Once you hit the Saturn return, you reach maturity, but there are other milestones...

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Adolescence...Jupiter....(age11 appr)

Childhood...Sun, Mars and Venus...(1 year and over)

And babyhood...lol Moon. Before the first sun return, only the moon revolves, month after month.

Before that, you have the rising, returning every day. So the rising must be your immediate contact with life, your immediate reality....then the moon....your most vulnerable time...the months after you're born. Then your shining, joyful, active personality, sun and friends....then more complexity, you get an idea of money, and knowledge, adolescence....then it's Saturn, the seriousness, when you learn that death is coming...

Maybe theres a new age around 84 because you have your Uranus return. If more people lived to that age and older, we might have more rebellion, which is why they poison our food and promote sexual activity to kill us before our time....
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Posted by LostPisces
And how is maturity measured?

I sum maturity to human relationships, is the other people who level you maturity, your growth happens in this "stupid/basic" society.
Not sure what you mean. Maturity in this case is FELT, a Saturn return is usually a harsh time where we feel youth is over, and the clock is now ticking...and responsabilities abound.
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Posted by Rindaroo
So much talk about Saturn return.. so do I have this right - there are 3 of them in a lifetime? if you live that long..

I just looked mine up & the first one was at a rough time. About a year or so after my first divorce. I was just numb in that period surviving. I had opportunities to deal with some things & go down a different path but I just didn't. All these things blew up in my face 20+ years later in a midlife crisis. I guess it's better to deal with things during your Saturn return. You will be faced with it eventually.. a sort of maturity I suppose.

The next one is in 6 years ? And the last when I'm 89 lol I'd think at 89 if you're alive you doing good just knowing who you are ?


Is your Saturn around the 7th house?

My mum didnt feel the second S R, l think, but she had a hard time 3 years later when it hit most of her planets, like a stellium.

What kind of things blew up in your face? Like choosing not to study?
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And how is maturity measured?

I sum maturity to human relationships, is the other people who level you maturity, your growth happens in this "stupid/basic" society.
Not sure what you mean. Maturity in this case is FELT, a Saturn return is usually a harsh time where we feel youth is over, and the clock is now ticking...and responsabilities abound.
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I don´t feel that strong, I don´t expect nothing, what comes comes. maybe is my Saturn slow pace in R.

My thoughts are more or less venting about one current discussion, where the other person evaluates my maturity saying that I was fine, now I bad again, or that I never changed, and if I don´t change I don´t care about me, because is a problem for the another person. but for me is not a maturity problem or a problem at all, and all started about one triviality in my opinion that for the other person is means a lot.

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I'm turning 27 in two weeks what should I expect.
Its age 29, but look up your exact SR date....

http://www.findyourfate.com/astrology/ephemeris/2019.html
Hm not sure how to read the info from that site
Really? 6th planet, abbreviation SAT.
Im on my phone ? can't see all that
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2019 starts off woth Saturn at 11 cap, it reaches 20 in may, goes back down to 15 in septembre, and up to 20 again late december.
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I'm turning 27 in two weeks what should I expect.
Its age 29, but look up your exact SR date....

http://www.findyourfate.com/astrology/ephemeris/2019.html
Hm not sure how to read the info from that site
Really? 6th planet, abbreviation SAT.
Im on my phone ? can't see all that
2019 starts off woth Saturn at 11 cap, it reaches 20 in may, goes back down to 15 in septembre, and up to 20 again late december.
So if Saturn is at 20 degrees in May what does that mean? Thank you for takin the time to explain this to me
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Tell me the degree and sign of your natal Saturn !
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So much talk about Saturn return.. so do I have this right - there are 3 of them in a lifetime? if you live that long..

I just looked mine up & the first one was at a rough time. About a year or so after my first divorce. I was just numb in that period surviving. I had opportunities to deal with some things & go down a different path but I just didn't. All these things blew up in my face 20+ years later in a midlife crisis. I guess it's better to deal with things during your Saturn return. You will be faced with it eventually.. a sort of maturity I suppose.

The next one is in 6 years ? And the last when I'm 89 lol I'd think at 89 if you're alive you doing good just knowing who you are ?


Is your Saturn around the 7th house?

My mum didnt feel the second S R, l think, but she had a hard time 3 years later when it hit most of her planets, like a stellium.

What kind of things blew up in your face? Like choosing not to study?
Saturn is in the second house. Emotional well-being. I had some personal demons to face, but the pain was too great. So I basically shut down my emotions & ended up with someone whose emotions were also shut down ( ended up being husband #2). There was a guy who was emotional support around that time, crazy about me & I refused to date. I think I was scared. He was dramatic, heart on his sleeve type. We had quite a connection though. So anyway mid-40's I started dealing with the personal demons, and who shows up in my life about 2 years after divorce#2? And he freaking tells me I went down the wrong path. It should've been with him & I would've had a much better life. It is true. Financially & emotionally too. definitely a turning point in life. I always take the hard road ? He & I are still in touch. Sometimes I wonder if he's my guardian angel lol



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2nd is about financial security and security in general.
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I like your threads but I guess its more complex than that.

Of course, transits are important but every person will few them in a different way.

Maybe someone mature before the Saturn's return or after that.
You didnt even read the whole question, it's not even about Saturn! You dumbass ?
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Of course I did, I was using Saturn as an example because it's the most relevant transit.
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I'm turning 27 in two weeks what should I expect.
Its age 29, but look up your exact SR date....

http://www.findyourfate.com/astrology/ephemeris/2019.html
Hm not sure how to read the info from that site
Really? 6th planet, abbreviation SAT.
Im on my phone ? can't see all that
2019 starts off woth Saturn at 11 cap, it reaches 20 in may, goes back down to 15 in septembre, and up to 20 again late december.
So if Saturn is at 20 degrees in May what does that mean? Thank you for takin the time to explain this to me
Tell me the degree and sign of your natal Saturn !
Saturn in Capricorn 25'20
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And you can't figure it out?
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I like your threads but I guess its more complex than that.

Of course, transits are important but every person will few them in a different way.

Maybe someone mature before the Saturn's return or after that.
You didnt even read the whole question, it's not even about Saturn! You dumbass ?
Of course I did, I was using Saturn as an example because it's the most relevant transit.
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Had you ever thought about that? Like how each planet, after it revolves a first time, it is now integrated?
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I'm turning 27 in two weeks what should I expect.
Its age 29, but look up your exact SR date....

http://www.findyourfate.com/astrology/ephemeris/2019.html
Hm not sure how to read the info from that site
Really? 6th planet, abbreviation SAT.
Im on my phone ? can't see all that
2019 starts off woth Saturn at 11 cap, it reaches 20 in may, goes back down to 15 in septembre, and up to 20 again late december.
So if Saturn is at 20 degrees in May what does that mean? Thank you for takin the time to explain this to me
Tell me the degree and sign of your natal Saturn !
Saturn in Capricorn 25'20
And you can't figure it out?
I'm on my phone 😐
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If Saturn travels within 11 and 20 degrees in 2019, and your Saturn is at 25 degrees, you can't figure it out—? Seriously—?
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I'm turning 27 in two weeks what should I expect.
Its age 29, but look up your exact SR date....

http://www.findyourfate.com/astrology/ephemeris/2019.html
Hm not sure how to read the info from that site
Really? 6th planet, abbreviation SAT.
Im on my phone ? can't see all that
2019 starts off woth Saturn at 11 cap, it reaches 20 in may, goes back down to 15 in septembre, and up to 20 again late december.
So if Saturn is at 20 degrees in May what does that mean? Thank you for takin the time to explain this to me
Tell me the degree and sign of your natal Saturn !
Saturn in Capricorn 25'20
And you can't figure it out?
I'm on my phone 😐
If Saturn travels within 11 and 20 degrees in 2019, and your Saturn is at 25 degrees, you can't figure it out—? Seriously—?
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It means you'll have your Saturn return in 2020.... Obviously.