Are all Leo men crazy—

My friend the Leo that I have been friends with since I was 4 confessed to me after not seeing him in 14 years that he has been in love with me forever. That was something to swallow but I got my head around it even though I wont see him till Feb next year. We both live in different countries. So he is sort of courting me over the net and it's been nice and I can see that we would be very good together if all the sparks are there in person when we meet up again.

BUT today he tells me he wants kids and with me!!!!! My youngest is 14 and I have a 17 & 20 year old and that is the craziest thing I've ever heard not to mention that I'm way too old to even think about going there again.

So the celebs are doing it but I dont have a full time nanny or any patience left and cant think of anything worst than having a teen when I'm nearing 60!!! WOw I cant get this out of my head now and have told him to find someone younger that can do all this with him. He says it's me he wants... do you guys stop and think before things like this come out of your mouths— Some people talk first and think later but I thought that Leos are very level headed. Will his wants change I wonder because I know I'm not going down that path again so there isn't a compromise and I think he might think he will change my mind.

I guess there had to be something to burst my bubble, everything seemed to be too perfect **shakes head**

Because we dont want to be looked at as mothers once that faze has past...Milfs are hot because they have taken pride in their appearance and worked damn hard to keep themselves looking great. And I can guarantee you it's not to capture some young guy who wants to turn them back into mother hubbard!!!! Let alone an older guy who has sown his wild oats for 25 years and then decided it's time to have kids.

I mean good on him for seeing the world and living life to the full but serious find a candidate that can provide you with what you want when you decide that it's your time. I'm pissed that he's given me a glimpse into a world of possibility and it looked & felt good and now I feel he's yank that rug out from underneath me!!!

i hear the guys are pretty crazy. i wouldn't say i'm crazy. it's just that aquarius is my ascendant. heh.

impulsive lovers, he won't mean it when and if reality set in, you will most likely end up being a mom to him and the baby....they love good though but when it's bad it's real bad....sounds like he's caught up in the moment because you responded positively to his confession of love and now he's talking out the side of his neck....no worries, no need to be pissed, he will let it go soon

Yeah it's hard to read Tiki cos even though he is upfront with alot of things he's still a man and only lets so much go! His confessions are a little over the top for what I'm wanting but not completely out there in time...(not the babies) It's kinda frustrating but in time and with patience(which I can lack) i'll get all my answers I'm sure. Just wish he'd stop with the hidden messaging!!

Whats yours like PP, do you have to treat him like a King all the time or does he actually look after you very well? This one is treating me like his Princess already but then he hasnt got me yet... so it makes me wonder if he will want it to be spun around later once he thinks he's hooked me and then expect me to tend to all his needs!

Now that would be ok but as a Libran I like things very balanced and dont want it to be all about him!

Sounds intriguing!!! Never really been put up on a pedastal...haha

Posted by ninjamu
i hear the guys are pretty crazy. i wouldn't say i'm crazy. it's just that aquarius is my ascendant. heh.

LOL!! I have Aquarius as my ascendant too!!! 😉

Yeah I can feel it...

I think he was just throwing it out there as "his regret" for not having done it properly the first time round as he has a 21 year old but wasnt there for him.

Funny I've never been with anyone that really puts you up on that pedastal....so it's going to be an experience and something I'm sure I dont want to miss out on even if it's an unconventional relationship...

Posted by FLeo Lives On

Well, I'm a Leo woman and one of my personal mottos is "treat me good and I'll treat you better", so while I have no idea about Leo men, I can relate to the "they treat you better than you treat them" thing.

Totally agree on this! We love to be treated well and will return the behavior two-fold. We can't help it, its in our nature. When someone is treating us well, it makes it so natural and easy for us to return the treatment. Dont know any Leo's that don't.

Well no wonder Libras and Leos will make a very good mix. I've always had this side to me that wants to please and pamper someone...only thing is that its generally taken for granted and I end up feeling used and abused over a period...

Another thing that I noticed is his letters always have like a dozen or more kisses...lol mine only ever have 1 or 3!

I thought you loved us Libras Ike?

Ok so I need to work on pumping up the romance a little huh? So give me some suggestions...you do know that we live in totally different countries and wont see each other til Feb?? Gets harder doesnt it?

The kisses are what I've always stuck to with letters and cards etc...never really thought of it as romance...

Posted by LeoLadyLovesToBeLoved
Totally agree on this! We love to be treated well and will return the behavior two-fold. We can't help it, its in our nature. When someone is treating us well, it makes it so natural and easy for us to return the treatment. Dont know any Leo's that don't.

Intresting you should say this, I said the very same thing in my first post here - I believe it was a love declaration of some sort to the sign of Pisces (surprise, surprise). But anyway, that's very true. Some people get the very best of me while others are simply not worth my time nor energy. To me selfishness is the worst human trait of them all, especially when it comes to love and relationships.

Posted by Ike 2.0
I think that's why a lot of leo guys go for those pisces chicks , damn they really make me think impure thoughts 😛

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I always thought so myself. This should make a good combo since Pisces are totally selfless and Leos give twice as much in return when being groomed and treated well. Not all Leos are this way, but self knowledge and maturity is what distinguishes the men from the boys in this sign.

Posted by cappygolightly
leo and pisces is a disatrous combo.

In my experience, absolutely. Yes, when they are being cared for selflessly and groomed and completely catered to no matter how ridiculous the demands, the Leo men will give back much love to the selfless Pisces gal - and always push for more, push the envelope, toe the line, test how far she's willing to go. But practically the minute she wants more, or something different, or wants to do for herself, he can't handle it and withholds his love and affection, becomes moody and sarcastic, like a wounded lion! With a Leo man, it's My Way Or The Highway - and though Pisces has a reputation for being weak-willed and easily led, most of us have a steel backbone underneath that would surprise you, and stubbornness to match the worst of Taurus or Aries. It's OUR way or the highway, and even when we're giving you your way, trust me - it was OUR idea first. (Though that could be my Venus in Aries talking!) Now, the sex - that's an incredible combination that can send both their heads spinning. But there's more to love than just sex.

Leo men seem to be often drawn to Pisces women, whom they see as ideal givers and lovers. But in the end, there are so many differences in temperament, moods, desires, attitudes, approach -- tragic meltdown waiting to happen. I've dated several Leos, one of them for 5 years. Incompatibility failure, no matter how hard we tried to hold on. Relationships aren't easy, love is hard. But it shouldn't be THAT hard!

Some intresting insight Nefer. But I always say, being aware of your flaws is one step from being flawless. So if the Leos knows about the headache he's bringing into the relationship, surely it will spare everyone some drama in the future. This would mean that this Leo would have to be intrested in astrology in order to better himself, otherwise I guess you'd never be able to convince him that he's the rotten egg.

You say you dated several Leos - stupid question but howcome?

So you Leo's, do you chase and chase until you THINK that you've caught your "PREY" and then play it cool—

Posted by sweethearts
So you Leo's, do you chase and chase until you THINK that you've caught your "PREY" and then play it cool—

There is really no way to answer this question without being too general about things, but as we all know Leos enjoy the chase. When in a long relationship with a Leo you'll have to make him slightly jealous every once in a while, because sometimes he forgets to show that he cares. But this is a Catch-22 since a jealous Leo might just stop caring for real and start looking the other way.

Btw sweethearts, what's your astrological sign? Doesen't say on your profile...

@ ET I'm Libra

I think he's just playing with me, things have cooled down quite a bit, maybe the frustration with the distance. Perhaps it's just too far away to wait (Feb) & he thinks he'll get there anyway. He has stated he wont stop living and I can understand it... but in reality I couldn't live with it.

It's official this leo is crazy he's bought it up again and when he didnt get the answer he wants, he's like oh we cant talk about it like this.(over the net) We'll talk about it when we are together!!!!!

Posted by sweethearts
do you guys stop and think before things like this come out of your mouths—

I can tell you this much - we don't think when we're in love. We give in to our emotions and we react, even though there are times when our feelings play tricks on us. But you say he's been in love with you for the most part of his life, so I think he means it. I can't even begin to tell you what's going through my mind when I'm in love, it's simply to embarrasing to speak of in a sober state.

I think he thought he loved me back then but he's lived alot of life in between... you cant turn back time and you have to realise that too old to have more kids is too old!! Not for you guys but us ladies we go through a whole lot more that you could never even imagine...

I've told him No twice, I get the feeling he thinks when we see each other again, he will sway me BUT it's a definite NO...pity, it was looking pretty good there...very fairy tale like in fact!! But I'm gona love him and then set him free...

You're a big softy ET...what happened with that girl you had your eye on?

Makes no sense why he's so pushy about spreading his genes through you. I mean if he loves you he should be able to enjoy just being with you. Does he have any kids of his own?

Posted by sweethearts
You're a big softy ET...what happened with that girl you had your eye on?

Yeah I'm a contradition even to myself. I'm soft and sensitive, yet I have a short fuse. About the girl... Still very much in love with her, but trying not to think about it...or her. Too many moral obstacles for now. I figured I could always return in 14 years and say I want to have kids with her. Think that'll work? 😉

He has one which is his regret and years ago I told him exactly that, he wouldn't acknowledge him at first but that was finally mended when he came to his senses and they have a great relationship now. His boy even worked with him on one of the boats a few years back but returned home. Sooo he has expressed that he really wants more and when I have said NO and that he will need to find someone more suitable he comes back with wellI'm not really sure so I guess ultimately he will have to make a choice and I will have to know and be ready to walk away...still the fairy tale just a tragic one maybe...

About this girl, I truely do not understand your hesitation here. i know you've said someone close to you both, could get hurt but ET you've met her now for a reason I dont believe in waiting. What are you waiting for exactly, someone else to teach her everything—That doesnt make sense when you would be the perfect person to care and love her completely and you have the respect to do it, you are the only type of person that has the right to be with someone innocent because of your moral standings and the fact that you are honorable and prepared to wait for her however long it takes. And you are thinking lifetime not goodtime which alot of guys out there will.

She has been bought to you now...maybe it's your destiny like with my friend and I... I wouldn't hesitate, so ask her out already 🙂

Ike the last person I'd get with is a Libra!!! I've been with one and not keen on going there again!

When there is a special connection with someone it's hard not to at least give it a try...My mother use to have all these weird and wonderful sayings, one of them was...

It's better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all...and I think this would be fitting for my situation.

Posted by sweethearts
About this girl, I truely do not understand your hesitation here. i know you've said someone close to you both, could get hurt but ET you've met her now for a reason I dont believe in waiting. What are you waiting for exactly, someone else to teach her everything—That doesnt make sense when you would be the perfect person to care and love her completely and you have the respect to do it, you are the only type of person that has the right to be with someone innocent because of your moral standings and the fact that you are honorable and prepared to wait for her however long it takes. And you are thinking lifetime not goodtime which alot of guys out there will.

She has been bought to you now...maybe it's your destiny like with my friend and I... I wouldn't hesitate, so ask her out already 🙂

I promised myself not to display too many personal details here, but what it's really about is that the girl that might get hurt - who's a friend of my Pisces - is actually someone I've been dating on and off for a while now. We've got so much in common, I do love her, as I don't want her out of my life, but I don't feel I'm IN LOVE with her. And if I proceed with this newfound love intrest of mine I risk loosing them both. Plain and simple.

I know that this Pisces reacts positively at the looks and attention I give her, but God knows what's in her mind. Does she like me because I'm nice to her or does she feel about me the same way I feel about her? Maybe she even subconsciously wants me to make a move - to hell with everyone else! I don't know.

I don't like too much drama in my life. My hesitations are based on the knowledge that this story has no happy ending. If you can think of one please let me know. I'm madly in love with this Pisces while at the same time I don't want to loose this other girl. Correction - I don't want to hurt her feelings. She loves me, and the way she loves I know the wound woulds forever be there.

Sorry for stealing your thread, but you asked =)

Ok yeah thats a little sticky...shouldn't ask a Libra cos in that sort of situation I'd let the pisces know that I was interested and see if she felt the same first. Once I had a definite answer I'd work out a way to let the other down as gently as possible...

Of course mum had a saying for that too.....

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush! lol

But I'd still do things my way and risk it all for love! Honestly I dont believe in sacrifices anymore when you want someone...life is too short to muck around because you dont want to hurt someone elses feelings...I waited for the right time to introduce someone very special into my life...didnt want to hurt the kids as it felt too soon for them...my friend, my sweetheart died of cancer and we wasted some years because we didnt want to hurt people. Wasn't worth it!

Those are my exact thoughts! I'm sorry about your friend, but I have considered that scenario from a different angle: what if I left that someone who loved me for someone else, and that someone who loved me dies and dies brokenhearted because of me. I don't know if I could live with myself. Shouldn't making someone who loves you happy also make you happy? I hear people saying MY HAPPINESS FIRST, and that's a sound attitude to life, but I don't know if I can be fully happy by hurting the people that love me. Your approcah to this is pretty much how anyone else would approach it, so what's wrong with me? There must be some serious balance issues between the signs in my chart. Anyway I'm not unhappy with the girl I'm with now, but the passion I feel for that Pisces and the fact that I'm not with her is what on the other hand makes me unhappy. But passion doesen't sustain, love and mutual respect does. And that's what I got with the girl I'm with now. There are so many angles and unfortunately I'm one of those people who has to go through every one of them.

Btw, what is it that you like about this Leo guy exactly? I'm not sure you've explained that, apart from being put on a pedistal 😉

I understand that, And I respect your choice. But at the end of the day you will end up leaving her by the sounds of things and unfortunetly she will get hurt. Theres no way to leave someone that still loves you and not hurt them whether it be for the pisces or not. I do know that, as that was the end of my marriage...and I stayed for nearly a year trying to make it all right and in the end I had to just be cruel to be kind and cut him off! It wasn't terribly messy & it was a one sided split (& he was hurt and struggled to understand and I couldn't give him answers because he didnt want to hear what I was saying) Now though we are good friends, I gave respect when he needed it and he in return, we can still sit and have family dinners and also share a glass of wine to discuss anything that comes up. And ultimately it feels good as I see that we didnt lose our love(friendship) but just fell out of love...if that makes sense...

That being the case with you and the pisces, if she knows you are with someone else and it's her friend...that will be why you dont know how she feels. In that situation, I'm not going to let on either unless the subject comes up from the other person involved. i'd just dream and fantasize about them until someone else came into my life to take those thoughts away.


Mmmm, the leo 🙂 you know how you have a bucket list...after all my heartache when my sweetheart died & things had settled, another friend and I who lost his wife always talked about our list if we were to ever find a new partner. Geez those lists were almost unattainable, I can tell you and we laughed alot about it because we both knew how not many would measure up & so we'd be alone for the rest of our lives...I was happy with that, it didnt really bother me, I have my friends and family and really I'm content with being on my own.

Then along came this leo & he ticks sooo many of those boxes it blows me away and what's more is that we have this solid friendship/comfort with each other because of our history...very much like how I felt with my sweetheart. It has huge possibilities on paper...but in reality I know will be something quite different as there are so many obstacles. Like you, I feel it's happened at the wrong time and it should be in another 15 years, with us, we could sit in our rockers together! Haha, I guess I wont be that old but we could have the last of our lives enjoying each other :

Posted by sweethearts
And ultimately it feels good as I see that we didnt lose our love(friendship) but just fell out of love...if that makes sense...

It makes perfect sense because that's what's happened here. I don't want to loose her, I just want her under other conditions. Make a new contract, sort of. But everything you say puts everything in a new perspective. Altough I've been thinking in those terms one really needs someone else to say it in order to see it clearly.

Any-whoo, you have a Leo that checks most of the boxes and on top of all you go a long way back. It sounds as if it couldn't go wrong, you just need to put your differences aside.

Now you are sounding just like him!!! Must be the leo thing! lol

When the difference is he wants kids and I say I definitely dont want anymore that's not something I can take from him...We'll meet and have the time of our lives but I'll cut him there...I wont change my mind in the children department and I couldn't take that dream from anyone.

You go for it with yours...lifes too short. Just figure it out in your head first and make it happen 🙂