"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
Feminine Sun in Feminine House with Masculine ASC

So earth sun in what earth house? And which Asc?

I still believe with that you attract the feminine introverted traits so maybe your low key and quiet and alot less masculine energy not loud so no one would know you were there idk.....
Posted by KoniuchaaSo people don't get all shocked when they scratch the surface? Nice!🙂 ...or is it? Would you have liked that Sag ASC to be more visible?
Um, I think this is me??
Scorpio sun in 10th house with Sag asc. But I have Neptune on my asc, so that changes it.
I have an introverted surface and then open up to certain people only.
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Earth or water sun sign in earth or water house with air or fire ASC.🙂
So earth sun in what earth house? And which Asc?
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Even with a masculine ASC?
I still believe with that you attract the feminine introverted traits so maybe your low key and quiet and alot less masculine energy not loud so no one would know you were there idk.....

All that feminine masks the masculine.
So now thst you know the answer. Ambitious close to being right how I described it to you?
Well the Ascendant will be there, just dormant for awhile.
So now thst you know the answer. Ambitious close to being right how I described it to you?
Well the Ascendant will be there, just dormant for awhile.
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Not sure I get what you mean. How do you mean the sun masks the ASC when you meet people? Or do you mean that since it's feminine on top of feminine, that it out trumps the masculine ASC? Or did I misunderstand?
All that feminine masks the masculine.
So now thst you know the answer. Ambitious close to being right how I described it to you?
Well the Ascendant will be there, just dormant for awhile.

Right or so I think that how it works. Elements over another element. Yeah so that second one is what I am saying.
Posted by KoniuchaaHmm. Interesting. Must say I see both sag and pisces as nice signs and I'm pretty sure many perceive them to be "nicer" than scorpio and capricorn at first sight.Posted by HappyCapperNo, they do get shocked I think. I sometimes hear that I am nicer than they thought. I do think both my Sag asc and Neptune is visible. I come of pretty changeable, I think.Posted by KoniuchaaSo people don't get all shocked when they scratch the surface? Nice!🙂 ...or is it? Would you have liked that Sag ASC to be more visible?
Um, I think this is me??
Scorpio sun in 10th house with Sag asc. But I have Neptune on my asc, so that changes it.
I have an introverted surface and then open up to certain people only.click to expand
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Interesting. Not my experience, but then I'm not alone with this combo.🙂
Right or so I think that how it works. Elements over another element. Yeah so that second one is what I am saying.

I am earth, with earth in 11th, and water in asc. Haha. So you probably alittle different. I'm all feminine and very shy, closeout, and speak only when I need to, but assertive, and will voice out after I cess out. So so cautious...
So not sure what you experience but have fun.
So not sure what you experience but have fun.
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Oh, so you have a feminine sun in a masculine house with a feminine ASC? That explains it.🙂
I am earth, with earth in 11th, and water in asc. Haha. So you probably alittle different. I'm all feminine and very shy, closeout, and speak only when I need to, but assertive, and will voice out after I cess out. So so cautious...
So not sure what you experience but have fun.
Posted by KoniuchaaI never understood that. I mean, people seem to find me intimidating, but I have blamed other placements for that, since the moon energies are mostly directed inwardly compared to sun with house. Difficult for me to say since I have the same energies but in a different way(so to speak). May I ask, what other aspects do you have to your ASC?Posted by HappyCapperI think it is my moon square Pluto and maybe Saturn conj MC that make me seem intimidating. I have been told that a few times now.Posted by KoniuchaaHmm. Interesting. Must say I see both sag and pisces as nice signs and I'm pretty sure many perceive them to be "nicer" than scorpio and capricorn at first sight.Posted by HappyCapperNo, they do get shocked I think. I sometimes hear that I am nicer than they thought. I do think both my Sag asc and Neptune is visible. I come of pretty changeable, I think.Posted by KoniuchaaSo people don't get all shocked when they scratch the surface? Nice!🙂 ...or is it? Would you have liked that Sag ASC to be more visible?
Um, I think this is me??
Scorpio sun in 10th house with Sag asc. But I have Neptune on my asc, so that changes it.
I have an introverted surface and then open up to certain people only.click to expand

Posted by HappyCapperEhh, not really.
"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
I have no effing clue what they first see me as.
Though eventually they love me to death and enjoy my company.
Posted by SirHornsHmm, when I think about it, aren't aries ASC seen as intimidating at times...so maybe people will be relieved when they find a Capricorn under there.🙂Posted by HappyCapperEhh, not really.
"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
I have no effing clue what they first see me as.
Though eventually they love me to death and enjoy my company.click to expand
Ofc they love you: you're a Capricorn. Duh.

Oh probably too cute and intimidating at first. Like should I approach you or not. Haha my rising be like peeping you out then smile a little then disappear for awhile til next time.

Posted by HappyCapperRight? 😏Posted by SirHornsHmm, when I think about it, aren't aries ASC seen as intimidating at times...so maybe people will be relieved when they find a Capricorn under there.🙂Posted by HappyCapperEhh, not really.
"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
I have no effing clue what they first see me as.
Though eventually they love me to death and enjoy my company.
Ofc they love you: you're a Capricorn. Duh.click to expand
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428That's sweet.🙂
Oh probably too cute and intimidating at first. Like should I approach you or not. Haha my rising be like peeping you out then smile a little then disappear for awhile til next time.
Posted by RyokoI like that you posted here since it was our discussion that made me think of this.🙂
I get excluded and cut out of people's lives
So you feel you don't even get the chance that a person with a masculine ASC gets? May be true. At least, when they do get to know you beyond your ASC, they won't turn 180 and run...after having gotten "false hope".
I mean, when they get further than your ASC, they are not likely to run - they don't feel betrayed by your "fake" personality(I'm saying fake since I feel people at times feel that I'm lying about my personality, by showing my gemini mask...which they later discover is not a large part of my personality. I do have a Gemini moon as well, but that is very much affected by being in the 2nd house and by its pluto square, so that's an entirely different thing.)
Posted by SirHornsRight. *nods knowingly*Posted by HappyCapperRight? 😏Posted by SirHornsHmm, when I think about it, aren't aries ASC seen as intimidating at times...so maybe people will be relieved when they find a Capricorn under there.🙂Posted by HappyCapperEhh, not really.
"Everybody knows" that people tend to relax and become more open and more friendly as you get to know them. How does this phenomena work for you? What I mean is that in your case, people tend to get the opposite - they scratch the extroverted surface and find an introvert and perhaps a raised guard. If this is your experience, how do the people around you handle this and how do you handle it?
I have no effing clue what they first see me as.
Though eventually they love me to death and enjoy my company.
Ofc they love you: you're a Capricorn. Duh.click to expand
Posted by KoniuchaaThank you!🙂Posted by HappyCapperHere goesPosted by KoniuchaaI never understood that. I mean, people seem to find me intimidating, but I have blamed other placements for that, since the moon energies are mostly directed inwardly compared to sun with house. Difficult for me to say since I have the same energies but in a different way(so to speak). May I ask, what other aspects do you have to your ASC?Posted by HappyCapperI think it is my moon square Pluto and maybe Saturn conj MC that make me seem intimidating. I have been told that a few times now.Posted by KoniuchaaHmm. Interesting. Must say I see both sag and pisces as nice signs and I'm pretty sure many perceive them to be "nicer" than scorpio and capricorn at first sight.Posted by HappyCapperNo, they do get shocked I think. I sometimes hear that I am nicer than they thought. I do think both my Sag asc and Neptune is visible. I come of pretty changeable, I think.Posted by KoniuchaaSo people don't get all shocked when they scratch the surface? Nice!🙂 ...or is it? Would you have liked that Sag ASC to be more visible?
Um, I think this is me??
Scorpio sun in 10th house with Sag asc. But I have Neptune on my asc, so that changes it.
I have an introverted surface and then open up to certain people only.
Pluto sextile
Mars conj
Neptune conj
Moon inconjunct
Venus squareclick to expand
Well, if it's conj mars and sextile pluto, that may have something to do with it?
Posted by KoniuchaaBut it's in sag, if I'm not mistaken, and in mars, I always thought of that as being pretty strong. But in the 12th house...yes, that would make it "nicer". Do you feel more like a cancer than a scorpio?Posted by HappyCapperCould be. Mars is about 7 º away, so it's wider. And its in my 12th, which weakens it significantly.Posted by KoniuchaaThank you!🙂Posted by HappyCapperHere goesPosted by KoniuchaaI never understood that. I mean, people seem to find me intimidating, but I have blamed other placements for that, since the moon energies are mostly directed inwardly compared to sun with house. Difficult for me to say since I have the same energies but in a different way(so to speak). May I ask, what other aspects do you have to your ASC?Posted by HappyCapperI think it is my moon square Pluto and maybe Saturn conj MC that make me seem intimidating. I have been told that a few times now.Posted by KoniuchaaHmm. Interesting. Must say I see both sag and pisces as nice signs and I'm pretty sure many perceive them to be "nicer" than scorpio and capricorn at first sight.Posted by HappyCapperNo, they do get shocked I think. I sometimes hear that I am nicer than they thought. I do think both my Sag asc and Neptune is visible. I come of pretty changeable, I think.Posted by KoniuchaaSo people don't get all shocked when they scratch the surface? Nice!🙂 ...or is it? Would you have liked that Sag ASC to be more visible?
Um, I think this is me??
Scorpio sun in 10th house with Sag asc. But I have Neptune on my asc, so that changes it.
I have an introverted surface and then open up to certain people only.
Pluto sextile
Mars conj
Neptune conj
Moon inconjunct
Venus square
Well, if it's conj mars and sextile pluto, that may have something to do with it?
I know the moon is emotions and is inward, but I feel people can notice that, especially if it's strong. Honestly, I more look at people as their moon sign.click to expand
@Koniuchaa
Ah. Is that consistent with Pullen? Sorry for all the questions, but it's interesting!🙂
Ah. Is that consistent with Pullen? Sorry for all the questions, but it's interesting!🙂
Posted by KoniuchaaThanks.🙂Posted by HappyCapperNo it's fine!
@Koniuchaa
Ah. Is that consistent with Pullen? Sorry for all the questions, but it's interesting!🙂
Pullen says I am Jupiter ruled, and Libra.
And Jupiter is the ancient ruler of Pisces. Still considered co rulerclick to expand
But Neptune can't be far behind. If I remember correctly, it touches nearly all personal planets in your chart...except for what's in the 12th house?
Posted by EllycakesAre you talking to Koniuchaa or me?🙂
Do you have anything aspecting your ascendant? If not do you have anything aspecting the ruler of the ascendant?
Posted by KoniuchaaWell, no wonder. That sounds highly neptunian to me. Let me guess: your Neptune is not very high(or possibly medium) up in the positions column in the Pullen planet ranking list? Or at least lower than Jupiter, in comparison?Posted by HappyCapperYes. I also have Mars in my 12th and it is conj NeptunePosted by KoniuchaaThanks.🙂Posted by HappyCapperNo it's fine!
@Koniuchaa
Ah. Is that consistent with Pullen? Sorry for all the questions, but it's interesting!🙂
Pullen says I am Jupiter ruled, and Libra.
And Jupiter is the ancient ruler of Pisces. Still considered co ruler
But Neptune can't be far behind. If I remember correctly, it touches nearly all personal planets in your chart...except for what's in the 12th house?click to expand
Posted by KoniuchaaHehehe. Well, there you go.🙂 This is why I don't get the positions column in Pullen planet ranking - how is that important? Sure, give half an extra point if the planet is in its home, but...🙂Posted by HappyCapperIt is number 6 🙂Posted by KoniuchaaWell, no wonder. That sounds highly neptunian to me. Let me guess: your Neptune is not very high(or possibly medium) up in the positions column in the Pullen planet ranking list? Or at least lower than Jupiter, in comparison?Posted by HappyCapperYes. I also have Mars in my 12th and it is conj NeptunePosted by KoniuchaaThanks.🙂Posted by HappyCapperNo it's fine!
@Koniuchaa
Ah. Is that consistent with Pullen? Sorry for all the questions, but it's interesting!🙂
Pullen says I am Jupiter ruled, and Libra.
And Jupiter is the ancient ruler of Pisces. Still considered co ruler
But Neptune can't be far behind. If I remember correctly, it touches nearly all personal planets in your chart...except for what's in the 12th house?click to expand
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