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Help with a coworker situation
How do you know you have more credentials?
Mind you - in the corporate world a lot of things play role except credentials.
If they see her aggressive and you as passive - that matters because people with 'whatever' attitude don't usually make it.
Corporate world is a battle field.
However I've seen people without education make it higher than those with college degree. So it's not what you have - it's who you are. And you said it yourself - you aren't ambitious. You wait for promotions while she is making it happen!
Mind you - in the corporate world a lot of things play role except credentials.
If they see her aggressive and you as passive - that matters because people with 'whatever' attitude don't usually make it.
Corporate world is a battle field.
However I've seen people without education make it higher than those with college degree. So it's not what you have - it's who you are. And you said it yourself - you aren't ambitious. You wait for promotions while she is making it happen!
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
Posted by FrogPrinceShe seems like a person who if confronted will laugh in his face!
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
When I am made look bad in front of anybody - I wouldn't keep silent.
Why would anyone be intimidated by person with 'less credentials'?
Because street smart is more than diploma smart!
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamDoes she care?
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
Are you loved by anybody?
I bet you don't see how you are viewed by others as well.
Posted by EvoxxxscorpioI've seen those without but I get you as well. Have to be lucky if you don't have papers and having bosses really value your work!Posted by Gemitatilol you still need both but I get you.Posted by FrogPrinceShe seems like a person who if confronted will laugh in his face!
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
When I am made look bad in front of anybody - I wouldn't keep silent.
Why would anyone be intimidated by person with 'less credentials'?
Because street smart is more than diploma smart!
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
Very true. Everyone finds those types annoying. Just go about your day and pay her no mind. She will weed herself out.
Posted by EvoxxxscorpioAnd if you don't - it's deadly combination...for your career! ?Posted by GemitatiLol street smart does help but if you have both it's a deadly combination.Posted by EvoxxxscorpioI've seen those without but I get you as well. Have to be lucky if you don't have papers and having bosses really value your work!Posted by Gemitatilol you still need both but I get you.Posted by FrogPrinceShe seems like a person who if confronted will laugh in his face!
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
When I am made look bad in front of anybody - I wouldn't keep silent.
Why would anyone be intimidated by person with 'less credentials'?
Because street smart is more than diploma smart!
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Posted by EvoxxxscorpioWhat would you do if some bozo talked shit about you to your boss?Posted by GemitatiLol ?Posted by EvoxxxscorpioAnd if you don't - it's deadly combination...for your career! ?Posted by GemitatiLol street smart does help but if you have both it's a deadly combination.Posted by EvoxxxscorpioI've seen those without but I get you as well. Have to be lucky if you don't have papers and having bosses really value your work!Posted by Gemitatilol you still need both but I get you.Posted by FrogPrinceShe seems like a person who if confronted will laugh in his face!
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
When I am made look bad in front of anybody - I wouldn't keep silent.
Why would anyone be intimidated by person with 'less credentials'?
Because street smart is more than diploma smart!
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Posted by Deedee86Maybe at McDonalds...not in a big time companies! Different structure. Different world.Posted by rockyroadicecream
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
Very true. Everyone finds those types annoying. Just go about your day and pay her no mind. She will weed herself out.
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Posted by RozaeonSome of my friends have also suggested that she must be doing this because she's insecure. So in the beginning I tried to bolster her confidence by giving her compliments...in a way a friend would but then she came back with more jabs...so I felt betrayed and gave up. And now she continues to be a thorn on my side.
Wow she seems really insecure to do things like that and i'm sorry that you feel this way :/
First thing i would advice is to confront her directly, sometimes people don't realize that they hurt someone else and i know that some of you Scorp males have this facade so some people might think that you are impassive, you don't care, so they will continue
Also, you know deep down that you have more credential than her so keep that in mind ! Don't ever let anybody belittle you. You already work hard it's a proof that you are good in what you do so they're is no reason to kiss butt. You have pride so you should not tolerate things like this. Acting towards her like she does to you will only put you in her level and you don't want that
I really don't want to confront her. I'm way past that point now. "Don't ever let anybody belittle you." How do I do that without serving it back to her?...which I really don't like to do.
Thanks for your thoughts!! I'm a scorp gal by the way.
Posted by EvoxxxscorpioWhat was I thinking— Of course, dear!?Posted by GemitatiIt has never happened yet cause I'm usually always best buds with the boss. LolPosted by EvoxxxscorpioWhat would you do if some bozo talked shit about you to your boss?Posted by GemitatiLol ?Posted by EvoxxxscorpioAnd if you don't - it's deadly combination...for your career! ?Posted by GemitatiLol street smart does help but if you have both it's a deadly combination.Posted by EvoxxxscorpioI've seen those without but I get you as well. Have to be lucky if you don't have papers and having bosses really value your work!Posted by Gemitatilol you still need both but I get you.Posted by FrogPrinceShe seems like a person who if confronted will laugh in his face!
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
When I am made look bad in front of anybody - I wouldn't keep silent.
Why would anyone be intimidated by person with 'less credentials'?
Because street smart is more than diploma smart!
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Posted by EvoxxxscorpioI shoul had known!!! I failed miserably! ?Posted by GemitatiBut if that happens most likely they will get fired lolPosted by EvoxxxscorpioWhat would you do if some bozo talked shit about you to your boss?Posted by GemitatiLol ?Posted by EvoxxxscorpioAnd if you don't - it's deadly combination...for your career! ?Posted by GemitatiLol street smart does help but if you have both it's a deadly combination.Posted by EvoxxxscorpioI've seen those without but I get you as well. Have to be lucky if you don't have papers and having bosses really value your work!Posted by Gemitatilol you still need both but I get you.Posted by FrogPrinceShe seems like a person who if confronted will laugh in his face!
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
When I am made look bad in front of anybody - I wouldn't keep silent.
Why would anyone be intimidated by person with 'less credentials'?
Because street smart is more than diploma smart!
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Posted by Impulsv
Give an example making u look bad
If it's pointing it bussiness issues that you are responsible for?
Posted by ImpulsvIt's hard to do this without getting into details. Believe me when it's more like petty stuff that is self evident. It's like she tries to contradict me but isn't really able to...because both are correct depending on your perspective and how you're analyzing it...big picture vs. little picture type situation. I hope that makes sense.
I ask because sometimes our perspective is squewed and just trigerring out subconciousc issues
Maybe she is just a. Power player know how to play politics n rubs u the wrong way. She point out valid point about bussiness
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If it helps to clarify the situation, for example, there are times when she's presenting and I think there's more to add...but I don't say anything because it's just not my style . I feel like she just has no class...but I know my opinion is biased.
I think you're right that she's a power player. But it's not a situation that I want to be in. I just want her off my back.
Posted by GemitatiPosted by Deedee86Posted by rockyroadicecream
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
Very true. Everyone finds those types annoying. Just go about your day and pay her no mind. She will weed herself out.
Maybe at McDonalds...not in a big time companies! Different structure. Different world.click to expand
Especially in big time companies.
Nobody likes a tattle tale and a suck up.
BTW I did work at McDonald's when I was in high school. I don't remember there being any suck ups because nobody really cared about the job or advancing.
Posted by GemitatiI mean credentials as in level of education. I know because it's not a secret. We all know each other's credentials. I see what you mean about passive and aggressive. She is definitely the aggressor. I wouldn't say I'm passive. I work hard, bring up new ideas, think outside the box, do my thing.
How do you know you have more credentials?
Mind you - in the corporate world a lot of things play role except credentials.
If they see her aggressive and you as passive - that matters because people with 'whatever' attitude don't usually make it.
Corporate world is a battle field.
However I've seen people without education make it higher than those with college degree. So it's not what you have - it's who you are. And you said it yourself - you aren't ambitious. You wait for promotions while she is making it happen!
I didn't say I'm not ambitious. I am. But I don't subscribe to the idea that you have to put others down to bring yourself up. My kind of ambition is to work hard to bring myself up and helping others along the way so that we all make it to the top. They way she is..I just don't understand it.
Posted by carbonscorpNice guy what? Finish last!!!Posted by GemitatiI mean credentials as in level of education. I know because it's not a secret. We all know each other's credentials. I see what you mean about passive and aggressive. She is definitely the aggressor. I wouldn't say I'm passive. I work hard, bring up new ideas, think outside the box, do my thing.
How do you know you have more credentials?
Mind you - in the corporate world a lot of things play role except credentials.
If they see her aggressive and you as passive - that matters because people with 'whatever' attitude don't usually make it.
Corporate world is a battle field.
However I've seen people without education make it higher than those with college degree. So it's not what you have - it's who you are. And you said it yourself - you aren't ambitious. You wait for promotions while she is making it happen!
I didn't say I'm not ambitious. I am. But I don't subscribe to the idea that you have to put others down to bring yourself up. My kind of ambition is to work hard to bring myself up and helping others along the way so that we all make it to the top. They way she is..I just don't understand it.
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How exactly is she putting you down? Can you give an example?
Posted by FrogPrinceI don't know why she started acting shady. It cam out of left field. I was shocked when it initially happened and thought it was nothing, she was having a bad day, etc. But then it kept happening.
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
I don't know if she's more ambitious. I think we're all ambitious there. But her kind of ambitiousness - trying to put others down to get herself up - is not my style . I don't have a problem with her fighting for her place. But I do have a problem with her taking jabs at me while she climbs.
I don't want to confront her. I also don't know if she's a libra.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamThanks for the encouragement. She is really getting me down...to the point where I hope she looks bad to our bosses.... But then when I think that way, it makes me feel a different kind of bad, to wish ill upon a person. :/
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
Posted by GemitatiI get along well with others and I think everyone has a positive opinion of me. I really don't have a problem with anyone but her.Posted by rockyroadicecreamDoes she care?
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
Are you loved by anybody?
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Posted by carbonscorpNice guy what? Finish last!!!Posted by GemitatiI mean credentials as in level of education. I know because it's not a secret. We all know each other's credentials. I see what you mean about passive and aggressive. She is definitely the aggressor. I wouldn't say I'm passive. I work hard, bring up new ideas, think outside the box, do my thing.
How do you know you have more credentials?
Mind you - in the corporate world a lot of things play role except credentials.
If they see her aggressive and you as passive - that matters because people with 'whatever' attitude don't usually make it.
Corporate world is a battle field.
However I've seen people without education make it higher than those with college degree. So it's not what you have - it's who you are. And you said it yourself - you aren't ambitious. You wait for promotions while she is making it happen!
I didn't say I'm not ambitious. I am. But I don't subscribe to the idea that you have to put others down to bring yourself up. My kind of ambition is to work hard to bring myself up and helping others along the way so that we all make it to the top. They way she is..I just don't understand it.
How exactly is she putting you down? Can you give an example?
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Nice guys finish last.. I didn't think that phrase would ever apply to me but I guess I'm learning. But I don't want to change who I am.
''How exactly is she putting you down? Can you give an example?"
It's hard to do this without getting into details. Believe me when it's more like petty stuff that is self evident. It's like she tries to contradict me but isn't really able to...because both are correct depending on your perspective and how you're analyzing it...big picture vs. little picture type situation. I hope that makes sense.
If it helps to clarify the situation, for example, there are times when she's presenting and I think there's more to add...but I don't say anything because it's just not my style . I feel like she just has no class...but I know my opinion is biased.
Posted by GemitatiThat's the thing...does she really have less credentials? I mean OP even admitted some of her corrections during the meetings were about things he forgot or didn't mention. It seems to me that she kind of has both. But confronting her would at least make her or guilt tripping her would at least cause some damage on her. The problem is...she's a Libra female. Libra females can be a**holes, but tend to retreat when confronted (contrary to libra males).Posted by FrogPrinceShe seems like a person who if confronted will laugh in his face!
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
When I am made look bad in front of anybody - I wouldn't keep silent.
Why would anyone be intimidated by person with 'less credentials'?
Because street smart is more than diploma smart!
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We are career oriented, and friendly in the same time. We behave the same. Good friends at work, but you must do your job. Slight manipulators. Bluntly speaking the truth. She meant no harm. She is your co-worker and friend. Do not overthink. Speak honestly to each other and gain a friend, not an enemy.
Posted by carbonscorpOh!Posted by FrogPrinceI don't know why she started acting shady. It cam out of left field. I was shocked when it initially happened and thought it was nothing, she was having a bad day, etc. But then it kept happening.
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
I don't know if she's more ambitious. I think we're all ambitious there. But her kind of ambitiousness - trying to put others down to get herself up - is not my style . I don't have a problem with her fighting for her place. But I do have a problem with her taking jabs at me while she climbs.
I don't want to confront her. I also don't know if she's a libra.
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I'm sorry! I thought she was a Libra and that's why you posted this here.
I'd say it depends also on how she's seen in the company. I mean if she has many supporters the best to do is ignore her and occasionally jab her too. Correct her once during a meeting or try to uncorrect her: For an example when she points out obvious things just for the sake of it - say it! "Oh thank you, yeah, I just didn't mention it 'cause I thought all of us would get it!" No one likes a picker! Start doing the same...suck up a bit more to the bosses, stand out more, talk to more people, be more sociable so people kind of get to know her. Have you thought that maybe she's not the only person she's jabbing? Maybe there are others who experienced the same you did.
Posted by FrogPrinceBy credentials I mean level of education and yes, she has less, no one in the company would argue that. I'm not saying she doesn't know what she's talking about. She clearly reads and studies her stuff.Posted by GemitatiThat's the thing...does she really have less credentials? I mean OP even admitted some of her corrections during the meetings were about things he forgot or didn't mention. It seems to me that she kind of has both. But confronting her would at least make her or guilt tripping her would at least cause some damage on her. The problem is...she's a Libra female. Libra females can be a**holes, but tend to retreat when confronted (contrary to libra males).Posted by FrogPrinceShe seems like a person who if confronted will laugh in his face!
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
When I am made look bad in front of anybody - I wouldn't keep silent.
Why would anyone be intimidated by person with 'less credentials'?
Because street smart is more than diploma smart!
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She doesn't say things I forgot. I wouldn't mind it so much then (at least I don't think). But rather, she says things I intentionally left out either because it's blantantly obvious or doesn't pertain to the subject matter. For example, she might say something that's technically and generally correct but bears no importance to the point I'm making. So then I can't refute her but at the same time, I'm think, "what??..um, okay..." And it's annoying as fu*ck. I hope that makes sense.
She's not a libra. I don't remember her sign...but I remember when she told me her bday (this is when we first met), I remember thinking oh...I've had bad experiences with these people. I think maybe she's a gem? But I'm really not sure now.
Posted by FrogPrinceI don't know if she has a lot of supporters. I think the bosses see her as a good employee. Among the people at our level, she's most friendly with the brown nosers.Posted by carbonscorpOh!Posted by FrogPrinceI don't know why she started acting shady. It cam out of left field. I was shocked when it initially happened and thought it was nothing, she was having a bad day, etc. But then it kept happening.
Hmmm...
First of all I wonder how far is she trying to put you down/ make look bad. I mean you're a Scorpio, you think everyone is after you...so, honestly I won't take that seriously at that point.
Secondly, why did she start to act shady towards you? Did you do something to make her look shady? Did you try to take advantage of her or manipulate her? 'Cause Libras are somehow insecure...they know they have hard times saying "NO" so they are constantly looking for people that are willing to take advantage of them.
Maybe she's more ambitious and just looked at you as dead lift and tried to discard you. She's fighting for her place in the company nad has her right to do it.
My advice is to confront her...but gently. None of the Scorpio agressiveness and intensity. Talk to her calmly...Libras are idealists and will respect you to open your "hearth" to them, they won't cross you since they wouldn't want you to do it (but she's a female and female Libras can be quite bitchy...). Tell that you felt that and you even might get her friendship back. If that doesn't work simply ignore her. Don't try to belittle her in fornt of your bosses since she'll be the one well seen (that Libra charm is tough to tackle).
I don't know if she's more ambitious. I think we're all ambitious there. But her kind of ambitiousness - trying to put others down to get herself up - is not my style . I don't have a problem with her fighting for her place. But I do have a problem with her taking jabs at me while she climbs.
I don't want to confront her. I also don't know if she's a libra.
I'm sorry! I thought she was a Libra and that's why you posted this here.
I'd say it depends also on how she's seen in the company. I mean if she has many supporters the best to do is ignore her and occasionally jab her too. Correct her once during a meeting or try to uncorrect her: For an example when she points out obvious things just for the sake of it - say it! "Oh thank you, yeah, I just didn't mention it 'cause I thought all of us would get it!" No one likes a picker! Start doing the same...suck up a bit more to the bosses, stand out more, talk to more people, be more sociable so people kind of get to know her. Have you thought that maybe she's not the only person she's jabbing? Maybe there are others who experienced the same you did.click to expand
''Correct her once during a meeting or try to uncorrect her.." I've done that before. I would reply, "yes, obviously xyz." I think if she actually said something I didn't know, I would be so bothered. It's that she says things that's just unnecessary...like she talks for the sake of talking and showing her knowledge.
I've seen her do it to other people..but maybe not as often? I might have recall bias though. :/
*wouldn't be so bothered
Posted by GemitatiYour inane drivel is boring and sad. Go be a bored old whore somewhere else. Kthx.Posted by rockyroadicecreamDoes she care?
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
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Posted by Deedee86Yeeep.Posted by rockyroadicecream
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
Very true. Everyone finds those types annoying. Just go about your day and pay her no mind. She will weed herself out.
Posted by carbonscorpAll you can do is keep your nose clean and worry about you. If you're doing everything right and they have nothing on you for her to prey on, she's going to get hers in the end. People like her usually do.Posted by rockyroadicecreamThanks for the encouragement. She is really getting me down...to the point where I hope she looks bad to our bosses.... But then when I think that way, it makes me feel a different kind of bad, to wish ill upon a person. :/
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
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Posted by rockyroadicecreamIt doesn't answer my question...?Posted by GemitatiYour inane drivel is boring and sad. Go be a bored old whore somewhere else. Kthx.Posted by rockyroadicecreamDoes she care?
They see through her bs. I wouldn't stress over it. I work with one of those types and she's not exactly well liked by most people I work with.
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