Can you Leo's please give this ram a hand please? (Page 2)

Posted by mzmee

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Nevermore
Cheating is a choice and never coming from astrology. If you think and want to blame on the placement sign like mars in gemini for example.. that's based by your insecurity for believing that to ease your fragile ego.

If your trust is broken and become more insecure, why stay? Why would you want to be together while your trust is broken?

She also claims that she never slept with her ex-boyfriend and I mean this is a is a complete you know shit storm



I don't lie I don't hide my mistake yes I have a very insecure and ego and I'm very very insecure but that doesn't make me a bad person

Speaking from experience, cheaters will ALWAYS down play their cheating to make it seem like it wasn't that bad. If you want to move forward, you have to accept that there are some things she just won't tell you.

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Infact even before we go to therapy she knows I'm gonna have her take a polygraph test...

It feel like now that I caught her and I was done... she wants me back and my poor ass in love don't have the spine to move forward simply because I feel like I can't someone better than her

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by mzmee

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Nevermore
Cheating is a choice and never coming from astrology. If you think and want to blame on the placement sign like mars in gemini for example.. that's based by your insecurity for believing that to ease your fragile ego.

If your trust is broken and become more insecure, why stay? Why would you want to be together while your trust is broken?

She also claims that she never slept with her ex-boyfriend and I mean this is a is a complete you know shit storm



I don't lie I don't hide my mistake yes I have a very insecure and ego and I'm very very insecure but that doesn't make me a bad person

Speaking from experience, cheaters will ALWAYS down play their cheating to make it seem like it wasn't that bad. If you want to move forward, you have to accept that there are some things she just won't tell you.

Infact even before we go to therapy she knows I'm gonna have her take a polygraph test...

It feel like now that I caught her and I was done... she wants me back and my poor ass in love don't have the spine to move forward simply because I feel like I can't someone better than her

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Are you sure you want those answers? Sometimes the truth is more painful.

This whole entire thread is a waste of time. Everybody is tried of telling the same thing over and over again because it's not what to want to hear. You act just like my brother that's why women keep using him. That same stupid combo is in his chart just all in Capricorn.

Posted by WiseOwl
@Mark-23

Sorry buddy she's lying don't fall for it you're only putting yourself up for disappointment just let her go I know you don't like the idea of being single but once you drop her you'll realize there's someone out there that's wants the same thing you're looking for. Keep trying you'll find her. This girl has no respect for you. She is not the one.

I actually did drop her and I mean I cut off all contact with her..

She wants to get back together after all that happened. I finished my therapy for anger management and insecurities and she said she wanted to move forward...

I said your gonna have to jump through alotta hoop to prove yourself again to me, but I want those children we wanted and I want the home I wanted to get for us both.. she was weeping like a little girl.. my heart melted. We still talk everyday and night and see each other here and there but it will be a while and I need to make sure I can trust her again before we move in together and get married

Posted by mzmee

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by mzmee

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Nevermore
Cheating is a choice and never coming from astrology. If you think and want to blame on the placement sign like mars in gemini for example.. that's based by your insecurity for believing that to ease your fragile ego.

If your trust is broken and become more insecure, why stay? Why would you want to be together while your trust is broken?

She also claims that she never slept with her ex-boyfriend and I mean this is a is a complete you know shit storm



I don't lie I don't hide my mistake yes I have a very insecure and ego and I'm very very insecure but that doesn't make me a bad person

Speaking from experience, cheaters will ALWAYS down play their cheating to make it seem like it wasn't that bad. If you want to move forward, you have to accept that there are some things she just won't tell you.

Infact even before we go to therapy she knows I'm gonna have her take a polygraph test...

It feel like now that I caught her and I was done... she wants me back and my poor ass in love don't have the spine to move forward simply because I feel like I can't someone better than her

Are you sure you want those answers? Sometimes the truth is more painful.

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The truth is more painful than reality that's why we

Humans like to dream... aka the American dream ?

Posted by WiseOwl
This whole entire thread is a waste of time. Everybody is tried of telling the same thing over and over again because it's not what to want to hear. You act just like my brother that's why women keep using him. That same stupid combo is in his chart just all in Capricorn.

I'm gonna be closing this thread soon and I'll be back in a few weeks I'll let you all know what happened and how it's been going 🙂

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by mzmee

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by mzmee

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Nevermore
Cheating is a choice and never coming from astrology. If you think and want to blame on the placement sign like mars in gemini for example.. that's based by your insecurity for believing that to ease your fragile ego.

If your trust is broken and become more insecure, why stay? Why would you want to be together while your trust is broken?

She also claims that she never slept with her ex-boyfriend and I mean this is a is a complete you know shit storm



I don't lie I don't hide my mistake yes I have a very insecure and ego and I'm very very insecure but that doesn't make me a bad person

Speaking from experience, cheaters will ALWAYS down play their cheating to make it seem like it wasn't that bad. If you want to move forward, you have to accept that there are some things she just won't tell you.

Infact even before we go to therapy she knows I'm gonna have her take a polygraph test...

It feel like now that I caught her and I was done... she wants me back and my poor ass in love don't have the spine to move forward simply because I feel like I can't someone better than her

Are you sure you want those answers? Sometimes the truth is more painful.

The truth is more painful than reality that's why we

Humans like to dream... aka the American dream ?

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The truth is reality...

Why put her and yourself thru it tho?

Posted by Explicit
Mark, how are you so delusional? We "Mark's" have a reputation for being smart! *giggles*

If a Leo wants you back, they will TAKE you back. I know this about them 110% . She is not crying because she wants a marriage and babies with you, she is crying because she feels guilty that you still love her so much and accept her but her heart isn't in it.

That's what makes me think not twice but 3 times over and over this shit

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Posted by Mark-23

Posted by mzmee

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Nevermore
Cheating is a choice and never coming from astrology. If you think and want to blame on the placement sign like mars in gemini for example.. that's based by your insecurity for believing that to ease your fragile ego.

If your trust is broken and become more insecure, why stay? Why would you want to be together while your trust is broken?

She also claims that she never slept with her ex-boyfriend and I mean this is a is a complete you know shit storm



I don't lie I don't hide my mistake yes I have a very insecure and ego and I'm very very insecure but that doesn't make me a bad person

Speaking from experience, cheaters will ALWAYS down play their cheating to make it seem like it wasn't that bad. If you want to move forward, you have to accept that there are some things she just won't tell you.

Infact even before we go to therapy she knows I'm gonna have her take a polygraph test...

It feel like now that I caught her and I was done... she wants me back and my poor ass in love don't have the spine to move forward simply because I feel like I can't someone better than her

A polygraph test.... so you're planning to put her through a psychologically abusive experience too. There's no reasoning with this situation. Good luck.

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If she wants to prove to me she didn't cheat

Then the polygraph test and if she fails... I'm leaving for good!

Listen up folks! You guys just talk inbetwen yourselves and gossip about my poor dumb ass in love with someone apparently who doesn't wanna be with me...

I'm gonna go forth with what I said and I'll let you folks know how it's gonna be in a few weeks! Fair well and pray for me! Thank you all so much for your support!!

Your physical abuse > her cheating afterward

Posted by Explicit
Mark, how are you so delusional? We "Mark's" have a reputation for being smart! *giggles*

If a Leo wants you back, they will TAKE you back. I know this about them 110% . She is not crying because she wants a marriage and babies with you, she is crying because she feels guilty that you still love her so much and accept her but her heart isn't in it.

I am smart bro.. I'm finishing my BA in mechanical engineering and I am working on my defense corporation for the military and armed forces.

I have companies I wanna invest in and my knowledge is off the charts....



But once I fell in love I became a dumb ass. A total fucking dumb ass

Posted by Montgomery
Your physical abuse > her cheating afterward

Ok before the abuse she was talking to her ex boyfriend which I hated utmost because we were gonna get married within a few months

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Montgomery
Your physical abuse > her cheating afterward

Ok before the abuse she was talking to her ex boyfriend which I hated utmost because we were gonna get married within a few months

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So?

Posted by Montgomery
Your physical abuse > her cheating afterward

But I think she cheated simply due to the abuse... I know once we broke up and we became friends again she opened up to me and told me how the emotional and verbal abuse was worse than the physical abuse because those words stuck in her heart and they were the words of a man she loved more than anything....

Now I'm crying fuck me fuck my piece of shit Aries ass ....



She was there for me when I had no one. I got in a motorcycle accident and she bought me my car, an SUV because I like big cars. Till this day she pays for my insurance.

She fed me and warmed me up at night... I mean she was the world to me and she sacrificed a lot.



That's why I do believe her when she says she wants to move forward.

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Montgomery
Your physical abuse > her cheating afterward

Ok before the abuse she was talking to her ex boyfriend which I hated utmost because we were gonna get married within a few months

So?

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I think when it got physical that was the stalemate and I finally caught her hanging out with her ex and I called it quits. I went to therapy to get myself some help and have been single for 18 months but I've been keeping an eye on her actions she too has been good so far in my opinion..

@Mark-23

Lol my bad I see you left her good job good job

Now go find that special someone who's waiting for you.

Posted by WiseOwl
@Mark-23

Lol my bad I see you left her good job good job

Now go find that special someone who's waiting for you.

Truth be told I'm concentrating on myself... but her as I we still talk a few times a day ect

Posted by Explicit

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Explicit
Mark, how are you so delusional? We "Mark's" have a reputation for being smart! *giggles*

If a Leo wants you back, they will TAKE you back. I know this about them 110% . She is not crying because she wants a marriage and babies with you, she is crying because she feels guilty that you still love her so much and accept her but her heart isn't in it.

I am smart bro.. I'm finishing my BA in mechanical engineering and I am working on my defense corporation for the military and armed forces.

I have companies I wanna invest in and my knowledge is off the charts....



But once I fell in love I became a dumb ass. A total fucking dumb ass

Listen to your intuition. We all have it. Some of us try to suppress but it's still there. You KNOW in your heart if this girl is being genuine, you KNOW in your heart what the truth is. Don't listen to your image, don't listen to your ego, don't listen to what you think would be the best wife for you based on her being a good mother or whatever. Listen to what your intuition is telling you about this situation.

And I know your intuition is working because I read in this thread that you became argumentative and abusive towards her out of insecurity and then found out she was still seeing her ex. That didn't happen out of the blue, that didn't "just" happen. You felt insecure because you could FEEL something was not right.

All I'm saying is, if this girl truly wanted to be with you, she would be the one initiating the reconciliation. She would have taken you back right away. She wouldn't need counselling to brainwash her into making a decision or living with you, she'd know she made an awful mistake and she'd know she wouldn't do it again and that you're the only man for her. She is giving you mixed signals because she doesn't want to be with you. If she really wanted to have babies and a solid marriage with you, you guys would be working on it right now.

Do what you want but I say save yourself the time and heartache and move on. You don't get to experience the new possibilities in life if you're still stuck in past shit. This horrible experience could put you on the path to meeting the right girl. Sometimes the most awful things happen to put you on the path you're meant to be on.

It's tough. Love is crazy and blind. Love sucks. But you have to let go. You don't want to be the one who ends up going to work afraid your wife is gonna cheat on you again. Checking her phone and computer late at night because you can't trust her anymore. Knowing in your heart that you're not receiving the same love you give to her. It's not worth it.

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You hit the fucking nail I tell you that....

You're right in fact it was my intuitions that led me to become insecure it was my intuitions ahead me become angry physical I had my shit thrown off the charts because of my intuition but she did act like everything was normal and they knew nothing was normal

We are still not back together so I've been busy concentrating on myself trying to finish school going to the gym having a good time and improving myself as a genuine human being and as a man as a gentleman

My intuition right now is split between two opinions



A.) she really wants to move in back into a relationship with me she really wants to get married and have children in the marriage and have me as the father to our daughter who is special-needs, because she did but I'm in my car she did help me a lot financially she was always there for me etc. you name it regardless of what happened between us



B.) she said she doesn't talk to her ex-boyfriend anymore but my intuition the other half of it says she's lying she's bullshitting I cannot truster I cannot fathom a single word this coming out of her mouth without questioning every word and every detail , and this part of my into Wishon is one of the reasons why I didn't jump back into the relationship and she came back to me



My conclusion is I'm going to give it time I'm still texting her I'm still testing the waters but at the same time I'm keeping my options open and meeting new people I'm having a good time I made a Virgo woman and she knows about my relationship with my fiancé and she's been a wonderful great support system . I just need to give it time before I jump into a relationship with her and I'm still going to have to do the counseling at all



ha ha ha what's funny is you knew what I meant by we need to go to counseling you know that I wanted her to go to counseling simply to have her make the "right" decision into marriage....



Sometimes I wish she chose to do that herself sometimes I wish she came to me and begged me to marry her



I'm not gonna lie who Sagittarius boyfriend was with her for four fucking years four years and he didn't even put a ring on her hand



God I feel used like a piece of shit

Posted by aquarius_beauty
You sound like my ex Aries. I'm divorcing him, currently. Hes so in denial about us it's crazy. Hes so damn stubborn, I've told him I've moved on and I don't love him the same. He throws a fit but he always comes back. It's the most annoying thing ever. He can't accept defeat. He insists that he 'knows' I'm in love with him. That I love him more than he loves me. If only he knew that I was in love with my Leo best friend and that he is my one and only true love.

This won't end well. Sorry to tell you. But she cheated and you will never forget it. You will always have doubt and insecurities. I wouldn't even doubt that you pushed her into her exes arms. Her infidelity will always plague you. I have Gemini moon and I can tell you that she's just settling for you. Why? Because her ex didn't want commitment and you do. So she figures she should just go ahead and be with you. Truth is, she will regret it.

If I may ask...

So have you ever cheated on your Aries ex?

Truth be told I'm not really stubborn and just lost at the moment but I'm not stubborn because as much as I want to get back with you I'm giving it time you need to give certain things time in order to prove itself or them selves if it's a person



To be honest now that I'm seeing it I feel like she is trying to set up for me because her ex didn't settle down for her I mean he was with her for four years and he didn't even put a ring on her hand



She sees me as a secure stable guy who is young smart educated intelligent willing to put food on the table in the roof of her



By the way she's 40 and I'm 22 so I thought she'd be happy with me that her sagittarius ex-boyfriend who is 34 I'm mean guys a total pussy compared to me



PS I don't always talk shit

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Posted by Ssuperman
If she or anyone cheats.........walk away.

You ain't the one

THANK YOU

it doesn't get through his thick skull. that's why the police needs to be involved.

what the fuck

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what the fuck what?

have you anything or insights to add to Mark's situation??

we've all tried.

instead you're here judging us in how we interact with him.

Posted by Explicit

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Explicit
Mark, how are you so delusional? We "Mark's" have a reputation for being smart! *giggles*

If a Leo wants you back, they will TAKE you back. I know this about them 110% . She is not crying because she wants a marriage and babies with you, she is crying because she feels guilty that you still love her so much and accept her but her heart isn't in it.

I am smart bro.. I'm finishing my BA in mechanical engineering and I am working on my defense corporation for the military and armed forces.

I have companies I wanna invest in and my knowledge is off the charts....



But once I fell in love I became a dumb ass. A total fucking dumb ass

Listen to your intuition. We all have it. Some of us try to suppress but it's still there. You KNOW in your heart if this girl is being genuine, you KNOW in your heart what the truth is. Don't listen to your image, don't listen to your ego, don't listen to what you think would be the best wife for you based on her being a good mother or whatever. Listen to what your intuition is telling you about this situation.

And I know your intuition is working because I read in this thread that you became argumentative and abusive towards her out of insecurity and then found out she was still seeing her ex. That didn't happen out of the blue, that didn't "just" happen. You felt insecure because you could FEEL something was not right.

All I'm saying is, if this girl truly wanted to be with you, she would be the one initiating the reconciliation. She would have taken you back right away. She wouldn't need counselling to brainwash her into making a decision or living with you, she'd know she made an awful mistake and she'd know she wouldn't do it again and that you're the only man for her. She is giving you mixed signals because she doesn't want to be with you. If she really wanted to have babies and a solid marriage with you, you guys would be working on it right now.

Do what you want but I say save yourself the time and heartache and move on. You don't get to experience the new possibilities in life if you're still stuck in past shit. This horrible experience could put you on the path to meeting the right girl. Sometimes the most awful things happen to put you on the path you're meant to be on.

It's tough. Love is crazy and blind. Love sucks. But you have to let go. You don't want to be the one who ends up going to work afraid your wife is gonna cheat on you again. Checking her phone and computer late at night because you can't trust her anymore. Knowing in your heart that you're not receiving the same love you give to her. It's not worth it.

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explicit said it all...

if that isn't gonna be enough...well....

Posted by lisabethur8
you complain about her mars in Gemini?

dude, i think she just isn't into you that way romantically. You don't fulfill her.

you may get along GREAT that is friendship, and platonic love, which is great and awesome...

but it sounds like, sadly you do NOT fulfill her.

this was my offer of advise, opinion, and well, if he don't like it. *shrug*

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Posted by lisabethur8
you complain about her mars in Gemini?

dude, i think she just isn't into you that way romantically. You don't fulfill her.

you may get along GREAT that is friendship, and platonic love, which is great and awesome...

but it sounds like, sadly you do NOT fulfill her.

this was my offer of advise, opinion, and well, if he don't like it. *shrug*

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No no I actually took your advice to my heart and I've been thinking about it and I have two options here

A.) learn how to fulfill her and her heart.



B.) Walk away



Obviously I want to learn how to fulfill her heart based off of her chart I actually uploaded the phot obviously I want to learn how to fulfill her heart based off of her chart I actually uploaded a Picture of our natal charts

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Posted by Mark-23

Posted by bmoon8

Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

What serial killers have that combo in their chart?

I think it was quite disrespectful and it sounds like a buncha hocus pokus... so please let's leave that behind or I'll just tag that comment

I can't get advice not be bashed

I never heard of what she is claiming before. It's the first time I have heard of it. I have looked at serial killer chart astrological patterns in the past and did not notice what she is claiming. I would like to know what serial killers have that astrological pattern, if any.

I don't think the astrological pattern pertains to you because of the degrees that your Sun, Moon, and Mars fall.

Pertaining to your situation, I don't think you will change. You are having her do a polygraph test, which shows that you are controlling her. Nothing good can come from a controlling relationship. This is a toxic relationship and you both should let each other go. I think you would hit her again. She would cheat again because she isn't feeling emotionally fulfilled with you. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

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No no we aren't together yet because I can't trust her at the moment. We will be going to therapy and everything as well after the polygraph test and that simply because I need to trust her because without trust there's no relationship once I truster I will move forward with her the way she wanted her and I to move forward....

At the moment I'm single at the moment I'm concentrating on the self trying to make myself a better man trying to concentrate on my education and life in general...

But whatever spare time I have I try to analyze and think about my situation with my ex because We both love each other or at least that's what I believe in my heart

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by Explicit

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by Explicit
Mark, how are you so delusional? We "Mark's" have a reputation for being smart! *giggles*

If a Leo wants you back, they will TAKE you back. I know this about them 110% . She is not crying because she wants a marriage and babies with you, she is crying because she feels guilty that you still love her so much and accept her but her heart isn't in it.

I am smart bro.. I'm finishing my BA in mechanical engineering and I am working on my defense corporation for the military and armed forces.

I have companies I wanna invest in and my knowledge is off the charts....



But once I fell in love I became a dumb ass. A total fucking dumb ass

Listen to your intuition. We all have it. Some of us try to suppress but it's still there. You KNOW in your heart if this girl is being genuine, you KNOW in your heart what the truth is. Don't listen to your image, don't listen to your ego, don't listen to what you think would be the best wife for you based on her being a good mother or whatever. Listen to what your intuition is telling you about this situation.

And I know your intuition is working because I read in this thread that you became argumentative and abusive towards her out of insecurity and then found out she was still seeing her ex. That didn't happen out of the blue, that didn't "just" happen. You felt insecure because you could FEEL something was not right.

All I'm saying is, if this girl truly wanted to be with you, she would be the one initiating the reconciliation. She would have taken you back right away. She wouldn't need counselling to brainwash her into making a decision or living with you, she'd know she made an awful mistake and she'd know she wouldn't do it again and that you're the only man for her. She is giving you mixed signals because she doesn't want to be with you. If she really wanted to have babies and a solid marriage with you, you guys would be working on it right now.

Do what you want but I say save yourself the time and heartache and move on. You don't get to experience the new possibilities in life if you're still stuck in past shit. This horrible experience could put you on the path to meeting the right girl. Sometimes the most awful things happen to put you on the path you're meant to be on.

It's tough. Love is crazy and blind. Love sucks. But you have to let go. You don't want to be the one who ends up going to work afraid your wife is gonna cheat on you again. Checking her phone and computer late at night because you can't trust her anymore. Knowing in your heart that you're not receiving the same love you give to her. It's not worth it.

explicit said it all...

if that isn't gonna be enough...well....

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Like I said I'm not with her and I won't be with her for a long time because I need to concentrate and work on myself I've also go into one on one therapy with the specialist to work on my self-esteem meant myself and my own issues that I have .

I'm just here trying to get advice based off of her natal chart such as the planets her sun etc.



I've written down everybody's advice and I'm starting get iamb analyzing it I'm trying to make the best decision out there based off of logic and knowledge and experience not that of emotion

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Posted by Mark-23

Posted by bmoon8

Posted by WiseOwl
I see you got a Sun, Moon, and Mars conjunction going on so be careful a lot of serial killers have that combo in their natal chart. The men end up killing the women because, they let women treat them like crap.

What serial killers have that combo in their chart?

I think it was quite disrespectful and it sounds like a buncha hocus pokus... so please let's leave that behind or I'll just tag that comment

I can't get advice not be bashed

I never heard of what she is claiming before. It's the first time I have heard of it. I have looked at serial killer chart astrological patterns in the past and did not notice what she is claiming. I would like to know what serial killers have that astrological pattern, if any.

I don't think the astrological pattern pertains to you because of the degrees that your Sun, Moon, and Mars fall.

Pertaining to your situation, I don't think you will change. You are having her do a polygraph test, which shows that you are controlling her. Nothing good can come from a controlling relationship. This is a toxic relationship and you both should let each other go. I think you would hit her again. She would cheat again because she isn't feeling emotionally fulfilled with you. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

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I'd like to mention this that I will never repeat the past I wasn't the best due it to my insecurities but I'm working on myself....



I need to be the man that was once a confident strong and intelligent and persistent in what he wanted

I'm working Myself, also I'm also trying to be demand that she once fell in love with...

It's all gonna take time you know I'm not in a hurry to jump into a relationship with anybody I need time to myself I need time to my calls and trying to make something out of myself at the moment because the issues that I went through with her have put me rock bottom

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by SofiaV87
I'm going to answer this without judging u considering u put your hands on your wife which obviously is a huge no no... You seem to be sorry & truly want to work things out through counseling...Going by both of your natal charts, her cheating, your abuse towards her & what has happened to her during her childhood- she will cheat again in some way shape or form. There's no relationship with no trust .. Just love can't hold a relationship together IMO.. I'm sure u both love each other in your own ways but I don't think u guys have much of a future. Either way - good luck with counseling

Then please teach me and educate me and give me advice on how to make this marriage work



She wants to fix it just as much as I want to fix it.



She cries and weeps every night when I speak of our marriage I menan she really wanta that and I really want that too

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You guys are in a difficult position. It's in Gods hands

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Posted by Mark-23

Posted by SofiaV87
I'm going to answer this without judging u considering u put your hands on your wife which obviously is a huge no no... You seem to be sorry & truly want to work things out through counseling...Going by both of your natal charts, her cheating, your abuse towards her & what has happened to her during her childhood- she will cheat again in some way shape or form. There's no relationship with no trust .. Just love can't hold a relationship together IMO.. I'm sure u both love each other in your own ways but I don't think u guys have much of a future. Either way - good luck with counseling

Then please teach me and educate me and give me advice on how to make this marriage work



She wants to fix it just as much as I want to fix it.



She cries and weeps every night when I speak of our marriage I menan she really wanta that and I really want that too

You guys are in a difficult position. It's in Gods hands

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I believe we will make it through every time I do see her I still kiss her hands and feet...

I don't care if I have to change myself to be a specific way back to certain way look a certain way I will do it just to fit her criteria

It's true love true love is sacrifice

Hey people I uploaded our full natal chart you guys can see it on the first page...

Anything else you guys need just ask me and I'll do!

Posted by aquarius_beauty

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by aquarius_beauty
You sound like my ex Aries. I'm divorcing him, currently. Hes so in denial about us it's crazy. Hes so damn stubborn, I've told him I've moved on and I don't love him the same. He throws a fit but he always comes back. It's the most annoying thing ever. He can't accept defeat. He insists that he 'knows' I'm in love with him. That I love him more than he loves me. If only he knew that I was in love with my Leo best friend and that he is my one and only true love.

This won't end well. Sorry to tell you. But she cheated and you will never forget it. You will always have doubt and insecurities. I wouldn't even doubt that you pushed her into her exes arms. Her infidelity will always plague you. I have Gemini moon and I can tell you that she's just settling for you. Why? Because her ex didn't want commitment and you do. So she figures she should just go ahead and be with you. Truth is, she will regret it.

If I may ask...

So have you ever cheated on your Aries ex?

Truth be told I'm not really stubborn and just lost at the moment but I'm not stubborn because as much as I want to get back with you I'm giving it time you need to give certain things time in order to prove itself or them selves if it's a person



To be honest now that I'm seeing it I feel like she is trying to set up for me because her ex didn't settle down for her I mean he was with her for four years and he didn't even put a ring on her hand



She sees me as a secure stable guy who is young smart educated intelligent willing to put food on the table in the roof of her



By the way she's 40 and I'm 22 so I thought she'd be happy with me that her sagittarius ex-boyfriend who is 34 I'm mean guys a total pussy compared to me



PS I don't always talk shit

No, I was faithful 100% . Even lost contact with some of my female friends because of him. He was always so insecure, jealous, and controlling. It's not until he smacked me one night after coming home tired from work. I left him. And in that month I befriended a Leo and it was completely different to how my ex was. So kind, patient, loyal, loving, and respectful. I moved on, I told my ex but he didn't accept it. If that's called cheating then so be it. But up until the moment he laid his hands on me, I was faithful to him 100% . The moment he put his hands on me, I said F him. I'm not going through this again with him, I'm done.

But he doesn't see it that way. I call Aries the 'victims of life' because they never like to accept or come to terms with the truth. He blames me for 'cheating' which honestly it wasn't since we were no longer living together. He throws that crap ever so often even though he has 'forgiven' me and wishes to get back together and is extremely persistent. He doesn't accept that he pushed me to leave him. He fked up. He treated me poorly, he was abusive, and I was loving and faithful to him. But it's done now.

I haven't looked back since. I'm very content with everything right now in my life. To be quite honest with you, the way you write and express yourself about the ex sounds really insecure. I know you being an Aries you will never accept it, but I know Aries ppl very well. It's bullcrap. My ex compared himself, the same way you are doing, to the guy I'm with now. Saying he can provide for me and give me everything he can't. Really? How does he know? Does he know what I feel? Does he know what I want? Yes, because I told him but he doesn't get it! I do care about my ex but it's simply platonic.

When I broke things off with the Leo guy in my life, I considered going back to my Aries ex. Because he was there, available, and willing to take me back. I was lonely and brokenhearted and I figured, why not? I'll just stay for a while until I find someone who I really wish to be with. But, I thought about it and decided that it wasn't the best because I didn't want to hurt him further, despite the hell he put me through. So I came off clean and told him, I will never love him like he wants me to. I"m not in love with him. My love lies with my Leo. Now and always.

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Sweetie I never blamed my lioness for cheating I was just explaining to the crowd how it lead from us being wonderful, To my insecurities then to my abuse then to her cheating to the mess that im in at the moment.



As a matter of fact I learned from a very young age to stand up for my mistakes and my faults and take action after I stand up and admit to my faults and mistakes....

I went to therapy I broke it off with her I'm concentrating on myself at the moment as I've posted in many many messages were not together officially were just talking and we both want to move forward and we both want to be together I'm here to get information on how to be a better man for her! I'm not here to belittle her criticize her or put her down! If it's anything I want to worship the ground she walks on...

One last thing not every Aries is the same, not every Aries does and feels the same... yes we all do suffer from some sort of insecurities or issues but we can go fix that up through a professional psychologist or therapist which is what I'm doing at the moment while I'm giving myself and my ex the space that we both need!!



My ex fiancé for gave me for my abuse and I for gave her for her end of the mess...



So please do not treat me as if I am someone who just uses it in bits of women or something because honestly I don't know what to say I'm not here to defend myself I'm here to get advice

Posted by aquarius_beauty

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by aquarius_beauty
You sound like my ex Aries. I'm divorcing him, currently. Hes so in denial about us it's crazy. Hes so damn stubborn, I've told him I've moved on and I don't love him the same. He throws a fit but he always comes back. It's the most annoying thing ever. He can't accept defeat. He insists that he 'knows' I'm in love with him. That I love him more than he loves me. If only he knew that I was in love with my Leo best friend and that he is my one and only true love.

This won't end well. Sorry to tell you. But she cheated and you will never forget it. You will always have doubt and insecurities. I wouldn't even doubt that you pushed her into her exes arms. Her infidelity will always plague you. I have Gemini moon and I can tell you that she's just settling for you. Why? Because her ex didn't want commitment and you do. So she figures she should just go ahead and be with you. Truth is, she will regret it.

If I may ask...

So have you ever cheated on your Aries ex?

Truth be told I'm not really stubborn and just lost at the moment but I'm not stubborn because as much as I want to get back with you I'm giving it time you need to give certain things time in order to prove itself or them selves if it's a person



To be honest now that I'm seeing it I feel like she is trying to set up for me because her ex didn't settle down for her I mean he was with her for four years and he didn't even put a ring on her hand



She sees me as a secure stable guy who is young smart educated intelligent willing to put food on the table in the roof of her



By the way she's 40 and I'm 22 so I thought she'd be happy with me that her sagittarius ex-boyfriend who is 34 I'm mean guys a total pussy compared to me



PS I don't always talk shit

No, I was faithful 100% . Even lost contact with some of my female friends because of him. He was always so insecure, jealous, and controlling. It's not until he smacked me one night after coming home tired from work. I left him. And in that month I befriended a Leo and it was completely different to how my ex was. So kind, patient, loyal, loving, and respectful. I moved on, I told my ex but he didn't accept it. If that's called cheating then so be it. But up until the moment he laid his hands on me, I was faithful to him 100% . The moment he put his hands on me, I said F him. I'm not going through this again with him, I'm done.

But he doesn't see it that way. I call Aries the 'victims of life' because they never like to accept or come to terms with the truth. He blames me for 'cheating' which honestly it wasn't since we were no longer living together. He throws that crap ever so often even though he has 'forgiven' me and wishes to get back together and is extremely persistent. He doesn't accept that he pushed me to leave him. He fked up. He treated me poorly, he was abusive, and I was loving and faithful to him. But it's done now.

I haven't looked back since. I'm very content with everything right now in my life. To be quite honest with you, the way you write and express yourself about the ex sounds really insecure. I know you being an Aries you will never accept it, but I know Aries ppl very well. It's bullcrap. My ex compared himself, the same way you are doing, to the guy I'm with now. Saying he can provide for me and give me everything he can't. Really? How does he know? Does he know what I feel? Does he know what I want? Yes, because I told him but he doesn't get it! I do care about my ex but it's simply platonic.

When I broke things off with the Leo guy in my life, I considered going back to my Aries ex. Because he was there, available, and willing to take me back. I was lonely and brokenhearted and I figured, why not? I'll just stay for a while until I find someone who I really wish to be with. But, I thought about it and decided that it wasn't the best because I didn't want to hurt him further, despite the hell he put me through. So I came off clean and told him, I will never love him like he wants me to. I"m not in love with him. My love lies with my Leo. Now and always.

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But damn you did break your Aries man apart with the last paragraph...



What you should've done was tell him to get his shit together and go to fucking therapy and get rid of his anger issues and get rid of his insecurities and then you should've joined him in therapy as well and talked about your problems because a lot of the times in my opinion the biggest issue is communication Aries has a hard time listening to the other end.

The problem is the new the problem was him I don't blame you for leaving him I don't blame my woman for cheating on me

I'm just fighting for the future that's all...

If your still with the Aries then please get his ass into therapy. It really really really helps you know.

Posted by aquarius_beauty

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by aquarius_beauty

Posted by Mark-23

Posted by aquarius_beauty
You sound like my ex Aries. I'm divorcing him, currently. Hes so in denial about us it's crazy. Hes so damn stubborn, I've told him I've moved on and I don't love him the same. He throws a fit but he always comes back. It's the most annoying thing ever. He can't accept defeat. He insists that he 'knows' I'm in love with him. That I love him more than he loves me. If only he knew that I was in love with my Leo best friend and that he is my one and only true love.

This won't end well. Sorry to tell you. But she cheated and you will never forget it. You will always have doubt and insecurities. I wouldn't even doubt that you pushed her into her exes arms. Her infidelity will always plague you. I have Gemini moon and I can tell you that she's just settling for you. Why? Because her ex didn't want commitment and you do. So she figures she should just go ahead and be with you. Truth is, she will regret it.

If I may ask...

So have you ever cheated on your Aries ex?

Truth be told I'm not really stubborn and just lost at the moment but I'm not stubborn because as much as I want to get back with you I'm giving it time you need to give certain things time in order to prove itself or them selves if it's a person



To be honest now that I'm seeing it I feel like she is trying to set up for me because her ex didn't settle down for her I mean he was with her for four years and he didn't even put a ring on her hand



She sees me as a secure stable guy who is young smart educated intelligent willing to put food on the table in the roof of her



By the way she's 40 and I'm 22 so I thought she'd be happy with me that her sagittarius ex-boyfriend who is 34 I'm mean guys a total pussy compared to me



PS I don't always talk shit

No, I was faithful 100% . Even lost contact with some of my female friends because of him. He was always so insecure, jealous, and controlling. It's not until he smacked me one night after coming home tired from work. I left him. And in that month I befriended a Leo and it was completely different to how my ex was. So kind, patient, loyal, loving, and respectful. I moved on, I told my ex but he didn't accept it. If that's called cheating then so be it. But up until the moment he laid his hands on me, I was faithful to him 100% . The moment he put his hands on me, I said F him. I'm not going through this again with him, I'm done.

But he doesn't see it that way. I call Aries the 'victims of life' because they never like to accept or come to terms with the truth. He blames me for 'cheating' which honestly it wasn't since we were no longer living together. He throws that crap ever so often even though he has 'forgiven' me and wishes to get back together and is extremely persistent. He doesn't accept that he pushed me to leave him. He fked up. He treated me poorly, he was abusive, and I was loving and faithful to him. But it's done now.

I haven't looked back since. I'm very content with everything right now in my life. To be quite honest with you, the way you write and express yourself about the ex sounds really insecure. I know you being an Aries you will never accept it, but I know Aries ppl very well. It's bullcrap. My ex compared himself, the same way you are doing, to the guy I'm with now. Saying he can provide for me and give me everything he can't. Really? How does he know? Does he know what I feel? Does he know what I want? Yes, because I told him but he doesn't get it! I do care about my ex but it's simply platonic.

When I broke things off with the Leo guy in my life, I considered going back to my Aries ex. Because he was there, available, and willing to take me back. I was lonely and brokenhearted and I figured, why not? I'll just stay for a while until I find someone who I really wish to be with. But, I thought about it and decided that it wasn't the best because I didn't want to hurt him further, despite the hell he put me through. So I came off clean and told him, I will never love him like he wants me to. I"m not in love with him. My love lies with my Leo. Now and always.

But damn you did break your Aries man apart with the last paragraph...



What you should've done was tell him to get his shit together and go to fucking therapy and get rid of his anger issues and get rid of his insecurities and then you should've joined him in therapy as well and talked about your problems because a lot of the times in my opinion the biggest issue is communication Aries has a hard time listening to the other end.

The problem is the new the problem was him I don't blame you for leaving him I don't blame my woman for cheating on me

I'm just fighting for the future that's all...

If your still with the Aries then please get his ass into therapy. It really really really helps you know.

I did suggest therapy for him but he's in complete denial. I'm not with him and I don't have time nor patience for his bullcrap. I'm done with him. I had to be cruel to him because he wasn't getting it. He was really doing a number on me. Stalking me, harassing me, telling me sh#t. I had enough and I had to tell him how it is. I feel bad but it has to be done.

Well whatever you decide, I hope it's the best decision. Best of luck!

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Him being in denial isn't your fault! He could've fixed everything up he could've mind up and said hey listen this and this and this is my fault and I just want to love you and I just want to move forward



As a man instead of being in denial you should've gone to therapy fixed himself and then came to you and said hey let's work on ourselves just go to marriage therapist or counselor



The 18 months that I've not been with her I was actually working on myself going to the gym going to therapy working and going to school I've been doing my own thing keeping myself happy and maintaining a calm presents but th The 18 months that I've not been with her I was actually working on myself going to the gym going to therapy working and going to school I've been doing my own thing keeping myself happy and maintaining a calm presents within myself



I've learned a long time ago that you cannot change others he can only change yourself and I'll change myself to the way my lioness wants me to be according to her Natal chart

Posted by bmoon8
@Mark-23 Why do you want to be with a woman who is a lot older than you?

I'll have to write a book to answer that...

I love her for who and what she is and I do not see Age as something that would stop us from being together.

Sure she is older.. but compared to girls my age she is wise and has the persona of the kinda woman I can't amongst my own age group...

She's amazing and gorgeous and very beautiful and an amazing body too.

She treats me like a man not a guy not a bro...



I mean I could go on forever about her...

NOW, girls my age take my niceness for creepiness while an older woman finds me a genuine nice guy.

But many young women take my kindness as weakness... that's unfortunate because I'm a tuff guy.

let's not forget I'm also from New Jersey originally, I grew up with the John Gotti mob guys who taught me to be a gentleman and a strong man at the same time and to value the family life instead of fucking around with broads...

I value marriage/children and stability...

I have to be honest I really praise you for putting up with his ass for nine years and it is unfortunate that he chose not to go to therapy because I did go to therapy one-on-one session with the professional

You fought hard he didn't he was a coward but I'm not a coward and I'm willing to change myself for my Lionesse

What I don't get is not only did he chose not to go to therapy and change him self but he was also in denial and at the same time he was controlling



I mean if you're going to be controlling at least provide your woman with love stability with the emotional wellness and physical needs if you know what I mean

By the way everybody I posted the natal chart of my fiancé and myself...

So if any experienced astrologers can provide me with positive advice on how to be a better Aries ram for my Lionesse thank you very much!!!

As I said positive let's keep this thread positive !!!!

Here is the link to the chart....

http://m.imgur.com/dvg9G3l

This is the link to the full natal chart...

http://m.imgur.com/dvg9G3l