12th house Mars or 12th house Saturn ppl? Or both? I currently have an obsession with houses ?
Can anyone tell me about
Posted by KoniuchaaHey koni, what are u like being a 12th house mars & what sign is it in?Posted by NepturanusI am
i believe @koniuchaa is a 12th house Marsclick to expand
Posted by KoniuchaaSounds like my mars in Leo 12th house friend .. maybe the water houses really do put out some of the firePosted by SofiaV87It's in Sagittarius. I'm more of a low-energy person despite having a fire Mars. I also don't really like going out in public and prefer to do things hidden away from others.Posted by KoniuchaaHey koni, what are u like being a 12th house mars & what sign is it in?Posted by NepturanusI am
i believe @koniuchaa is a 12th house Marsclick to expand
I got saturn "in virgo" in my 12th house...Everything I read about it is not good. God I hope someone comes in here and tells me otherwise..lol
I'm a 12th house Mars Taurus
Posted by 13thMy friend also has Saturn in Virgo in the 12th.. & his mars is in the 12th as well .. dont know much about either
I got saturn "in virgo" in my 12th house...Everything I read about it is not good. God I hope someone comes in here and tells me otherwise..lol
Posted by solo87Do u feel like your mars is more watery than earthy or maybe a mix?
I'm a 12th house Mars Taurus
Posted by SofiaV87Between water and earth I would say almost all water.Posted by solo87Do u feel like your mars is more watery than earthy or maybe a mix?
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Posted by JustJules
I'm a 12th house Mars Scorpio.
Damn that's pretty serious lol how do u go after things/people ?
Posted by PiscoThanks for the info ? My friend has been his own worst enemy his whole life but has been working on it .. he's mars Leo in 12th
My mars is in my 12th house in Taurus as well. One thing that rang true in particular, is people with their mars in the 12th house will tend to be "your own worst enemy". I can't say how often I've been told that by others my entire life. I will fight for what I believe is worth a fight, but I will not fight if I think it's unproductive. I also beat myself for everything I do. For example, my artwork isn't good enough, projects could be better, writing could be more complex, I should work harder to get a better grade, etc. How I see it, is there is always room for improvement.
Persistence is key. Slow and steady.
Posted by SofiaV87Posted by JustJules
I'm a 12th house Mars Scorpio.
Damn that's pretty serious lol how do u go after things/people ?click to expand
I just saw your question @SofiaV87 lol...
By going after do you mean when I'm romantically interested? I'm a terrible flirt and am rather oblivious to being flirted with, but I guess my go-to flirt move is major eye contact. I'm really drawn to eyes and what you can read about a person in them.
If you mean go after when angry, I don't really. Not a confrontational person unless someone has done something messed up to someone I love. Then I will go bat-shit crazy to retaliate! When something is done to me I pull the stereotypical Mars in Scorpio sit back and exact revenge when the time is right move.
Hope this answered your question?
I'm a 12th house Mars.
I'm low energy too and feel that way whenever I'm around too many people for too long. I just feel the energy all around me and it's draining.
I'm also a huge physical empath. When I see someone getting a cut, I can imagine how that would feel if that was me. I also get light headed fairly easily (if I see myself bleeding, even if I try not to think about it, I still know I am unconsciously).
I like working alone and doing things by myself. Doing it with a friend is hard because I have a hard time asserting myself and I don't always get to do the things I wanted to do if I'm with them. When I'm by myself I get to do whatever I want.
I'm a stereotypical Mars in Scorpio too and like to wait for the right time to do things but sometimes that time comes and I get scared. Like I feel ashamed, I shouldn't be doing this because it's not right and there's so many things that could go wrong.
Before, I would become very lethargic and not realize that it was because something made me angry. Let's say one day I drive 40 minutes away to see someone close and that person has to leave at the last minute because they made plans. Normally, I would think "It's okay, they needed to leave, they had plans, I couldn't control it" and put on a pleasant face but deep inside I'd be angry because I made all this effort to go see them and they didn't respect me enough to let me know. Consciously, that doesn't make sense to me because that was ME putting in all the effort, so I can't be mad at THEM. Now that I felt like they didn't respect me, and I see it, I'd want to let them know, but I wouldn't know how. I'd want revenge, but revenge here sounds petty and childish. I could just talk to them calmly about it, but I would feel like it's not the right way to go about it, because the way it made me feel goes beyond a simple explanation. It almost feels like they betrayed me because I chose to give them all this effort and they couldn't even respect it, but that could just be me over reacting and I should just get over it. Now resentment slowly builds but I don't realize it and I start feeling lethargic.
Mars is about action and boundaries and I can have boundary issues. Growing up, I was always expected to be obedient and when shit hit the fan, I wasn't allowed to fight back and instead was just coddled. I didn't get what I needed at the time.
On the flip side, Mars in the 12th means you defend your unconscious. You set clear boundaries that will not betray your true self. People make compromises everyday. Mars in the 12th makes sure you don't make any compromises that would erode your soul.
You can also have a passion for working for the downtrodden and misunderstood people. You can see how they're overlooked (because you were) and want to stand up for them. It's easier to fight for a group or for a cause (like for your team in football) than for yourself.
I'm low energy too and feel that way whenever I'm around too many people for too long. I just feel the energy all around me and it's draining.
I'm also a huge physical empath. When I see someone getting a cut, I can imagine how that would feel if that was me. I also get light headed fairly easily (if I see myself bleeding, even if I try not to think about it, I still know I am unconsciously).
I like working alone and doing things by myself. Doing it with a friend is hard because I have a hard time asserting myself and I don't always get to do the things I wanted to do if I'm with them. When I'm by myself I get to do whatever I want.
I'm a stereotypical Mars in Scorpio too and like to wait for the right time to do things but sometimes that time comes and I get scared. Like I feel ashamed, I shouldn't be doing this because it's not right and there's so many things that could go wrong.
Before, I would become very lethargic and not realize that it was because something made me angry. Let's say one day I drive 40 minutes away to see someone close and that person has to leave at the last minute because they made plans. Normally, I would think "It's okay, they needed to leave, they had plans, I couldn't control it" and put on a pleasant face but deep inside I'd be angry because I made all this effort to go see them and they didn't respect me enough to let me know. Consciously, that doesn't make sense to me because that was ME putting in all the effort, so I can't be mad at THEM. Now that I felt like they didn't respect me, and I see it, I'd want to let them know, but I wouldn't know how. I'd want revenge, but revenge here sounds petty and childish. I could just talk to them calmly about it, but I would feel like it's not the right way to go about it, because the way it made me feel goes beyond a simple explanation. It almost feels like they betrayed me because I chose to give them all this effort and they couldn't even respect it, but that could just be me over reacting and I should just get over it. Now resentment slowly builds but I don't realize it and I start feeling lethargic.
Mars is about action and boundaries and I can have boundary issues. Growing up, I was always expected to be obedient and when shit hit the fan, I wasn't allowed to fight back and instead was just coddled. I didn't get what I needed at the time.
On the flip side, Mars in the 12th means you defend your unconscious. You set clear boundaries that will not betray your true self. People make compromises everyday. Mars in the 12th makes sure you don't make any compromises that would erode your soul.
You can also have a passion for working for the downtrodden and misunderstood people. You can see how they're overlooked (because you were) and want to stand up for them. It's easier to fight for a group or for a cause (like for your team in football) than for yourself.
Oh, and Mars means standing up for yourself. I like doing things on my own because I'm in control of what I do. When you don't get to do what you want, you don't stand up for your inner self and that makes you feel tired.
Posted by LilianniThank u for your detailed answer ! It's all very interesting .. wow, you're Scorpio mars 12th house .. that's deep.. I bet you're an awesome friend
I'm a 12th house Mars.
I'm low energy too and feel that way whenever I'm around too many people for too long. I just feel the energy all around me and it's draining.
I'm also a huge physical empath. When I see someone getting a cut, I can imagine how that would feel if that was me. I also get light headed fairly easily (if I see myself bleeding, even if I try not to think about it, I still know I am unconsciously).
I like working alone and doing things by myself. Doing it with a friend is hard because I have a hard time asserting myself and I don't always get to do the things I wanted to do if I'm with them. When I'm by myself I get to do whatever I want.
I'm a stereotypical Mars in Scorpio too and like to wait for the right time to do things but sometimes that time comes and I get scared. Like I feel ashamed, I shouldn't be doing this because it's not right and there's so many things that could go wrong.
Before, I would become very lethargic and not realize that it was because something made me angry. Let's say one day I drive 40 minutes away to see someone close and that person has to leave at the last minute because they made plans. Normally, I would think "It's okay, they needed to leave, they had plans, I couldn't control it" and put on a pleasant face but deep inside I'd be angry because I made all this effort to go see them and they didn't respect me enough to let me know. Consciously, that doesn't make sense to me because that was ME putting in all the effort, so I can't be mad at THEM. Now that I felt like they didn't respect me, and I see it, I'd want to let them know, but I wouldn't know how. I'd want revenge, but revenge here sounds petty and childish. I could just talk to them calmly about it, but I would feel like it's not the right way to go about it, because the way it made me feel goes beyond a simple explanation. It almost feels like they betrayed me because I chose to give them all this effort and they couldn't even respect it, but that could just be me over reacting and I should just get over it. Now resentment slowly builds but I don't realize it and I start feeling lethargic.
Mars is about action and boundaries and I can have boundary issues. Growing up, I was always expected to be obedient and when shit hit the fan, I wasn't allowed to fight back and instead was just coddled. I didn't get what I needed at the time.
On the flip side, Mars in the 12th means you defend your unconscious. You set clear boundaries that will not betray your true self. People make compromises everyday. Mars in the 12th makes sure you don't make any compromises that would erode your soul.
You can also have a passion for working for the downtrodden and misunderstood people. You can see how they're overlooked (because you were) and want to stand up for them. It's easier to fight for a group or for a cause (like for your team in football) than for yourself.
Posted by LilianniI understand this .. I'm a bit of a loner , I seem to get more done on my own
Oh, and Mars means standing up for yourself. I like doing things on my own because I'm in control of what I do. When you don't get to do what you want, you don't stand up for your inner self and that makes you feel tired.
Posted by SmidgeI think u worded this perfectly ..even though I'm not 12th house mars , I get the part where u said you're too busy keeping other ppls moods positive to deal with frustration/anger that u tire out & cant enjoy the moment.. I find myself in those situations sometimes too .. also the ppl that are highly offended by everything & give off an attitude that most of the time they don't realize theyre doing
12th house gemini mars.
Like the others mentioned, I prefer to do things alone. I find that the energy of other people ruins my experiences, often I'm too busy trying to keep other people's moods positive, so that I don't have to deal with their frustration or anger, that I tire myself and don't enjoy it.
Quite a lot of the time, I avoid negative interactions and ignore direct insults, just to keep negative energy away.
Unfortunately, when I do react, I react erratically and dramatically, it's usually a scary and unpleasant situation. My aries sun and mercury helps with that.
I would consider myself some sort of empath, but I can't control it and I feel it kinda negatively, subconsciously making myself unsympathetic to protect myself.
That got a bit deep lol
Posted by Lilianni
I'm a 12th house Mars.
I'm low energy too and feel that way whenever I'm around too many people for too long. I just feel the energy all around me and it's draining.
I'm also a huge physical empath. When I see someone getting a cut, I can imagine how that would feel if that was me. I also get light headed fairly easily (if I see myself bleeding, even if I try not to think about it, I still know I am unconsciously).
I like working alone and doing things by myself. Doing it with a friend is hard because I have a hard time asserting myself and I don't always get to do the things I wanted to do if I'm with them. When I'm by myself I get to do whatever I want.
I'm a stereotypical Mars in Scorpio too and like to wait for the right time to do things but sometimes that time comes and I get scared. Like I feel ashamed, I shouldn't be doing this because it's not right and there's so many things that could go wrong.
Before, I would become very lethargic and not realize that it was because something made me angry. Let's say one day I drive 40 minutes away to see someone close and that person has to leave at the last minute because they made plans. Normally, I would think "It's okay, they needed to leave, they had plans, I couldn't control it" and put on a pleasant face but deep inside I'd be angry because I made all this effort to go see them and they didn't respect me enough to let me know. Consciously, that doesn't make sense to me because that was ME putting in all the effort, so I can't be mad at THEM. Now that I felt like they didn't respect me, and I see it, I'd want to let them know, but I wouldn't know how. I'd want revenge, but revenge here sounds petty and childish. I could just talk to them calmly about it, but I would feel like it's not the right way to go about it, because the way it made me feel goes beyond a simple explanation. It almost feels like they betrayed me because I chose to give them all this effort and they couldn't even respect it, but that could just be me over reacting and I should just get over it. Now resentment slowly builds but I don't realize it and I start feeling lethargic.
Mars is about action and boundaries and I can have boundary issues. Growing up, I was always expected to be obedient and when shit hit the fan, I wasn't allowed to fight back and instead was just coddled. I didn't get what I needed at the time.
On the flip side, Mars in the 12th means you defend your unconscious. You set clear boundaries that will not betray your true self. People make compromises everyday. Mars in the 12th makes sure you don't make any compromises that would erode your soul.
You can also have a passion for working for the downtrodden and misunderstood people. You can see how they're overlooked (because you were) and want to stand up for them. It's easier to fight for a group or for a cause (like for your team in football) than for yourself.
You expressed this so well @Lilianni! Especially the parts about feeling physical pain from others and fighting for others when not so capable of doing so for yourself. For example, I can see someone fall out of a tree on a movie, and it will make my legs hurt as if I was the one that fell... As for the other if someone wrongs me, depending on the situation I will shrug it off or cut them off. If someone does wrong to people I love I get very territorial and protective. The goal for us is to learn to set boundaries, and love and protect ourselves as much as we do for others.
Posted by lesenfantterriblesDamn, nobody will ever know what u really want ?
i am a 12th aqua mars & i hate it.
if i want something (ie: career, romantic interest, creative project) i feel competant & capable & dream up of all the ways i'd be good at it but the actual action is always stunted. i drag my feet & sometimes will often doubt myself when it becomes actualized.
things getting set in motion really stresses me out & i'll retreat into my own dream world. i think it manifests in issues with self assertion that pertains to action. i can assert myself verbally about my opinions/thoughts but, getting what i actually desire, fuggedaboutit.
i also keep my deepest desire hidden. aint no one gonna know what i truly truly want.
Posted by lesenfantterriblesPosted by SofiaV87nope! i like to keep my desires, motives, and real aspirations to myself. sometimes i will release nuggets to a partner or friend but it's not often.Posted by lesenfantterriblesDamn, nobody will ever know what u really want ?
i am a 12th aqua mars & i hate it.
if i want something (ie: career, romantic interest, creative project) i feel competant & capable & dream up of all the ways i'd be good at it but the actual action is always stunted. i drag my feet & sometimes will often doubt myself when it becomes actualized.
things getting set in motion really stresses me out & i'll retreat into my own dream world. i think it manifests in issues with self assertion that pertains to action. i can assert myself verbally about my opinions/thoughts but, getting what i actually desire, fuggedaboutit.
i also keep my deepest desire hidden. aint no one gonna know what i truly truly want.
i have a lot of insecurity in letting my real desires known, out of fear of embarrassment or that my desires are stupid. i also think that if i release my desires, they won't come to me.
i am also a secretive/ private person (pluto dominant, hello!) so letting everyone know what my motivation/desires are, is a no go for me.
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Oh yeah to the being a private person...only my closest friends and some of my family get to see 100% of the real me. Otherwise I'm guarded af with people.
Posted by lesenfantterriblesOk I get it Pluto dominant ! lol I'm very private myself .. I have to be very very close & comfortable with someone to tell them my motivations/desires - now that I think about it, I always still leave a little outPosted by SofiaV87nope! i like to keep my desires, motives, and real aspirations to myself. sometimes i will release nuggets to a partner or friend but it's not often.Posted by lesenfantterriblesDamn, nobody will ever know what u really want ?
i am a 12th aqua mars & i hate it.
if i want something (ie: career, romantic interest, creative project) i feel competant & capable & dream up of all the ways i'd be good at it but the actual action is always stunted. i drag my feet & sometimes will often doubt myself when it becomes actualized.
things getting set in motion really stresses me out & i'll retreat into my own dream world. i think it manifests in issues with self assertion that pertains to action. i can assert myself verbally about my opinions/thoughts but, getting what i actually desire, fuggedaboutit.
i also keep my deepest desire hidden. aint no one gonna know what i truly truly want.
i have a lot of insecurity in letting my real desires known, out of fear of embarrassment or that my desires are stupid. i also think that if i release my desires, they won't come to me.
i am also a secretive/ private person (pluto dominant, hello!) so letting everyone know what my motivation/desires are, is a no go for me.
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Posted by lesenfantterriblesI don't have any planets in the 8th or 12th house .. I don't think that sounds like you're a calculating person , just very secretive lolPosted by SofiaV87my moon is also in the 8th housePosted by lesenfantterriblesOk I get it Pluto dominant ! lol I'm very private myself .. I have to be very very close & comfortable with someone to tell them my motivations/desires - now that I think about it, I always still leave a little outPosted by SofiaV87nope! i like to keep my desires, motives, and real aspirations to myself. sometimes i will release nuggets to a partner or friend but it's not often.Posted by lesenfantterriblesDamn, nobody will ever know what u really want ?
i am a 12th aqua mars & i hate it.
if i want something (ie: career, romantic interest, creative project) i feel competant & capable & dream up of all the ways i'd be good at it but the actual action is always stunted. i drag my feet & sometimes will often doubt myself when it becomes actualized.
things getting set in motion really stresses me out & i'll retreat into my own dream world. i think it manifests in issues with self assertion that pertains to action. i can assert myself verbally about my opinions/thoughts but, getting what i actually desire, fuggedaboutit.
i also keep my deepest desire hidden. aint no one gonna know what i truly truly want.
i have a lot of insecurity in letting my real desires known, out of fear of embarrassment or that my desires are stupid. i also think that if i release my desires, they won't come to me.
i am also a secretive/ private person (pluto dominant, hello!) so letting everyone know what my motivation/desires are, is a no go for me.
"withholding" is one of my favorite words & concepts. i will give a little info nugget but always keep the rest for myself. i also like secrets. keeping things to myself, uncovering whatever is hidden, etc. i guess i find a power in that?
maybe this makes me sound like a calculating person actually lol but i cant help it ??♀️
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Posted by KoniuchaaPosted by Jules-llMe too!Posted by lesenfantterriblesPosted by SofiaV87nope! i like to keep my desires, motives, and real aspirations to myself. sometimes i will release nuggets to a partner or friend but it's not often.Posted by lesenfantterriblesDamn, nobody will ever know what u really want ?
i am a 12th aqua mars & i hate it.
if i want something (ie: career, romantic interest, creative project) i feel competant & capable & dream up of all the ways i'd be good at it but the actual action is always stunted. i drag my feet & sometimes will often doubt myself when it becomes actualized.
things getting set in motion really stresses me out & i'll retreat into my own dream world. i think it manifests in issues with self assertion that pertains to action. i can assert myself verbally about my opinions/thoughts but, getting what i actually desire, fuggedaboutit.
i also keep my deepest desire hidden. aint no one gonna know what i truly truly want.
i have a lot of insecurity in letting my real desires known, out of fear of embarrassment or that my desires are stupid. i also think that if i release my desires, they won't come to me.
i am also a secretive/ private person (pluto dominant, hello!) so letting everyone know what my motivation/desires are, is a no go for me.
Oh yeah to the being a private person...only my closest friends and some of my family get to see 100% of the real me. Otherwise I'm guarded af with people.
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I've always been a private person, but life experiences have made me guarded. Trusting the wrong people, having a lot of people I love walk away from me, and giving my love to people that took advantage of it have made me that way today.
I was thinking about it this morning, the two people in my life that have seen all of me are my sister and my best male friend. They have seen me in my worst painful moments in life, and have always loved me, allowed me to be raw and exposed, and had my back without ever judging. They're both Pisces...
Posted by Jules-llI'm not surprised they're both Pisces, they're truly some of the sweetest non judgemental ppl out here .. or ppl with Pisces placements ?? LolPosted by KoniuchaaPosted by Jules-llMe too!Posted by lesenfantterriblesPosted by SofiaV87nope! i like to keep my desires, motives, and real aspirations to myself. sometimes i will release nuggets to a partner or friend but it's not often.Posted by lesenfantterriblesDamn, nobody will ever know what u really want ?
i am a 12th aqua mars & i hate it.
if i want something (ie: career, romantic interest, creative project) i feel competant & capable & dream up of all the ways i'd be good at it but the actual action is always stunted. i drag my feet & sometimes will often doubt myself when it becomes actualized.
things getting set in motion really stresses me out & i'll retreat into my own dream world. i think it manifests in issues with self assertion that pertains to action. i can assert myself verbally about my opinions/thoughts but, getting what i actually desire, fuggedaboutit.
i also keep my deepest desire hidden. aint no one gonna know what i truly truly want.
i have a lot of insecurity in letting my real desires known, out of fear of embarrassment or that my desires are stupid. i also think that if i release my desires, they won't come to me.
i am also a secretive/ private person (pluto dominant, hello!) so letting everyone know what my motivation/desires are, is a no go for me.
Oh yeah to the being a private person...only my closest friends and some of my family get to see 100% of the real me. Otherwise I'm guarded af with people.
I've always been a private person, but life experiences have made me guarded. Trusting the wrong people, having a lot of people I love walk away from me, and giving my love to people that took advantage of it have made me that way today.
I was thinking about it this morning, the two people in my life that have seen all of me are my sister and my best male friend. They have seen me in my worst painful moments in life, and have always loved me, allowed me to be raw and exposed, and had my back without ever judging. They're both Pisces...
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Posted by TauruswithspunkYea me too .. do u mean u have libra on the 12th house cusp or a planet in libra in the 12th house ?
Libra is in my 12th house and it deals with evolving from pain and struggle like I'm destined to always experience hardships and come out a better person. It has been the story of my life really.
Posted by SofiaV87Posted by Jules-llI'm not surprised they're both Pisces, they're truly some of the sweetest non judgemental ppl out here .. or ppl with Pisces placements ?? LolPosted by KoniuchaaPosted by Jules-llMe too!Posted by lesenfantterriblesPosted by SofiaV87nope! i like to keep my desires, motives, and real aspirations to myself. sometimes i will release nuggets to a partner or friend but it's not often.Posted by lesenfantterriblesDamn, nobody will ever know what u really want ?
i am a 12th aqua mars & i hate it.
if i want something (ie: career, romantic interest, creative project) i feel competant & capable & dream up of all the ways i'd be good at it but the actual action is always stunted. i drag my feet & sometimes will often doubt myself when it becomes actualized.
things getting set in motion really stresses me out & i'll retreat into my own dream world. i think it manifests in issues with self assertion that pertains to action. i can assert myself verbally about my opinions/thoughts but, getting what i actually desire, fuggedaboutit.
i also keep my deepest desire hidden. aint no one gonna know what i truly truly want.
i have a lot of insecurity in letting my real desires known, out of fear of embarrassment or that my desires are stupid. i also think that if i release my desires, they won't come to me.
i am also a secretive/ private person (pluto dominant, hello!) so letting everyone know what my motivation/desires are, is a no go for me.
Oh yeah to the being a private person...only my closest friends and some of my family get to see 100% of the real me. Otherwise I'm guarded af with people.
I've always been a private person, but life experiences have made me guarded. Trusting the wrong people, having a lot of people I love walk away from me, and giving my love to people that took advantage of it have made me that way today.
I was thinking about it this morning, the two people in my life that have seen all of me are my sister and my best male friend. They have seen me in my worst painful moments in life, and have always loved me, allowed me to be raw and exposed, and had my back without ever judging. They're both Pisces...
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Yes, I agree! I've never dated a Pisces, but have gone on a couple of dates with one recently so we'll see what happens..
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