Have I been dosed by a Capricorn?

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Okay so I posted some time ago that I have this cap friend whom I recently become lovers with. We have been friends since 2006. Well we continue to talk as we do, and he told me today....."PD you are my best friend, I can tell you anything, and the sex well that is just the added bonus". So here he is pulling on my heart strings. I was not feeling him on every level, however today he struck a cord with me. What has happened? We are spending time together all Thursday afternoon. We seem so different, yet I feel like I can tell him anything as he can with me. I just might take a look at this connection on Thursday once again to see if anything changes for me. It is hard to say. He has the patience of a saint to deal with my lovely firey energy. I just have this "idea" of whom I see myself with and he does not meet all those things. Maybe I just need to scratch these ideas and really see what fits with me— Am I settling is another question? So confused ....as a Pisces I know it gets tricky because I can be lead by emotion. Emotionally it feels good. *sigh* oooo and sexually as well. lol

So I am rambling.....just wondering if anyone had the experience of not really feeling the person you are hanging with and than one day the light bulb just comes on? Just realized maybe I should post this on the relationship forum.

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Posted by amethyst2002
Whatever you do, do NOT let yourself go there emotionally. This is where fwb can go horribly wrong. The guy says something that flips the girl's emotions and then next thing she knows, she has feelings and fwb just got complicated.

For your sake, and the sake of the friendship, do whatever you can to NOT let your feelings go there.



I sometimes wonder if it is already too late because I think he has already started to establish feelings. I am the one who has been delayed. 😢 It is silly and foolish to think friends who have been friends for 4 years can all of a sudden become lovers and remain the same. Does that make sense? It is hard to say where this will go. Everyone wants a partner who gets them ....I think we are trying to figure out what this all really means. Dear gawd maybe we just totatlly fucked up a pretty good friendship? *sigh* If I can be so candid and honest I don't do so well with this relationship stuff. *sigh*

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idk ....as a Pisces women I have this fucked up idea with rose-colored glasses of what it will be like. Maybe this is it?? He totally gets me, we love being together and doing things and talk just about every day, and the sex ....is really great.

I am hesitant because of the following:

1 - He just got a divorce I don't want to be the re-bound gal.
2 - We don't have exactly the same interest i.e. I love fitness and health .....well and he needs to be more healthier. 😉 I am always giving him crap about watching what he eats and dropping some body fat. Dangerous on the heart.
3 - He loves to go fishing and I have gone with him and I love being in the sun but it really is not my cup of tea. I do like the outdoors though
4 - Sometimes he does not always see the obvious.....and I have to point things out to him ....or at least what I think is the obvious. lol
5 - Our music taste seem to be completely off.
6 - Our taste in things can really be very off.
7 - He hates confrontation and I noticed often times he will just kind of go along that drives me crazy. You know stand up to me. lol Lets fight and than have great make-up sex. lol 😛
8 - I am attracted to him intellectually, somewhat emotionally, and only a little phsically.

Why this could work:

1 - We used to work togehter and I can help him with a lot of his RFP writing and support him to start his own brokerage company.
2 - He totally 100% supports me in my career goals / education and believes in me.
3 - He has one kid around the same age of both of mine. They met at company functions when we used to work together. I advised we should not bring children into this mix until we get this stuff figured out.
4 - He knows everything about me as I do him.
5 - sex sex sex ....is very compatible
6 - I love that he loves his kid
7 - I love that he does not drink or do drugs. The last couple of guys I dated and it really bothered me. *sigh* Dont get me wrong I like to drink but it is not the focus of my life.
8 - We are really great friends. Crazy thing when we worked together many of our colleagues accused us of having an affair because we spent a lot of time together however we both never went there until he got divorced.
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Cap luv and ms pisces thanks for making me aware. Excellent advice. You are correct. I think I want to be in a relationship and maybe I have started to convince myself I want a relationship more than I really do with cap. I adore cap and like my time with him however I will admit I don't have that burning passionate love for him that I would hope to have for someone I am in love with.*sigh*

I am not quiet ready to throw in the towel because the sex is really great and the way I feel about cap is he feels like a big warm comfy sweater.

To answer the question...the only deal breakers on my list are the drugs and alcohol. I must admit the health stuff may be a deal breaker for me to. I value health so much and respect people who really try to take care of themselves. I could see it being a problem if we ever lived together and he wants to fill the Fridge with soda and dolly madisons. It would be contradictory life style s and I could see both of us getting frustrated with this issue.*sigh* I am sure he does not want me to tell him how to eat and I don't want crap in my cupboard. *sigh*

So maybe we both can continue to see each other since neither of us have anyone else at the present moment. It works and we are both not disliking the time together.

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Cap luv and ms pisces thanks for making me aware. Excellent advice. You are correct. I think I want to be in a relationship and maybe I have started to convince myself I want a relationship more than I really do with cap. I adore cap and like my time with him however I will admit I don't have that burning passionate love for him that I would hope to have for someone I am in love with.*sigh*

.. maybe that's why you got into a FWB thing with the cap in the first place, because you want to be in a real relationship but haven't found a guy that you can be with right now. The cap guy is cool but you just don't feel it but you want to.
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Cap luv and ms pisces thanks for making me aware. Excellent advice. You are correct. I think I want to be in a relationship and maybe I have started to convince myself I want a relationship more than I really do with cap. I adore cap and like my time with him however I will admit I don't have that burning passionate love for him that I would hope to have for someone I am in love with.*sigh*

.. maybe that's why you got into a FWB thing with the cap in the first place, because you want to be in a real relationship but haven't found a guy that you can be with right now. The cap guy is cool but you just don't feel it but you want to.



True Cappy .....very true. That is what I am trying to decide. Maybe I am just over thinking it and forgetting to live in the moment. Right now the moments with Cap are wonderful. I am just questioning real love, is it really supposed to feel like butterflies in your tummy or is it really being with your best friend like a comfy sweater? I don't know what it is. I can tell you this much I pretty much suck at it because I have never been able to figure it out or succesfully obtain it. So when I talk about my "ideas" I sometimes question if they are realistic. So maybe that is what I am questioning. It goes like this I could be looking for Mr. Wonderful guy throughout the universe, what if Cap is it and I am just blind to it? Than I question what if I would be settling and my ideas are realistic? It is tough because every time I have these passionate little affairs they never pan out the ones with the butterflies. I must admit my relationship with Cap reminds me a little of my relationship with my ex-husband, except the sex is way better. 😛 The reason it reminds me of my ex-husband is because he is kind, loving, caring, easy to talk to, and very comfortable to me. I can tell him anything.

My analogy ...it is like shopping for a piece of furniture....you have a piece in mind you want for your living room, but when you get to the gallery you see this piece and it just speaks to you and feels right. All the while you are racking your brain and time looking for this piece and all of a sudden ...boom there it is and it is nothing like you envisioned but it fits perfect in your living room. I know bad to compare men to furniture ....*sigh* No offense guys however that is what I am wondering if how love works. It i
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"8 - I am attracted to him intellectually, somewhat emotionally, and only a little phsically."

sorry i'm busy today didn't have time to read everything everyone says. but just this along i agree with ms.pisces. your affection is forced not genuine enough to sustain. just my 2 cents. i'm a bit confused how you can have great sex if you are only a little (chemistry) attracted to him tho. i guess the mechanical aspect of sex speak different languages to different ppl. without chemistry, it speaks very little to me.



I don't know if other pisces feel the same, but for me to have sexual chemistry I have to have the intellectual and emotional aspect as the first connection. Looks are secondary. He is not completely unattractive. He actually is quiet handsome, he is a bit on the chubby side, but it is because his diet is horrible and I scold him about it all the time. Not because it makes him put on weight but I am concerned with his health (heart, diabetes, cholesterol, etc.). I generally like healthy men, athletic men. I noticed the four years I have known him that his weight will change often. I have seen him when he is more trim.

I can see the most attractive man, however if I don't connect intellecutally or emotionally it will not go any where.
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Cap luv and ms pisces thanks for making me aware. Excellent advice. You are correct. I think I want to be in a relationship and maybe I have started to convince myself I want a relationship more than I really do with cap. I adore cap and like my time with him however I will admit I don't have that burning passionate love for him that I would hope to have for someone I am in love with.*sigh*

.. maybe that's why you got into a FWB thing with the cap in the first place, because you want to be in a real relationship but haven't found a guy that you can be with right now. The cap guy is cool but you just don't feel it but you want to.



True Cappy .....very true. That is what I am trying to decide ... My analogy ...it is like shopping for a piece of furniture....you have a piece in mind you want for your living room, but when you get to the gallery you see this piece and it just speaks to you and feels right. All the while you are racking your brain and time looking for this piece and all of a sudden ...boom there it is and it is nothing like you envisioned but it fits perfect in your living room. I know bad to compare men to furniture ....*sigh* No offense guys however that is what I am wondering if how love works. It i
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No offense taken 🙂 I think it's a good thing that you are trying to figure this thing called 'love' out and all it's involved and stuff like that. Its just suckie that you had to get involved in a FWB situation to start questioning what you really want because things must be so darn confusing for you right now.

I guess I understand b/c I recently (well too recently but recent enough) got out of this thing with a Sag guy. We were going dating (going or whatever) but I just had to question whether or not I wanted to be his girlfriend because I wanted to be or because I just wanted to be in a relationship. Then I realized that I really didn't like him like that and that was a bit of an eye-opener for me. That's why I am delightfully single until I figure some things out 🙂

That's what I kinda felt from your post, trying to figure things out. Not that you didn't care about the guy but whether or not you just settled for FWB because you want something more than that .. but maybe not with him.
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Okay and it was not like one day we looked at each other and said "Hey lets become FWB". He had always been attracted to me since we have known each other however we just never went there. One of the qualms of why he got divorced, his wife never gave him sex. I could not believe it. He remained loyal to her for 9 years of their marriage. He had not had sex in 7 years. So we were together one afternoon, we were joking about having sex and he said "well I am like a virgin you know, do you want to take advantage of me?" So we got on to this discussion on what he did that whole 7 years. Next thing you know we are talking about him and me. I told him as your friend, I will do this for you. So we got together one afternoon and had some of the most satisfying sex and than we just kept getting together. I don't think neither of us expected to really like being together as much as we did, at least I did not. So that is how we became FWB / Lovers whatever you want to call it. Now we just really enjoy the friendship that much more.

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Okay and it was not like one day we looked at each other and said "Hey lets become FWB". He had always been attracted to me since we have known each other however we just never went there. One of the qualms of why he got divorced, his wife never gave him sex. I could not believe it. He remained loyal to her for 9 years of their marriage. He had not had sex in 7 years. So we were together one afternoon, we were joking about having sex and he said "well I am like a virgin you know, do you want to take advantage of me?" So we got on to this discussion on what he did that whole 7 years. Next thing you know we are talking about him and me. I told him as your friend, I will do this for you. So we got together one afternoon and had some of the most satisfying sex and than we just kept getting together. I don't think neither of us expected to really like being together as much as we did, at least I did not. So that is how we became FWB / Lovers whatever you want to call it. Now we just really enjoy the friendship that much more.

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Oh I see. I don't know, something tells me the situation were different, you'd really be into this cap guy -- I mean, really into him 😄 If just with the friendship and the sex, things are bot comfortable and complicated.
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You know sometimes our lists for the perfect partner are almost unobtainable...esp if it is 2nd time around and you have shared a huge portion of your life with someone else...

We are still looking to be swept off our feet and hopelessly in love with the new significant other..

But honestly how long does that honeymoon faze really last for—

I think the questions you should be asking yourself as well are:

-Do you see yourself with this person for the rest of your life? Happy to be working together and growing old together..
-Do you share the same interests in the long term?
-Would you want to nurse him when he is sick or will he really be there for you?
-Does he have your back?
-Is he enough for you that you wont want to look further or will you always be looking for someone better?

Ask the hard questions first PD and then figure what you are really feeling with this man.


As for turning a FWB into a relationship if that's what you decide...I'll leave that to the others! lol
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You know sometimes our lists for the perfect partner are almost unobtainable...esp if it is 2nd time around and you have shared a huge portion of your life with someone else...

We are still looking to be swept off our feet and hopelessly in love with the new significant other..

But honestly how long does that honeymoon faze really last for—

I think the questions you should be asking yourself as well are:

-Do you see yourself with this person for the rest of your life? Happy to be working together and growing old together..
-Do you share the same interests in the long term?
-Would you want to nurse him when he is sick or will he really be there for you?
-Does he have your back?
-Is he enough for you that you wont want to look further or will you always be looking for someone better?

Ask the hard questions first PD and then figure what you are really feeling with this man.


As for turning a FWB into a relationship if that's what you decide...I'll leave that to the others! lol



SH - What you say is EXACTLY what I am thinking. I cannot explain it, yeah I don't know how to explain it, but I have not been swept off my feet by cap ....but we make a great an excellent partnership. I do know how hard that is to hard to find, that is why I am really looking at this. Thanks for asking some great questions.

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Spent the last two days with Capricorn. We had a great time. We enjoy being together and I think we are starting to really like this being together. OMG the best part is when we are laying in bed the snuggling it really does feel like a warm cozy sweater. 🙂 VERY COMFORTABLE!! I cannot explain it other than this just feels right. I have not felt this comfortable with someone in a long time. Love the talking after sex ...it is the best. That is the great part of having a great foundation of friendship because we do enjoy the conversations. He is so cute, he text me back and said his favorite parts of our time together was laying together afterward, because it felt so great. Ahhhhh I would have to agree with him. He also text back, I just dropped you off at your house and I already miss the softness of your perfect skin, your soft hair, and I can still taste you.

All I can say I have not been with someone in a long time who is eager to please. *sigh of relief* He not only gets me as a friend, he really is a great lover and he pays attention to detail by the responses of my body, and it is almost like he knows exactly what to do next. This my friend ....makes a great lover!!! 🙂 Are Capricorns known for detail?? lol 😛

So I am seeing him again on Monday after I finish with school stuff. Doing my best to just enjoy the moments, but when we said good-bye tonight ....there is definately a more closeness than the time before. It was like neither of us really wanted to say good-bye. Too soon for us to merge our children, but we had a long conversation about the personailities, likes/dislikes of our children. I am starting to ask myself ....why would I not want to be with a man who adores me this much? What am I afraid of?

I have been dating for a long time .......but the best part of Capricorn ....I don't have to spend all this time racking my brain how he feels about me, because he expresses in his actions, words, and how open he is with how he feels about me. I really like this. 🙂

PD
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Ok ....it is official .....we just ruined a completely good friendship. 😢

Our communicating style s just DO NOT mesh whatsoever. We had a disagreement and his idea of dealing is to not respond. I know with his ex-wife they never fought. So he does not deal with the confrontation. I called him out on something and he went silent. I cannot be with a person who does not know how to communicate. I have axed him off my list on FB, deleted his number, his IM, and I am not seeing him any more. He has another thing coming if he thinks I am going to chase his a $ $ . In reality good relationships know how to work through conflict, he is definately not my match. I have not talked to him in two weeks. He can pretty much kiss my a $ $ . It was not the conflict itself that upset me the most, it is his behavior on how he dealt with it or should I say lack of dealing with it. Are all Capricorns like this— Conflict avoiders—

I should have seen the pattern years ago. When he was married instead of going home to deal with the problem he absorbed himself in fishing and avoiding his home. That BS only works for so long, and maybe his ex-wife could care less because she was sitting at home on her fat ass eating bon bons while he supported her. *kicks self* SHOULD HAVE NEVER GONE THERE!!! Argghhhhhh I knew there was something about him that I was not overly excited about, now I think I know what it is, he is simply a person who goes through the motions of life, and does not get himself emotionally involved.

I do this over and over ......get involved with people from the begininng whom I know are not a good match but I explore it anyway.....you know just in case I am wrong. *sigh*

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Our communicating style s just DO NOT mesh whatsoever. We had a disagreement and his idea of dealing is to not respond... I called him out on something and he went silent. I cannot be with a person who does not know how to communicate.
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I find it odd that your relationship criteria is depended on how a person responses to arguments, disagreements & conflicts...ie all the NEGATIVE aspects of a relationship rather than.....

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Spent the last two days with Capricorn. We had a great time....OMG the best part is when we are laying in bed the snuggling it really does feel like a warm cozy sweater. 🙂 VERY COMFORTABLE!! I cannot explain it other than this just feels right. I have not felt this comfortable with someone in a long time. Love the talking after sex ...it is the best....

All I can say I have not been with someone in a long time who is eager to please. *sigh of relief* He not only gets me as a friend, he really is a great lover and he pays attention to detail by the responses of my body, and it is almost like he knows exactly what to do next. This my friend ....makes a great lover!!!

..but the best part of Capricorn ....I don't have to spend all this time racking my brain how he feels about me, because he expresses in his actions, words, and how open he is with how he feels about me.
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how GOOD he makes you feel when you're together. And as you've said so yourself, he expresses himself in his actions, words and knows how to response to your body. Isn't THAT more important than how he responds to a disagreement?

Funny how some folks say all they want is a nice guy who makes them feel good......and yet they dump a guy because of how he DIDN'T get into a shouting match with them. It's like, "how dare he NOT respond to my arguments....I must break up with him."
They never seem to think, "Man, this guy makes me feel soooo good. I really wanna be with him"

Why do people base a relationship how a man bickers & argues with them rather than how good a man makes them feel?

Y'know PD, to you, it might seem...
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BW - I appreciate you pointing out how sweet he is, but that has been plagued by someone who avoids and to me that signifies coward. We just end up not being a good match. It is who I am and I need someone who has good conflict resolution skills. Yes, the sex was great but at the end of the day when we are 75 and the sex is gone how are we to deal with real world problems if he goes hiding his tail behind his legs. I am not someone who is going to coddle him to face the reality. I have not heard from him and I have no plans of ever contacting him again. I have pretty much written him off. I have never met someone who just ran like he did. Regardless of how petty the fight may have been, which by the way was not petty whatsoever. I had my reservations about him and it makes sense .....we are just not the right match.

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Posted by Pisces_Dream

Our communicating style s just DO NOT mesh whatsoever. We had a disagreement and his idea of dealing is to not respond... I called him out on something and he went silent. I cannot be with a person who does not know how to communicate.
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I find it odd that your relationship criteria is depended on how a person responses to arguments, disagreements & conflicts...ie all the NEGATIVE aspects of a relationship rather than.....

Posted by Pisces_Dream
Spent the last two days with Capricorn. We had a great time....OMG the best part is when we are laying in bed the snuggling it really does feel like a warm cozy sweater. 🙂 VERY COMFORTABLE!! I cannot explain it other than this just feels right. I have not felt this comfortable with someone in a long time. Love the talking after sex ...it is the best....

All I can say I have not been with someone in a long time who is eager to please. *sigh of relief* He not only gets me as a friend, he really is a great lover and he pays attention to detail by the responses of my body, and it is almost like he knows exactly what to do next. This my friend ....makes a great lover!!!

..but the best part of Capricorn ....I don't have to spend all this time racking my brain how he feels about me, because he expresses in his actions, words, and how open he is with how he feels about me.
PD



how GOOD he makes you feel when you're together. And as you've said so yourself, he expresses himself in his actions, words and knows how to response to your body. Isn't THAT more important than how he responds to a disagreement?

Funny how some folks say all they want is a nice guy who makes them feel good......and yet they dump a guy because of how he DIDN'T get into a shouting match with them. It's like, "how dare he NOT respond to my arguments....I must break up with him."
They never seem to think, "Man, this guy makes me feel soooo good. I really wanna be with him"

Why do people base a relationship how a man bickers & argues with them rather than how good a man makes them feel?

Y'know PD, to you, it might seem...
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Yep been through this. 🦇
Caps are so emotionally-checked within themselves that people press our buttons j
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Well, my guess is that these men deal with so much crap thrown at them (the never-ending obstacles) at the office/career that they don't want to waste their time on conflicts on the personal front too. So they choose not to bother with petty stuff.

Btw, ever occurred to you that he LET you break up with him because...right from the start...like you, he too could sense that there was something missing. Don't be fooled by the legendary Cap deadpan look. They have the tail of fish (ie half-water). So they're as intuitive as any water sign...they just hide it better. He probably saw right through you & pretty much guessed that when you picked a fight with him, you were testing him (ie seeing if he was potential mate material). Caps, like Aquarians, hate being tested.

So rather than dump you & deal with your emotional baggage (let's face it, ALL women hate being dumped & will respond with fury, antagonism, jealousy games, etc towards the dumper)..he let YOU dump him; making it look like it was your idea all along.

You could call him a coward if you want. Most martial arts masters (the evolved ones anyway) will tell you that a superior mind is one that walks AWAY from a fight....and that the only time you should get into one is for self-defence when you're cornered or to defend your loved ones; Not to give the provoking party the satisfaction of goading you into a fight just to see how you react.

As for the part about growing old, being 75 & not having sex....wow, I guess you don't know about how randy these goats become as they grow older, do ya 🙂

But seriously, Caps don't sweat the small stuff. They avoid it & move on to bigger things. Your worry seems to be that when the 2 of you are 75, he won't stay & argue with you over petty issues. HIS worry at 75 is probably how to provide for you the best medical care he can when the inevitable senior citizen's diseases strike. Different priorities, my dear. Hence the different reactions to issues.

Anyhoo, it's your call. Not trying to get you back to him. Just trying to offer a dif perspective on these mysterious mergoats.


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PD probably have lots of fire in her. they cannot stand a man who runs away from confrontations. once a man is identified as weak. he is gone. no respect no love.



BW - Sugar coat it however you want but the issue was definately not petty.....but I think SG is on to something.....I have tons of fire in me. I respect that we were not the right match. Maybe we can try to be friends down the road ...maybe not ....but I never felt that firey passion for him.....yeah the sex was good....but never connected on an intellectual and emotional level. This avoidance just sealed the deal for me that it would never work.

I just started dating a Scorpio with a lot of air in his chart ......and man he gets me.....like no one ever. SG .....I am telling you it is not just about sun sign that matters we are talking all elements because earth is supposed to be good for water signs but I have this consistancy that it is great ......but never that intense connection that I need (fire in me). I don't feel like I am settling with scorpio.....we match temperments and on so many levels .....when I do feel emo he does not freak out and try to fix me but is an amazing sounding board and he talks with me about . This relationship really feels safe to me. I think everyone wants to be in a relationship where someone get them and I unfortunately never felt that with Capricorn. 😢

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I just started dating a Scorpio with a lot of air in his chart ......and man he gets me.....

PD



For now..... 🙂

lol! Not trying to sugarcoat anything. Merely trying to find a logical explanation for their behavior. I'm always trying to figure these guys out. They're a constant mystery that I cannot resist trying to unravel. I never fall for that pokerface 'cos I know there's something more there 🙂