Cap acting like Scorp??

Ok, I was definitely under the impression that caps are generally pretty patient, but my cap man loses his sh** all the time. When we are discussing issues with our relationship (a normal healthy discussion of what we wanna fix), he will completely lose it and say the worst things possible. Like, telling me that I'm easily replaceable, he could leave me so easily and never come back once he has made his decision, etc...

Then, suddenly after he walks away he comes running back to say, "sorry, I didn't mean it. You're amazing and I regret everything I said to you. There's nobody else like you. Please forgive me." And expects me to just jump right back into his arms and be happy.

Is this normal?? He is acting like a scorpio..I'm a scorpio, but somehow I'm always the calm one who patiently wants to talk. What is going on here?? Anybody else experience something like this? In the moment he doesn't care how much he hurts me with words, and that's what is breaking me recently.

Posted by scorpio24356
Ok, I was definitely under the impression that caps are generally pretty patient, but my cap man loses his sh** all the time. When we are discussing issues with our relationship (a normal healthy discussion of what we wanna fix), he will completely lose it and say the worst things possible. Like, telling me that I'm easily replaceable, he could leave me so easily and never come back once he has made his decision, etc...

Then, suddenly after he walks away he comes running back to say, "sorry, I didn't mean it. You're amazing and I regret everything I said to you. There's nobody else like you. Please forgive me." And expects me to just jump right back into his arms and be happy.

Is this normal?? He is acting like a scorpio..I'm a scorpio, but somehow I'm always the calm one who patiently wants to talk. What is going on here?? Anybody else experience something like this? In the moment he doesn't care how much he hurts me with words, and that's what is breaking me recently.

I'm interested to know where his Mars is

He sounds like my first who was an Aries with the cap moon. He ended up being very abusive and almost killed me a couple times. You really shouldn't put up with that kind of manipulation.

The reason he is acting this way is because it works.

Seems like all other tactics have failed and he's using what once worked on him back against you (KARMA). I haven't heard the whole story, but every action and decision a Capricorn/Scorpion make are pre-thought before field tested, then used and repeated to win. Mirroring one's actions and using one's beliefs have been proven to be effective in manipulation tactics, which both Caps and Scorps do to win. Rinse-Wash-Repeat.

You simply accept it because you once were in that position, have compassion and understanding for it.



Perhaps the real question at hand is how do you move on from this point...

Posted by SureShotCap
The reason he is acting this way is because it works.

Seems like all other tactics have failed and he's using what once worked on him back against you (KARMA). I haven't heard the whole story, but every action and decision a Capricorn/Scorpion make are pre-thought before field tested, then used and repeated to win. Mirroring one's actions and using one's beliefs have been proven to be effective in manipulation tactics, which both Caps and Scorps do to win. Rinse-Wash-Repeat.

You simply accept it because you once were in that position, have compassion and understanding for it.



Perhaps the real question at hand is how do you move on from this point...

See, that's kind of what I'm thinking. I'm reacting to what he does, exactly the way he wants me to. He likes my reaction and feels like he is winning a competition of some kind. However, he is doing things in a way that hurts.

I thought about just not reacting, or getting upset by what he says, because that might make him just stop this phase after he isn't getting anything out of it anymore. I just don't wanna stop reacting and let him think it's okay to say those things to me all the time. But maybe I should just relax. It's probably just a phase, right? Just trying to figure out a good way to move on from this place we're at.

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Posted by scorpio24356
Ok, I was definitely under the impression that caps are generally pretty patient, but my cap man loses his sh** all the time. When we are discussing issues with our relationship (a normal healthy discussion of what we wanna fix), he will completely lose it and say the worst things possible. Like, telling me that I'm easily replaceable, he could leave me so easily and never come back once he has made his decision, etc...

Then, suddenly after he walks away he comes running back to say, "sorry, I didn't mean it. You're amazing and I regret everything I said to you. There's nobody else like you. Please forgive me." And expects me to just jump right back into his arms and be happy.

Is this normal?? He is acting like a scorpio..I'm a scorpio, but somehow I'm always the calm one who patiently wants to talk. What is going on here?? Anybody else experience something like this? In the moment he doesn't care how much he hurts me with words, and that's what is breaking me recently.

I'm interested to know where his Mars is

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I wish I knew more about that stuff.

Posted by ladylibra21
He sounds like my first who was an Aries with the cap moon. He ended up being very abusive and almost killed me a couple times. You really shouldn't put up with that kind of manipulation.

I did see a red flag earlier this week. He got slightly physical, but just grabbing my arm super tight to not let me walk away. That kind of freaked me out, because my previous relationship was actually super abusive. I got thrown around, punched, choked, ... But that's the weird thing though because I know he is 100% different and not a physically violent person at all. So it made me feel like he is changing. I don't know why. We've been together like 8 months and he has never been like this.

The one thing that does bother me though is that I feel like recently he has become the king of hypocricy. But who knows, maybe I'm just an overly sensitive scorpio.

Posted by starwars
that's not him acting like a Scorpio, that's him acting like an asshole.

from what I've noticed, Caps have short temper and are easily triggered just tell them there's an issue and they need to be better than they already are and they'd go nuts. if you're being really emotional when discussing these things, a Cap would pretty much overlook the whole point of the discussion and perceive it as a waste of time cause in a Cap eyes you're irrational.

Whereas, Scorpios can be assholes but not in the same sense. The Scorpios I know aren't reactive, they study their own reactions, they won't lash out -even if they feel like it- if they know you're going to use that reaction against them or if they're going to prove you right by reacting that way. They'd like to appear calm or do whatever so they can prove you wrong and be able to make a point later.

Both Capricorns and Scorpios are competitive, have ego issues and controlling tendencies, A Capricorn will feel insulted and angry if you called them out or confront them because they aren't that self aware when it comes to how they come across or how their actions effect other people (Earth signs thing), A Scorpio already know their shortcomings and would appear calm as they are trying to turn the table or justify whatever that they did to save a face. A mature Scorpio would admit it though and try to solve the issue.

Not exactly sure what "marker" means. But, I kind of see what you're saying. The thing is, I have no idea what he is in competition with, because I don't try to control hardly anything. He makes the final call on everything. I told him from the start that he can make the final decision for everything as long as he listens and considers my opinions too. It has worked for us up until this point. I guess I was a little more stubborn than normal recently, but I'm not perfect. Haha Anyhow, I am not being stubborn anymore...havent been for a while now, but he isn't going back to normal. He keeps doing things to upset me. It feels like he is trying to make my life hell for no reason.

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Posted by ladylibra21
He sounds like my first who was an Aries with the cap moon. He ended up being very abusive and almost killed me a couple times. You really shouldn't put up with that kind of manipulation.

I did see a red flag earlier this week. He got slightly physical, but just grabbing my arm super tight to not let me walk away. That kind of freaked me out, because my previous relationship was actually super abusive. I got thrown around, punched, choked, ... But that's the weird thing though because I know he is 100% different and not a physically violent person at all. So it made me feel like he is changing. I don't know why. We've been together like 8 months and he has never been like this.

The one thing that does bother me though is that I feel like recently he has become the king of hypocricy. But who knows, maybe I'm just an overly sensitive scorpio.

but why he started to being a freak? when you said capricorn acting like scorpio and then after you describe the comportement of a douche, what does it mean ? that scorpio are doucheB ? how are you are attitude with your capricorn ? op are you a freak ?

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Well, I don't really argue much or anything. I usually let him make decisions. I don't know. I don't feel like I'm really making things hard for him. But recently since he started being like this I guess I was a bit more stubborn, because I feel like he is treating me worse than before.

Posted by starwars
that's not him acting like a Scorpio, that's him acting like an asshole.

from what I've noticed, Caps have short temper and are easily triggered just tell them there's an issue and they need to be better than they already are and they'd go nuts. if you're being really emotional when discussing these things, a Cap would pretty much overlook the whole point of the discussion and perceive it as a waste of time cause in a Cap eyes you're irrational.

Whereas, Scorpios can be assholes but not in the same sense. The Scorpios I know aren't reactive, they study their own reactions, they won't lash out -even if they feel like it- if they know you're going to use that reaction against them or if they're going to prove you right by reacting that way. They'd like to appear calm or do whatever so they can prove you wrong and be able to make a point later.

Both Capricorns and Scorpios are competitive, have ego issues and controlling tendencies, A Capricorn will feel insulted and angry if you called them out or confront them because they aren't that self aware when it comes to how they come across or how their actions effect other people (Earth signs thing), A Scorpio already know their shortcomings and would appear calm as they are trying to turn the table or justify whatever that they did to save a face. A mature Scorpio would admit it though and try to solve the issue.

Also, on a side note, I seriously sometimes feel like he gets a man period around the time of my period. You know what I mean? Hahaha He just gets so stubborn.

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Posted by ladylibra21
He sounds like my first who was an Aries with the cap moon. He ended up being very abusive and almost killed me a couple times. You really shouldn't put up with that kind of manipulation.

I did see a red flag earlier this week. He got slightly physical, but just grabbing my arm super tight to not let me walk away. That kind of freaked me out, because my previous relationship was actually super abusive. I got thrown around, punched, choked, ... But that's the weird thing though because I know he is 100% different and not a physically violent person at all. So it made me feel like he is changing. I don't know why. We've been together like 8 months and he has never been like this.

The one thing that does bother me though is that I feel like recently he has become the king of hypocricy. But who knows, maybe I'm just an overly sensitive scorpio.

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Girl don't ignore controlling behavior bring it up when it happens and let hit m know you won't put up with that shit!

Also you can find his whole chart by imputing data here:



You don't have to have a time of birth but if you want to understand the full chart then you need it. But you can still find out his personal planets meaning Sun, Moon, Venus, Mercury, and Mars

@scorpio24356

http://astro.cafeastrology.com/natal.php

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Posted by starwars
that's not him acting like a Scorpio, that's him acting like an asshole.

from what I've noticed, Caps have short temper and are easily triggered just tell them there's an issue and they need to be better than they already are and they'd go nuts. if you're being really emotional when discussing these things, a Cap would pretty much overlook the whole point of the discussion and perceive it as a waste of time cause in a Cap eyes you're irrational.

Whereas, Scorpios can be assholes but not in the same sense. The Scorpios I know aren't reactive, they study their own reactions, they won't lash out -even if they feel like it- if they know you're going to use that reaction against them or if they're going to prove you right by reacting that way. They'd like to appear calm or do whatever so they can prove you wrong and be able to make a point later.

Both Capricorns and Scorpios are competitive, have ego issues and controlling tendencies, A Capricorn will feel insulted and angry if you called them out or confront them because they aren't that self aware when it comes to how they come across or how their actions effect other people (Earth signs thing), A Scorpio already know their shortcomings and would appear calm as they are trying to turn the table or justify whatever that they did to save a face. A mature Scorpio would admit it though and try to solve the issue.

did a cap harrassed u recently, angry virgo

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Idk I see some truth in @starwars post about getting Caps annoyed when told about something they overlooked.

Wait.. He says things to you like: your replaceable, he could easily leave you etc.

And you do nothing to really actually trigger him. And then he comes back to you?

Pause.

This behavior is unacceptable girl. Even before I read about him being more handsy than usual, this just sounded like emotional abuse. He knows he can say that and come back to you because you let him.

Don't fall into an abusive trap if you can help it. Call him out on his bi polar attitude.

If I was in this situation I would kick him in the shin for good measure also. But I have sag bits that won't tolerate this headassery he's putting you through so

Posted by starwars
that's not him acting like a Scorpio, that's him acting like an asshole.

from what I've noticed, Caps have short temper and are easily triggered just tell them there's an issue and they need to be better than they already are and they'd go nuts. if you're being really emotional when discussing these things, a Cap would pretty much overlook the whole point of the discussion and perceive it as a waste of time cause in a Cap eyes you're irrational.

Whereas, Scorpios can be assholes but not in the same sense. The Scorpios I know aren't reactive, they study their own reactions, they won't lash out -even if they feel like it- if they know you're going to use that reaction against them or if they're going to prove you right by reacting that way. They'd like to appear calm or do whatever so they can prove you wrong and be able to make a point later.

Both Capricorns and Scorpios are competitive, have ego issues and controlling tendencies, A Capricorn will feel insulted and angry if you called them out or confront them because they aren't that self aware when it comes to how they come across or how their actions effect other people (Earth signs thing), A Scorpio already know their shortcomings and would appear calm as they are trying to turn the table or justify whatever that they did to save a face. A mature Scorpio would admit it though and try to solve the issue.

Rt.

Some caps are known for that headass type of behavior.

It's not that they aren't patient. Patience has nothing to do w it, they just can't handle imperfection and someone else knowing about it. All earth signs have that type of flaw. But handle it in different ways.

Posted by Capri-sun
1. Why did he grab you by the arm to not leave? Were you 2 arguing?

2. I don't do things to get a reaction or compete to win or tit for tat or because you're doing it, I'm going to do it back to you. I am observant and will watch your reactions. I'm not going to do something and think "oh let me do this to get a reaction"

3. If you live in a place where weather changes, some caps have seasonal depression and simply don't fair well when it gets cold outside.

4. Is he under stress in another area of his life?

5. What would be the problem with just distancing and giving him space until he gets his stuff together?

6. Phase? I doubt it. People show their true colors between 6-12 months. When he shows them to you, believe him the first time.

1. Yes, we were arguing because he accused my of trying to get out of a date when I told him my classmate had just texted me that we might have class that night, which was supposed to be cancelled, and he didnt even want to see the text.

2.He admitted to me once that sometimes he does things just to see my reaction. He thinks it's funny when I get upset "for no reason" even though he purposefully causes it.

3. Good to know. I'll keep that in mind.

4. We have both been under a lot of stress, but he tells me he isn't thinking about the stressful things every day, although I really think he is.

5. See, sometimes when he is upset he asks for space. Usually I hate that, but I know he needs it. A few days ago, I told him that we should maybe try giving each other a little space for a bit, like he always says, and he freaked out because he thought I was asking to break up. He was still upset even after I re-explained what I meant. He wants to be the one to say we need space. And he tried to break up with me after that. He wanted to make me feel hurt. Then he took it all back after a few hours of saying horrible things to me. Telling me, "please forgive me. I'm a bad guy. I regretted it after I left you there. You're amazing."

6. That may be true, but I have known him longer than I've been dating him. It is a different side of him though. But, how am I supposed to know if all this is from stress or if it's his true colors? I don't wanna just judge him right now when he is having a hard time. I wanna somehow get past it and see what happens. But the issue is that I can't get him to move past it, and I know he needs some space before he spends Christmas and everything with my family. But if i try to give him space he will think something is wrong or I'm upset.

Any suggestions?