Feminine Sun in Feminine House with Masculine ASC

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"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
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Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428
All that feminine masks the masculine.

So now thst you know the answer. Ambitious close to being right how I described it to you?

Well the Ascendant will be there, just dormant for awhile.
Not sure I get what you mean. How do you mean the sun masks the ASC when you meet people? Or do you mean that since it's feminine on top of feminine, that it out trumps the masculine ASC? Or did I misunderstand?
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Um, I think this is me??

Scorpio sun in 10th house with Sag asc. But I have Neptune on my asc, so that changes it.

I have an introverted surface and then open up to certain people only.
So people don't get all shocked when they scratch the surface? Nice!🙂 ...or is it? Would you have liked that Sag ASC to be more visible?
No, they do get shocked I think. I sometimes hear that I am nicer than they thought. I do think both my Sag asc and Neptune is visible. I come of pretty changeable, I think.
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Hmm. Interesting. Must say I see both sag and pisces as nice signs and I'm pretty sure many perceive them to be "nicer" than scorpio and capricorn at first sight.
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I am earth, with earth in 11th, and water in asc. Haha. So you probably alittle different. I'm all feminine and very shy, closeout, and speak only when I need to, but assertive, and will voice out after I cess out. So so cautious...

So not sure what you experience but have fun.
Oh, so you have a feminine sun in a masculine house with a feminine ASC? That explains it.🙂
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Um, I think this is me??

Scorpio sun in 10th house with Sag asc. But I have Neptune on my asc, so that changes it.

I have an introverted surface and then open up to certain people only.
So people don't get all shocked when they scratch the surface? Nice!🙂 ...or is it? Would you have liked that Sag ASC to be more visible?
No, they do get shocked I think. I sometimes hear that I am nicer than they thought. I do think both my Sag asc and Neptune is visible. I come of pretty changeable, I think.
Hmm. Interesting. Must say I see both sag and pisces as nice signs and I'm pretty sure many perceive them to be "nicer" than scorpio and capricorn at first sight.
I think it is my moon square Pluto and maybe Saturn conj MC that make me seem intimidating. I have been told that a few times now.
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I never understood that. I mean, people seem to find me intimidating, but I have blamed other placements for that, since the moon energies are mostly directed inwardly compared to sun with house. Difficult for me to say since I have the same energies but in a different way(so to speak). May I ask, what other aspects do you have to your ASC?
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"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
Ehh, not really.

I have no effing clue what they first see me as.

Though eventually they love me to death and enjoy my company.
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"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
Ehh, not really.

I have no effing clue what they first see me as.

Though eventually they love me to death and enjoy my company.
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Hmm, when I think about it, aren't aries ASC seen as intimidating at times...so maybe people will be relieved when they find a Capricorn under there.🙂

Ofc they love you: you're a Capricorn. Duh.
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"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
Ehh, not really.

I have no effing clue what they first see me as.

Though eventually they love me to death and enjoy my company.
Hmm, when I think about it, aren't aries ASC seen as intimidating at times...so maybe people will be relieved when they find a Capricorn under there.🙂

Ofc they love you: you're a Capricorn. Duh.
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Right? 😏
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I get excluded and cut out of people's lives
I like that you posted here since it was our discussion that made me think of this.🙂

So you feel you don't even get the chance that a person with a masculine ASC gets? May be true. At least, when they do get to know you beyond your ASC, they won't turn 180 and run...after having gotten "false hope".

I mean, when they get further than your ASC, they are not likely to run - they don't feel betrayed by your "fake" personality(I'm saying fake since I feel people at times feel that I'm lying about my personality, by showing my gemini mask...which they later discover is not a large part of my personality. I do have a Gemini moon as well, but that is very much affected by being in the 2nd house and by its pluto square, so that's an entirely different thing.)

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"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
Ehh, not really.

I have no effing clue what they first see me as.

Though eventually they love me to death and enjoy my company.
Hmm, when I think about it, aren't aries ASC seen as intimidating at times...so maybe people will be relieved when they find a Capricorn under there.🙂

Ofc they love you: you're a Capricorn. Duh.
Right? 😏
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Right. *nods knowingly*
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Um, I think this is me??

Scorpio sun in 10th house with Sag asc. But I have Neptune on my asc, so that changes it.

I have an introverted surface and then open up to certain people only.
So people don't get all shocked when they scratch the surface? Nice!🙂 ...or is it? Would you have liked that Sag ASC to be more visible?
No, they do get shocked I think. I sometimes hear that I am nicer than they thought. I do think both my Sag asc and Neptune is visible. I come of pretty changeable, I think.
Hmm. Interesting. Must say I see both sag and pisces as nice signs and I'm pretty sure many perceive them to be "nicer" than scorpio and capricorn at first sight.
I think it is my moon square Pluto and maybe Saturn conj MC that make me seem intimidating. I have been told that a few times now.
I never understood that. I mean, people seem to find me intimidating, but I have blamed other placements for that, since the moon energies are mostly directed inwardly compared to sun with house. Difficult for me to say since I have the same energies but in a different way(so to speak). May I ask, what other aspects do you have to your ASC?
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Pluto sextile

Mars conj

Neptune conj

Moon inconjunct

Venus square
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Thank you!🙂

Well, if it's conj mars and sextile pluto, that may have something to do with it?
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Um, I think this is me??

Scorpio sun in 10th house with Sag asc. But I have Neptune on my asc, so that changes it.

I have an introverted surface and then open up to certain people only.
So people don't get all shocked when they scratch the surface? Nice!🙂 ...or is it? Would you have liked that Sag ASC to be more visible?
No, they do get shocked I think. I sometimes hear that I am nicer than they thought. I do think both my Sag asc and Neptune is visible. I come of pretty changeable, I think.
Hmm. Interesting. Must say I see both sag and pisces as nice signs and I'm pretty sure many perceive them to be "nicer" than scorpio and capricorn at first sight.
I think it is my moon square Pluto and maybe Saturn conj MC that make me seem intimidating. I have been told that a few times now.
I never understood that. I mean, people seem to find me intimidating, but I have blamed other placements for that, since the moon energies are mostly directed inwardly compared to sun with house. Difficult for me to say since I have the same energies but in a different way(so to speak). May I ask, what other aspects do you have to your ASC?
Here goes

Pluto sextile

Mars conj

Neptune conj

Moon inconjunct

Venus square
Thank you!🙂

Well, if it's conj mars and sextile pluto, that may have something to do with it?
Could be. Mars is about 7 º away, so it's wider. And its in my 12th, which weakens it significantly.

I know the moon is emotions and is inward, but I feel people can notice that, especially if it's strong. Honestly, I more look at people as their moon sign.
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But it's in sag, if I'm not mistaken, and in mars, I always thought of that as being pretty strong. But in the 12th house...yes, that would make it "nicer". Do you feel more like a cancer than a scorpio?
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Ah. Is that consistent with Pullen? Sorry for all the questions, but it's interesting!🙂
No it's fine!

Pullen says I am Jupiter ruled, and Libra.

And Jupiter is the ancient ruler of Pisces. Still considered co ruler
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Thanks.🙂

But Neptune can't be far behind. If I remember correctly, it touches nearly all personal planets in your chart...except for what's in the 12th house?
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Ah. Is that consistent with Pullen? Sorry for all the questions, but it's interesting!🙂
No it's fine!

Pullen says I am Jupiter ruled, and Libra.

And Jupiter is the ancient ruler of Pisces. Still considered co ruler
Thanks.🙂

But Neptune can't be far behind. If I remember correctly, it touches nearly all personal planets in your chart...except for what's in the 12th house?
Yes. I also have Mars in my 12th and it is conj Neptune
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Well, no wonder. That sounds highly neptunian to me. Let me guess: your Neptune is not very high(or possibly medium) up in the positions column in the Pullen planet ranking list? Or at least lower than Jupiter, in comparison?
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Ah. Is that consistent with Pullen? Sorry for all the questions, but it's interesting!🙂
No it's fine!

Pullen says I am Jupiter ruled, and Libra.

And Jupiter is the ancient ruler of Pisces. Still considered co ruler
Thanks.🙂

But Neptune can't be far behind. If I remember correctly, it touches nearly all personal planets in your chart...except for what's in the 12th house?
Yes. I also have Mars in my 12th and it is conj Neptune
Well, no wonder. That sounds highly neptunian to me. Let me guess: your Neptune is not very high(or possibly medium) up in the positions column in the Pullen planet ranking list? Or at least lower than Jupiter, in comparison?
It is number 6 🙂
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Hehehe. Well, there you go.🙂 This is why I don't get the positions column in Pullen planet ranking - how is that important? Sure, give half an extra point if the planet is in its home, but...🙂