I need some insight on this Leo. Pleaseeee help.

Ok so I went on a group date with another Leo.. well it started off as just hanging out and catching up but it ended as a date. Anyways.. I thought we hit it off realllly good. He was complimenting me all night, we were talking all night, and he pointed out little things that I did that made him think I was "the perfect girl". He even opened up to me with some stories about his life. & I don't know if it was because he was drinking or what but he getting super friedly. We ended up making out but that's it I didn't let it get any further. Well I left my keys in his friends car and I couldn't get into my house so he offered me to stay at his place. I still didn't let it get any further than a heavy makeout session. I was there for a few hours but I didn't end up staying there cuz I thought it was wrong for a first date kinda thing so I had my friend pick me up. He wasn't mad or irritated that I didn't stay, he was very respectful and he kissed me goodnight but what I don't get is why hasn't he called me, text me, or asked to hang out again?? Its been a week since we hung out and I mean its not like its hard.. we live in my same neighborhood!! I just don't get it 😢

he might be put out that you didn't fuck him. you could text saying 'was it something i said? 😛' which is playful and a leo would probably respond to that.

or you could put it down to for whatever reason, he doesn't want to engage with you right now and put him on the backburner for now. i reckon he'll be back 😉

this no sex on a first date goes so many different ways and you can't anticipate how a guy will react to it. even if they do respect you for not doing it, they might simply engage in pursuit so you finally 'give in' or 'give it up', then they leave you high and dry.

or they feel the sexual spark and feel rejected/annoyed when you don't have sex with them. or just sexually frustrated, lol.
sometimes it's for their own good though, them waiting means you have longer to decide what you want from the relationship before you add chemicals and emotions to the mix.

i say play by your own rules. as you can see, it has little impact on whether they'll call or not.

Wow.

You have sex with them they don't call. You don't have sex with them...they don't call. Men lol

I think you did good for yourself tho. He could have not called you anyways, even if you had had sex with him. Thing is, you didn't so at least you're not left hurting because you gave it away already. Good for you 🙂

Now it'll make it that much easier to forget him if he doesn't ever call.

He could have been put off by you not having sex with him, but perhaps that's a good sign for you...maybe he just wanted sex from you. Who knows. I don't know the guy and doesn't seem like you've known him for that long either. It's anyone's guess at this point what's going through his head.

My leo friend told me once sometimes he doesn't text a girl back right away or call because he doesn't want to seem desperate. Maybe he's waiting till you and your friends go out on another night out together. Maybe you should plan one and tell them to bring the leo 😉

Posted by FireDragonScorpio
and i say that mainly cos i've fired off some shockingly embarrassing texts and emails which have then also been ignored and compounded my misery further. if i sound preachy, it cos i wish someone older had told me some of the stuff i found out through humiliating myself, lol.

True true. And then you have the added bonus of this guy knowing your friends so you could end up seeing him again... and if you do send a text and he doesn't answer that could be really awkward.

Meh. Send him a text and leave it at that. If you had a good time, let him know and maybe suggest a follow up. We like it and we'll respect that you put yourself out there. Just don't go expecting anything. We like to have fun and live in the moment. Sometimes that's all it amounts to. We are also busy bodies and we have to prioritize the people in our life. It can take time because we are some picky bastards.

Thank you guys! You are all so helpful. Well he did end up texting me last night. This was our conversation..

Him: hey how is your Saturday going?
Me: it was alright. I had the house to myself all day so I took advantage of the peace and quiet.
Him: you should have hit me up. I could use some peace and quiet with all the roommates I have. Anyways you should call me sometime. I do live like literally right around the block. 🙂
Me: well you should have hit me up.. idk your schedule :p
Him: how about we hang out tomorrow? I'll call you ok 🙂
Me: ok sounds like a plan. Talk to you tomorrow then.

That was last night. I did text him in the morning saying hey and he said he was at work getting his check and that was it. Its like 5 o' clock pm already and he hasn't said anything. This is really annoying lol.

Hmm..that is confusing lol

What's the latest tho? He ever call you?

It is now 7:30pm and he has not called or even sent a simple text. I know he'll eventually hit me up again but geez luweez is he confusing! & its not like we're complete strangers.. we went to school together and he knows my family he used to be good friends with my cousin. I know Leo's are difficult but I feel like giving up already :l lol.

Posted by nyxgoddess
It is now 7:30pm and he has not called or even sent a simple text. I know he'll eventually hit me up again but geez luweez is he confusing! & its not like we're complete strangers.. we went to school together and he knows my family he used to be good friends with my cousin. I know Leo's are difficult but I feel like giving up already :l lol.

Yeah I hear ya. I probably would have given up too. I'd feel like he had other options and wasn't putting me first

First, read 'He's just not that into you'. NEVER be the one to do the planning for dates EVER!

Now, he didn't follow through with calling you nor did he give you adequate time for a date. Girls now have it bad with this 'hanging out' bullshit. Do you know what this is? A way to get around having to formally date a woman. Don't let him get away with this although most do because you want to go out with him so bad and hope he'll treat you right but he won't if he doesn't have to work for it and realize you aren't like all the other women who have no problem with 'hanging out' which usually includes sex without any commitment.

There has to be a formal structure in place in order for this guy to take you seriously. Especially for Leo's. They need to romance you but can be lazy and take whatever is too easy for a quick fuck. If you really want something with him, you have to get him to ask you out on a proper date. Right now, since you made out with him without any real bond with him, he thinks you're up for anything and will treat you like that. You can turn it around but play smart. Don't be so available and don't accept vague hanging out bullshit. If he wants to see you, it has to be a date and he has to take you out somewhere and actually care about getting to know you. Look, I dated a Leo for 7 years, I have three Leo cousins, one of them is Jonleo here on the boards.

If this guy is young then he's all about getting as many women as he can in his stable. Yeah, they rotate them. He may not want a relationship but any woman who seems game and easy will be just that and he won't care if he follows through with what he says.

FireDragonScorpio,

I don't know why you're so set on how it doesn't matter when you have sex with someone. The natural evolution of a relationship is to get to know each other, form an emotional-mental bond and then a culmination expressed through sex. This is how it works out for the majority and is a good way for a people to protect themselves from getting hurt. Sex before commitment & true organic development of a relationship indicates nothing yet the opposite is. You point out a few exceptions to the rule which there always are but for the most part, when it comes to love, you play the odds. And the odds are stacked against those who do not a develop an emotional, mental, spiritual bond and a mutual commitment before sex.

Mistery, throw that book out of the window. Love is all about trying to beat the odds and no rule book is going to help. Trial and error. That is all you can do. We are not meant to be compatible and have deep, meaningful relationships with most people we encounter.

I have had sex before commitment with all but one guy because he was an experimental FWB. I have only had 3 boyfriends (on the 3rd now) and all ended up being long-term. My first for 3 years, the second for 7, and my third has been going on for a total of almost 2 years and still going.

I, as a woman, can not commit myself to anyone without engaging in sex first. Sex is an important aspect of my relationships because it is one of the greatest ways I express myself and, let's face it, it's awfully fun. Things get very up-close and personal. I can not stay in a relationship with someone at this point in my life if the sex is terrible and our rhythms don't match. Now, I do have to add that I do have to develop an emotional, mental, and spiritual bond with someone first but that does not go for commitment. Sex is always a pre-req.

Also, I've pretty much done all the planning in the beginning of my relationships and I don't recall it being to my detriment. In fact, they usually wanted me to so they could be available at my convenience and because I'm just more decisive that way. I know what I like to do. I am adventurous and they knew that about me.

The truth is, you win some and you lose more than you win and that's normal.

Ok so I have two totally different types of advice and now I'm just as confused as ever... idk what to do or say when he finally does decide to text me. I guess Mistery can be right about him wanting it to be easy and hang out only when it is convenient for him. & I guess I'm just stumped because I thought he was really fascinated with me. Do you think that maybe he's just trying to see if I would initiate first because he doesn't want to seem stupid and he's trying to protect himself?

Idk idkk... >.

Ok ninjamu,

So you go after a guy and if these guys gave little to nothing back, would you still be interested and keep after them? Doesn't he have to step up at some point? Uh, something more than come over and let's fuck? Maybe you dated good men who wanted a woman to take the lead (Cancers, earth signs) Were they Leo's? A Leo male may go for it to some extent but there will be a lot of hot/cold, trial and error (meaning he'll have to be with a lot of other women before he'll realize how important she is to him).

@nyxgoddess,

I stand by my post. You said you were available and any guy who really wanted to be with you would have followed through. Or at least would have called and made other plans. To chase an ambivalent guy is like trying to catch a rainbow.

Posted by Mistery
Ok ninjamu,

So you go after a guy and if these guys gave little to nothing back, would you still be interested and keep after them? Doesn't he have to step up at some point? Uh, something more than come over and let's fuck? Maybe you dated good men who wanted a woman to take the lead (Cancers, earth signs) Were they Leo's? A Leo male may go for it to some extent but there will be a lot of hot/cold, trial and error (meaning he'll have to be with a lot of other women before he'll realize how important she is to him).

@nyxgoddess,

I stand by my post. You said you were available and any guy who really wanted to be with you would have followed through. Or at least would have called and made other plans. To chase an ambivalent guy is like trying to catch a rainbow.

I don't think you can judge it by signs really. While I didn't sleep with my leo ex him and I did engage in heavy foreplay on our first encounter. We stayed together for over a year, but it didn't last only due to the fact that I had trust issues from my previous relationship.

Some guys are good guys. I know this is not the norm, but some will generally stay with the person they got physical with on the first night.

I heard somewhere once that the reason why some guys won't get in a relationship is not because you got physical with them but because they don't see you as the right person for them. I can elaborate on that more later, but I'm tired.
Final thing tho: If a guy you've just had a passionate roll with sees you as someone they'd wanna start a relationship with then he's a keeper.

Oh and this leo had several placements in leo and a moon in aries... lotta fire.

Him and I still talk and are good friends after 6 yrs of knowing each other and I still get him going after all this time. Some guys you just can't judge em by their charts.

Posted by ninjamu
Mistery, throw that book out of the window. Love is all about trying to beat the odds and no rule book is going to help. Trial and error. That is all you can do. We are not meant to be compatible and have deep, meaningful relationships with most people we encounter.

yup.

Alright guys, well he did end up hitting me up laterrr later on that night at... 12:30 IN THE F'ING MORNING! he sent me a text saying "hey do you want to hang out right now. I can't sleep" (since we live like literally 1 minute away walking distance from each other it makes it easy to do that) anyways I just said back "sorry. You're a little too late. Goodnight."
And he said "oh alright then.. I just couldn't sleep cuz I drank a whole bunch of coffee. I was studying for a test tomorrow. But ok goodnight 🙂"

Me being a taurus I was very mad. I felt that he put me last. He takes everything ao lightly and so carefree. We're both 20 so yea we're both still very young but I also know he's capable of being a "good guy" cuz my family has known him since he was little. I guess all I can do is chill out and do my own thing and see what happens.

Posted by nyxgoddess
Alright guys, well he did end up hitting me up laterrr later on that night at... 12:30 IN THE F'ING MORNING! he sent me a text saying "hey do you want to hang out right now. I can't sleep"

that's a booty call m'dear. ice him out, you seem to want more from him then he's willing to give.

hang out? haha yeah right you mean try and get your leg over -_-

Posted by nyxgoddess
Alright guys, well he did end up hitting me up laterrr later on that night at... 12:30 IN THE F'ING MORNING! he sent me a text saying "hey do you want to hang out right now. I can't sleep" (since we live like literally 1 minute away walking distance from each other it makes it easy to do that) anyways I just said back "sorry. You're a little too late. Goodnight."
And he said "oh alright then.. I just couldn't sleep cuz I drank a whole bunch of coffee. I was studying for a test tomorrow. But ok goodnight 🙂"

Me being a taurus I was very mad. I felt that he put me last. He takes everything ao lightly and so carefree. We're both 20 so yea we're both still very young but I also know he's capable of being a "good guy" cuz my family has known him since he was little. I guess all I can do is chill out and do my own thing and see what happens.

At 12:30 at night? The heck!? Sounds like a booty call. Just sayin'

I totally agree you guys. & as much as I wanted to see him I knew that I shouldn't so I didn't. He needs to work for it and if that's all he wants outta me then he's not gonna get it. I even playfully sent him a text in the morning saying "good luck on your test today" lol.

Posted by DeadRingerr
@OP: Leo's dont generally fall hard,,,dont expect to much from them in the chasing department, he probably has like two others waiting in the wings....You might have to persue him....they sort of go by the, "out of sight, out of mind" falicy!! I love Leo's dont get me wrong but when it comes to intensity in their relationships, they suck in that department.

Lol where do you get your info?

I can agree with the first half about 2 birds waiting in the wing for him, but leos are pretty passionate. Some of the most intense people I've known have been leos. And when I say intense I don't mean overly needy like a libra. Just intense enough to keep me (a sag) interested.

@ OP: I think you've got it from here. Now that I know you're a taur I'm confident you know what you want and will stand by it. No wishy-washyness there 🙂

Posted by DeadRingerr
I didnt get it from here...It has been my experience with them..I have dated three Leo's in my life..one for 2 years, the other 4 years, and the last one was for 2 years.....Two out of the three cheated on me. The one that didnt double crossed me with his ex, he didnt cheat, just found out he was talking to her about some things he shouldnt have. I didnt feel the intensity, that I feel when I am with a water sign. Water signs make u feel like you're the only one in the world...Leo's are always looking around for the next best thing...Just my observation is all....

May be my interpretation of it then as a sag since I don't like to be smothered. I do like attention tho having mainly scorpio influences.

It may have been that these leos had different placements for venus and mars than my ex leo. Both of his are in leo as well. Then again he is a leo/cancer cusp so he does get some of that watery influence there.

I've always felt like water signs like cancer and pisces were too much for me tho...too much obsession over one person.

Posted by DeadRingerr
Sagitarius are tough nut's to crack...they dont fall to easily either..probably the reason why Leo's want u that much more....both fire signs, so there's that connection.

I wouldn't say we don't fall easily, we just get board with people easily. If I find someone I know I want to be with I will fall fast and I will want to remain with them forever. We are very hopeful...which is why we often jump into things. We're bad bad >.< I get burned a lot.

Posted by nyxgoddess
Taurues fall fast too though. Our ruling planet is venus so you could imagine how bad I love love and want to share it with someone special. My sun is in aquarius and my moon is in cancer so I'm constantly fighting with my emotions. My aquarius side is telling me to forget him but my taurus/cancer side is telling me to not give up and be up for the challenge.

I'm trying my best to just chill out, keep a strong mature demeanor and see what happens.

why would you wanna keep trying for the challenge? its clearly obvious he only wants sex. he's still texting or making attempts to see you just to see if you will give in and be weak. i dont know too much about leo men but being a leo woman, once i have in my mind i only can see you for sex that's all there will be. also once i know someones weak i can become quite the sexual predator or a user and manipulator.

u have to be strong girl. i see this with taurus' all the time. yall will keep trying and trying and never want to give up while the other person will keep playing and playing with you.

for me, it would definitely feel right if "he's" the one wondering if im attracted to him. OP, if you're thinking/analyzing things more than what he's doing that's pretty clear, he's not that attracted to you the way you are to him. wouldn't it feel great if u don't have to wonder because if a guy really likes you that much, he'll find ways to be near you, to spend time with you. not remember you when he's bored, can't sleep or has nothing else to do. im sorry if i seem so harsh but i've gone through the same exact situation just over a month ago. don't focus so much energy on things that are out of your hands. if he's attracted to you and just doesn't have the time to pursue you, then he'll pursue on his own time. just don't waste time waiting, ok.

dont see anything wrong with sleeping with a guy on a first date...why are we even discussing it? lol. *wink...

Nevermind about it guys. He's planning on taking off in a few months. He's joining the military soon. I'm sure he doesn't want to get into anything right now. Bummer :l

Posted by nyxgoddess
Nevermind about it guys. He's planning on taking off in a few months. He's joining the military soon. I'm sure he doesn't want to get into anything right now. Bummer :l

Ah military guy. I knew a leo who was one. I wouldn't be able to take liking one....too much anxiety on my part and their away too much

Ok guys, so here is an update about my leo situation.. well I decided since they're lazy in the perusing department to just take initiative. I asked him if he wanted to come see the new twilight movie with me (hehe) next weekend when it comes out and at first he didn't want to because he said it was lame but then he said "you know what.. nevermind sure lets go see it" so he picks me up so we can preorder the tickets for the midnight premier and then he wanted to go have dinner after. So in my head I'm thinking "wow I'm seeing such a whole different side of him and he such a sweethwart for doing all this" well while we're having dinner he tells me how he is helping take care of his family because he has alot of brothers and sisters and that he gives half of his paycheck to his parents and that he pretty much spent all his money on me (he didn't say it in a rude way though) but yeah I just feel really bad now and to top it all off he has work early in the morning the next day of the movie. At the time I didn't think anything of it but now that I am.. I feel really bad. I think he is just amazing for doing all this for me.. even though we hardly talk and this is only the 2nd time we've hung out. Oh and after dinner we went to gis friends house and hung out ovee there and watched a movie but he didn't try to make any moves on me this time.. he didn't try to kiss me or hold me /: I'm not that very good at reading signals but I just can't seem to read him. I just can't stop thinking about how horrible I feel for accepting the "midnight premier" tickets when he has work early the next morning and him spending all his money on me :/ he also didn't call this a "date" and he didn't try to hold my hand or anything.. ughhh I really like him but I'm soooo confused. What do you guys think about his behavior? I need an outide opinion of how you think he feels about me..