LEO LADY NEEDS TO VENT ABOUT CANCER MAN

Sorry to hear it didn't work out , its better this way because if he wasn't making it a priority its not worth it. I had this entire post written before hand explaining a bunch of stuff about cancer men, and I lost it via internal server error I'm kind pissed about because it would have been insightful and I don't feel like trying to piece back together in my head. So I'll just say like this there plenty more great cancer dudes out there just acquaint yourself with a bit of there past you can always get a decent bead on a cancer by their willingness to talk about their past. Have you ever really asked about his past including his childhood because the environment a cancer grows up can dictate what kind of person they are i.e well adjusted or not. The same can be said for any other sign in astrology, but I personally feel that it has deepest impact on water signs.

that was the crux of it.

Oh yea don't feel alone I had the same situation happen to me with a Leo girl that I absolutely cherished. My gut was telling me that something was off about her, she had other interest and maybe I was just too genuine for her to believe, she had been through a slew of back to back terrible relationships while I had been on dating hiatus for quite some time. when I wanted to take it to the next level and give the comfort, love and adoration that the woman I'm with deserves,it's because I want to make the woman Im with feel as special and as lucky as I do feel to be with them. Alas It was a no to be we had two wonderful dates and when I asked about doing a third romantic dinner. One that I would prepare cause I'm a pretty decent cook and she had asked about me making her dinner sometime. I figure it would be an awesomely romantic night but when it came time to ask she declined and then went cold on me. I haven't heard from her in three weeks and I don't intend to I don't think she was ready for that at all. I know that Leos go through lengthy mate selection process and they cling hard to relationships that they still feel are valuable and I got the feeling she wasn't done with one yet any way.

I hope that this offers some solace and insight for you, cause I was that same position about 2 weeks ago and its not fun at all, its like having someone slowly coil barbed wire around you heart only to give a swift stoic snatch tearing it asunder and leaving you a bit distraught.
But I say hey their loss I still think that Cancer/Leo match could work if they are both gen

*Genuine people who can communicate freely .

Hey Pnokio,

Loved reading ur post.. I have to say that ur quite the romantic.. Im sure she would have really enjoyed the evening since she had mentionned before that she wanted u to cook her dinner.. Being a Leo we love the romantic gestures from a man it makes us feel special.. However I have to say that if she did have a slew of bad relationships and perhaps recently ended one (not sure when her last relationship ended.. Chances are she wasnt ready.. Myself when in a relationship I devote my all so when we get screwed by that person whom we cherished.. OUFFFF step aside my friend its not gonna be easy getting in cause we tend to cling not on the man himself but more like not wanting to make the same mistake again.. Thats our pride kicking in.. Sort of saying " WHAT.. he did that to me.. does he know who i am. lol AGAIN.. ITS ONLY PRIDE lol.. Give her time.. Chances are if she did like you she'll contact you once she overcomes her feelings of abandonment..But what u do if and when she contacts u.. Well strictly up to you. As you said she probably wasnt ready cause u sound very sweet and thats a big plus for a leo 😉

I too was in her posistion with the above cancer man.. I gave him the cold shoulder at first.. But he bluntly told me that I have to be sweeter and appreciate him.. I was like " Ok this dude is kiding me right" Again pride.. who is he to tell me what to do lol.. But I didnt say that.. I thought about what he said.. I agreed with him and told him why.. because I just ended a relationship.. I then began liking him and did open up a little more.. a medium more.. and alot more hahaha .. We had a very nice 4 months together.. until this story.. Its sad actually because im now back to square one.. My pride shatered again so goin back into my " leo shell" and doing me.. Not sure what to do if he does text again.. However I do plan to text him for his bday cause i think bdays are special and should be acknowledged 🙂 Oh and indeed cancer/leo could be a very good match..but the key is lots of communication im noticing

Jess
I'm happy to hear your take on my Leo situation , I have been wanting get a female Leo's view on the situation so thankyou very much , I can let my mind rest from wandering about. It all makes since I hadn't really been too sure what to make of it all . You're right about me being a romantic fool being a cancer I'm hardwiredfor it🙂. But I'm a bit stayed because Ive had my share of heartache from the ladies but with her Leo .sun being so constant it really to brought some balance to my mood ass moon . She awakend that romantic side again and I wanted to give all I could to making this a positive and enjoyable relationship . Being a cancer its ridiculous how many times my mood.will just tear off for whatever reason (moon ) she was my first Leo and what I felt with her , vs a picese , cancer, aries, and a Virgo, . She had a sparked an Inferno within me that had long since been like that of a candle barely aflame. I was inspired by her the self respect and poise for those attributes were incarnate. A woman worthy of my unbridled affection. Ah there I go again love goggles get'em off get'em off lol. But yea now that I've had my water boiled by a Leos flame I can say its a match I'll keep in mind from now on. If.she ever does call ill hear her out instead of just writing her off. So thank-you for view on l this.

So sorry I really didnt mean to spam the thread , I kept getting an error so I just kept.posting my bad thats why I should quit tryin to post things via smartphone 😢.

Pnokio,

It was my pleasure glad it helped a little.. Im happy to hear that u wont write her off just yet if she calls.. That ur willing to listen.. 🙂 However do make ur point across that you wanted to go onto the next level so she has to make sure she's ready.. Cause Ive noticed.. for me, if I have barely any feelings for the man and didnt quite get over my past break up chances are ill play with his emotions.. I KNOW Its bad to say this up front.. But its reality.. Im guilty of acting that way in the past..But not anymore.. ive learned that retaliating on another person is not healthy.. I learned to deal with things on my own before letting someone in unless its mutual friendship or F**K Friends.. So if she does come back and continues acts the same way after uve let her know ur intentions.. Leave her go gently.. She's fooling herself thinking that shes ready..

Could I ask u a question being a cancer man.. Besides texting him for his bday.. I wasnt really gonna keep in contact with him.. but my gut feeling tell me something in what he said is genuine.. Or maybe im trying to fool myself in beleiving it.. Have u been in that situation where u want to be with a woman however wasnt ready to provide for her the way she wanted?

Hey Wineaux

Im actually not looking for answers but more like trying to understand a cancer mans behavior.. Its my first cancer so not aware of their ways and trying to figure it out..What i choose to do is actually my decision in the end.. But thx for that link cause i didnt read it and it seems to have the info im looking for.. And side quote.. I wasnt interested when we first met because of a recent break up i had.. he's the one that made be realise and think that i shud try to let him in .. which I slowly did and then he turned the table on me saying that he's not ready and all over the place right now..

As for posting three times.. Not done on purpose.. The first time i posted was on someones elses forum so figured to start my own which I did and found that my post was wayyyyy too long to read and figured no one really has that much patience to read other peoples business .. So i didnt know how to delete it or make it shorter so i created another one... Hey im new at this site so all is confusing abit..

Wineaux..

Wow .. Where was that link 5 days ago lol.. Thx again 😉 Not too familiar with the chart thing but ill take a look..

Wineaux.. If you dont mind me asking.. What planets are the most important to compare.. Basically what should I be looking at.. Moon sun jupiter uranus.. Feels like im in geography class 😉 It seems to be sun and moon appearing often..
Im a full blown leos i must say cause i have 4.. Not sure id thats a good thing hahaha.. Me sun: leo and moon: scorp and him sun: cancer and moon capricorn.. Please speak english.. hahah Ill read more about this chart thing lol

ME HIM

Sun: Leo Cancer
Moon: Scorp Cap
Neptune: Sag Sag
Uranus: Scorp Scorp
Pluto: Libra Libra
Saturn: Virgo Virgo
Jupiter: Leo Leo
Mercury: Leo Leo
Venus: Leo Cancer
Mars: Gemini Gemni

Hmmm why do are charts look very similar.. Might have made a mistake hahaha.. Well i didnt have his time of birth so not sure if it matters..

Jess I've had an experience similar to that . It can happen if I feel that I can't provide you with what you need , then I will let'em go because I would rather build some one up then tear them down. He may feel he was a detriment to you. If you are feeling neglected ,odds are then he feels it and its maybe a little magnified too. So if he's legitimate keep the door open , txting.for his bday is a good gesture letting him know youre still around , but keep it casual . Cancer guys always like to think about the one that got away heck its sorta why I started.coming to place :p.

Wineaux..

Thx again for all the links and info.. you've help me alot to understand..
I just went on cafe astrology and in gave me more perspective on our match..
What I think? I do see that we could make a good match.. so it seems.. However also read that we have very different ways of showing our emotions.. And if we cant overcome that.. Then FORGET ITTTT.. Basically im a typical leo in terms of showing affection.. hmmm an in ur face type if we could say lol.. But not in a over baring way... However i need to feel and hear that my partner needs for me.. in order for me to reciprocate the the affection... so when i dont get it.. i dont feel wanted and basically back off .. In his case.. its kind of the same in terms of displaying his affection he will only do so if his partner shows that he is needed, appreciated .. So since im not showing cause he's not.. i could see why hes unsure about me cause heck im being unsure about him.. NO COMMUNICATION LOL

So what we have here between he and I: Im not showing affection cause he doesnt however since im more expressive in showing affection i expect him to do the same which he may have similar feelings however showing them in a way that im not familiar to.. Hence.. I need to tame down my leo pride and basically read in betweeen the lines lol ... Look at his action versus waiting for him to tell me straight up that he likes me.. Cause besides that obstacle in our combo we seem to have similar needs... looking at other planets in our chart..
Now... am i right about the above.. Ill have to see.. My roar will need to slowly turn into a sweet little purrrrr 😉

Posted by Jessica777
Wineaux..

Thx again for all the links and info.. you've help me alot to understand..
I just went on cafe astrology and in gave me more perspective on our match..
What I think? I do see that we could make a good match.. so it seems.. However also read that we have very different ways of showing our emotions.. And if we cant overcome that.. Then FORGET ITTTT.. Basically im a typical leo in terms of showing affection.. hmmm an in ur face type if we could say lol.. But not in a over baring way... However i need to feel and hear that my partner needs for me.. in order for me to reciprocate the the affection... so when i dont get it.. i dont feel wanted and basically back off .. In his case.. its kind of the same in terms of displaying his affection he will only do so if his partner shows that he is needed, appreciated .. So since im not showing cause he's not.. i could see why hes unsure about me cause heck im being unsure about him.. NO COMMUNICATION LOL

So what we have here between he and I: Im not showing affection cause he doesnt however since im more expressive in showing affection i expect him to do the same which he may have similar feelings however showing them in a way that im not familiar to.. Hence.. I need to tame down my leo pride and basically read in betweeen the lines lol ... Look at his action versus waiting for him to tell me straight up that he likes me.. Cause besides that obstacle in our combo we seem to have similar needs... looking at other planets in our chart..
Now... am i right about the above.. Ill have to see.. My roar will need to slowly turn into a sweet little purrrrr 😉

Wow, this is exactly what happened to me any my cancer. I backed off because I was unsure, then he backed off. I like we're having this great stand off on who's going to let down their walls first. I'm too scared and I know he is. When I'm sure of how my lover feels about me, I'm very affectionate, open about how I feel. However, if their guards are up, mine are up even higher. He test the waters often, sending messages or calling to see about me. I know that's his way of staying relevant in my world. He has already asked in his crab way if I'm seeing someone new, etc. Or if I go weeks without calling/texting he fusses or expresses his displeasure with sarcastic remarks. Now I know that's his way of showing his heart without exposing how he truly

feels because he's unsure about me. Looking back over several conversations we had, he would say "there's a lot I want to tell you Shirl, but I'm afraid you'll use it against me." Now I know that his feelings were intense for me, but I put my walls up and when he was attempting to pick up where we left off, I did not allow him in again, so now he's very guarded. We haven't seen each other since April but we kept in contact via the phone or texting. Over the months our conversations have been very generic, almost void of emotion because of fear. Unlike in the beginning, we told each other daily how much we loved each other. 2 weeks ago he sent me a message full of emotion. It was as if he couldn't hold it anymore and had to release it. He said that he had been dreaming about me constantly and needed to see me desperately, that he missed me so much it hurt and that I needed to make time to see him. Funny thing is that the morning before I got the text, I had told myself that I needed to release that relationship entirely because it was too painful to stay in a LDR. I have no doubt we love each othe, but our situations don't allow us to be together like we want to, including the 2 hour ride. My cancer drives for a living and asking him to make a four hour commute round trip seems a bit much at times. My heart will not let him go....and he can't let me go either.

Wow, I'm so happy for you. When they hug you...omg....the best feeling in the world. When my cancer hugs me he moans in my ear. Drives me insane!!! My cancer is a former lover from 20 years ago. I met him when I was 17 and he was 24. We fell madly in love then, but I moved away to college and he married another lady. However, I never got over him. I've had my share of lovers, but Mr. Cancer stayed with me and I don't know why. Fast forward 20 years later. I look him up on fb, but he wasn't registered because he don't like modern technology. LOL I did locate his brother, so I messaged him. I received a message on his bday July, 17 from his brother giving me his number, saying that Mr. C wanted to talk to me. I called left a message and he called me right back. He said he could not believe it was me calling, that he had never gotten over me and I was the one that got away. We talked for months1-2 hours a day and texting all day. This was last year July, 2010. The romance began. I was caught up so was he....hot and heavy was an understatement. Mr. wanted to see me everyday all day. He was content with just sitting next to me staring. LOL Sometimes he would just say Wow!!! ROFL The last time he say me I was the typical skinny 17 year old and now I've completely transformed. I've have augmentation from a small a cup to a DD. I consider myself to be a beautiful woman and he thought so too. Every time he sees me he has to comment on how pretty I am, but that's when the insecurities began to creep in with him. He asked often why did I want him when I could probably have any man I want, If I was seeing other men, If I would live with him so he could be with me like he wanted to which was everyday. He made it known that he was so in love with me to the point his friends began to criticize him calling him my puppy dog. He wasn't a text'er before, but he became one with me. LOL He said his friends would tell him to put the damn phone down because he'd be holding it waiting for me to call. He would beg to see me all the time, but my life style , distance of other circumstances would not allow me too on top of the fact that I had fallen again and was trying to put distance in between our encounters fearing that we would get tired of one another. Of course he stated he would never get tired of me. Mr. Planned a romantic picnic for us in December 2010. It was so beautiful, but after that he began to pull away. Of course I panicked, began to text and

call, asking him if everything was okay. He assured me it was, that his feelings hadn't changed, but I could not understand why he was pulling away from me. As a Leo, when I'm in love, I want to see them all the time, plus I like attention. LOL The more I pushed, the more he pulled away then he got a little snarky. So of course I pulled back even further and put up the walls. We had a few disagreements, so I shut down emotionally towards him. No more I love you, etc. He mirrored my actions but I was mirroring his as well. Just a mess! I stopped calling completely but he began to call/text me everyday. His messages seemed a bit timid,like he was testing the waters to see if I was still upset because he got a small taste of my leo temper. He don't like to argue or be confronted so....I would respond to his messages but I was very cold. I gave one word responses. I was scared but I was so happy he was still calling me. Fast forward, we finally made time to see each other in April 2011. It was bitter sweet. We didn't discuss the issues or our feelings but they were there bubbling under the surface. We just sat in my truck talking, touching, kissing hugging....his eyes told me what I needed to know. He was very much in love with me still but was very guarded and so was I.He out of no where asked if I had a new boyfriend (insecurities). I told him no of course, but he thought I'd shut down on him because I'd replaced him. We spent 3 hours together that day and before we parted he asked if he could see me the next day or when could he see me again. I told him I would call him...I forgot to call the next day. A few days passed, I text him and that's when I get the sarcastic remarks. " O you're still alive." So Mr. thinks I've moved on and he erected more walls after that. We spoke a few times after that but he was sort of cold towards me, so I called/responded less until two weeks ago. I sent a message just saying hello and the flood gates flew open on his end. Begging to see me, saying he missed me, loved me, NEEDED to see me. Wow! I was pleasantly surprised because I was afraid he wouldn't respond.

It has taken a lot of patience on my end. Actually, he's taught me patience. I know without a doubt he loves me like crazy. He's told me "he's not going anywhere and he hasn't. I learned that it's okay to not talk to your him everyday and he loves me the same. When I call, he responds immediately and I do the same with him. Hell, after not talking to me for awhile, his emotions intensify, so I kind of like it that way. LOL He text me a week ago telling me that I've been in his dreams a lot lately and I have to make time to be with me. So we've made plans to get away for his bday and I'm so excited to see him. I've been shopping like crazy and even lost a few pounds. LOL

During this time apart, I feel that our relationship has gotten a chance to reset itself. The little drama that we had during the holidays has passed and honestly I don't even feel it needs to be addressed. I've been kind of holding him back so I can get myself together because I know if I say meet me, he would be there so fast and the romance would be fast and furious like before. I don't want to be the clingy, needy girl I was then because it was a huge turn off to him. It's just something about him I crave and long for and I have to be able to allow him down town to regroup and not trip out because my ego isn't being stroked for a few hours. Yes, I was bad. Also, we've only been intimate once and the fires are blazing right now for the both of us and I need to be able to go there but maintain. I love hard and when I'm intimate with a man, my heart is attached so I can't do casual sex.

The problem with Leo women from the Cancer man standpoint is that you come on way too strong and demand loyalty and admiration way too early.

We don't have a problem sleeping with you because the sex is usually really good and u have a natural likeable and charm to you, but we aren't going to put a ring on your finger by the end of the month. We play it safe and we gotta make sure you can emotionally handle our moodswings which are for a different reason than the ones Leos have.

Posted by HighTide
The problem with Leo women from the Cancer man standpoint is that you come on way too strong and demand loyalty and admiration way too early.

We don't have a problem sleeping with you because the sex is usually really good and u have a natural likeable and charm to you, but we aren't going to put a ring on your finger by the end of the month. We play it safe and we gotta make sure you can emotionally handle our moodswings which are for a different reason than the ones Leos have.

Some of your post is untrue in my situation. He was the one to ask for loyalty from me. He was the one asking me to be his girl. He was the one begging, pleading to see me too often. He was the one who was overflowing with emotions. He was the one who told me constantly how beautiful I was...I didm't need him to validate what I already knew. However, I did appreciate his compliments.

Yes, I'm aggressive, but with him I had to be because as you stated he was playing it safe. When I initially contacted him, he had a million questions. Why was I looking for him, Why did I choose him, because I was so pretty and could have any man I want, Why him, Why him, Why him—? This caught me by surprise because he'd seemed so secure and confident. He didn't trust my intentions. When I assured him, I just wanted to catch up with an old friend, things changed. He dropped his walls and pursued me hard and strong.

One thing I know for sure, he does not like my fiery temper. He's very macho and doesn't take well to a woman speaking up for herself and putting him in check. He's not too keen on dating career oriented females. She can have a job, but not be too career focused (insecurities).

Actually, he's being the aggressive one now. I spoke with him last week. I can't even just call and say hi because he begins to pressure me about seeing me, setting a date, etc. It overwhelms me sometime. I had to cut the conversation short or we would have been on the phone a long time. After I hung up, he starts to text me asking for pictures and sending me pictures. LOL He told me "I'm so ready to see you again, I want to see you so bad." Just wow! This lioness is a little skeered now....

Posted by Leo1970

Posted by HighTide
The problem with Leo women from the Cancer man standpoint is that you come on way too strong and demand loyalty and admiration way too early.

We don't have a problem sleeping with you because the sex is usually really good and u have a natural likeable and charm to you, but we aren't going to put a ring on your finger by the end of the month. We play it safe and we gotta make sure you can emotionally handle our moodswings which are for a different reason than the ones Leos have.

Some of your post is untrue in my situation. He was the one to ask for loyalty from me. He was the one asking me to be his girl. He was the one begging, pleading to see me too often. He was the one who was overflowing with emotions. He was the one who told me constantly how beautiful I was...I didm't need him to validate what I already knew. However, I did appreciate his compliments.

Yes, I'm aggressive, but with him I had to be because as you stated he was playing it safe. When I initially contacted him, he had a million questions. Why was I looking for him, Why did I choose him, because I was so pretty and could have any man I want, Why him, Why him, Why him—? This caught me by surprise because he'd seemed so secure and confident. He didn't trust my intentions. When I assured him, I just wanted to catch up with an old friend, things changed. He dropped his walls and pursued me hard and strong.

One thing I know for sure, he does not like my fiery temper. He's very macho and doesn't take well to a woman speaking up for herself and putting him in check. He's not too keen on dating career oriented females. She can have a job, but not be too career focused (insecurities).

Actually, he's being the aggressive one now. I spoke with him last week. I can't even just call and say hi because he begins to pressure me about seeing me, setting a date, etc. It overwhelms me sometime. I had to cut the conversation short or we would have been on the phone a long time. After I hung up, he starts to text me asking for pictures and sending me pictures. LOL He told me "I'm so ready to see you again, I want to see you so bad." Just wow! This lioness is a little skeered now....

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I would say initially, Cancer Men probably go overboard trying to win the heart of the Leo woman

We push for the loyalty early on and probably want to see you too much and it usually catches you off guard.
Leo women are usually not sold on a Cancer's first sales pitch, but they really good at giving us second and third chances later on and truly letting bygones be bygones. I think Leo Women eventually start to miss the special kind of admiration we give you because its nice having someone around who can reaffirm your beauty. You have high self esteem but you can really get down sometimes and we are good about getting you back on top again.

As for the career/job thing, We don't mind you having a good job,making money and being independent. We just don't like you overstepping us on some things and acting like aren't capable of taking charge. We will let you be the Lioness most of the time, but u gotta step back sometime and let us shine since we are men and like to be overly masculine sometimes.

The Leo temper can be pretty scary at first since we usually don't understand if it is in order to gain control of the situation or for emotional ones like with us. However,it is fun to see you get all mad and red cheeked just so we can kiss you on the cheek and calm you down. Yall can get mad really easy, but also forgive just as easy.

To me your Cancer guy is probably one of the more co-dependent, but he basically really digs you and just wants to make sure he is good enough for you.If he saw you were on a message board talking about him, he would be really flattered himself and take you into the bedroom immediately for some great sex 🙂 You just need to let him know that your a strong willed person and that if you steamroll on him by accident your sorry, but u will be loyal to him as long as he can handle its all about u sometimes.

Wow, that's so freaking true it's scary. Lol He finds my rants amusing, but called me a pretty brat. If i'm upset, he will not answer the phonr gor a few hours. After somr time has passed, he'll text me to check on me.

I feel he's holding back on me emotionally. He says he won't tell me certain things because i'll use it agsinst him. Wth! Now I'm afraid to just call and say hi because he pressures me to see him and I'm not really ready. Maybe I should just be honest. I'm afraid to see him too often because I feel things will go south like before. It was too intense which resulted in him pulling away and me getting pissed. I kicked his shell for answers which pissed him off, but he came back and hasn't left yet. He told me a long time ago that he wasn't going anywhere and so far he's kept his word.

Sorry for the errors. I'm typing on my vibrant.

He is afraid of you holding things against him because he doesn't want you to think less of him in anyway right now. He wants you to see him as a full person first and then slowly he will start letting out details one by one to make sure it isn't a deal breaker in your eyes. Sometime's Cancers have to ease Leo's into certain ideas and he is prepping you for how he might be at his worst to see if u will truly stick around. Leo's have a tendancy to overreact and we know that. I was afraid of telling my Leo woman lover a certain thing I liked in the bedroom and didn't want to get embarassed by her reaction if it was too perverted in her eyes. The best response to give to a Cancer man is "Oh really now", like your open to what he is saying and not judging it until he has had time to explain.You can say no to something, but don't embarass us by accident in the process.

I believe Cancer Men and Leo Women have a really complicated courting period, but they can be really good friends/lovers once they have tested each other enough in alot of different areas. I never get angry over a Leo breakup because I feel we both are vulnerable in different ways and don't want to hurt each others feelings when it comes down to it.

I dated a Leo woman 2 different times and we had different issues, but by the 3rd time we were relaxed around each other and didn't put on fronts to each other anymore. I even had a pet name like he does for you by that time and it was natural and loving.