what is the strongest sign/placement?

what would you consider a very strong character?

person /individual?



give some examples, such as LEADERS and some people you know in real life,

they don't have t be leaders. But those you fear. kind of RESPECT.

and what placements contribute to this.

for me, I think one of the people I think are very cool, respectable, in his later years, is David Bowie.





i don't really have any thoughts on great leaders, but i like the philosophy of Abraham Lincoln, because he freed the slaves,

and i like George Washington because he is the first leader of the U.S.,

and that of Benjamin Franklin. (these are older leaders) I don't really have a thought over the modern leaders.

I like Barack Obama, i think he's one of the greatest and he'll be going down in history as one of the best.

Posted by bumboklatt
Leo's are great leaders

Also some Taurus folk, some Scorpios

Worst leaders I've seen are probably Capricorn and Virgo, they are great at their jobs but they don't handle stress very well.

i agree with you tha Capricorn and Virgo can be really good as Supportive roles.

but then look at Mao, Capricorn ....the leader of Chinese Republic?



Virgo has great intentions, but something happens... lol

Posted by shakedown
I consider a "strong" person one that CONSTANTLY gets knocked on his or her ass by life. However, he or she never gives up. The person continues to dust him or herself off and carries on.



VIRGO

Former President of Philiphines, Ferdinand Marcos was a VIrgo sun, i think firebunny and Ands could attest this and maybe they know the history of his ruling from the schools there..



that sounds a lot like Capricorn though, but virgo has some similarities.

Posted by P6X58DE
I would say Capricorn in work, if they get out of their self motivating anger streak and direct it outwards.. fuck me you better move your ass or you getting roasted.

Aquarius in humanitarian areas...

Cancer with family...



I still don't really know what this means lol.

July 16th Sabian Symbol

The Sabian Symbol for your birthday is a leader of men wrapped in an invisible mantle of power. You have a profound amount of inner strength, which gives you the fortitude to reach levels of self-discovery that others cannot obtain. Take strides to embrace your intuition, much of your strength lies at the unconscious level.

Capricorn is good because they don't let their emotions RULE them...

so they will just keep going. and going....

it wont stop them from getting to the top.

i think having too much emotions can destroy you, personally in the realm of leadership.

but the irony is, you need emotions to be compassionate to people and have deeper understanding.

so it's a fine balance.

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Posted by bumboklatt
Leo's are great leaders

Also some Taurus folk, some Scorpios

Worst leaders I've seen are probably Capricorn and Virgo, they are great at their jobs but they don't handle stress very well.

i agree with you tha Capricorn and Virgo can be really good as Supportive roles.

but then look at Mao, Capricorn ....the leader of Chinese Republic?



Virgo has great intentions, but something happens... lol

Yep but Mao had complete authority with a huge workforce, in a system that reveres hard work , he was more of a supervisor than a leader.

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but in that system, isn't that the only way to rule? like a kind of management?

did they have other monuments for other U.S. Presidents??

i know they have the Washington Monument,

they regard this the finest...

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Leo's are great leaders

Also some Taurus folk, some Scorpios

Worst leaders I've seen are probably Capricorn and Virgo, they are great at their jobs but they don't handle stress very well.

i agree with you tha Capricorn and Virgo can be really good as Supportive roles.

but then look at Mao, Capricorn ....the leader of Chinese Republic?



Virgo has great intentions, but something happens... lol

Yep but Mao had complete authority with a huge workforce, in a system that reveres hard work , he was more of a supervisor than a leader.

but in that system, isn't that the only way to rule? like a kind of management?

Yeah I'm no expert but most posts like president, prime minister, king queen etc are all set up within a system and the people subject themselves to it

To me a leader is someone who is changing things and doesn't necessarily need a large following, someone who starts and carries a revolution

For example fidel Castro and Che Guevara were leaders. Castro ceased being a leader when his people took his system and ran with it

A leader is only as strong as his followers

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well you have sense into you after all. lol

that was very good and on point. and i agree.

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Aries sun, Libra moon





Capricorn sun, Libra moon



Pisces sun, Sagittarius moon



Aquarius sun, Capricorn moon

how did you get her birthday? the French young woman in the 2nd photo?

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Aries sun, Libra moon





Capricorn sun, Libra moon



Pisces sun, Sagittarius moon



Aquarius sun, Capricorn moon

how did you get her birthday? the French young woman in the 2nd photo?

Joan of Arc. 🙂 It's on Astrotheme. I have no idea how they got it. Perhaps her birthday is documented. They also have rising signs for all these people, but I didn't put them, because I am suspicious about those celebrity birth times.

There are other types of strength and leadership, but you note I picked all but one who did it peacefully, using their brains.

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yes, i see what you mean. lol

strategical peacemakers.



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how Joan of Arc died, and Lincoln was not good though. but that's how it is with world leaders.

John F. Kennedy in his middle age, shot riding in the car his wife next to him.

Posted by P6X58DE
Julius Caesar, a Cancer general.

it must have been an exciting time to be in that era. lol

strategical war battles.

conquer and destroy.



but Julius Ceasar, he got backstabbed by his own.

ophiuchus. those newborn babies don't take no shit. they strong.

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http://www.getty.edu/art/collection/objects/105441/unknown-maker-julius-caesar-zodiacal-sign-of-cancer-german-probably-1170s/

he's cancer sun then?

i can see that... lol



he fell in love with a seductress, Cleopatra.



are you familiar with Ceasar? I didn't read much into it to be honest, although i do have a book that talks in depth about him. just wan'st interested. i was more interested in romance books. lol

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http://www.getty.edu/art/collection/objects/105441/unknown-maker-julius-caesar-zodiacal-sign-of-cancer-german-probably-1170s/

he's cancer sun then?

i can see that... lol



he fell in love with a seductress, Cleopatra.



are you familiar with Ceasar? I didn't read much into it to be honest, although i do have a book that talks in depth about him. just wan'st interested. i was more interested in romance books. lol

LOOL yes i know quite a bit about him i apparently have lineage from him.. don't read into it though possibly very inaccurate haha.

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oh really? you have a direct lineage to Ceasar? 😛



careful!! people are gonna think you are delusional, the way some thought Johnny Depp was delusional because he's from lineage of Queen Elizabeth. lmao

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Posted by lisabethur8
for me, I think one of the people I think are very cool, respectable, in his later years, is David Bowie.

i don't really have any thoughts on great leaders, but i like the philosophy of Abraham Lincoln, because he freed the slaves,

and i like George Washington because he is the first leader of the U.S.,

and that of Benjamin Franklin. (these are older leaders) I don't really have a thought over the modern leaders.

I like Barack Obama, i think he's one of the greatest and he'll be going down in history as one of the best.

He's almost a force of nature here (Obama.)

Leo Sun and Merc, with that Air Moon.

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i think you have to have detached emotions, but yet still be CARING and understanding to be a leader.

you can't drown into emotions too much or it'll kill you.



and him having that Gemini moon helped him so he stays UPLIFTED through the dark times, to be strong and be there/supportive for the people.

if he drowns and gets depressed a lot he won't be much of a leader and people depend on leaders who will pull them through.

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http://www.getty.edu/art/collection/objects/105441/unknown-maker-julius-caesar-zodiacal-sign-of-cancer-german-probably-1170s/

he's cancer sun then?

i can see that... lol



he fell in love with a seductress, Cleopatra.



are you familiar with Ceasar? I didn't read much into it to be honest, although i do have a book that talks in depth about him. just wan'st interested. i was more interested in romance books. lol

LOOL yes i know quite a bit about him i apparently have lineage from him.. don't read into it though possibly very inaccurate haha.

oh really? you have a direct lineage to Ceasar? 😛



careful!! people are gonna think you are delusional, the way some thought Johnny Depp was delusional because he's from lineage of Queen Elizabeth. lmao

My first foster carer a Virgo did some research about me because i peaked his interest and well that's what he came up with this is why i would not call it accurate.

He wanted to take me to Bulgaria with him... saw something with me that others did not, but i could not go due to social services.

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but what about those who are living in the U.S. and many of them say they are a direct line to Cherokee, or Apache or some distant American Indian relation? would people say they are delusional too?

we are all mixed from some blood line. If we're from a lineage that was this and that and it's true, why is it delusional?

Aquarius - Cold, fearless, wise and rebellious...As a Sun in the 11th house (aries) I really admire them, they fight the old, bring the new and the most important, they respect everyone.

Aries once they master their fears, their sign is the god of war, Scorpio once they master their motions and develop the higher mind (eagle archetype), Gemini once they master their duality, Libra's strength is of peace, righteousness, justice, being fair. Very valuable virtues. Leo is the heart, they do everything with the heart and that makes them very strong. Capricorn once they have a purpose take Mark Antony from Julius Caesar for example. Aquarius once they realise their love for humanity and start acting towards it. Fighting for causes, for the oppressed, for humanity.

Posted by Capricorn91
Aries once they master their fears, their sign is the god of war, Scorpio once they master their motions and develop the higher mind (eagle archetype), Gemini once they master their duality, Libra's strength is of peace, righteousness, justice, being fair. Very valuable virtues. Leo is the heart, they do everything with the heart and that makes them very strong. Capricorn once they have a purpose take Mark Antony from Julius Caesar for example. Aquarius once they realise their love for humanity and start acting towards it. Fighting for causes, for the oppressed, for humanity.

i'm not into love of humanity though i guess i'm cowardly.

cause i just want to be homebody with my man and be away from people. but i like group settings like this.

Posted by raad182
Aquarius - Cold, fearless, wise and rebellious...As a Sun in the 11th house (aries) I really admire them, they fight the old, bring the new and the most important, they respect everyone.

uh nooooo...

if i don't like some people, i don't like them, cause they are abusive and cruel.

why should i like those folks? i have discernment too just like anyone else.

I think it depends on what kind of leader a person is. For example, I think for say, a high government official or say an athlete leader, I'd vote Leo. I think Virgo's are great leaders in regards to pointing out flaws with system based set ups, whether its government, analytics, etc. Gemini's are great coaches I think, along with being great investors, since they're always looking for mental stimulation. Capricorn's can be great managers as well in the work force generally. Taurus, Scorpio, and Capricorn can be great musical leaders.

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Aries once they master their fears, their sign is the god of war, Scorpio once they master their motions and develop the higher mind (eagle archetype), Gemini once they master their duality, Libra's strength is of peace, righteousness, justice, being fair. Very valuable virtues. Leo is the heart, they do everything with the heart and that makes them very strong. Capricorn once they have a purpose take Mark Antony from Julius Caesar for example. Aquarius once they realise their love for humanity and start acting towards it. Fighting for causes, for the oppressed, for humanity.

i'm not into love of humanity though i guess i'm cowardly.

cause i just want to be homebody with my man and be away from people. but i like group settings like this.

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Well everything that astrology says is not true. And it might not be for you or may be not yet, but if you have seen Dark Knight, Christian Bale an Aquarius, showed us batman from his perspective, a real and grounded personality who wasn't the humanitarian initially, rather was more of a coward and cared about only himself and his revenge. But still he ended up saving Gotham and its people even sacrificing himself. I think that was a true representation of Aquarius.

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Posted by raad182
Aquarius - Cold, fearless, wise and rebellious...As a Sun in the 11th house (aries) I really admire them, they fight the old, bring the new and the most important, they respect everyone.

uh nooooo...

if i don't like some people, i don't like them, cause they are abusive and cruel.

why should i like those folks? i have discernment too just like anyone else.

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Of course, its a common sense.

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Aries once they master their fears, their sign is the god of war, Scorpio once they master their motions and develop the higher mind (eagle archetype), Gemini once they master their duality, Libra's strength is of peace, righteousness, justice, being fair. Very valuable virtues. Leo is the heart, they do everything with the heart and that makes them very strong. Capricorn once they have a purpose take Mark Antony from Julius Caesar for example. Aquarius once they realise their love for humanity and start acting towards it. Fighting for causes, for the oppressed, for humanity.

i'm not into love of humanity though i guess i'm cowardly.

cause i just want to be homebody with my man and be away from people. but i like group settings like this.

Well everything that astrology says is not true. And it might not be for you or may be not yet, but if you have seen Dark Knight, Christian Bale an Aquarius, showed us batman from his perspective, a real and grounded personality who wasn't the humanitarian initially, rather was more of a coward and cared about only himself and his revenge. But still he ended up saving Gotham and its people even sacrificing himself. I think that was a true representation of Aquarius.

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but batman could be ANY sign. lol



he sounded like he did it out of DUTY and responsibility. and yeah, he wouldn't harm an innocent. he seems to love to protect them.

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Posted by bumboklatt
Leo's are great leaders

Also some Taurus folk, some Scorpios

Worst leaders I've seen are probably Capricorn and Virgo, they are great at their jobs but they don't handle stress very well.

i agree with you tha Capricorn and Virgo can be really good as Supportive roles.

but then look at Mao, Capricorn ....the leader of Chinese Republic?



Virgo has great intentions, but something happens... lol

Caps and Virgos usually turn into dictators (something I've noticed in Asian leaders).. they have good intentions behind the need for absolute control though...

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and Taurus too? (ie, hitler, and Saddam Hussien)

because it seems like an earth thing lol 😛

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Aries once they master their fears, their sign is the god of war, Scorpio once they master their motions and develop the higher mind (eagle archetype), Gemini once they master their duality, Libra's strength is of peace, righteousness, justice, being fair. Very valuable virtues. Leo is the heart, they do everything with the heart and that makes them very strong. Capricorn once they have a purpose take Mark Antony from Julius Caesar for example. Aquarius once they realise their love for humanity and start acting towards it. Fighting for causes, for the oppressed, for humanity.

i'm not into love of humanity though i guess i'm cowardly.

cause i just want to be homebody with my man and be away from people. but i like group settings like this.

Well everything that astrology says is not true. And it might not be for you or may be not yet, but if you have seen Dark Knight, Christian Bale an Aquarius, showed us batman from his perspective, a real and grounded personality who wasn't the humanitarian initially, rather was more of a coward and cared about only himself and his revenge. But still he ended up saving Gotham and its people even sacrificing himself. I think that was a true representation of Aquarius.

but batman could be ANY sign. lol



he sounded like he did it out of DUTY and responsibility. and yeah, he wouldn't harm an innocent. he seems to love to protect them.

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Well that is the beauty of it. And to your point saying that thing in itself is a unique thing. Nobody has ever said that before.

Refusing to go with someone else's beliefs and following his own conscience (I would say that as Saturn but Aquarius is the true representation of Saturn ) . That is what am saying until they realize. And Saturn is all about being responsible.