Capricorn ambition

Let's talk about capricorn ambition....

We are always climbing the mountain, always will be. Throughout all these years I've climbed that mountain. Though the landscape of that mountain has changed throughout time.

First subject ambition brings to mind is career ambition. Throughout my 20s and 30s it was always about career. Education to get ahead in my career. Status and title were important. Must. Be. The. Boss. Must. Get. To. The. Top. Everything I did, even community wise, fell back to my career. I got involved in career organizations, went to every network opportunity I could get my hands on. I even volunteered and got involved in certain community organizations because it looked good on a resume (not that I didn't care about those organizations. I did. Wouldn't get involved in one I didn't care about). Took offices in those organizations even though I didn't have time, because the office looked good on a resume (and I really did take them seriously and did my best). It wasn't just about career, but it helped make the decision to get involved.

Okay. I'm mid (late, dammit) 40s now. I'm established in my career. I'm where I wanted to be. I'm done doing the career climb. Have no desire to move up. No desire to do something just because it will help me move ahead. Oh, I wouldn't turn something down, it's just that I'm ready to plateau and enjoy the fruits of my labor.

So, does that mean I lost ambition. No, it's just changed due to the landscape.

The ambition now is more personal. Personal happiness. Personal planning for retirement. Personal enjoyment. Personal meaning focusing on relaxing and enjoying life and not having to work so dang hard.

Still climbing that mountain, but the landscape is not has tough of a terrain. Now, it's for totally different reasons or results. Maybe I'm just looking for a place to perch on that mountain. A good place to stop and rest.

So, caps, where are you at on the mountain? Or do you know older caps who seem to be where I'm at? Perhaps an example from a grandparent or older member of your community.

I don't know if what I was trying to say translated very well. I think I'm just ready to stop working so hard and start enjoying the fruits of all that labor.

If you're not there yet, then it's something to look forward to.

We could also take this thread in another direction and give examples of capricorn ambition and swap stories on the things we've done or other people have done that demonstrate that ambition.

Posted by caliber
i do things a little backwards.

see, i lack monetary ambition... especially being in my 20's, i really do. i don't have any interest in making tons of money or being that corner office with the nice metal name plaque on her door... i don't want 3 degrees, a nice car or big house.

debbie downer moment - bare with me. i've come to realize that it really doesn't matter how hard you try, what you do on the outside isn't really that important. people will still find holes in things you've accomplished or have opinions on what you do with your life and career, and attempt to define success for you by the model car you drive. all in all, it shouldn't matter. you don't get to take your pieces of paper or shiny possessions with you when you die. work your ass off everyday, for what? it's the same mundane set of activities that are on repeat from the time your 5 til you're laying stiff in a box 6 feet under. i don't wanna live life that way; i feel like i'll miss out on something better. i want to enjoy everything outside of the fast-paced, over-opinionated, tyranny we live every day. i want simplicity. i want to stop and smell the flowers; really appreciate life for what it is. we seemed to have forgotten the importance of that and though it's been evident for a few centuries, it's really rearing it's ugly head now. just look at the news.

all of those extra shiny things may be nice but they surely don't dictate your worth. and that's the sad part. because everyone else thinks it does. as far as i'm concerned, i'm the richest woman in the universe... even if my shitty job, car and clothing labels may dictate otherwise.

You have an awesome outlook on life. I applaud you!!!

I never did it to look good for other people, but for myself. I wanted that stuff. I wanted the nice house, the quality things. I didn't care what other people had. It makes sense to live beneath your means and without all the debt, so I wanted to make enough to get what I wanted and still live beneath my means.

Pretty much where you are with my outlook, truecap. Maybe it's a 40's thing?

My delusions of grandeur have passed by. I've reached contentment with my very ordinary life.

Being a better human will be my focus going forward.

Capmoon is very right.

And I love your attitude, Cal. You'll do fine in life.

Wonderful, meta.

Good for you.

Keep on truckin'. 🙂

When I was in my early twenties I had a different purpose in life and worked really hard to achieve it and I got what I wanted. I have a different purpose now and started looking at life from another angle. Thanks to all the lessons from Saturn. I am relaxed and taking it a bit slow now. I am content with what I have at the moment but I have new goals now and new approaches to achieving them. I am not still at a point where I feel I have accomplished enough. Below describes exactly how I feel :

"The woods are lovely dark and deep
But I have promises to keep
And miles to go before my sleep
And miles to go before my sleep" Robert Frost

I feel like my earth parts are broken. Since the whole 16 cars, mansion thing always seemed stupid to me. When I learned it was for status and bragging rights, that didn't change my opinion.

Time is my most precious resource, like hell I'm pissing it away to gain the approval of people who don't truly matter to me!

I'm looking into having multiple streams of income, bitcoin investment and all that stuff, but I'm not owned by anyone or anything. I am free. The power, money, etc I gain are to meet my goals, needs and wants. That's all at the moment.

Not sure if I'll be able to have a family, but I do know as of now, I'm on a journey to experience life the best I can.
...do wonder why people love being under my command though. 😐

I'm a lot like Caliber, but I find it very interesting that my family and friends will not accept or allow me to pursue that path. I am a person that is fine with necessities, and just want to live a simple life these days, but people are always in my ear. Family, friends, even strangers...to the point where I don't feel I'd get any rest or peace this way.

I'm so darn deceptive, even to myself, so maybe they see something I'm not aware of, idk. I started off pretty ambitious. There are things that I wanted for my life at a very young age, but I lost my way a very long time ago. There's always been gaps where I'd lose myself and have my head in the clouds, then get back on track somehow. At this moment, I've been lost in lala land for a long while now. There are reasons why imo, but its all excuses to others.

I do want a very simple life but a part of me is still very ambitious, just not in a traditional career type of way. I don't want to do the 9-5, but I always have ideas...businesses I'd like to have in the future, things I'd like to invent or create.

I do feel my journey has been more of a spiritual one, always. I sometimes feel I'm punished for not knowing exactly what I want, or really taking the time to explore and figure it out.

Posted by Sugarfoot
I'm not a cap but I'll answer anyway. I'm 35. I own my business which is great but it also means that I have zero help from anyone else with building my retirement. I'm in the process of figuring out how to increase revenue while putting in less time. I work hard but as I get older I see its better to work smart.

Now I feel like I have a good work/life balance. I am not doing what I went to school and got a degree for. I did that for a few years but it made me miserable. I decided that I needed to do what I love and that I'd only feel financially secure if there was nobody who could fire me at will. So I went to trade school as a 28 year old (much to the chagrin of my parents)lol, got licensed, got a job. I built up my clientele for the next 3 years and I've been a sole-proprietor sense then. I've been playing with the idea of joining forces with an ex-coworker and friend (Aries) to build something bigger and more profitable. I'm also thinking of becoming an educator in my field, teaching other licensed professionals in my specialty.

I don't think I'll ever retire. Caliber created a thread about secret career ambitions a while back that I never got around to posting in. I have an interest in nutritional healing. Anyone ever heard of Max Gerson? I could possibly retire into a career as a naturopath. As long as I love what I do and have a passion for learning more about it, I don't see the point in ever stopping work. It doesn't feel like work to me.

An Aries will be an excellent option to go into business with. They know how to make money and aren't afraid to take a risk. Just make sure they think about all the angles and pros and consequences first. Other than that, every Aries (except one) is doing well in business. They are not lazy and they're definitely a go-getter.

You seem a lot like me, probably why I like you so much! I'm not using my degree either. Went back to school for an associates so I could get certified in the career I have now. Much to the chagrin of my parents and friends. They thought if I were going back I should get a Master's (don't know what I'd do with it though). Good decision on my part. Much happier and doing pretty well.

Posted by lnana04
I'm a lot like Caliber, but I find it very interesting that my family and friends will not accept or allow me to pursue that path. I am a person that is fine with necessities, and just want to live a simple life these days, but people are always in my ear. Family, friends, even strangers...to the point where I don't feel I'd get any rest or peace this way.

I'm so darn deceptive, even to myself, so maybe they see something I'm not aware of, idk. I started off pretty ambitious. There are things that I wanted for my life at a very young age, but I lost my way a very long time ago. There's always been gaps where I'd lose myself and have my head in the clouds, then get back on track somehow. At this moment, I've been lost in lala land for a long while now. There are reasons why imo, but its all excuses to others.

I do want a very simple life but a part of me is still very ambitious, just not in a traditional career type of way. I don't want to do the 9-5, but I always have ideas...businesses I'd like to have in the future, things I'd like to invent or create.

I do feel my journey has been more of a spiritual one, always. I sometimes feel I'm punished for not knowing exactly what I want, or really taking the time to explore and figure it out.

Inana, you're grown. Do what you want to do. Your friends and family shouldn't have that much influence on you. It's your career....go for whatever you want!

Posted by caprigoral
Other people had conventional ambitions for me. I've often said I'm unambitious because I don't share other people's material/status ambitions for me. Maybe there are different ways of being ambitious, because others have said that even if I'm not career driven and never finished an education, they see me as very ambitious in making sure that the people I care about are well cared for; often get into conflicts with people in higher places when fighting for the special needs area. Others see me as having that rude kind of drive, they see in in ruthless people in the corporate World.

There's a Scorpio friend of mom's, who's known me since I was a child. When I was in HS she'd see me on a few Summer breaks and I'd talk about being protective of special needs students in school, then I worked in a nursing home after dropping out of another, another education I felt disillusioned by, and now as a mother. She said some years ago, that I have that Capricorn ruthlessness, in my ambitious way of ensuring the best for those in my care, be they special needs students, elderly or my own offspring, no matter what obstacles I meet and with no regard for other people I might piss off and fall out with, in my ambition to ensure that the people in my care get what I think they need. I want everyone to be as safe and secure as possible, and as self reliant as I can possibly help them to become.

I can see you as an administrator of a facility/clinic/school for special needs kids or as a nursing home administrator working with the elderly. Seems to combine your heart and head which would make for an excellent career and be helping people in the process.

Posted by BismoFunyuns
I have a cap sun and moon, and I dont feel very ambitious all the time. I know that some things have to be done, although I dont enjoy doing them.. But when I find something I like doing, I get very motivated. I enjoy working on cars, making wine/spirits etc. I dont enjoy school at all, i quit highschool my junior year and quit college within the first 3 months. Going to school isnt the only way to make money, I hope that one day I can start my own business in making wine. That way I get to work my own hours 🙂

I know a LOT of people without college, but make a whole lot more money than a college graduate. There are ways to combine your interests with business. Mechanic shops are doing well in these days and times, for example. Wine is always going to be a commodity. Start locally and expand. I'd look into it if I were you.

Posted by caprigoral

Posted by BismoFunyuns
I have a cap sun and moon, and I dont feel very ambitious all the time. I know that some things have to be done, although I dont enjoy doing them.. But when I find something I like doing, I get very motivated. I enjoy working on cars, making wine/spirits etc. I dont enjoy school at all, i quit highschool my junior year and quit college within the first 3 months. Going to school isnt the only way to make money, I hope that one day I can start my own business in making wine. That way I get to work my own hours 🙂

So if I'd been a man, my post would've been a whole paragraph shorter.😄

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Nah, just different mercury placements. 🙂

Making wine? That sounds nice.

I like the idea of school and always wanted a degree, but I never actually liked attending. In highschool my mother would always ask if I wanted to go to school and I'd always say "No!" I'd miss nearly 30+ days every school year smh. When I got to college I became so undecided on what I wanted to major in and what career path I wanted partly because nothing was worth me sitting through the classes each semester. I just wasn't passionate enough about the journey. I still want to eventually finish, but I've come to the conclusion that I can't lie to myself anymore and wanting to finish is not enough for me to push through it and actually do it.

@Truecap, my friends and family don't have that much influence over me, I just don't understand why they seem to make such a big deal out of what I'm doing, or not doing. I get it from both sides of my family and its stressful honestly. If I want to be unambitious or underachieve, so what. 80% of my family are underachievers, so why do I have to hear I'm selfish for it, depressed, in the slumps, I should think about x,y,z family member etc etc I always wonder. I don't think there's anyone else that goes through this on either side of my family. Friends hound me too.

Posted by lnana04
Making wine? That sounds nice.

@Truecap, my friends and family don't have that much influence over me, I just don't understand why they seem to make such a big deal out of what I'm doing, or not doing. I get it from both sides of my family and its stressful honestly. If I want to be unambitious or underachieve, so what. 80% of my family are underachievers, so why do I have to hear I'm selfish for it, depressed, in the slumps, I should think about x,y,z family member etc etc I always wonder. I don't think there's anyone else that goes through this on either side of my family. Friends hound me too.

They see your potential and think they are being supportive.

In a lot of ways, I feel that I am more like a Capricorn than a scorpio. Maybe because I have
venus - capricorn
mars - capricorn
jupiter - capricorn

Although reading all these posts about capricorn and achievement somehow I share the same sentiments. I am on my mid 30's, Ive climbed ladder and freed myself financially without the office job to clip my wings when I just want to procastinate 😄

Since highschool I've always been driven to succeed and get ahead. since 2011 after Saturn shaking me to my core I've learned to take a lot of things slow but the fire in me still blaze for a lot of things. Is it a Capricorn to want to continue to achieve so many things. That kind of momentum where you have achieved alot of your long term goals and then make a brand new list.

😄 I dont make much sense ... all I know is I don't want to retire. at a retirement age, I dont want to travel all year and roam the earth, I'd want to be in a college room teaching college students how to navigate life and carreer and be a shark before they even leave the university. (another dream to accomplish someday)

well my mother in law is retired but she is also doing free work, meaning volunteer work too.

so she never stops working. More like social work on the side and helping organizations. Using also the internet, and going to social events.

My capricorn uncles are retired too, but they still work. One of them is working on their house they bought a few years back and is building on it. Perhaps it's for his children who are already grown, because he lives by himself.

my other uncle, his wife unfortunately died last year, so he's still grieving.

Lol, you sound so excited Choco. I like Scorpio ambition because of the passion tied to it all. Imo, Capricorns are determined but can lack passion. If we lose the determination its a wrap.

I still have a little determination left in me, but Im not passionate about anything. Never been.

@Truecap. People probably do see potential but I think it's other things tied in aswell. I don't know of anyone doing what they love. They all want more, but are not there. Im starting to think I'm an easy target sometimes to dump their life frustrations on. Im no psychologist but id never think i was helping someone by technically kicking them while their down. I also think if you are truly happy it would radiate and not so much time would be spent on what I'm doing. Ive been irritated by my Cancer aunt, again. She's over 1000 miles away making comments. The weight has been slowing me down, but im about to stop these people from dampening my energy.

Scorpio are passionate because they are also MARS RULED.

that's where they get it. Also, look at Aries ruled men. Same thing. Very passionate and intense.

it's in their nature.

but people with dominant Scorpio in their chart will act the same way.