So I followed up with a text the next day just saying thanks for the hug, then the following day inviting him for dinner
...He hasn't responded.
...But I have to say I am confused to hell with this guy and feel also that I am back to square one with him and my feelings for him.
...He is Aries Sun, Aquarius Moon and Mars - any thoughts on what he may be thinking?
Leo friends of mine always love to pick the flower off the ground and play, he loves me, he loves me not. I do it too when I have the time and I am in the middle of a field of flowers. I love romance and love and all that jazz.
As for dating an Aries, yes there can be a lot of awkward hot and cool moments, at least if you are dating me, as I can get moody or aloof under certain situations, and yes there are ways someone who isn't an Aries to help encourage the fun-loving side of an Aries to come out more.
From what I have read, he likes you in all sorts of ways. What stops you from being with him full time is hard to tell, most likely he is busy with his own world. I understand you don't want necessarily anything from him, but I was responding to the original items I read in the Original Post about why wouldn't he respond to your date invite via text message.
My gruffly worded response, I apologize for. I so don't understand text messaging. And I have harbored a lot of ill-conceived notions about what emotional concerns get wrapped up within them. So I don't have much of any advice or understanding to offer when I hear about a text-message issue. Let's just say I don't understand what more to say other than wait for the response, when a friend is discussing that same thing about text messages. Some people have slower reaction speeds to incoming text messages etc etc, it usually never means the person dislikes you, and upon my gruffly said post on this topic, he di
Posted by bluemoon9043834Posted by starlover
Oh dear! I have experienced two aries irish men! Dont ask...okay? 😄
lmfao!click to expand
I LOL'd too - its bad enough he's Irish without Aries being thrown into the mix - or vice versa :-)
Posted by bluemoon9043834Posted by heroic_guy
Ah you are a Leo.
I can see why you expect so much now. Well right now I guess you have to relax and understand everything in this world takes its own time.
He isn't late on responding to your text messages or whatever, you are looking at the clock and looking at the phone and expecting everything to be on your time.
I like how you were pondering all this and discussing it, and then boom, he responded.
Case closed.
It isn't him, it is mostly you.
Are Leo women really like this?click to expand
No - we are not - the common misconception is that we get all emotional and stalkerish - I don't know any Leo women who do this. They usually do what I do, directly ask for what they want - a no will be taking on board and we move on. No response (as in my case) just gets a shrug and move on - no emotional texts, plea, stalking incidents. Even when there is deep attraction, which is what I have. He didn't respond, I accepted and moved on (doesn't mean I'm not curious)then bam, i meet him again and he does the same stuff again, so I ask for what I want, he doesn't deliver, I accept it (whether its what I want or not) and continue with life. The trouble with this Aries guy is he goes around this cycle the whole time.
Posted by bluemoon9043834Posted by celticlioness
I have learnt a lot in the last year through various dates/short relationships, so not too bothered if he doesn't text back now, wasn't actually expecting it - what I really want to try to understand is his actions when with me and then inaction when we are not together. He is kindof shy. this past weekend each time a guy approached me at the club we were in he was there beside me instantly, kindof territorial.
It sounds like he likes you. His inaction could be a lot of things... Yeah, he is going to block other guys from getting to you because you are his. The best thing that you can do at this point is to talk to him. Talking really helps and it stimulates growth in relationships.click to expand
I would love to just sit on our own and talk, cause I feel we could have a really good one and get things out into the open, the problem is we are always surrounded by people when we do meet, and get interrupted a lot - but yet when I have asked him to meet there is no reponse. This is why I am giving one last go at getting him on his own, just have to work up the courage to send the text as I'm fearing another non-response - thankfully my Leo bravery will overcome that fear, even though we have been in communication this week more that ever. He blocks other guys big time, I'll be standing talking to the girls when a guy will come over to me and next thing there he is right beside me - the guy tends to back off immediately, my Aries is well known in our small town and extremely good looking so other guys kindof say if "aries" is in there then no chance for me. He always references the guy and asks things along the lines of was I interested in him, or do I want his number (whipping out his phone as if to pass the guys number along but getting no further than that before putting it back in his pocket) like he's testing me or something. I did have one guy ask if "aries" is off the scene would he have a chance, its like everyone things i am his too.
Posted by heroic_guyPosted by celticlioness
...myself and Aries man have been somewhat involved since February, not as a couple
...usually end the night with kisses
...Have slept together once and he has asked me to come home with him again but I said no
...In the beginning when I texted him ...he mostly didn't respond, even after we had said we would go out on a date
...I haven't texted him or seen him in about 6 weeks now.
...Initially I was hurt by his attitude when we first met, as I am very attracted
...this past weekend we met again
...So I followed up with a text the next day just saying thanks for the hug, then the following day inviting him for dinner
...He hasn't responded.
...But I have to say I am confused to hell with this guy and feel also that I am back to square one with him and my feelings for him.
...He is Aries Sun, Aquarius Moon and Mars - any thoughts on what he may be thinking?
click to expand
Leo friends of mine always love to pick the flower off the ground and play, he loves me, he loves me not. I do it too when I have the time and I am in the middle of a field of flowers. I love romance and love and all that jazz.
As for dating an Aries, yes there can be a lot of awkward hot and cool moments, at least if you are dating me, as I can get moody or aloof under certain situations, and yes there are ways someone who isn't an Aries to help encourage the fun-loving side of an Aries to come out more.
From what I have read, he likes you in all sorts of ways. What stops you from being with him full time is hard to tell, most likely he is busy with his own world. I understand you don't want necessarily anything from him, but I was responding to the original items I read in the Original Post about why wouldn't he respond to your date invite via text message.
My gruffly worded response, I apologize for. I so don't understand text messaging. And I have harbored a lot of ill-conceived notions about what emotional concerns get wrapped up within them. So I don't have much of any advice or understanding to offer when I hear about a text-message issue. Let's just say I don't understand what more to say other than wait for the response, when a friend is discussing that same thing about text messages. Some people have slower reaction speeds to incoming text messages etc etc, it usual
No need to apologise Heroic Guy, I understood your message and appreciated it! Thanks for that, I think you were trying to say Leo you want what you want and want it now, just relax :-) Well that's true but its the circular thing, hot/cold as you say, with this guy which keeps pulling me back in when I've backed out - gracefully I might add. I do know he likes me in lots of ways which is what does make it hard for me to step away when he becomes distant again, but I do it anyway. He is busy, very busy, and also independent, freedom seeker - I am busy too - certainly too busy to play games like this.
So Heroic_Guy, do you think I should give it one more chance and just text him and ask him when he is going to get off his duff and work up the courage to ask me out? Unfortunately the only way I can do this is via text message as I won't see him otherwise for another few weeks if not longer.
So Heroic_Guy, do you think I should give it one more chance and just text him and ask him when he is going to get off his duff and work up the courage to ask me out? Unfortunately the only way I can do this is via text message as I won't see him otherwise for another few weeks if not longer.
The funny thing about this thread is i thought the responses I would get would be more along the lines of - no he is not interested othewise he would be going for it, telling me to forget the whole thing! I had forgotten the whole thing since august, hadn't seen him, deliberitly didnt go to where he would be whenever I went out, no texts, nothing, even had a short intense relationship with another guy - when I met "aries" out last weekend i wasn't expecting him to be there and when he was I certainly didn't expect him to do his usual stuff but more intensely this time, thought he had moved on from that too.
Thanks for all the input - its much appreciated.
Thanks for all the input - its much appreciated.
Hi Bluemoon,
Here is our charts - love to hear your insight!
Mine
Sun Leo
AscendantSagittarius
Moon Cancer
Mercury Cancer
Venus Leo
Mars Cancer
Jupiter Virgo
Saturn Aries
Uranus Virgo
Neptune Scorpio
Pluto Virgo
Lilith Gemini
Asc nodeAries 12.09
His
Sun Aries
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Pisces
Venus Aries
Mars Aquarius
Jupiter Aquarius
Saturn Gemini
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Sagittarius
Asc nodeCapricorn
Here is our charts - love to hear your insight!
Mine
Sun Leo
AscendantSagittarius
Moon Cancer
Mercury Cancer
Venus Leo
Mars Cancer
Jupiter Virgo
Saturn Aries
Uranus Virgo
Neptune Scorpio
Pluto Virgo
Lilith Gemini
Asc nodeAries 12.09
His
Sun Aries
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Pisces
Venus Aries
Mars Aquarius
Jupiter Aquarius
Saturn Gemini
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Sagittarius
Asc nodeCapricorn
Posted by impresswhoPosted by celticlionessPosted by bluemoon9043834Posted by heroic_guy
Ah you are a Leo.
I can see why you expect so much now. Well right now I guess you have to relax and understand everything in this world takes its own time.
He isn't late on responding to your text messages or whatever, you are looking at the clock and looking at the phone and expecting everything to be on your time.
I like how you were pondering all this and discussing it, and then boom, he responded.
Case closed.
It isn't him, it is mostly you.
Are Leo women really like this?
No - we are not - the common misconception is that we get all emotional and stalkerish - I don't know any Leo women who do this. They usually do what I do, directly ask for what they want - a no will be taking on board and we move on. No response (as in my case) just gets a shrug and move on - no emotional texts, plea, stalking incidents. Even when there is deep attraction, which is what I have. He didn't respond, I accepted and moved on (doesn't mean I'm not curious)then bam, i meet him again and he does the same stuff again, so I ask for what I want, he doesn't deliver, I accept it (whether its what I want or not) and continue with life. The trouble with this Aries guy is he goes around this cycle the whole time.
I don't find Leo women to be stalker-ish. Actually they will drop a person whom they do not value with no hesitation.
I say let this man work and let him come to you. The Aries men are right??_.I like dofacc idea. Tell him what's up and not in a nice way. Be stern and stand your ground.
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LOL Impressyou, I thought if you found your way to this thread you would tell me to forget about him! So if you can give another bit of advice, how do i do it in not a nice way - unfortunately that's my way and yes you are completly right, i have been too nice - its a failing unless i am completly p'eed off and then i'll get rotten - so i just don't really know how to do this in a "not nice" way while still showing i'm interested!
well bit the bullet and texted him last night to tell him to get his finger out and get brave enough to ask me out - so no reply as yet, and i'm not actually expecting one - just glad i gave it one last chance! moving on....
So what do you think, if he doesn't reply after that no-one can say he is interested surely :-)
So what do you think, if he doesn't reply after that no-one can say he is interested surely :-)
Posted by celticlioness
well bit the bullet and texted him last night to tell him to get his finger out and get brave enough to ask me out - so no reply as yet, and i'm not actually expecting one - just glad i gave it one last chance! moving on....
So what do you think, if he doesn't reply after that no-one can say he is interested surely :-)
Yeah, this is exactly what you needed to do. He needs to "Put up or Shut up!" It is no up to him to demonstrate if he is actually interested, or just jerking you around.
I am getting a bit uncomfortable with his behavior. It certainly isn't the more or less direct line I would have expected from him. That is the not responding to texts, etc. Just not the go for broke attitude you/I would like to see.
Hmm, lots of gambling metaphors in me today.....
^"now up to him," but you already knew that, didn't you.
Hi guys, ^^^^ these are the types of responses I actually expected to get when I first posted so was surprised at the ones I did get. But yes, I have moved on (heart is following head at the moment so it slow going!) and have arranged a date for Friday night with a nice man, Virgo! Obviously something seriously going on with this man somewhere and I got caught up in it and confused by his "games", i'll leave it alone now though I seriously feel like sending him a text telling him exactly what I think of him - but I won't :-) that would be tooooo leo'ish of me!!
Celtic sorry to hear you are still caught up in him..I so know what you are going thru...remember we had exactly the same thing going on??
I hate to say this because its generalizing but I think men that are not married by 39 are commitment phobes that just want to sleep around.
Think George Clooney (although he was married briefly)he is the perfect example.
Yes there are exceptions like just not having met the right one etc...
But I think if he's not taking you out somethings amiss..I struggled with it too...but it was confusing because he was the one that said, "Do you want go out sometime?" then came back a month later and said "This is a fresh start" "Do you want to go out?" so he asked it twice!! Weird...
I have since learned that men will ask that as a "feeler" question to gauge if you are interested or not. But the women will read this as asking for a date...which I still think it is...I don't ask my girlfriend to lunch by saying, "Do you want to go to lunch sometime?" as a feeler question, I mean what it says.
Hot Irish Guys behavior is very confusing, but I know your story and I would give up..I had to and it took a long time.
Everyone on here can say move on and I hate that...when you really LIKE someone that is easier said than done.
But here it is almost a year later and I am finally over it. I would prefer to be with him though and that also makes it hard because when I go out with somone else its fun but somethings missing and I'm not as attracted. Someone else will come along eventually that equals him!!
Starlover is right (((hugs))) from me too..
I hate to say this because its generalizing but I think men that are not married by 39 are commitment phobes that just want to sleep around.
Think George Clooney (although he was married briefly)he is the perfect example.
Yes there are exceptions like just not having met the right one etc...
But I think if he's not taking you out somethings amiss..I struggled with it too...but it was confusing because he was the one that said, "Do you want go out sometime?" then came back a month later and said "This is a fresh start" "Do you want to go out?" so he asked it twice!! Weird...
I have since learned that men will ask that as a "feeler" question to gauge if you are interested or not. But the women will read this as asking for a date...which I still think it is...I don't ask my girlfriend to lunch by saying, "Do you want to go to lunch sometime?" as a feeler question, I mean what it says.
Hot Irish Guys behavior is very confusing, but I know your story and I would give up..I had to and it took a long time.
Everyone on here can say move on and I hate that...when you really LIKE someone that is easier said than done.
But here it is almost a year later and I am finally over it. I would prefer to be with him though and that also makes it hard because when I go out with somone else its fun but somethings missing and I'm not as attracted. Someone else will come along eventually that equals him!!
Starlover is right (((hugs))) from me too..
Posted by sunshine222
Celtic sorry to hear you are still caught up in him..I so know what you are going thru...remember we had exactly the same thing going on??
I hate to say this because its generalizing but I think men that are not married by 39 are commitment phobes that just want to sleep around.
Think George Clooney (although he was married briefly)he is the perfect example.
Yes there are exceptions like just not having met the right one etc...
But I think if he's not taking you out somethings amiss..I struggled with it too...but it was confusing because he was the one that said, "Do you want go out sometime?" then came back a month later and said "This is a fresh start" "Do you want to go out?" so he asked it twice!! Weird...
I have since learned that men will ask that as a "feeler" question to gauge if you are interested or not. But the women will read this as asking for a date...which I still think it is...I don't ask my girlfriend to lunch by saying, "Do you want to go to lunch sometime?" as a feeler question, I mean what it says.
Hot Irish Guys behavior is very confusing, but I know your story and I would give up..I had to and it took a long time.
Everyone on here can say move on and I hate that...when you really LIKE someone that is easier said than done.
But here it is almost a year later and I am finally over it. I would prefer to be with him though and that also makes it hard because when I go out with somone else its fun but somethings missing and I'm not as attracted. Someone else will come along eventually that equals him!!
Starlover is right (((hugs))) from me too..
Thanks Sunshine, I'll pm you later x
Posted by bluemoon9043834Posted by celticlioness
Hi Bluemoon,
Here is our charts - love to hear your insight!
Mine
Sun Leo
AscendantSagittarius
Moon Cancer
Mercury Cancer
Venus Leo
Mars Cancer
Jupiter Virgo
Saturn Aries
Uranus Virgo
Neptune Scorpio
Pluto Virgo
Lilith Gemini
Asc nodeAries 12.09
His
Sun Aries
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Pisces
Venus Aries
Mars Aquarius
Jupiter Aquarius
Saturn Gemini
Uranus Libra
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Sagittarius
Asc nodeCapricorn
Can you also put the degrees? 🙂click to expand
Okey Dokey :-)
Me
Sun Leo 1.51
Moon Cancer 22.59
Mercury Cancer 17.09
Venus Leo 11.19
Mars Cancer 22.13
Jupiter Virgo 6.42
Saturn Aries 25.24
Uranus Virgo 26.15
Neptune Scorpio 23.48 R
Pluto Virgo 20.57
Lilith Gemini 4.08
Asc node Aries 12.09
Him
Sun Aries 9.36
Moon Aquarius 18.41
Mercury Pisces 15.27
Venus Aries 6.58
Mars Aquarius 2.32
Jupiter Aquarius 6.41
Saturn Gemini 15.27
Uranus Libra 21.31 R
Neptune Sagittarius 7.19 R
Pluto Libra 2.54 R
Lilith Sagittarius 14.36
Asc node Capricorn 12.49
Posted by impresswhoPosted by celticlioness
Hi guys, ^^^^ these are the types of responses I actually expected to get when I first posted so was surprised at the ones I did get. But yes, I have moved on (heart is following head at the moment so it slow going!) and have arranged a date for Friday night with a nice man, Virgo! Obviously something seriously going on with this man somewhere and I got caught up in it and confused by his "games", i'll leave it alone now though I seriously feel like sending him a text telling him exactly what I think of him - but I won't :-) that would be tooooo leo'ish of me!!
LOL @ leo-ish. Who gives a fuck if it's leo-ish?click to expand
LOL, you're right, maybe I will so!
Posted by impresswho
Ms. Lioness
What is it about this guy that you like so much?
Hi Impressyou! Firstly, I like how we are together, it all feels so comfortable, we can just sit and chat about stuff, sometimes agreeing sometimes not, but not afraid to disagree IYKWIM, we are happy to do the debate without getting personal or taking it personally — it's very rare I find someone with whom I can talk on a subject and when we don't agree that person wants to keep up the talk — I can be very passionate about things and generally others don't understand that and can't handle it — the only other person I get to get into it with is my scorpy best friend — and him and I go at it good. The Aries as a person, I like that he is hardworking — that is extremely important to me, very kind to others, very friendly, cares about the wider world and people in it, he does volunteer work as much as he can, I love that he loves animals and the outdoors. I like that he is adventurous and can decide to do something on the spur of the moment. I like that he takes care of himself and knows how to dress for the occasion and that he can dance, I like that he has lots of friends and makes sure to talk to everybody. I like that his house is a mess and he doesn't care. I like his mind. And ok I shall say it, I am incredibly attracted to his looks and body (and with a venus in Leo let me tell you that attraction is difficult to control!!), however I have known him from sight for 5 years now and the attraction only started when we first spoke and not on first sight of his fabulous body all that time ago ??_
It seems the only thing I don't like about him is his approach to romance and relationships which I don't understand.
Posted by impresswho
Have you ever told him that you don't understand his approach to romance and relationships?
Hey, no I haven't — when we meet its usually a few weeks after something happens between us and at that stage I??ve —moved?? on and put him back into friend category so I never expect anything to happen between us, then he takes me by surprise — as in I think he has done the same thing, put me into friend category that is, so I don't expect him to then swoop when I least expect it - so therefore its not a subject I feel i need to raise as when we first meet i don't feel like we are in that romantic zone. Last time we met he did act differently in that he was close to me most of the time rather than some of the time, and came over to me whenever another man approached, he also asked when I would be free (but didn't follow up) and hinted at dinner in my house (his kitchen is getting done), so at that time I thought things were different for him and he was being direct about what he wanted now, therefore no need to bring up the way he acted in the past — in fact I usually forget about it until it happens again, which just brings the memory back. Also he did reply to texts after that meeting (which he doesn't do generally) and in one stated that we would have to talk about something soon, he also finished the texts with see you soon, so I was thinking things were going along at their own pace and moving forward but then nothing - silence!
thanks Impressyou, you are very beautiful too - inside and out, love the blonde look! I will have fun and have arranged my date for Friday night :-) If he comes around later and I'm still in the mood (likely!) then we shall see what happens! In the meantime i will leave him to climb his mountains and rescue lost people...
Agreed he is a fool if he loses his chance with her. She is very attractive,these guys need a slap..jeez
Could it be something else going on here? Like maybe he feels she is acting hot and cold? From the space they had recently?? So he's not sure where he stands? Idk...maybe she likes him so much...she is anxious and he's just slow—
Thats what happened to me...I got a little pushy when I should have been patient.Just trying to figure it out.
As much as I think you should date others while someone is dragging their feet...its risky. What if he sees you out and about with someone else and thinks "She met someone else" and backs off.
Think about it..if you saw someone with another girl wouldn't you give up, figuring he met someone else, and its not like you can come right out and ask him..
Could it be something else going on here? Like maybe he feels she is acting hot and cold? From the space they had recently?? So he's not sure where he stands? Idk...maybe she likes him so much...she is anxious and he's just slow—
Thats what happened to me...I got a little pushy when I should have been patient.Just trying to figure it out.
As much as I think you should date others while someone is dragging their feet...its risky. What if he sees you out and about with someone else and thinks "She met someone else" and backs off.
Think about it..if you saw someone with another girl wouldn't you give up, figuring he met someone else, and its not like you can come right out and ask him..
Posted by sunshine222
Agreed he is a fool if he loses his chance with her. She is very attractive,these guys need a slap..jeez
Could it be something else going on here? Like maybe he feels she is acting hot and cold? From the space they had recently?? So he's not sure where he stands? Idk...maybe she likes him so much...she is anxious and he's just slow—
Thats what happened to me...I got a little pushy when I should have been patient.Just trying to figure it out.
As much as I think you should date others while someone is dragging their feet...its risky. What if he sees you out and about with someone else and thinks "She met someone else" and backs off.
Think about it..if you saw someone with another girl wouldn't you give up, figuring he met someone else, and its not like you can come right out and ask him..
Hi Sunshine, given that this has been hot/cold between us for over 10 months now I obviously have analysed both his and my behaviour to death in this time :-) What you say here is something that has crossed my mind — and I have thought that he is maybe not sure of me either, in that when we do meet out I will never approach him or even look in his direction, he always has to approach me — and as I am overtly watching him I can see him watching me and he appears to wait his chance to come talk to me, then (as I am thinking he isn't interested) I will do nothing to show him that I am interested in him, until he then swoops in with his kiss. So I am —cold?? as it were, but then I become —hot?? and give him a follow up text within a few days to which he then usually doesn't respond and then I go silent on him — so —cold??. Then he doesn't see me out for weeks on end, of course he hasn't got a clue where I am or what I am doing — but he does know that I know exactly where he will be so maybe he thinks I am actually avoiding him. I am pretty sure if I was to go out every weekend to where he is and meet him, then at this stage we would be well into a relationship together. I'm not really anxious about it though, I just accept and switch off.
While I have been on a few dates and have had a brief relationship with another guy I tend not to bring it home as it where, our town in small so I don't —date?? in my area and won't until I am sure of any relationship that I may come to be in, so he won't see me out
Posted by starlover
The lovely lady could wait forever for him to step up to the plate.....I would give him a sell by date...if then he doesnt make a move, i would date others
..Celtic, maybe you give yourself a time limit on this, then really cut the ties with him...
...remember he is an irish man..we both know what that means, where romance is concerned?
Lol Starlover, yes the Irish Man - sigh!
I am going to put a time limit on this, but have decided, as of last evening that right now I'm not ready to give up on him - I will get on with my life obviously and not obsess or anything, but will just keep up with light hearted interaction now and again, however when/if I do happen to meet him out in the future i plan on being more open with him and physical with him - to explain - last time we met out once he had made initial greetings with me, I did then go over to him a couple of times, he seemed to like this and as I said earlier he was more demonstrative towards me, also I touched him a few times, just hand on his waist, ruffled his hair - so i'm figuring that caused him to be so different towards me later. Maybe he needed this obvious show of interest rather than the aloofness i was showing previously. But, there will be a time limit - giving it till the new year :-) so a few more weeks and we shall see how it plays out.
I got a text off him last night to say he was Training.
Posted by bluemoon9043834Posted by celticlioness
Okey Dokey :-)
Me
Sun Leo 1.51
Moon Cancer 22.59
Mercury Cancer 17.09
Venus Leo 11.19
Mars Cancer 22.13
Jupiter Virgo 6.42
Saturn Aries 25.24
Uranus Virgo 26.15
Neptune Scorpio 23.48 R
Pluto Virgo 20.57
Lilith Gemini 4.08
Asc node Aries 12.09
Him
Sun Aries 9.36
Moon Aquarius 18.41
Mercury Pisces 15.27
Venus Aries 6.58
Mars Aquarius 2.32
Jupiter Aquarius 6.41
Saturn Gemini 15.27
Uranus Libra 21.31 R
Neptune Sagittarius 7.19 R
Pluto Libra 2.54 R
Lilith Sagittarius 14.36
Asc node Capricorn 12.49
Thank you. His Mars is in opposition with your Venus, which doesn't make your pairing easy to come together. This creates a dynamic where you 2 do not come together on easy terms, but you are attracted to one another. It is helped by your Venus trine his Venus. This makes it so you both approach love in the similar manner. However, he is Venus in Aries.. he approaches it directly with confidence and passion. Your Venus in Leo embraces drama and needs it in a love relationship. Your Mercury trines his Mercury, so you two share the same ideals, thoughts, and ideas. You are able to communicate with one another easily. Your Moon trines his Mercury, so you two are able to talk about things with one another you do not share with others about. Your North Node conjuncts his Sun, which is interesting. Shows that he is some teacher for you? Someone who is a leader in your life growth and spiritual development.
Basically, what you have to tell him is "Shit or get off the pot" though. 🙂
Something that sticks about his chart that gives insight into his behavior more...
His Pluto is in opposition of his Sun. He can expect the worst of all scenarios in life. He may feel that he is setting himself up for failure. Not satisfied with accomplishments in life.
His Pluto is in opposition of his Venus. Hot/cold behavior. Power is intricately laced with love. Love of power.click to expand
Hi bluemoon, thank you for this and all your hard work.
Isn't this astrology stuff amazing? The way you describe the dynamic between the two of us above is spot on. The mercury part — yes we have got the same ideals etc. which is what makes it such an easy comfortable time we have together and yes, we would talk about things (whe
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Hi bluemoon, thank you for this and all your hard work.
Isn't this astrology stuff amazing? The way you describe the dynamic between the two of us above is spot on. The mercury part — yes we have got the same ideals etc. which is what makes it such an easy comfortable time we have together and yes, we would talk about things (when we get the chance) that I wouldn't with anyone else, simply because I know I can with him. But while I am more concerned with my immediate environment, his concern for the wider world is a lesson I take on board from him — the teaching element? I do feel that he expects the worst to happen though — while I am incredibly optimistic and expect only the best to happen :-~) And in fact I do think that he thinks he may be setting himself up for a fall if he gets too involved with me — this is possibly what makes him back off his natural venus in aries confident and passionate approach — so I have felt he mentally and physically holds himself back from me.
Hi bluemoon, thank you for this and all your hard work.
Isn't this astrology stuff amazing? The way you describe the dynamic between the two of us above is spot on. The mercury part — yes we have got the same ideals etc. which is what makes it such an easy comfortable time we have together and yes, we would talk about things (when we get the chance) that I wouldn't with anyone else, simply because I know I can with him. But while I am more concerned with my immediate environment, his concern for the wider world is a lesson I take on board from him — the teaching element? I do feel that he expects the worst to happen though — while I am incredibly optimistic and expect only the best to happen :-~) And in fact I do think that he thinks he may be setting himself up for a fall if he gets too involved with me — this is possibly what makes him back off his natural venus in aries confident and passionate approach — so I have felt he mentally and physically holds himself back from me.
"I'm not really anxious about it though, I just accept and switch off."
Just wanted to clarify what i said here - in case it sounds like I don't really care :-) While i accept and switch off - from the situation - i don't mean that I'm not upset, sad or disappointed, i accept that I am these things and accept what happened (again) but know I have to switch off, move on and I do with the upset inside me.
Thanks for all the input everyone - by trying to understand his behaviour and actions through this thread I have come to understand a lot of my own also, its all very interesting :-)
Just wanted to clarify what i said here - in case it sounds like I don't really care :-) While i accept and switch off - from the situation - i don't mean that I'm not upset, sad or disappointed, i accept that I am these things and accept what happened (again) but know I have to switch off, move on and I do with the upset inside me.
Thanks for all the input everyone - by trying to understand his behaviour and actions through this thread I have come to understand a lot of my own also, its all very interesting :-)
Maybe anxious was the wrong word. With me it was like this:
I was so glad to have finally met someone decent that I actually felt chemistry with,(what's out there nowdays is pathetic)that I was eager to get something going with him...which may come across as "anxious" in my case.
And they fact that he said "Do you want to go out" made me think "ok allright already, lets go out"
But I just couldn't wait any longer and gave up.
Lioness...we may just have to eventually realize (maybe not with you, you might still have a chance) that these are the guys that got away or were not really the ones for us.
I still think it shouldn't take more than a year to have a "real date"
He seemed to like me and that felt real, but maybe I was being strung along?? I know for a fact he had no one else.
Whatever...I so hope it works out for you!!!!!
I was so glad to have finally met someone decent that I actually felt chemistry with,(what's out there nowdays is pathetic)that I was eager to get something going with him...which may come across as "anxious" in my case.
And they fact that he said "Do you want to go out" made me think "ok allright already, lets go out"
But I just couldn't wait any longer and gave up.
Lioness...we may just have to eventually realize (maybe not with you, you might still have a chance) that these are the guys that got away or were not really the ones for us.
I still think it shouldn't take more than a year to have a "real date"
He seemed to like me and that felt real, but maybe I was being strung along?? I know for a fact he had no one else.
Whatever...I so hope it works out for you!!!!!
Hey sunshine, yeah i know what you mean - so while i'm not anxious about it as I am sure I will meet someone (the eternal optimist) and do get my fair share of attention, its difficult when you meet someone you like and they don't reciprocate or do but just teasingly so. So i'm getting ready shortly for my date tonight and will just leave this - if anything develops that's great and what I would like, but if not I'll chalk it up to experience - and definitely won't allow him to act in the same manner the next time I do meet him.
Hey Starlover! Date was fine for the first hour and then I was just getting bored i'm afraid :-) He was nice enough but not chemistry.
He is a Virgo!
He is a Virgo!
Oh forgot to add -
Aries man texted me last night - apologised for not replying to texts and asked how I was - I just said Grand, going to bed now talk to you soon.
Aries man texted me last night - apologised for not replying to texts and asked how I was - I just said Grand, going to bed now talk to you soon.
Posted by starlover
KNEW he was a virgo (i was told lol)
Good reply to the Aries....keep it up !! xx
:-)
Posted by starlover
KNEW he was a virgo (i was told lol)
Good reply to the Aries....keep it up !! xx
ps does the Aries text you when he has been drinking by any chance?
🙂click to expand
Not necessarily, most of the actual replies I have received from him have been daytime, when he is working. Only really got 2 texts when he has had a drink - he doesn't drink so much either, which is refreshing in an Irish man :-)
Hi guys, another update and would welcome you're thoughts.
i was out today with my girlfriends and bringing them up to speed on the situation, they thought i should text him tonight as he was communicating more with me this last couple of weeks and see would he like to meet, as he would be out and I could then get to talk to him face to face, so I sent him this text around 8p.m. (with reservations!): "hi, i'm in Dublin and will be heading back around 11, would you like to meet" - No reply as I expected, that is until 2a.m. He said "Yes would like to, but lets take things slow. Fast is sore"
i was out today with my girlfriends and bringing them up to speed on the situation, they thought i should text him tonight as he was communicating more with me this last couple of weeks and see would he like to meet, as he would be out and I could then get to talk to him face to face, so I sent him this text around 8p.m. (with reservations!): "hi, i'm in Dublin and will be heading back around 11, would you like to meet" - No reply as I expected, that is until 2a.m. He said "Yes would like to, but lets take things slow. Fast is sore"
I have Pluto opp Venus and it doesn't translate as hot or cold although it could be interpreted as such. It's about power in the relationship and I have to have the upper hand. Also, a relationship has to be very intense, almost compulsive for me to think there is really something with a potential partner. Anything less is just, eh.
From his last text, and from what I know of Leo female Aries male relationships, BACK OFF! Give him time to come to you. I lived with a good Leo friend and watched her demolish relationships by getting too needy too fast -Ok, not saying you are doing this but something to be aware of.
An Aries male needs some space and time to miss you. Can't stress that enough and he won't be on the same clock if he's busy with whatever else is going on in his life, it doesn't mean he has forgotten you. Aries and Leos make great partners BUT the timing has to be right and he doesn't want to lie or play games. As fire signs, we have to give and receive pretty much equally or we're out yet sometimes life throws a curve. Could be work, stress, family issues or doubts. As an Aries I make a conscious decision before I leap in. Leo's tend to lead with their wonderfully generous hearts. If he was on the same page (wanting a serious relationship since you are older with kids) then he would do so. I'm thinking he's a bit hesitant since you do have responsibilities that he is considering if he's willing to take on. You are not totally free and easy so he's considering that. Remember, men (of all signs) pretty much view getting into a relationship as a bit of a drag since it entails so much responsibility for them. Women tend to just see the hearts and flowers, guys view as, "Possible marriage, financial stresses, emotional up-keep"....
So, take it slow and let him come to his own decision. You've shown plenty of interest already, the ball is in his court. If you need to date other guys in the meantime,do so. It's probably best that you do rather than giving too much to someone who isn't sure yet. Be in a position to choose who is best for you and your family.
From his last text, and from what I know of Leo female Aries male relationships, BACK OFF! Give him time to come to you. I lived with a good Leo friend and watched her demolish relationships by getting too needy too fast -Ok, not saying you are doing this but something to be aware of.
An Aries male needs some space and time to miss you. Can't stress that enough and he won't be on the same clock if he's busy with whatever else is going on in his life, it doesn't mean he has forgotten you. Aries and Leos make great partners BUT the timing has to be right and he doesn't want to lie or play games. As fire signs, we have to give and receive pretty much equally or we're out yet sometimes life throws a curve. Could be work, stress, family issues or doubts. As an Aries I make a conscious decision before I leap in. Leo's tend to lead with their wonderfully generous hearts. If he was on the same page (wanting a serious relationship since you are older with kids) then he would do so. I'm thinking he's a bit hesitant since you do have responsibilities that he is considering if he's willing to take on. You are not totally free and easy so he's considering that. Remember, men (of all signs) pretty much view getting into a relationship as a bit of a drag since it entails so much responsibility for them. Women tend to just see the hearts and flowers, guys view as, "Possible marriage, financial stresses, emotional up-keep"....
So, take it slow and let him come to his own decision. You've shown plenty of interest already, the ball is in his court. If you need to date other guys in the meantime,do so. It's probably best that you do rather than giving too much to someone who isn't sure yet. Be in a position to choose who is best for you and your family.
"With Pluto/Venus aspects, you can attract fatal attractions into your life, too. And attract people who are wanting you to save or rescue them. Have you noticed any of this in your life?"
@Bluemoon, No fatal attractions thankfully although I find it hard to extricate myself from every single relationship I've had. And I've always been the one to leave. I don't mess with people in doing hot/cold with them. If I'm cold, I'm done. Yes, I do seem to attract those who need saving and I will help but their weakness puts me off of any potential relationship. What I do attract are partners who try to control me. It turns me on in the beginning. I love intense, powerful people. A serious relationship will transform me. I look for progression, growth, intensity. Maybe having this aspect is a karmic need?
What I do know is every relationship is on my terms, anything less, I move on with no hesitation. I think water venuses are more manipulative in an underhanded way. As a Pisces venus, I can play many roles to get what I want as the ideal is almighty.
I picked parts of the interpretation of Venus opp Pluto from cafe astrology that I felt best described this aspect for me:
In an attempt to control the outcome of a love relationship, or the loved one's feelings, you can turn to manipulative games. Your feelings are intense, and even extreme, when it comes to love. You might attract intense relationships that have love-hate themes as a result. You are passionate when you love, definitely, but also passionate when you hate. You easily put pressure on your partner, as you expect much loyalty and honesty in your intimate relationships. You are capable of being a great manipulator and are often caught up trying to make things appear a certain way. You are the one who suffers from this tendency the most. You tend to get tied down to a pattern of endless repetition in relationships. You have difficulty in letting go even when a situation is painful.
@Bluemoon, No fatal attractions thankfully although I find it hard to extricate myself from every single relationship I've had. And I've always been the one to leave. I don't mess with people in doing hot/cold with them. If I'm cold, I'm done. Yes, I do seem to attract those who need saving and I will help but their weakness puts me off of any potential relationship. What I do attract are partners who try to control me. It turns me on in the beginning. I love intense, powerful people. A serious relationship will transform me. I look for progression, growth, intensity. Maybe having this aspect is a karmic need?
What I do know is every relationship is on my terms, anything less, I move on with no hesitation. I think water venuses are more manipulative in an underhanded way. As a Pisces venus, I can play many roles to get what I want as the ideal is almighty.
I picked parts of the interpretation of Venus opp Pluto from cafe astrology that I felt best described this aspect for me:
In an attempt to control the outcome of a love relationship, or the loved one's feelings, you can turn to manipulative games. Your feelings are intense, and even extreme, when it comes to love. You might attract intense relationships that have love-hate themes as a result. You are passionate when you love, definitely, but also passionate when you hate. You easily put pressure on your partner, as you expect much loyalty and honesty in your intimate relationships. You are capable of being a great manipulator and are often caught up trying to make things appear a certain way. You are the one who suffers from this tendency the most. You tend to get tied down to a pattern of endless repetition in relationships. You have difficulty in letting go even when a situation is painful.
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