eternally-dilapidated
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HELP! All my personal planets are doomed.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollWell, I dont think its 'bad' per se, but I do find it to be confusing especially when I dont relate to the placements.Posted by eternally-dilapidatedIf you think your chart is that bad, I’d stear clear of astrology all together. It’ll just make you feel paranoid.
Please help me figure out my chart. All my personal planets are either in fall or detriment, and I really do feel that in myself.
I'm happy when I should be sad, I'm aggressive when I need to be gentle, and I'm generally confused about who I am!
Any advice is welcome, especially relating to communication, relationships and self development.
Here my chart:
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-birth-chart-horoscope-online/?send_calculation=1&narozeni_den=17&narozeni_mesic=2&narozeni_rok=1993&narozeni_hodina=17&narozeni_minuta=30&narozeni_city=Peshawar% 2C+Pakistan&narozeni_mesto_hidden=Peshawar&narozeni_stat_hidden=PK&narozeni_podstat_kratky_hidden=Khyber+Pakhtunkhwa&narozeni_podstat_hidden=Khyber+Pakhtunkhwa&narozeni_podstat2_kratky_hidden=Peshawar&narozeni_podstat3_kratky_hidden=Peshawar&narozeni_input_hidden=Peshawar% 2C+Pakistan&narozeni_sirka_stupne=34&narozeni_sirka_minuty=1&narozeni_sirka_smer=0&narozeni_delka_stupne=71&narozeni_delka_minuty=31&narozeni_delka_smer=0&narozeni_timezone_form=auto&narozeni_timezone_dst_form=auto&house_system=equal&hid_chiron=1&hid_chiron_check=on&hid_lilith=1&hid_lilith_check=on&hid_uzel=1&hid_uzel_check=on&tolerance=1&hid_chiron_asp=on&hid_lilith_asp=on&hid_uzel_asp=on&hid_asc_asp=on&tolerance_paral=1.2&zmena_nastaveni=1&aktivni_tab=2&redraw_button=Redraw#tabs_redrawclick to expand
So naturally I'm inclined to learning more about it, than making a run for it. ☺
Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1Thank you for that lovely reply! I completely agree that we have the free will to effect any change in us we would like to see, but its also helpful to see what's causing that issue in order to come up with better solutions.
It's true some of your basic placements are a bit difficult.... Mine are too, a lot of people's actually.
No reason to worry. Our charts purpose is not to make us worried or anything shown in the chart is not fatal. We have free will.
So I suggest if you are interested in this... Read online descriptions planet in sign and house and then aspects between planets.
If you find all this too difficult just focus on what you want in your life and go for that. Examine yourself. What holds you back. Create a plan to start with. And forget about the chart. A common mistake is when we see a chart we persuade ourselves... That this is who we are and that does not change.
These are natal charts. We can say they show quite well who we were when we were born, the situation around us, our parents. Yes they create strong tendencies and potential. Yes you may recognize your chart on yourself. I do too.
But people mature and change and get better with time, that's why progressed charts are drawn too. Try to find your progressed I think, not very sure for that though, it shows where your birth placements have move into the chart till now. Hope that helps 🙂
I have read quite a bit on my planets, houses and aspects but those dont really make it clear how they would interact with the rest of your chart.
I do have my progressive chart, and that has helped for example my asc, sun and moon have changed.. I'll read up more on those too. ❤
You have a unique chart (:
And a Grand Cross pattern. Never seen that here.
And a Grand Cross pattern. Never seen that here.
Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1All of what you've said is so true! I actually do feel a constant need to heal myself and also those around me. Very interesting.Posted by eternally-dilapidatedI am happy I was able to help!! Also a planet in detriment or fall doesn't mean it's burnt out... It means it has a different expression of what is considered the best expression of the particular planet.Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1Thank you for that lovely reply! I completely agree that we have the free will to effect any change in us we would like to see, but its also helpful to see what's causing that issue in order to come up with better solutions.
It's true some of your basic placements are a bit difficult.... Mine are too, a lot of people's actually.
No reason to worry. Our charts purpose is not to make us worried or anything shown in the chart is not fatal. We have free will.
So I suggest if you are interested in this... Read online descriptions planet in sign and house and then aspects between planets.
If you find all this too difficult just focus on what you want in your life and go for that. Examine yourself. What holds you back. Create a plan to start with. And forget about the chart. A common mistake is when we see a chart we persuade ourselves... That this is who we are and that does not change.
These are natal charts. We can say they show quite well who we were when we were born, the situation around us, our parents. Yes they create strong tendencies and potential. Yes you may recognize your chart on yourself. I do too.
But people mature and change and get better with time, that's why progressed charts are drawn too. Try to find your progressed I think, not very sure for that though, it shows where your birth placements have move into the chart till now. Hope that helps 🙂
I have read quite a bit on my planets, houses and aspects but those dont really make it clear how they would interact with the rest of your chart.
I do have my progressive chart, and that has helped for example my asc, sun and moon have changed.. I'll read up more on those too. ❤
Some examples of this are. Aspects are the most important but I am going to tell you my view on the sun. Sun in Astrology is our ego, our inner self, who we identify ourselves as and our goal in life. We may have some characteristics of our sun already but in general it's something we go to. Ascendant on the other hand is natural expression, is your first response to something and how you act when you don't think about it, also how you appear to others.
You have a strong Ascendant in Leo to begin with conjuct Chiron, that could mean you are going to take some action in order to heal yourself from things... Mostly emotionally or connected to self image, confidence. Chiron represents healing.
As for your Sun. A sun in Aquarius in 7th could show a person who wants to change for the better(Aquarius)people around him like his coworkers or partners(7th) .The person actually wants to help them. But we can't change other people, we can only inspire them to change.
So if you potentially try directly to change others cause you see something in them that needs to be changed, you could begin from yourself. Leo Ascendant draws the focus to yourself. It even draws other people focus to you. You care a lot about self expression and your image. You are proud, have a good image of how you engage in your interactions and appear to the world. You may actually identify as a healer (Chiron conjuct Ascendant). So yes. All these could maybe happen. But you need to look on the whole chart. Sometimes aspects or points or anything contradict it's other and surpass the basics. So look in the chart and combine everything. 🙂
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And youre right, only now have I come to realize people won't change because I want them to or try to convince them to.. They have to make the move themselves.
Thank you for that!
Posted by AerialViewOh, really? That's so interesting. Could you elaborate?
You have a unique chart (:
And a Grand Cross pattern. Never seen that here.
And btw your placements! So many of the same zodiacs. 😃
Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1Haha, I totally know what you mean! Its so crazy how much it tells us, the sheer quantity even, let alone the quality, of the info is overwhelming!Posted by eternally-dilapidatedYou are welcome! I am always happy and impressed when a birth chart can tell you so many things about a person you know anything about and myself too. 🙂 Astrology has to be real and I still can't believe it hahah.Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1All of what you've said is so true! I actually do feel a constant need to heal myself and also those around me. Very interesting.Posted by eternally-dilapidatedI am happy I was able to help!! Also a planet in detriment or fall doesn't mean it's burnt out... It means it has a different expression of what is considered the best expression of the particular planet.Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1Thank you for that lovely reply! I completely agree that we have the free will to effect any change in us we would like to see, but its also helpful to see what's causing that issue in order to come up with better solutions.
It's true some of your basic placements are a bit difficult.... Mine are too, a lot of people's actually.
No reason to worry. Our charts purpose is not to make us worried or anything shown in the chart is not fatal. We have free will.
So I suggest if you are interested in this... Read online descriptions planet in sign and house and then aspects between planets.
If you find all this too difficult just focus on what you want in your life and go for that. Examine yourself. What holds you back. Create a plan to start with. And forget about the chart. A common mistake is when we see a chart we persuade ourselves... That this is who we are and that does not change.
These are natal charts. We can say they show quite well who we were when we were born, the situation around us, our parents. Yes they create strong tendencies and potential. Yes you may recognize your chart on yourself. I do too.
But people mature and change and get better with time, that's why progressed charts are drawn too. Try to find your progressed I think, not very sure for that though, it shows where your birth placements have move into the chart till now. Hope that helps 🙂
I have read quite a bit on my planets, houses and aspects but those dont really make it clear how they would interact with the rest of your chart.
I do have my progressive chart, and that has helped for example my asc, sun and moon have changed.. I'll read up more on those too. ❤
Some examples of this are. Aspects are the most important but I am going to tell you my view on the sun. Sun in Astrology is our ego, our inner self, who we identify ourselves as and our goal in life. We may have some characteristics of our sun already but in general it's something we go to. Ascendant on the other hand is natural expression, is your first response to something and how you act when you don't think about it, also how you appear to others.
You have a strong Ascendant in Leo to begin with conjuct Chiron, that could mean you are going to take some action in order to heal yourself from things... Mostly emotionally or connected to self image, confidence. Chiron represents healing.
As for your Sun. A sun in Aquarius in 7th could show a person who wants to change for the better(Aquarius)people around him like his coworkers or partners(7th) .The person actually wants to help them. But we can't change other people, we can only inspire them to change.
So if you potentially try directly to change others cause you see something in them that needs to be changed, you could begin from yourself. Leo Ascendant draws the focus to yourself. It even draws other people focus to you. You care a lot about self expression and your image. You are proud, have a good image of how you engage in your interactions and appear to the world. You may actually identify as a healer (Chiron conjuct Ascendant). So yes. All these could maybe happen. But you need to look on the whole chart. Sometimes aspects or points or anything contradict it's other and surpass the basics. So look in the chart and combine everything. 🙂
And youre right, only now have I come to realize people won't change because I want them to or try to convince them to.. They have to make the move themselves.
Thank you for that!click to expand
I think its logically hard to be against it unless you'd rather remain in ignorance 😂
Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1There. Is. So. Much. Its not even funny.. There's another forum, and the people there go in such scholarly depth into it, I don't even understand. But its so interesting, right? Makes you curious to know more.Posted by eternally-dilapidatedPosted by ChocolateHazelnut1Haha, I totally know what you mean! Its so crazy how much it tells us, the sheer quantity even, let alone the quality, of the info is overwhelming!Posted by eternally-dilapidatedYou are welcome! I am always happy and impressed when a birth chart can tell you so many things about a person you know anything about and myself too. 🙂 Astrology has to be real and I still can't believe it hahah.Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1All of what you've said is so true! I actually do feel a constant need to heal myself and also those around me. Very interesting.Posted by eternally-dilapidatedI am happy I was able to help!! Also a planet in detriment or fall doesn't mean it's burnt out... It means it has a different expression of what is considered the best expression of the particular planet.Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1Thank you for that lovely reply! I completely agree that we have the free will to effect any change in us we would like to see, but its also helpful to see what's causing that issue in order to come up with better solutions.
It's true some of your basic placements are a bit difficult.... Mine are too, a lot of people's actually.
No reason to worry. Our charts purpose is not to make us worried or anything shown in the chart is not fatal. We have free will.
So I suggest if you are interested in this... Read online descriptions planet in sign and house and then aspects between planets.
If you find all this too difficult just focus on what you want in your life and go for that. Examine yourself. What holds you back. Create a plan to start with. And forget about the chart. A common mistake is when we see a chart we persuade ourselves... That this is who we are and that does not change.
These are natal charts. We can say they show quite well who we were when we were born, the situation around us, our parents. Yes they create strong tendencies and potential. Yes you may recognize your chart on yourself. I do too.
But people mature and change and get better with time, that's why progressed charts are drawn too. Try to find your progressed I think, not very sure for that though, it shows where your birth placements have move into the chart till now. Hope that helps 🙂
I have read quite a bit on my planets, houses and aspects but those dont really make it clear how they would interact with the rest of your chart.
I do have my progressive chart, and that has helped for example my asc, sun and moon have changed.. I'll read up more on those too. ❤
Some examples of this are. Aspects are the most important but I am going to tell you my view on the sun. Sun in Astrology is our ego, our inner self, who we identify ourselves as and our goal in life. We may have some characteristics of our sun already but in general it's something we go to. Ascendant on the other hand is natural expression, is your first response to something and how you act when you don't think about it, also how you appear to others.
You have a strong Ascendant in Leo to begin with conjuct Chiron, that could mean you are going to take some action in order to heal yourself from things... Mostly emotionally or connected to self image, confidence. Chiron represents healing.
As for your Sun. A sun in Aquarius in 7th could show a person who wants to change for the better(Aquarius)people around him like his coworkers or partners(7th) .The person actually wants to help them. But we can't change other people, we can only inspire them to change.
So if you potentially try directly to change others cause you see something in them that needs to be changed, you could begin from yourself. Leo Ascendant draws the focus to yourself. It even draws other people focus to you. You care a lot about self expression and your image. You are proud, have a good image of how you engage in your interactions and appear to the world. You may actually identify as a healer (Chiron conjuct Ascendant). So yes. All these could maybe happen. But you need to look on the whole chart. Sometimes aspects or points or anything contradict it's other and surpass the basics. So look in the chart and combine everything. 🙂
And youre right, only now have I come to realize people won't change because I want them to or try to convince them to.. They have to make the move themselves.
Thank you for that!
I think its logically hard to be against it unless you'd rather remain in ignorance 😂
Thats true! But there are so many things in Astrology you need to learn to get a good picture. I have been reading for three years now and I am still in the beginning... Also in my country people think astrology is funny and fake.... I am the only one so invested in it in all of my social circle. :p
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Same could be said about numerology or palmistry though, I feel like. They're all just a very different kind of knowledge.
Haha same! Everyone I live with will probably check their horoscope for fun, but don't really care, and esp not as much as me. But they just aren't woke, are they 😏
Posted by eternally-dilapidated@Squishy_Marshmallow help this fellow out.Posted by AerialViewOh, really? That's so interesting. Could you elaborate?
You have a unique chart (:
And a Grand Cross pattern. Never seen that here.
And btw your placements! So many of the same zodiacs. 😃
click to expand
I remember when I showed you Seleukos chart and turned out you get along well with him hehe.
My chart is quite common! Mostly two and three pairings (:
Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1No problem at all! www.astrologyweekly.com/forumPosted by eternally-dilapidatedExactly. What's the name of the other site, I would like to join to it if you don't mind to share.Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1There. Is. So. Much. Its not even funny.. There's another forum, and the people there go in such scholarly depth into it, I don't even understand. But its so interesting, right? Makes you curious to know more.Posted by eternally-dilapidatedPosted by ChocolateHazelnut1Haha, I totally know what you mean! Its so crazy how much it tells us, the sheer quantity even, let alone the quality, of the info is overwhelming!Posted by eternally-dilapidatedYou are welcome! I am always happy and impressed when a birth chart can tell you so many things about a person you know anything about and myself too. 🙂 Astrology has to be real and I still can't believe it hahah.Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1All of what you've said is so true! I actually do feel a constant need to heal myself and also those around me. Very interesting.Posted by eternally-dilapidatedI am happy I was able to help!! Also a planet in detriment or fall doesn't mean it's burnt out... It means it has a different expression of what is considered the best expression of the particular planet.Posted by ChocolateHazelnut1Thank you for that lovely reply! I completely agree that we have the free will to effect any change in us we would like to see, but its also helpful to see what's causing that issue in order to come up with better solutions.
It's true some of your basic placements are a bit difficult.... Mine are too, a lot of people's actually.
No reason to worry. Our charts purpose is not to make us worried or anything shown in the chart is not fatal. We have free will.
So I suggest if you are interested in this... Read online descriptions planet in sign and house and then aspects between planets.
If you find all this too difficult just focus on what you want in your life and go for that. Examine yourself. What holds you back. Create a plan to start with. And forget about the chart. A common mistake is when we see a chart we persuade ourselves... That this is who we are and that does not change.
These are natal charts. We can say they show quite well who we were when we were born, the situation around us, our parents. Yes they create strong tendencies and potential. Yes you may recognize your chart on yourself. I do too.
But people mature and change and get better with time, that's why progressed charts are drawn too. Try to find your progressed I think, not very sure for that though, it shows where your birth placements have move into the chart till now. Hope that helps 🙂
I have read quite a bit on my planets, houses and aspects but those dont really make it clear how they would interact with the rest of your chart.
I do have my progressive chart, and that has helped for example my asc, sun and moon have changed.. I'll read up more on those too. ❤
Some examples of this are. Aspects are the most important but I am going to tell you my view on the sun. Sun in Astrology is our ego, our inner self, who we identify ourselves as and our goal in life. We may have some characteristics of our sun already but in general it's something we go to. Ascendant on the other hand is natural expression, is your first response to something and how you act when you don't think about it, also how you appear to others.
You have a strong Ascendant in Leo to begin with conjuct Chiron, that could mean you are going to take some action in order to heal yourself from things... Mostly emotionally or connected to self image, confidence. Chiron represents healing.
As for your Sun. A sun in Aquarius in 7th could show a person who wants to change for the better(Aquarius)people around him like his coworkers or partners(7th) .The person actually wants to help them. But we can't change other people, we can only inspire them to change.
So if you potentially try directly to change others cause you see something in them that needs to be changed, you could begin from yourself. Leo Ascendant draws the focus to yourself. It even draws other people focus to you. You care a lot about self expression and your image. You are proud, have a good image of how you engage in your interactions and appear to the world. You may actually identify as a healer (Chiron conjuct Ascendant). So yes. All these could maybe happen. But you need to look on the whole chart. Sometimes aspects or points or anything contradict it's other and surpass the basics. So look in the chart and combine everything. 🙂
And youre right, only now have I come to realize people won't change because I want them to or try to convince them to.. They have to make the move themselves.
Thank you for that!
I think its logically hard to be against it unless you'd rather remain in ignorance 😂
Thats true! But there are so many things in Astrology you need to learn to get a good picture. I have been reading for three years now and I am still in the beginning... Also in my country people think astrology is funny and fake.... I am the only one so invested in it in all of my social circle. :p
Same could be said about numerology or palmistry though, I feel like. They're all just a very different kind of knowledge.
Haha same! Everyone I live with will probably check their horoscope for fun, but don't really care, and esp not as much as me. But they just aren't woke, are they 😏
The more I learn, the accuracy of the descriptions becomes scary. So I can't let it go either. I got an impression of it and I want to learn more too.
Its normal for people to think astrology is fake cause it's not scientifically proven I think, only statistically to a degree. People today treat science like the ultimate God. Like medicine can cure everything. Alternative things dont even interest them. Doubting things in general is too much for them.
Also in my country TV programs are full of astrologers making predictions on sun signs...... That's all. People think this is astrology. It's normal not to believe in this after all. I have the same feeling about palmistry and stuff too and I am very very interested to find out. 😄click to expand
Hope you like it! 😊
Yess, very true! We're very fixated with information that we can see and touch, and we don't pay enough attention to spirituality, metaphysics and other fields that we don't have an understanding of (even though personally I feel like we should focus more on thing we actually have no clue about). Its a misconception that doubt equals weakness, when in fact its the first step to growth.
Haha ooh those tv shows!! I know what you mean. People have no idea at all what even astrology is and then they don't even bother to understand. Oh well, can't be helped.
Same here, theyre very cool fields! Though I feel like astrology is more comprehensive because of the amount of info available on it comparatively
Posted by AerialViewThanks for referring! 😊Posted by eternally-dilapidated@Squishy_Marshmallow help this fellow out.Posted by AerialViewOh, really? That's so interesting. Could you elaborate?
You have a unique chart (:
And a Grand Cross pattern. Never seen that here.
And btw your placements! So many of the same zodiacs. 😃
I remember when I showed you Seleukos chart and turned out you get along well with him hehe.
My chart is quite common! Mostly two and three pairings (:click to expand
Oh is it? Usually people have a random collection, I feel, not as many repeats. Must be relaxing to have some consistency like that.
Posted by eternally-dilapidatedYes tbh I rarely confused with what I want. Same sun and moon and same Venus and Mars 😄Posted by AerialViewThanks for referring! 😊Posted by eternally-dilapidated@Squishy_Marshmallow help this fellow out.Posted by AerialViewOh, really? That's so interesting. Could you elaborate?
You have a unique chart (:
And a Grand Cross pattern. Never seen that here.
And btw your placements! So many of the same zodiacs. 😃
I remember when I showed you Seleukos chart and turned out you get along well with him hehe.
My chart is quite common! Mostly two and three pairings (:
Oh is it? Usually people have a random collection, I feel, not as many repeats. Must be relaxing to have some consistency like that.click to expand
Mine is bowl chart. I don't have oppositions.
Btw scattered chart like yours is rare compare to Stellium.
Posted by AerialViewThat's so cool! I would love to not be confused and pulled in all kinds of directions hahaPosted by eternally-dilapidatedYes tbh I rarely confused with what I want. Same sun and moon and same Venus and Mars 😄Posted by AerialViewThanks for referring! 😊Posted by eternally-dilapidated@Squishy_Marshmallow help this fellow out.Posted by AerialViewOh, really? That's so interesting. Could you elaborate?
You have a unique chart (:
And a Grand Cross pattern. Never seen that here.
And btw your placements! So many of the same zodiacs. 😃
I remember when I showed you Seleukos chart and turned out you get along well with him hehe.
My chart is quite common! Mostly two and three pairings (:
Oh is it? Usually people have a random collection, I feel, not as many repeats. Must be relaxing to have some consistency like that.
Mine is bowl chart. I don't have oppositions.
Btw scattered chart like yours is rare compare to Stellium.click to expand
Ooh no oppositions? Thats so interesting. But you do have squares yes?
In what way is it rare? This is news to me lol
Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargeThanks for the ref. Hopefully she sees it 🙂
You should talk to @hollyhock
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Here my chart:
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-birth-chart-horoscope-online/?send_calculation=1&narozeni_den=17&narozeni_mesic=2&narozeni_rok=1993&narozeni_hodina=17&narozeni_minuta=30&narozeni_city=Peshawar% 2C+Pakistan&narozeni_mesto_hidden=Peshawar&narozeni_stat_hidden=PK&narozeni_podstat_kratky_hidden=Khyber+Pakhtunkhwa&narozeni_podstat_hidden=Khyber+Pakhtunkhwa&narozeni_podstat2_kratky_hidden=Peshawar&narozeni_podstat3_kratky_hidden=Peshawar&narozeni_input_hidden=Peshawar% 2C+Pakistan&narozeni_sirka_stupne=34&narozeni_sirka_minuty=1&narozeni_sirka_smer=0&narozeni_delka_stupne=71&narozeni_delka_minuty=31&narozeni_delka_smer=0&narozeni_timezone_form=auto&narozeni_timezone_dst_form=auto&house_system=equal&hid_chiron=1&hid_chiron_check=on&hid_lilith=1&hid_lilith_check=on&hid_uzel=1&hid_uzel_check=on&tolerance=1&hid_chiron_asp=on&hid_lilith_asp=on&hid_uzel_asp=on&hid_asc_asp=on&tolerance_paral=1.2&zmena_nastaveni=1&aktivni_tab=2&redraw_button=Redraw#tabs_redraw