Can you Leo's please give this ram a hand please?

UPDATED WITH FULL NATAL CHART INFO:

Link to Chart: http://m.imgur.com/dvg9G3l

I finally figured out her chart in my previous posts I got it wrong a bit...

I just uploaded a picture of both our charts for this forum, it's in the background but I'll post it up in on my profile as well...



So here is the case good folks!



We broke up due to her not being faithful and keeping her ex around but I'm willing to go to therapy with her and rebuild what we had but first I'd like to know about her Mars inGemini because of heard they tend to have a lot of affairs... but I heard mars and Venus means opposite for men and women.



There was a time when she wanted to get married and have children and all that with me. I'm in areas it's hard for us to settle down with someone if it's going to be settling down she's got to be the one and this lioness this is the one for me..

Which is why I'm here on dxp trying to figure some stuff out and what to watch out for ect.



Her chart is:

- Leo sun/Capricorn moon

- Mercury in Virgo

- Venus in Virgo/Mars in Gemini

- Jupiter in Aries

- Saturn in Cancer

- Uranus in Libra

- Neptune in Saggitarius

- Pluto in Libra

- True Node in Scorpio

- Ascendant Taurus

- Midheaven Aquarius



My Chart is:

- Aries Sun/Aries Moon,

- Mercury in Taurus

- Venus in Gemini/Mars in Aries

- Jupiter in Capricorn

- Saturn in Aries

- Uranus in Aquarius

- Neptune in Capricorn

- Pluto in Saggitarius

- True Node libra

- ascendant Cancer

- Midheaven Aries

She said she wants to move forward I said OK we will move forward but I'll need to trust you again and that's gonna take a while... it was very hard for me to say yes let's give it another chance because she was cheating behind my back for 10 minutes straight. This was over 18 months ago so for this eight months we've been good so far...

We will be going to therapy and counseling starting next month but before I do that I'll need to get all the details from you folks... please

Help me thank you!



P.S. When we reconciled, she said she wants us to move forward we've spoken many many times and she wants us to move forward

she wants to have children with me she wants me to be a father to her daughter which has autism and I really love that little one like my own.

- she took care of me

- bought me my car (a Yukon XL)

- put food in my stomach

- sacrificed so much for me



For all of you who's wondering why I'm with her it's because she is the one! My heart beats for her.



Please help folks

If she or anyone cheats.........walk away.

You ain't the one

Any update Mark?

Posted by wagtail
Any update Mark?

Things are going well and smooth, she is very emotional as of now cries a lot when I say wonderful things to her about how much I love her... as if she wanted that from the beginning.

But she never really communicates love verbally... like I mean she just says I love you or I love you more than anything

Maybe I'm asking for too much... or I'm maybe insecure

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by wagtail
Any update Mark?

Things are going well and smooth, she is very emotional as of now cries a lot when I say wonderful things to her about how much I love her... as if she wanted that from the beginning.

But she never really communicates love verbally... like I mean she just says I love you or I love you more than anything

Maybe I'm asking for too much... or I'm maybe insecure

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Talk is cheap.

She isn't acting like a Leo in Love in my honest opinion, but you can only persevere at this stage- it's up to you whether you're happy with the crumbs, or do you want something GUARANTEED and free of drama...

Good luck regardless, I sincerely hope things work out for both of you 🤗

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Posted by Mark-23

Posted by wagtail
Any update Mark?

Things are going well and smooth, she is very emotional as of now cries a lot when I say wonderful things to her about how much I love her... as if she wanted that from the beginning.

But she never really communicates love verbally... like I mean she just says I love you or I love you more than anything

Maybe I'm asking for too much... or I'm maybe insecure

Talk is cheap.

She isn't acting like a Leo in Love in my honest opinion, but you can only persevere at this stage- it's up to you whether you're happy with the crumbs, or do you want something GUARANTEED and free of drama...

Good luck regardless, I sincerely hope things work out for both of you 🤗

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I hope you can give me info of a Leo in love but she is also going through a lot at the moment

I do think she really likes you but maybe she isn't sure where she stands with you. Maybe try adoring but you should mean it. Otherwords, its only her and no one else. She will lovr you for it. Don't be fake to leos. They will know. All the best?

How exactly did she cheat tho...

Posted by sncbleo
I do think she really likes you but maybe she isn't sure where she stands with you. Maybe try adoring but you should mean it. Otherwords, its only her and no one else. She will lovr you for it. Don't be fake to leos. They will know. All the best?

Couldn't have said it any better...

Posted by wagtail
How exactly did she cheat tho...

Talking and sleeping behind my back with her saggitarius ex boyfriend

Posted by wagtail
How exactly did she cheat tho...

I started to become insecure and that lead to me being controlling and then the verbal abuse came then physical abuse too... next thing you know I catch her with her ex boyfriend.

The reason I was becoming insecure was because she was still friends with her ex boyfriend and that pissed me off.. I mean I ditched all the women in the world to be with her couldn't she atleast get rid of that piece of shit?!

Counseling BEFORE the wedding isn't a good

sign... neither is abuse.



Aries and LEO imo, when both are strong

personalities, are not a good combination.



Let her go before you both die of entitlement.

Posted by Montgomery
Counseling BEFORE the wedding isn't a good

sign... neither is abuse.



Aries and LEO imo, when both are strong

personalities, are not a good combination.



Let her go before you both die of entitlement.

Hold on hold on!

Our personalities are compatible as she and I do get along great which is why I'm fighting for my marriage.

Couseling not good before marriage— Who said that? If both parties wanna actually meaningfully want to fix an issue then couseling will work!

Infact the reason people fail in counseling is because sometimes it's too late!



I'm the entitled one not her.. she's very loving and caring and giving

If she loves you she wouldn't cheated on you in the first place let her go don't know why you holding to someone who treats you like crap.

I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

you complain about her mars in Gemini?

dude, i think she just isn't into you that way romantically. You don't fulfill her.

you may get along GREAT that is friendship, and platonic love, which is great and awesome...

but it sounds like, sadly you do NOT fulfill her.

Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

oh god that is scary.

she should run. run far away...

probably being with another man to get away.

Oh boy my sag cousins got mars in Gemini they cheat a lot damn lol let that girl go her

Yep afflicted Moons in a man's natal charts are the worst since the Moon represents women. I read a lot of mess up crap lol. These men are known to stay in relationships with selfish women, They are very sensitive and once you hurt there feelings ... dead. That's why Mr. Aries should just leave her be and fine some one else.

Posted by WiseOwl
Yep afflicted Moons in a man's natal charts are the worst since the Moon represents women. I read a lot of mess up crap lol. These men are known to stay in relationships with selfish women, They are very sensitive and once you hurt there feelings ... dead. That's why Mr. Aries should just leave her be and fine some one else.

that's terrible.

incompatible.

these types of men choose women that are too different from them.

and she was probably liking him because he is a nice guy and good friend, even GREAT friend,

but in the romance/love department. terrible. if he is too insecure and she isnt', its disaster.

Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

Please don't make that assumption...

I never even thought of that kinda horrifying shit I'm just here to get advice folks

Posted by lisabethur8
you complain about her mars in Gemini?

dude, i think she just isn't into you that way romantically. You don't fulfill her.

you may get along GREAT that is friendship, and platonic love, which is great and awesome...

but it sounds like, sadly you do NOT fulfill her.

No I'm not complaining about her mars in gemini... I'm here trying to figure out solutions to move forward aside from the therapy we are going to do.



She says she loves me more than anything and that she never loved anyone so deep like she loved me and she really wants to have a family and children with me.. she has a little girl about 7 who's special needs and I treat her like my own. I'm always there for her and ect

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

oh god that is scary.

she should run. run far away...

probably being with another man to get away.

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Cmon please if you guys are gonna spew negativity then please don't even comment at all... I wanna keep this thread clean and I need advice not to be belittled and by the way I admitted my mistakes and i went to therapy to change myself and I'm still working on myself

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

oh god that is scary.

she should run. run far away...

probably being with another man to get away.

Cmon please if you guys are gonna spew negativity then please don't even comment at all... I wanna keep this thread clean and I need advice not to be belittled and by the way I admitted my mistakes and i went to therapy to change myself and I'm still working on myself

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sigh.

if no negativity,

what do you want to hear??

how to get her back?

😕

Posted by Aurora8Luna

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by wagtail
How exactly did she cheat tho...

I started to become insecure and that lead to me being controlling and then the verbal abuse came then physical abuse too... next thing you know I catch her with her ex boyfriend.

The reason I was becoming insecure was because she was still friends with her ex boyfriend and that pissed me off.. I mean I ditched all the women in the world to be with her couldn't she atleast get rid of that piece of shit?!

Look at your own actions, you say you treat her so well and then say you verbally and physically abused her. Leave the woman alone. You aren't innocent in this either. If you didn't like who she was friends with you should have left. Work on your insecurities instead of abusing women you claim to love.

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Okay we've been together for 2 years... the do year everything was smooth and there was no problem let me in I treated her very well and she treated me very well...

Then I found out that she was still talking to her ex-boyfriend and she was still talking to his family now she was with him for four years, he didn't even put a ring on her hand and I did I wanted to have the family in the life that she wanted to have he didn't and she knows that



Fast-forward I started getting really insecure because she was still talking to him and I thought that was violating the borders of our relationship.

And the more insecure i got the more controlling

I got... next thing you know I'm verbally abusing her and then it got physical like twice but here's the thing I never denied what I did admit my mistakes



She wants us to move forward she wants to forget the past I do too but my trust has been broken and I'm trying to regain the trust



I'm not trying to judge her here I'm trying to figure out how as an Aries man, how I can be closer to her how I can reserve and pleasure because I want to worship the ground she walks on



Listen folks please help me out and what I asked to be helped With!

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

oh god that is scary.

she should run. run far away...

probably being with another man to get away.

Cmon please if you guys are gonna spew negativity then please don't even comment at all... I wanna keep this thread clean and I need advice not to be belittled and by the way I admitted my mistakes and i went to therapy to change myself and I'm still working on myself

sigh.

if no negativity,

what do you want to hear??

how to get her back?

😕

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She's back in my life you know we still see each other we still talk to each other but not like before back then she used to tell me about her childhood she had a very abusive childhood your father was never there she was raped and molested in church



I never blamed her for cheating on me and whatever happened between us and never blamed her that's why I didn't mention it in the beginning until people started asking what was the problem

Simply want to know how I can love her please her and I don't know since she's a mars in Gemini how can I make her be faithful to me not maker but you know ...



People say it mars in Gemini is not faithful but when I talk to people that are more is in Gemini they said different things

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Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

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Instead of posting gifs please give me advice on how to get closer to my Lioness... she is my queen

All in all, everyone that's offering me advice and those who will offer me advice on how to make sure my Lioness is happy according to her natal chart, which is why I even posted it...

Thank you very very much. It really means lot to me... for those who can't offer me advice then please go make another thread and bash me all you want... but don't ruin something I'm

Trying to fix! Thanks folks!!

Posted by Mark-23
All in all, everyone that's offering me advice and those who will offer me advice on how to make sure my Lioness is happy according to her natal chart, which is why I even posted it...

Thank you very very much. It really means lot to me... for those who can't offer me advice then please go make another thread and bash me all you want... but don't ruin something I'm

Trying to fix! Thanks folks!!

@Mark-23

Nah!, ain't nobody bashing you. You're just mad because, it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

So, don't worry buddy. She's happy, just not with you. She's going to cheat because, that's what cheaters do so if I were you (thank god not) I will take the advice that was offered. What you mean your Lioness? She already approve to you she ain't yours I mean anytime have to put your hands on her to keep her from cheating on you. (Taurus in Mercury) possessive much?? According to the Lioness natal chart (Mercury /Venus in Virgo,Mars in Capricorn) you ain't what's she's looking for. She wants to feel mental connection with someone. Something your (Sun/Moon/Mars in Aries) don't understand. So, there's nothing to fix if the girl ain't yours. Peace

Posted by WiseOwl

Posted by Mark-23
All in all, everyone that's offering me advice and those who will offer me advice on how to make sure my Lioness is happy according to her natal chart, which is why I even posted it...

Thank you very very much. It really means lot to me... for those who can't offer me advice then please go make another thread and bash me all you want... but don't ruin something I'm

Trying to fix! Thanks folks!!

@Mark-23

Nah!, ain't nobody bashing you. You're just mad because, it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

So, don't worry buddy. She's happy, just not with you. She's going to cheat because, that's what cheaters do so if I were you (thank god not) I will take the advice that was offered. What you mean your Lioness? She already approve to you she ain't yours I mean anytime have to put your hands on her to keep her from cheating on you. (Taurus in Mercury) possessive much?? According to the Lioness natal chart (Mercury /Venus in Virgo,Mars in Capricorn) you ain't what's she's looking for. She wants to feel mental connection with someone. Something your (Sun/Moon/Mars in Aries) don't understand. So, there's nothing to fix if the girl ain't yours. Peace

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im confused.i thought he said she was mars in Gemini. lol

well obviously with all her earth,

she wants someone LESS him.

OP, don't push yourself to be with this woman.

why you want someone who don't want you??

😕

I'm going to answer this without judging u considering u put your hands on your wife which obviously is a huge no no... You seem to be sorry & truly want to work things out through counseling...Going by both of your natal charts, her cheating, your abuse towards her & what has happened to her during her childhood- she will cheat again in some way shape or form. There's no relationship with no trust .. Just love can't hold a relationship together IMO.. I'm sure u both love each other in your own ways but I don't think u guys have much of a future. Either way - good luck with counseling

Posted by WiseOwl

Posted by Mark-23
All in all, everyone that's offering me advice and those who will offer me advice on how to make sure my Lioness is happy according to her natal chart, which is why I even posted it...

Thank you very very much. It really means lot to me... for those who can't offer me advice then please go make another thread and bash me all you want... but don't ruin something I'm

Trying to fix! Thanks folks!!

@Mark-23

Nah!, ain't nobody bashing you. You're just mad because, it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

So, don't worry buddy. She's happy, just not with you. She's going to cheat because, that's what cheaters do so if I were you (thank god not) I will take the advice that was offered. What you mean your Lioness? She already approve to you she ain't yours I mean anytime have to put your hands on her to keep her from cheating on you. (Taurus in Mercury) possessive much?? According to the Lioness natal chart (Mercury /Venus in Virgo,Mars in Capricorn) you ain't what's she's looking for. She wants to feel mental connection with someone. Something your (Sun/Moon/Mars in Aries) don't understand. So, there's nothing to fix if the girl ain't yours. Peace

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I'm pretty sure there something I could do if you figured out that she needs to feel a mental connection!

teach me how to Connect with her mentally teach me the ways of the force people !!!

Posted by SofiaV87
I'm going to answer this without judging u considering u put your hands on your wife which obviously is a huge no no... You seem to be sorry & truly want to work things out through counseling...Going by both of your natal charts, her cheating, your abuse towards her & what has happened to her during her childhood- she will cheat again in some way shape or form. There's no relationship with no trust .. Just love can't hold a relationship together IMO.. I'm sure u both love each other in your own ways but I don't think u guys have much of a future. Either way - good luck with counseling

Then please teach me and educate me and give me advice on how to make this marriage work



She wants to fix it just as much as I want to fix it.



She cries and weeps every night when I speak of our marriage I menan she really wanta that and I really want that too

Posted by Ssuperman
If she or anyone cheats.........walk away.

You ain't the one

THANK YOU

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by SofiaV87
I'm going to answer this without judging u considering u put your hands on your wife which obviously is a huge no no... You seem to be sorry & truly want to work things out through counseling...Going by both of your natal charts, her cheating, your abuse towards her & what has happened to her during her childhood- she will cheat again in some way shape or form. There's no relationship with no trust .. Just love can't hold a relationship together IMO.. I'm sure u both love each other in your own ways but I don't think u guys have much of a future. Either way - good luck with counseling

Then please teach me and educate me and give me advice on how to make this marriage work



She wants to fix it just as much as I want to fix it.



She cries and weeps every night when I speak of our marriage I menan she really wanta that and I really want that too

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Awww..well, you guys could arrange to have more talks about more topics that have to do with having a healthy relationship.

Trust- "Hey , sweetie? Let's just talk about how we can build our trust again."

"Instead of mouthing off to each other when we're upset, let's start writing each other letters whenever we feel wronged." And communicate.

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Posted by Mark-23

Posted by SofiaV87
I'm going to answer this without judging u considering u put your hands on your wife which obviously is a huge no no... You seem to be sorry & truly want to work things out through counseling...Going by both of your natal charts, her cheating, your abuse towards her & what has happened to her during her childhood- she will cheat again in some way shape or form. There's no relationship with no trust .. Just love can't hold a relationship together IMO.. I'm sure u both love each other in your own ways but I don't think u guys have much of a future. Either way - good luck with counseling

Then please teach me and educate me and give me advice on how to make this marriage work



She wants to fix it just as much as I want to fix it.



She cries and weeps every night when I speak of our marriage I menan she really wanta that and I really want that too

Awww..well, you guys could arrange to have more talks about more topics that have to do with having a healthy relationship.

Trust- "Hey , sweetie? Let's just talk about how we can build our trust again."

"Instead of mouthing off to each other when we're upset, let's start writing each other letters whenever we feel wronged." And communicate.

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They got that here? I really need relationship advise

dude, are you PMing us ladies here? don't.

I don't appreciate it.

and you can't even seem to get the point that she doesn't want you.

but you are manipulating her and strong arming her into being with you. If I were her, i'd call the police and get a restraining order. You always want (to hear ) nice things when you didn't even do nice things to her as simple as NOT laying a hand on her, or bullying her ect. Instead you make her cry, when in reality she is crying because she wants out.

Posted by SalamanderCandy

Posted by Ssuperman
If she or anyone cheats.........walk away.

You ain't the one

THANK YOU

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it doesn't get through his thick skull. that's why the police needs to be involved.

Posted by Nevermore
Cheating is a choice and never coming from astrology. If you think and want to blame on the placement sign like mars in gemini for example.. that's based by your insecurity for believing that to ease your fragile ego.

If your trust is broken and become more insecure, why stay? Why would you want to be together while your trust is broken?

Why do I want to stay if my trust is broken?

Because I love her and I'm trying to fight it through for the both of us...

Posted by lisabethur8
dude, are you PMing us ladies here? don't.

I don't appreciate it.

and you can't even seem to get the point that she doesn't want you.

but you are manipulating her and strong arming her into being with you. If I were her, i'd call the police and get a restraining order. You always want (to hear ) nice things when you didn't even do nice things to her as simple as NOT laying a hand on her, or bullying her ect. Instead you make her cry, when in reality she is crying because she wants out.

Now a days she cries because she wanted the marriage and kids...



No my abuse lasted a short term and I went to therapy as soon as we broke up...

We both want to get back together but she messed up with my trust

Posted by SofiaV87
I'm going to answer this without judging u considering u put your hands on your wife which obviously is a huge no no... You seem to be sorry & truly want to work things out through counseling...Going by both of your natal charts, her cheating, your abuse towards her & what has happened to her during her childhood- she will cheat again in some way shape or form. There's no relationship with no trust .. Just love can't hold a relationship together IMO.. I'm sure u both love each other in your own ways but I don't think u guys have much of a future. Either way - good luck with counseling

I've had a very friendly person not gonna name them offer me advice they said try taking her to a hypnotherapist because of her past experiences and what she went through with me..

I never really antagonized her all I asked for was advice on how to be the right guy from my point of view towards replacements

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by SalamanderCandy

Posted by Ssuperman
If she or anyone cheats.........walk away.

You ain't the one

THANK YOU

it doesn't get through his thick skull. that's why the police needs to be involved.

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We aren't even together at the moment and you're just starting to bash me I don't appreciate it

As far as I know we are both trying to reconcile and she wants us to move forward but I said I need time because my trust is at an all-time low

God DXP users go south so quickly

Posted by Nevermore
Cheating is a choice and never coming from astrology. If you think and want to blame on the placement sign like mars in gemini for example.. that's based by your insecurity for believing that to ease your fragile ego.

If your trust is broken and become more insecure, why stay? Why would you want to be together while your trust is broken?

She also claims that she never slept with her ex-boyfriend and I mean this is a is a complete you know shit storm



I don't lie I don't hide my mistake yes I have a very insecure and ego and I'm very very insecure but that doesn't make me a bad person

Posted by Nevermore
beside, I would be leaving you if you put your hands on me and getting verbal abusive.

I'm sure you would leave

But lemme ask you this would you be Sexting your ex-boyfriend would you be ditching your boyfriend on weekends and even weekdays ?

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Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

Those rushed assumptions are absolutely retarded. You can't even know for sure if they're actually conjunct. He never mentioned the degrees. What if the sun is conjunct mars at 3 degrees of aries and the moon is anywhere from 13 to 28 degrees of Aries? In this way both the sun and mars will be twice more exalted than normal, while the moon is intact.

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You want me to post the degrees too? I'll do so as soon as possible

Posted by clay
What the fuck is wrong with people in this thread?

I don't know I come here to ask for device...

And instead I get bashed for my mistakes I think in every message I wrote that we both want to move forward so I just don't get it



I can get information about her natal chart etc.

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Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

What serial killers have that combo in their chart?

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I think it was quite disrespectful and it sounds like a buncha hocus pokus... so please let's leave that behind or I'll just tag that comment

I can't get advice not be bashed

Posted by clay

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by SalamanderCandy

Posted by Ssuperman
If she or anyone cheats.........walk away.

You ain't the one

THANK YOU

it doesn't get through his thick skull. that's why the police needs to be involved.

what the fuck

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The amount of hate bashing and disrespect is off the charts here

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Nevermore
Cheating is a choice and never coming from astrology. If you think and want to blame on the placement sign like mars in gemini for example.. that's based by your insecurity for believing that to ease your fragile ego.

If your trust is broken and become more insecure, why stay? Why would you want to be together while your trust is broken?

She also claims that she never slept with her ex-boyfriend and I mean this is a is a complete you know shit storm



I don't lie I don't hide my mistake yes I have a very insecure and ego and I'm very very insecure but that doesn't make me a bad person

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Speaking from experience, cheaters will ALWAYS down play their cheating to make it seem like it wasn't that bad. If you want to move forward, you have to accept that there are some things she just won't tell you.

@Mark-23

Sorry buddy she's lying don't fall for it you're only putting yourself up for disappointment just let her go I know you don't like the idea of being single but once you drop her you'll realize there's someone out there that's wants the same thing you're looking for. Keep trying you'll find her. This girl has no respect for you. She is not the one.