Anyone with planets in the 12th House?

I am seeking to further understand the mysterious 12th house....my moon and mercury are there and i do feel completely drenched in the hidden and unseen worlds a lot, and when i talk to others i feel myself transitioning between my emotions in a deeper realm and sometimes it takes a while for me to truly express myself because im thinking too deeply......however my moon is in leo so its kind of weird because its more direct and outgoing....yet in a sea of depth.........any other 12th house planets or experiences—? thanks!

My Leo Sun is in the 12th house, and to be honest, I'm still trying to figure it out myself. Maybe it's like being in solitary confinement (I'm always hearing about the 12th house relating to prisons and isolation and hospitals and stuff like that) but in a less desperate kind of way, depending on the signs and planets involved.

Maybe you need to fight to dig out the planets in the 12th house, if you see the benefit of opening up your world a little bit (or closing it up). I'm trying like hell to pull out my sun. But I think that with the water houses in general, the planets get so buried.

And just like you, it takes me a while to truly express myself... so maybe I'll come back with more insight after I get a chance to ponder it a little bit more. 😉

fascinating pinkairplane....Yes i've always wondered the significance of the prisons and asylum associations with the 12th house...i've never been able to find an origin of those correspondences...Its interesting that you have a leo sun in the 12th perhaps it adds some extreme depth to your royal and radiant leo spirit. 🙂

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fascinating pinkairplane....Yes i've always wondered the significance of the prisons and asylum associations with the 12th house...i've never been able to find an origin of those correspondences...Its interesting that you have a leo sun in the 12th perhaps it adds some extreme depth to your royal and radiant leo spirit. 🙂

*blush* I could bask in this flattery forever! Haha, looks like I'm also typically vain.

What sign is your Mercury in?

So the 12th house has to do with universality and "secret sorrows." I've always felt quarantined in a way, like I couldn't fully connect with anyone. And while it doesn't necessarily have to be a sorrowful house, I can see it that way, and I think that a 12th house person is therefore more capable of considering all possibilities of things. Just like how you said you think too deeply sometimes, it's like the 12th house turns you into a mist and you just go into all directions, while most people might focus on one particular point, or one particular corner. Does this make sense?

And hopefully this isn't too much of a stretch, but I'm brainstorming now, lol. 🙂 OK, so I think of Pisces as the most compassionate and empathetic sign, and since Pisces corresponds with the 12th house, maybe that's where compassion is found...? Maybe the suffering that happens in the 12th house is what gives an individual that compassion, because the 12th house is kind of a difficult house and is full of all kinds of ~*mystical surprises*~, so it would provide a mindset that prepares you to understand someone else's point of view more easily.

I'm becoming impatient! Maybe I'll revisit this again. 🙂

Yeah I have 3 planets and one asteroid in my 12th house. Moon, merc, jupiter and vesta. I really still dont know what exactly it means but I dont really connect that deeply with people and i really have a hard time expressing my innermost feelings. I have been told im very secretive and I admit I am. I also have the hardest time letting go of wrongs in my life. I can be sitting on the train in a good mood and Ill get a flash of a bad mermory that can bring me to tears, its crazy. I also have these moments where I just refuse to talk i think thats my merc. I am very good at isolating my self into my own world where its very comfortable for me, i like to live in my head.

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@Bkbella I know what u mean about not letting go of past wrongs it sucks big time. I have Sun, Moon, Mars & Asc node in my twelft house. My life is a testament to secret hurts/liasions, jails & asylums. My 4 placements in that house bring out the literal meaning into my life. Is having intimacy/emotional problems associated with the 12th house cuz if so then hmmm lol. Sometimes I swear I was a hoooorrrible person in my last life with all the suffering Ive had to go through. But Im not the only person that suffers so I try not to wallow too much. It still sucks though.

OMG me too Harry.... I feel cursed or damned. Thats what bought me to astrology. I had been attracting all the wrong men and I needed to know why. My chart is full of struggle. When I look at my pics from when I was young I very rarely smiled and im the same way now but I have a reason now. I also have had this aching feeling that I will always be alone even when I was younger. Even some of my friendships, things will be cool and then bam ill find out my "friends" have these secret feelings about how I do things or who I am. I hate to be a victim and wallow but i been wallowing lately. I keep replaying certain events in my head wondering where i went wrong or how things happened the way they do. I think its because I keep getting played, every time it happens Im like nah not me not again. I think its gotten worse since Im not really being super productive and its leaving me too much time to think these days. Im finna fix that, I cant stand being sad all the time.

I have my moon, mercury, and venus is the 12th house. While I have internal struggles, I don't think I attract bad people or others bring pain or bad situations on to me. I've come to accept that the only person to blame for my unhappiness is myself (I guess that's almost a victimizing statement right there. I'm a victim of myself). I over think everything and I put it in my mind to be strong. And because of that, I don't like showing my emotions or talking about them. That causes a lot of inner turmoil for me. I stunt my own growth and take away my chances for change and success because of this. But, I can't blame people for something I ended up causing by my actions, or lack of them, anyway.

I have moon in my 12th house and dont know what it means

Have you tried numerology. It talks about past life debt. I was apparently a naughty person. I used http://www.e-tarocchi.com.

Yep, I have a Sun, Venus, N Node, and Chiron in the 12th. As I understand it (and what resonates with me most) is that they simply give those placements a (rather strong) piscean flavor, no matter what sign they are in. It certainly explains a lot with things I've experienced/noticed about my self, and I definitely identify with the struggle/pain, and "hidden" (introversion, privacy, masked traits, etc.) aspect that has been discussed. I tend to focus more on the positive aspects of the 12th house placements; the spirituality, depth, and intelligence, intuition/heightened sensitivity that it brings; it's a double edged sword as that's part of the reason there is more pain associated with this placement I guess, esp. if you haven't learned how to set boundaries so you're not a sponge that's constantly soaking up what everyone else is putting out (in addition to dealing with your own personal experiences)...something I'm still working on...It can also make you a target for people's projections (good or bad, and/or you may be more prone to projecting onto others), and/or a mirror, and if people don't like what they see, you're pushed away (sometimes with an unpleasant force). But again, focus on the beauty of it...It's like living with 1 foot here (in physical reality), with the other in the spiritual realm...Yeah, there's a lot that comes with the 12th house. It can definitely seem like both a blessing and a curse at times.

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Yep, I have a Sun, Venus, N Node, and Chiron in the 12th. As I understand it (and what resonates with me most) is that they simply give those placements a (rather strong) piscean flavor, no matter what sign they are in. It certainly explains a lot with things I've experienced/noticed about my self, and I definitely identify with the struggle/pain, and "hidden" (introversion, privacy, masked traits, etc.) aspect that has been discussed. I tend to focus more on the positive aspects of the 12th house placements; the spirituality, depth, and intelligence, intuition/heightened sensitivity that it brings; it's a double edged sword as that's part of the reason there is more pain associated with this placement I guess, esp. if you haven't learned how to set boundaries so you're not a sponge that's constantly soaking up what everyone else is putting out (in addition to dealing with your own personal experiences)...something I'm still working on...It can also make you a target for people's projections (good or bad, and/or you may be more prone to projecting onto others), and/or a mirror, and if people don't like what they see, you're pushed away (sometimes with an unpleasant force). But again, focus on the beauty of it...It's like living with 1 foot here (in physical reality), with the other in the spiritual realm...Yeah, there's a lot that comes with the 12th house. It can definitely seem like both a blessing and a curse at times.

good explanation.....how do you become less sensitive tho if it unconcious? the sponge part?

I forgot to add, regarding the "hidden" aspect and how I also identify with these translations; "behind the scenes" (work of any kind, including humanitarian), seeming invisible to people; harder (takes more work/effort) to be noticed when you actually want to be, or to get recognition for your hard work/talents...Then there's the tendency to do just the opposite; the conscious act of flying under the radar, which is easier to do with this placement. I think I can also relate to hidden talents/traits; things/potential (usually extraordinary gifts) that others can see in me, that I didn't initially see in my self...and those people (two of them are now in spirit) who see/saw those things were highly spiritual themselves...I was never at all invisible to those people, and I recognize(d) them just as well...

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good explanation.....how do you become less sensitive tho if it unconcious? the sponge part?

I'll do the best I can here, but I know that it starts with a holistic approach to taking good care of yourself, which involves (and I'm only going to mention a few things in regards to mental/emotional/spiritual health, but care towards your physical health is just as important); regularly meditating...taking time out, cleansing and centering yourself (daily)...Knowing, defining , and loving yourself, thoroughly...Maintaining a healthy environment; keeping a peaceful home/a sanctuary (if home is a mess, find a spot that brings you peace/comfort and try to make it a point to get some time in there), surrounding yourself with people/interests, or doing things you love (passions/hobbies), or things/people that inspire you. I know I have also managed by being able to detach/remove myself emotionally, but that's not necessarily always a good, healthy way to go. Setting healthy boundaries v.s. walling myself off (or compartmentalizing things in excess)...two different things. I've managed the former, but I am still fixing the latter, and fixing that begins with healing within (and the former is an important step in that healing). It's definitely a process. It's not about becoming "less sensitive", but about setting those boundaries; being able to make distinctions between what's yours (thoughts, energy/feelings/emotion, etc.) and what isn't...keeping your self grounded/centered; being able to interact with, care for, and/or assist others (or the world) without becoming an emotional dumping ground for them (daily cleansing/shedding/purging yourself of what isn't yours, and not allowing others to use you like that. It's something that is difficult for me to put into words (esp. as I am still working on this my self), but at any rate I do understand that a lot of this can be a lot easier said than done, as life is messy, but you do what you can. Take baby steps if you have to. I know it's not easy, it really does take a lot of practice and discipline.

My sun and venus (both cancer) are in the 12th house...

My bf has this placement in Moon, Pluto, and Asc. in scorpio 12th house. I'm not really sure what this means either, but from what I've read about the house, seems like it produces more of a "loner" feel (although I don't see that in him at ALL..) and you tend to be a lot more secretive perhaps? Keeping personal things about yourself to yourself...

I don't know, maybe I misinterpreted it completely wrong. Hopefully someone can bring some insight into this, I'd like to know all this as well.

12th house in ARIES (moon)

I am usually drawn to people rejected by society.

I Can take initiatives without consulting anyone, even my close ones.

I have to learn to speak to stand my ideas since I am very assertive but cant explain right to others to understand.

I have Pluto in Scorpio 12TH house. :/

Saturn in scorp in the 12th house....I forgot what it means. Ill have to look it up again

My sun and mercury is in the 12th house. I understand the "loner" feel they say it gives. I feel like I belong to group of people that are never winning. It's very hard to grasp though. I can't rely on my ego to get me through some situations. Like sometimes, I just need to do certain things in situation, but I can't access my ego and do it or something. But when I'm alone I come the most alive and feel the most confident in myself. Like right now I'm lying in bed, alone in the AM on my laptop. This is my favorite time of the day. Calm and quiet.

Pisces on 12th house cusp, Mars in Aries and Jupiter in Pisces.

Pisces on 12th house cusp
You have great intuition but you do not pay attention to it. It is probable that you are a very good counselor with others but not so good with yourself. You tend to act in an impulsive and uncontrolled manner and it would be good if you learned to be more discerning and think twice before acting, to avoid problems.
It is important to totally avoid vices in your life because one of your worst traits is the tendency to avoid problems by indulging your addictions. You must also control your level of fantasizing or idealizing both people and situations in order to avoid future disappointments. You tend to complain about others and not to see your own defects.
You will experience confusing situations in your family and very strong trials in your profession. You will have a few secret enemies and will be envied by many people. Take care of yourself and do not let your kind and optimistic attitude lower your guard. Also, the possibility exists of living in exile.

Mars in 12th house
You can feel limitations in your energy and have difficulty expressing your aggressiveness freely which could lead to health problems. It is important that you learn to express your aggressiveness in a constructive and open manner, without fearing the consequences. It is probable that you will work somewhere that cares for helpless or ill people, and you could be a very good manager of the place. You are also very reserved and secretive, which inclines you to be very investigative or a detective.

Mars in Aries
You are independent, vigorous, dominant, autocratic and brave. You do not like routine and it is difficult for you to adjust to compromise. Tigercap, you were born with a lot of strength, initiative and aggressiveness. Your enthusiasm will be contagious and you will assert your authority. On a negative note, you could be very impatient, irritable and have uncontrollable or difficult-to-satisfy desires. If you succeed in directing your energy, you will reach success in any enterprise you set out to do. You have much physical energy and your body recovers very easily from any illness. You are an active person who needs continuous physical activity, therefore, you can excel in sports or exercises, and in any competitive enterprise. You become angry easily but you also calm down with the same swiftness. You must learn to control your selfishness and to think more before acting. It is recommended that you be careful because your great courage and tenacity make you prone to certain accidents or falls.

Mars opposition or square Neptune orb 2?? 41'
You possess a strong imagination and have a lot of fantasies but you lack the ability to take them to the practical and concrete level. It is probable that you are afraid of your own aggressiveness and you consequently doubt your own authority. You are prone to allergies to certain foods or drugs and must be careful with your diet. You can become fanatically stubborn about your convictions, hiding your fears and weaknesses. It is important that you develop more self assurance and the initiative to solidify your dreams.

Jupiter in 12th house
You are very sensitive, hospitable and are willing to offer yourself selflessly. You need to feel needed by others and will be very dependent on the reactions of others. This position will offer you a general protection throughout your life though you must learn to be more orderly, especially with important or legal papers. Your great compassion makes you a good candidate for professions such as medicine, nursing or social assistance.

Jupiter in Pisces
You feel naturally inclined to help others. You are very sensitive to the pain of other people, or animals; your great compassion makes you apt to be a doctor, a nurse or a veterinarian. You are very kind, warm and perceptive. In spite of possibly being very popular, you will continuously seek a calm place far from noises. You will have many fantasies and find it difficult to confront the world as it is.

Jupiter opposition or square Saturn orb 2?? 54'
You must learn to recognize your limitations and to direct your energies in a more organized manner. It is probable that you are insecure about your potential and do not feel very sure of reaching your objectives. Success can come late in life and with it the feeling that you will never have true recognition. You could tend to be very realistic and materialistic but lack enthusiasm and courage to move. It is to be hoped that you have received from childhood the support and attention necessary, and that your parents avoided unfavorable comparisons with siblings or friends.

Jupiter opposition or square Uranus orb 4?? 40'
You are very rebellious and will not accept rules or laws that are imposed on you. You are very enthusiastic, independent, nervous and disorderly. It is important that you learn to concentrate and direct your energies. You must also learn to be more moderate, to not act with exaggeration and to not be so critical.

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Posted by bkbella86


good explanation.....how do you become less sensitive tho if it unconcious? the sponge part?

I'll do the best I can here, but I know that it starts with a holistic approach to taking good care of yourself, which involves (and I'm only going to mention a few things in regards to mental/emotional/spiritual health, but care towards your physical health is just as important); regularly meditating...taking time out, cleansing and centering yourself (daily)...Knowing, defining , and loving yourself, thoroughly...Maintaining a healthy environment; keeping a peaceful home/a sanctuary (if home is a mess, find a spot that brings you peace/comfort and try to make it a point to get some time in there), surrounding yourself with people/interests, or doing things you love (passions/hobbies), or things/people that inspire you. I know I have also managed by being able to detach/remove myself emotionally, but that's not necessarily always a good, healthy way to go. Setting healthy boundaries v.s. walling myself off (or compartmentalizing things in excess)...two different things. I've managed the former, but I am still fixing the latter, and fixing that begins with healing within (and the former is an important step in that healing). It's definitely a process. It's not about becoming "less sensitive", but about setting those boundaries; being able to make distinctions between what's yours (thoughts, energy/feelings/emotion, etc.) and what isn't...keeping your self grounded/centered; being able to interact with, care for, and/or assist others (or the world) without becoming an emotional dumping ground for them (daily cleansing/shedding/purging yourself of what isn't yours, and not allowing others to use you like that. It's something that is difficult for me to put into words (esp. as I am still working on this my self), but at any rate I do understand that a lot of this can be a lot easier said than done, as life is messy, but you do what you can. Take baby steps if you have to. I know it's not easy, it really does take a lot of practice and discipline.

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omg Im so happy i came back to this

very informative and eye opening...thanx!

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Posted by bkbella86


good explanation.....how do you become less sensitive tho if it unconcious? the sponge part?

I'll do the best I can here, but I know that it starts with a holistic approach to taking good care of yourself, which involves (and I'm only going to mention a few things in regards to mental/emotional/spiritual health, but care towards your physical health is just as important); regularly meditating...taking time out, cleansing and centering yourself (daily)...Knowing, defining , and loving yourself, thoroughly...Maintaining a healthy environment; keeping a peaceful home/a sanctuary (if home is a mess, find a spot that brings you peace/comfort and try to make it a point to get some time in there), surrounding yourself with people/interests, or doing things you love (passions/hobbies), or things/people that inspire you. I know I have also managed by being able to detach/remove myself emotionally, but that's not necessarily always a good, healthy way to go. Setting healthy boundaries v.s. walling myself off (or compartmentalizing things in excess)...two different things. I've managed the former, but I am still fixing the latter, and fixing that begins with healing within (and the former is an important step in that healing). It's definitely a process. It's not about becoming "less sensitive", but about setting those boundaries; being able to make distinctions between what's yours (thoughts, energy/feelings/emotion, etc.) and what isn't...keeping your self grounded/centered; being able to interact with, care for, and/or assist others (or the world) without becoming an emotional dumping ground for them (daily cleansing/shedding/purging yourself of what isn't yours, and not allowing others to use you like that. It's something that is difficult for me to put into words (esp. as I am still working on this my self), but at any rate I do understand that a lot of this can be a lot easier said than done, as life is messy, but you do what you can. Take baby steps if you have to. I know it's not easy, it really does take a lot of practice and discipline.

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Thank you so much. Great advice! I've been struggling with my 12th houuse Venus since forever, so any help is more than welcome.

Venus. A condition also known as "crazy Venus syndrome". If you get afflicted you can:
-dayream like crazy, not caring about the real life or real people
- fall in love with: a rock star, an actor/actress/ a married guy/girl, someone from a different town/ country/ continent/universe
- someone who is dead or otherwise non-exsistent
Furthermore, you can turn into: a stalker, a clinger, a pushover, a doormat, a victim, a sacrificial lamb, a do it all for your lover, an abused person, a drunkard.
You might want to - save the person you love from alcoholism, drug abuse, insanity, criminal behaviour or other destructive behaviour. You can either depend on or the one to depend on.
You might want to try the forbbiden fruit - somebody's partner/husband/ or cheat on yours.
In the best case scenario, you'll just be overly idealistic and want a romance from a fairytale.

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Pisces on 12th house cusp
You have great intuition but you do not pay attention to it. It is probable that you are a very good counselor with others but not so good with yourself. You tend to act in an impulsive and uncontrolled manner and it would be good if you learned to be more discerning and think twice before acting, to avoid problems.
It is important to totally avoid vices in your life because one of your worst traits is the tendency to avoid problems by indulging your addictions. You must also control your level of fantasizing or idealizing both people and situations in order to avoid future disappointments. You tend to complain about others and not to see your own defects.
You will experience confusing situations in your family and very strong trials in your profession. You will have a few secret enemies and will be envied by many people. Take care of yourself and do not let your kind and optimistic attitude lower your guard. Also, the possibility exists of living in exile.

Mars in 12th house
You can feel limitations in your energy and have difficulty expressing your aggressiveness freely...

I have Pisces on 12th house cusp, with Mars in the 12th, but in Taurus.

That Pisces cusp description is eerily accurate (also have a Pisces moon in 11th).

But my 12th house Mars is conjunct my ascendant-- which is the antithesis of Mars in 12th description.


Mars Conjunct Ascendant

You are strong-willed, and people quickly realize that you are not someone to trifle with. You have all the classic qualities of Mars -self-reliance, courage and daring, personal aggressiveness and independence.

You are at your best working by yourself. Usually you are willing to take responsibility for what you do, and you are dependable. Your strong sense of personal integrity and pride makes you somewhat sensitive to comments by others that seem to indicate that they do not take you very seriously.


Not sure which one is stronger, but I do get super-pissed if I'm not taken seriously.

I will endeavor to convince the doubter otherwise. 😛

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Posted by bkbella86


good explanation.....how do you become less sensitive tho if it unconcious? the sponge part?

I'll do the best I can here, but I know that it starts with a holistic approach to taking good care of yourself, which involves (and I'm only going to mention a few things in regards to mental/emotional/spiritual health, but care towards your physical health is just as important); regularly meditating...taking time out, cleansing and centering yourself (daily)...Knowing, defining , and loving yourself, thoroughly...Maintaining a healthy environment; keeping a peaceful home/a sanctuary (if home is a mess, find a spot that brings you peace/comfort and try to make it a point to get some time in there), surrounding yourself with people/interests, or doing things you love (passions/hobbies), or things/people that inspire you. I know I have also managed by being able to detach/remove myself emotionally, but that's not necessarily always a good, healthy way to go. Setting healthy boundaries v.s. walling myself off (or compartmentalizing things in excess)...two different things. I've managed the former, but I am still fixing the latter, and fixing that begins with healing within (and the former is an important step in that healing). It's definitely a process. It's not about becoming "less sensitive", but about setting those boundaries; being able to make distinctions between what's yours (thoughts, energy/feelings/emotion, etc.) and what isn't...keeping your self grounded/centered; being able to interact with, care for, and/or assist others (or the world) without becoming an emotional dumping ground for them (daily cleansing/shedding/purging yourself of what isn't yours, and not allowing others to use you like that. It's something that is difficult for me to put into words (esp. as I am still working on this my self), but at any rate I do understand that a lot of this can be a lot easier said than done, as life is messy, but you do what you can. Take baby steps if you have to. I know it's not easy, it really does take a lot of practice and discipline.

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This truly helped reading. Sensitivity.

Cancer Venus in the 12th.

sun, saturn & vesta in the 12th

all i know is that 12th house is the place where your hidden enemies are indicated.
It that has already been said, sorry... im such a lazy bastard and i simply wont read everthing posted before lol
good day xd

3 Sun,Mercury & Uranus all in Virgo

Posted by cancerous
My bf has ... Moon ... in ... 12th house. ... seems like it produces more of a "loner" feel ... Keeping personal things about yourself to yourself...

My Scorp has his Moon in H12 and he is a loner. Secretive? Yes, but it could also come from his Moon in Pisces. Or Sin in Scorp.

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Posted by bkbella86
.....how do you become less sensitive tho if it unconcious? the sponge part?

...taking good care of yourself ... regularly meditating...taking time out, cleansing and centering yourself (daily)...Knowing, defining , and loving yourself, thoroughly...Maintaining a healthy environment; keeping a peaceful home/a sanctuary ... surrounding yourself with people/interests, or doing things you love (passions/hobbies), or things/people that inspire you... Setting healthy boundaries ... make distinctions between what's yours (thoughts, energy/feelings/emotion, etc.) and what isn't...keeping your self grounded/centered; ... Take baby steps ... it really does take a lot of practice and discipline.

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TV, best thank to you for this guideline. My thought have come so far. But now it is taken to another level. I feel joy to follow all this and write down my success to this thread in a few weeks.

PS: With Sun in H12 I never know what happens the next hour. Am I jetting to what I'm supposed to do, or am I staying in bed declaring myself as shut down. It was even worse as recently Mars was in Sc and other things in Virgo.

I have my moon in Cancer in 12th house. I am still trying to figure that out.

I have a lot (a lot...) They went there for "after party" but itsn't so bad, I'm not dead.

Gemini moon in 12th.... inside can be either heaven or hell.... mostly heaven to be alone in it... but then there are times when i'd do anything to escape... hard to explain really... had the feeling sometimes during extreme moments of intimacy where I have wanted to literally pull the person inside myself... for hope of greater understanding I guess... I don't know....
I lose and find myself daily really.... kind of exhausting....

Gemini Mars in 12th. I have no idea what it means. 🙂

Posted by AbbyNormal
Gemini moon in 12th.... inside can be either heaven or hell.... mostly heaven to be alone in it... but then there are times when i'd do anything to escape... hard to explain really... had the feeling sometimes during extreme moments of intimacy where I have wanted to literally pull the person inside myself... for hope of greater understanding I guess... I don't know....
I lose and find myself daily really.... kind of exhausting....

Gemini Moon is exhausting all on it's own. Do more research and try to find what good you can possibly make of that placement..?

I have a Taurus Saturn in the 12th, and it's conjunct my ascendant.

I relate to the description quoted below. I've worked hard to overcome the negatives. Sometimes I feel like Saturn's weight is on me. During those times, I have to consciously focus so it doesn't dampen my self expression too much.

An astrologer I spoke to once told me that a way to deal with heavy Saturn energy like this is to live as close to nature as possible - that's particularly healing for Saturn heavy people, he conveyed. That's what I've been increasingly drawn to. I feel at peace in my daily life more often than not now that I live in an area with much more plant and wildlife than people.


http://astrolibrary.org/interpretations/saturn-house/#twelfth<BR>
"If you have Saturn in the 12th House, you have the potential to develop strong inner discipline and sensitivity.

There can be feelings of fear, doubt and a lack of confidence in yourself. There may be an unconscious desire to make restitution for wrongs committed in previous lives. Thus, you may feel fated and desire to retreat from society.

A strong inner discipline gives you the ability to repay your past life debts, though. Your present path may involve serving mankind in some manner.

Chronic health problems can be experienced if subconscious fears are not brought out into the open. There is a love of solitude. Work may be behind the scenes or it may involve an occupation where you do not come into contact with the general public."

The long on off leo lover has his sun, moon, merc and venus in leo + all in the 12th house. He doesn't really open up, flys under the radar quite often, always kept our on off a secret to the outter world. Oh boy...

Good read, encouraging, positive, insightful on 12th planets..

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_dgtwehouse_e.htm#3

12th House Stellium here. Sun/Mars/Uranus/Neptune

This is probably the reason why all so attract are Earth signs, I need a woman who can ground me. I will provide her all the financial security and stability she wants if she can keep my brain from floating away into the clouds and be my First Lady.

I just looked up my progressed chart and right now both mars and saturn are in the 12th house. My moon was there when I was born.

I understand saturn in the 12th house is pretty devastating. I keep putting new dates in to find out when Saturn will be out of there. It seems it has been there for many years, like I tried seeing where it was 10 years ago it was in the 12th house then, it is right now and it will be in 5 years from now. It's not moving. This makes no sense. I read it should only be in there for 2 1/2 years?

I am using astrotheme to do it, as well. What gives? I feel like I am doomed to be in the 12th house forever, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. My life has been feeling very unstable for many years.

I must be doing something wrong to be getting these results. It's ridiculous.

Posted by GuardianAnu
I just looked up my progressed chart and right now both mars and saturn are in the 12th house. My moon was there when I was born.

I understand saturn in the 12th house is pretty devastating. I keep putting new dates in to find out when Saturn will be out of there. It seems it has been there for many years, like I tried seeing where it was 10 years ago it was in the 12th house then, it is right now and it will be in 5 years from now. It's not moving. This makes no sense. I read it should only be in there for 2 1/2 years?

I am using astrotheme to do it, as well. What gives? I feel like I am doomed to be in the 12th house forever, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. My life has been feeling very unstable for many years.

I must be doing something wrong to be getting these results. It's ridiculous.

sorry to hear that it's been unstable for years. how is it unstable in what way??

I have had GED for as long as I can remember (and I didn't know I had it, it is all hindsight now and everything makes sense) but it really only started to affect me (and finally got diagnosed with it) since I turned 30.It affects my ability to get and keep a job and since I have had a string of bad long term relationships since my early 20's (I was in a loveless marriage throughout most of my 20's) my self esteem had plummeted and while I am in a much better relationship now, I am still trying to figure out what to do with myself. I lost the passion for drawing, I have no creative outlets any more and just feel like I am stuck. I am lucky that I have a wonderful family who supports me in this time, but my future seems bleak to me.

I grew up "knowing" I wanted to be an animator but once I went to school for it, after graduation I realized I didn't want a career in animation. So that was a bit of a blow. I feel like I am floating around and not really living. While I realize I do have it pretty good, I just don't feel right and don't know how other people cope when they have so much more on their plate than I do. I feel like I would crumble if I were in their shoes.

Posted by GuardianAnu
I have had GED for as long as I can remember (and I didn't know I had it, it is all hindsight now and everything makes sense) but it really only started to affect me (and finally got diagnosed with it) since I turned 30.It affects my ability to get and keep a job and since I have had a string of bad long term relationships since my early 20's (I was in a loveless marriage throughout most of my 20's) my self esteem had plummeted and while I am in a much better relationship now, I am still trying to figure out what to do with myself. I lost the passion for drawing, I have no creative outlets any more and just feel like I am stuck. I am lucky that I have a wonderful family who supports me in this time, but my future seems bleak to me.

I grew up "knowing" I wanted to be an animator but once I went to school for it, after graduation I realized I didn't want a career in animation. So that was a bit of a blow. I feel like I am floating around and not really living. While I realize I do have it pretty good, I just don't feel right and don't know how other people cope when they have so much more on their plate than I do. I feel like I would crumble if I were in their shoes.

that sounds terrible you were in a loveless marriage. Don't worry, you're not alone, many of us have been through crappy marriages/relationships, ect.

so all we can do , is move forward! And , you are already very LUCKY as you said so yourself. You have your family that is extremely supportive. And now you said you're in a better relationshp.

that all sounds great!! you have to take one day at a time, not get so sad about the things that aren't really sad about. You have more than what most people have in the world. A good relationship and family that is supportive. What more do you want?? you will have to just take it one step, and enjoy life while pursuring the things you also want for yourself.

You're right, I guess I just feel like I am stuck in limbo and have been here for years and often worry that one day I will end up living in a box in an alley.
I'm not one to go into details on a forum about these things, but the details probably don't really matter. I am just glad I have leg room to figure myself out. Not everyone has that. In fact, I think most people don't.

Thanks for listening.

Dat Saturn, doe. 😕