Four-letter word

This topic was created in the Capricorn forum by SpiceNSugar on Friday, May 1, 2015 and has 18 replies.

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Why is it that Capricorns use the word "drama" with nearly the same tone as they would use a four-letter word?

It seems like Caps think of everything as "drama" even when this seeming "drama" is really just real life!

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Watched that video and totally agree. People are freaking delusional about how wealthy they are.

I work as a reall estate agent in NYC where renting a 2br apt runs along 4k per month and you have to make 160k to qualify and get the apt. People choose to pay this so they can "walk" to work because commuting is too difficult (even though NYC has the best commuter system in the nation)

To most of America 160k is a blessing and more than you could ask. But working with these high wealth individuals, its clear that poverty and wealth is a state of mind. Many of these clients balk at the idea of having to pay for my service (brokers fee) and will complain about the administrative fees like credit check and processing fees, all part of a service they requested. When choosing an apt and seeing how stressed out they get on the overall costs, as if they lived check to check, I swore I would always consider myself wealthy. And now allow the pressures of society to tell me I was poor.

End Rant. Sorry long day at work. 🙂

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I'd say it would be due to the "dramatics" interfering with dealing with the situation calmly, quickly and rationally.

Won't lie. Have had thoughts of just taking totally over during a high stress situation and just delegating all who would drain me or get in the way on "get fresh towels and boil water" duty.

(Which means give them busy work so that they're out of the way.)

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Posted by champranger

Posted by truecap
I, for one, detest drama.

When people react dramatically to a situation, they are reacting on emotion and not logic. They lose all rationality.

Does Caps view being dramatic (in expression) and creating drama (damsel in distress) as the same?

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Creating drama is worse, I would say, but it depends on your definition of "being dramatic in expression".

For example, over reacting to a situation, making mountains out of molehills, etc is a dramatic reaction and it interferes with the ability to see the big picture and solve a problem. So, that would be pretty much the same.

Telling a story with voice changes and body language would be okay and entertaining and not be a problem. Unless it's over the top and I'd just roll my eyes.

Hope that makes sense.

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OK so let me more specific, although I really don't want to get into too many details.

Scenario:

Recently found out a close family member is having health issues. A group of us (family members) discuss this matter animatedly, with genuine concern, considering different courses of action. Cap family member walks into the room and says, "What's all this drama about?!"

Everyone turns around, looks at said-Cap incredulously, conversation ends abruptly because everyone else felt annoyed by this apparent insensitivity to the problem at hand.

(Just to be clear, the Cap was completely aware of the content of the discussion...).

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Posted by SpiceNSugar
OK so let me more specific, although I really don't want to get into too many details.

Scenario:

Recently found out a close family member is having health issues. A group of us (family members) discuss this matter animatedly, with genuine concern, considering different courses of action. Cap family member walks into the room and says, "What's all this drama about?!"

Everyone turns around, looks at said-Cap incredulously, conversation ends abruptly because everyone else felt annoyed by this apparent insensitivity to the problem at hand.

(Just to be clear, the Cap was completely aware of the content of the discussion...).

Yes, that is rude -- considering the scenario.

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Posted by champranger

Posted by truecap

Posted by champranger

Posted by truecap
I, for one, detest drama.

When people react dramatically to a situation, they are reacting on emotion and not logic. They lose all rationality.

Does Caps view being dramatic (in expression) and creating drama (damsel in distress) as the same?

Creating drama is worse, I would say, but it depends on your definition of "being dramatic in expression".

For example, over reacting to a situation, making mountains out of molehills, etc is a dramatic reaction and it interferes with the ability to see the big picture and solve a problem. So, that would be pretty much the same.

Telling a story with voice changes and body language would be okay and entertaining and not be a problem. Unless it's over the top and I'd just roll my eyes.

Hope that makes sense.

Thank you for the reply. I always liked reading your responses. 🙂

What about venting? Like being frustrated about a problem that one can't solve in the immediate future through practical means?

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Men really don't like to hear it, but sometimes it's necessary. Just say up front, I need to vent, you don't have to solve it, I just need to get this out to feel better. Then he knows you're not asking him to solve it and he won't get frustrated trying and feeling like you're not listening to his solution. Hope that makes sense.

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Posted by SpiceNSugar

Posted by champranger

Posted by SpiceNSugar

Posted by CapTenn
Due to a severe distaste for bullshit. 🙂

What about when it's not bullsit but sincere worry on the part of the other person?

Worry about a problem doesn't solve the actual problem though.

Oh! I see you've been converted.

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I don't see how worry equals drama. Unless you're making mountains out of molehills and seeing a problem that really isn't there.

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Posted by champranger
I think if one unhappily stayed in a negative situation where they did nothing to remedy the situation and they keep expressing it to other people, then it may likely be considered as drama by a Cap.

Yep! Either solve the problem or quit talking about it. It gets tiresome hearing someone complain about the same thing over and over and over.

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Posted by SpiceNSugar
OK so let me more specific, although I really don't want to get into too many details.

Scenario:

Recently found out a close family member is having health issues. A group of us (family members) discuss this matter animatedly, with genuine concern, considering different courses of action. Cap family member walks into the room and says, "What's all this drama about?!"

Everyone turns around, looks at said-Cap incredulously, conversation ends abruptly because everyone else felt annoyed by this apparent insensitivity to the problem at hand.

(Just to be clear, the Cap was completely aware of the content of the discussion...).

So, pick a solution and follow through. Ulitmately, it's up to the family member who actually HAS the health issue to decide on how they want to do with it. Whether you agree with their decision or not, respect their wishes. Talking about other solutions isn't helping anything but creating unecessary discussion. A cap might see that as drama.

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And if the family member isn't capable of making their decision, everyone get together make a list of pros and cons of each course of action and choose the one with the most pros. However, people let emotions rule the decision making process and when they can't select something logically and rationally, then I can see where a cap could view the discussion as a dramatic discussion. It's not about the cap not feeling the emotion or not caring, it's just the caps have the ability to take emotion out of the situation in order to make a logical decision. This comes across as cold, but it is one way a cap makes decisions.

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Posted by champranger
Thank you truecap. 🙂

Posted by truecap

Posted by SpiceNSugar
OK so let me more specific, although I really don't want to get into too many details.

Scenario:

Recently found out a close family member is having health issues. A group of us (family members) discuss this matter animatedly, with genuine concern, considering different courses of action. Cap family member walks into the room and says, "What's all this drama about?!"

Everyone turns around, looks at said-Cap incredulously, conversation ends abruptly because everyone else felt annoyed by this apparent insensitivity to the problem at hand.

(Just to be clear, the Cap was completely aware of the content of the discussion...).

So, pick a solution and follow through. Ulitmately, it's up to the family member who actually HAS the health issue to decide on how they want to do with it. Whether you agree with their decision or not, respect their wishes. Talking about other solutions isn't helping anything but creating unecessary discussion. A cap might see that as drama.

I don't know. I think the Cap could have skipped the first line and got right down to helping them find the right course of action.

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Maybe it was a joke...a dry, sarcastic joke that fell flat because it was ill-timed and wasn't received as such.

*shrugs*