Libra men

I just reconnected with a Libra man I use to date and we are just friends. We hung out a couple of times as just friends and we both admitted that we still have feelings for each other. The only problem is he has a girlfriend and she is 15 years older than him. He told me that he didn't think it was not going to work out and that he feels like he can't be himself with her. He told me that everything is so easy with me and also that he loves me. I told him that I have missed him and thought of him but nothing could happen while he was still involve with her. He said that he is not willing to walk away from her yet( by the way I did not ask him too) and that he is attached to her son and vice versa. I told him that it would be best for us not to communicate because we have this crazy chemistry and when we our around each other its undeniable. So I guess I am wondering if he is being honest with me about loving me ? He told me that he saved all my emails from before and that he feels like I just get him. Are Libra men known to be indecisive ? I guess I don't really understand why he would stay with her if he is not happy. Also he wants children and she is already 44...just doesn't make sense to me.

If he says he loves you, he does. Did he say he was "in love" with you and wanted a relationship with you. Librans love on many levels, it is best to know which level of love he has for you. Also, he isn't ready to leave his current girlfriend, so, he isn't emotionally available. So, I think you did a great job of not continuing the friendship with all the emotions. It is hard to break away from these guys because they won't let you completely...

What is your sign?

Well I am a sag, and I probably need to mention the reason why we stop dating is because I found out he had a girlfriend . He was seeing me for 6 months while he was supposely committed to her. He said that he wanted to tell me so many times but had fallen for her and myself, she is also a sag. I am really over that situation and not angry at all anymore...we didn't speak for 7 months after that and just recently reconnected. He has never told me he is in love but just mentioned for the first time that he loved me when I told him that I couldn't hang out anymore.

Well this sounds all too familiar. (all except the other woman). Actually, I don't know that there is or there isn't another woman in my similar scenario. I believe my Libra when he says there is not. But it would explain a lot of his disappearances if there was and his need for privacy.

The thing is QS handed you some great advise. TAKE QS's ADVISE!!!

I know from this same experience that he will come back to find you and feel pulled to you stronger and stronger because you are being logical and smart (very smart) to resist and to keep your distance and just be friends. I would not doubt it if he eventually tells you he is leaving her and whatever else he knows you want to hear just to get you to accept his terms and be with him.

If you agree to having a relationship with him you need to stand firm on the breakoff with his other girlfriend and only get involved after you KNOW it is over for them. But you'd better keep in mind, as QS said, *they don't let go of people easily.** There will probably always be a strong attachment to the other woman too for him. Can you handle that? Also, keep in mind that if he cheated on her to be with you........one day he will cheat on you to be with someone else too. Can you handle that?

I think you are a very smart woman and if you keep things in perspective you will make the right choices for YOU. It is painfully hard to let go of the things you imagine for yourself and him. But until they become a reality they are only a dream. Don't get so caught up in the dream you lose yourself along the way. If you have expectations with this guy and a future together, be ready for a lot of disappointment and heartache when those expectations aren't met.

As you know,there is another woman involved and a child. He has been open and up front with you about it and that is what you too must consider. If you choose to get involved it won't be just with him. It will be with the woman and her child too as things (situations) begin to play out. Can you handle that?

Be smart. Be strong. Be true to yourself.
((((((A BIG hug)))))

I agree totally with your statements and I know that I did the right thing..I do get caught up in the dream sometimes and have to force myself to accept the reality but I think I'm there. We just fit so well together and it does make me sad that we can't explore those feelings but I will stay strong and not succumb to those feelings. I agree that they have a way of not completely letting you go because when we hung out it was like we were never apart.

He is the only Libra that I know ..so I am not sure what his traits are but I usually attract aquarius and they seem similar.

BTW, I know a few libra men (including my ex husban and a very dear friend) who were in very seriuos relationships with Sag women, there is definitely a strong connection betweent the two signs. My friend, dated 3 Sag's in a row and it was until I brought it to his attention he didn't even notice the similarities. He probably love you both, just on different levels. Not good, break away. He is clearly not emotionally available.

Rushing to a meeting my spelling is screwed. Sorry.

***one thing that i have not heard regarding libra men, which is a very common thing with them, is that they are known to be cheaters (womanizers so to speak)...and very good and secretive about it. ***

As a lot of males, I believe this to be true with SOME libras, my friend for example is one. However I know a couple who are pretty faithful and straight forward when they have a partner " that is right for them". I never suspected my ex hubby of cheating (ya neva know) but I am pretty keen on these things, as I knew my ex fiance (Pisces) was, but never caught him. My ex hubby was crazy about me though... We were inseperable for a very long time. It eventually ended we grew far apart and ended up wanting different things and couldn't quite get back to the way we were, so I filed for divorce 😢

All Libra men are flirts by nature though, but so are most libra women I know, they don't always act on it though.

ok....what's interesting though is that when we first started dating he played this song for me and the song is about a women writing her wedding vows and talking about her soon to be husband . He told me last week that he hasn't played it since we had stopped talking and that song is our song....the title is "Your The Other Half That Makes Me Whole" I do feel he knows me better than any man i have dated and I have shared more with him than anyone. It just sucks that the timing isn't right.

Well, to my mind, he has no right to go around talking about "our song" when he's dating another woman.

Yes, Libra men are charming and have a way of sugar-coating reality -- but the reality is, he's taken.

If I were you, I would enjoy the attention, but keep looking around -- and let him know this. After all, that's what he's doing to you.

he "loves" you, yet he has chosen to lie, cheat, and manipulate you and the other women? why would you want to be with someone who OOPS wanted to tell you he was seeing someone but didn't and OOPS again, he is dating someone else after that relationship fell through?

If you were the one he wanted to be in love with, he'd chosen you already and keep you on the back burner to fill his need that supposedly these other women he's dating aren't. Why be his doormat twice?

*he'd chosen you already and NOT keep you on the back burner....


that's what i meant to type the first time.

I know that I made the right decision to walk away....thanks for the advice guys

"They get offended very easily"

*Sigh* Don't I know it? I work with a female Libra who almost left our team because another team member pissed her off just by existing and breathing the air! I, being the boss, have to love everyone -- not too hard for me, as I am understanding (I hope!)-- but I try not to let Lady Libra see me like this other team member TOO much -- the way she is behaving isn't "fair", she says (Exact words!)

OMG yes I know about them taking offence!! Boy can they dish it out though!!

Mine took offence a week ago....he said "there is no chance of keeping in touch now" after I told him a few home truths about how he has been behaving and how he treats other people, yada yada...yes he needed it and Im sure he's taken it on board 😛.....I did explain to him in a nicer way what I meant and said if he no longer wanted to be friends that it was HIS choice but my preference was to remain friends but I could live without it but I was not going to "play tit for tat in regards to who took offence to what" hehehehe, and his response you ask?? "ok I may have jumped the gun earlier today and let's not get ahead of ourselves with the friends bit...lets see what happens in time"...WHATEVER!!!!!!! He'll be back, Im not stupid but jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze@how easily he was going to throw it away....jerk!!! Love him to bits though LMAO

Yes they can be heartless, ruthless even....I just gave it back for a change 🙂

Im sure he has forgiven you though....aren't Librans the sign of peace/forgiveness/emotions/love, etc, etc?? hehehe

IrishLibra, I don't know why but I get the feeling that she is giving him money or something...

I know I can't analyze it to death...that is a bad habit of mine...Its not mean't for me to figure it out.

*** think that the one thing that makes them go round and round is that they both want security (emotional and otherwise) from the other, but air and water do not provide the security that say earth signs do. the immense attraction is there, the emotionalism, the wanting to connect....but, someone has to be the grounded one!!✨**

Irishlibra, this is very interesting about libra/scorp. I must admit there are quite a few similarities between the two.

Librans are VERY sensitive, but like you all said they will try and mask it. They dish out WAAAYYY more than they can accept, especially the guys... Like Chatz, you have to let them know from time to time their behaviour is unacceptable or they will continue to behave in the manner they are behaving.

My boyfriend doesn't get controlling or angry when something makes him sensitive. Instead, he'll probe for details. He'll hint that he wants to know more information.

For instance, when we had been dating for 3 months or so, I told him that I was still friends with my ex-boyfriend. He didn't seem put off by that in person, but that night I got an email from him that said something to the effect of "I know it's none of my business, but I was wondering where you and your ex still stood. I know he's your ex, but is there a chance of reconciliation?" He went onto to say "I know we haven't been dating that long, so it's your business on what you decide...."

That email was written 6 months ago, so can't remember verbatim what he said, but that's a good recall of it. He acts as if something doesn't bother him, but then maybe a few days later, he'll bring it up again, kinda as matter-of-fact. It's subtle, too. You can totally miss what he's doing because he just works it into the conversation.

I really don't find libra men being controlling, wanting their way a lot of the time, but controling and angry... nah, can't say that I can. Scorp men - definitely controling.

***That email was written 6 months ago, so can't remember verbatim what he said, but that's a good recall of it. He acts as if something doesn't bother him, but then maybe a few days later, he'll bring it up again, kinda as matter-of-fact.***

I find this to be true with every libra man I have been involved with. Subtle probers. LOL!!!

first of all,hello,i'm in trouble,myself,with a libra man,we r toghether since february,but it's a secret relationship,i'm married and he's my lover,so to speak,well,it was all good,we were seeing eachother more,first,all i wanted in the begining was to have sex,cause i felt some misterious/strange attraction towards him,i said it from the begining that i want to have sex with him,he wanted to get to know eachother better,so,we did,we went out a few times,and we used to talk online for hours,he's a strange guy,he needs time to be alone,i understood that too,i never asked him to be faithfull or something,all i asked was not to know about anyone in his life.Well,that was our deal,untill a month ago,when i sensed something changed about him,and i asked him,he didn't wanted to say anything first,he said he wanted to say it when we were face to face,but i managed to make him spill the beans,he said he found someone else there,and he's meeting her more often(we don't live in the same city),and he asked me what do i want to be,his friend,his colegue(we r in the same class at the university)or his lover.Of course i said i want to be his friend(i'm a virgo,with aries moon and rising leo)cause i don't do second best stuff.Well,after two days,he came back,sayng that he lied about the other girl,but the distance is killing him,and not beeing able to see me when he wants makes him not want this,but still,he can't let go,cause he cares so much about me,he cares so much that it makes him want to lock me in a room so he would have me only for him(so he said,it doesn't make it real,right?).I met him one more time,since then,we had sex and i realized,by the way he acted,that he does have somebody else.I've felt it,and i do trust my intuition.Now,i don't know,he might have been lieing cause we have amaizing sex toghether(i have venus in scorpio,his venus is in libra)

Anyway,since then,i've changed my net hours,i'm not available for him at any given hour,like i used to be ,and i was colder ,and he wasn't warm,either,he dissapeared for a week,but i didn't texted him or anything,and,one night i got a private number call,from some anonymus,beeing rude,but not obscene,and i recognized the vocabulary,i'm sure it was one of his friends.I guess i've pissed him off.Anyway,i don't know what to do,a part of me wants revenge,cause he didn't have to lie to me,another part wants to know the truth,what and how he feels.How can u get a libra men to speak his mind?

***Anyway,i don't know what to do,a part of me wants revenge,cause he didn't have to lie to me,another part wants to know the truth,what and how he feels.How can u get a libra men to speak his mind***

Why do you want revenge? You are married so you can't be his (you are just cheating on your husband with him) - He has the right to be with whomever he wants, you are not in a relationship. You are just cheating on your husband with him, which is sad. You don't have a right to say anything about who he is with. You could actually be 2nd, 3rd, 4rth or 5th.

Yap,i cheat on my husband,that it's true,but all this started in a very black period of my marriage,first of all i have to say i'm 26,and my husband is 3 years older than me,he's a taurus,and we r toghether for 7 years,and i realized that my husband played with my life,and controlled me in ways i never knew,and the drop that filled the glass was when he told me he wanted a kid,so he'll be sure i'll never leave him.I knew the other guy for about 2 years,he was in my class,and the attraction was there from the first day we've met,but i didn't do anything about it,out of love and respect for my husband,and he didn't do anything,cause i was a married woman.I started this when I was very dissapointed on my husband,and it helped me a lot,it made me feel free and it was just what i need it.I know i sound selfish,maybe i am,but in those 7 years,i gave my heart mind and body to my husband,and he took it for granted.Anyway,back to what i was sayng,i never told the other guy to be faithfull to me,all i ever wanted was not to know about any other girls in his life,this is why i say he lied to me.

***Yap,i cheat on my husband,that it's true,but all this started in a very black period of my marriage,first of all i have to say i'm 26,and my husband is 3 years older than me,he's a taurus,and we r toghether for 7 years,and i realized that my husband played with my life,and controlled me in ways i never knew,and the drop that filled the glass was when he told me he wanted a kid,so he'll be sure i'll never leave him.****

Then get divorced!

*** in those 7 years,i gave my heart mind and body to my husband,and he took it for granted***

Same thing happened to me with my Libra husband, hence now divorcing him.

***Anyway,back to what i was sayng,i never told the other guy to be faithfull to me,all i ever wanted was not to know about any other girls in his life,this is why i say he lied to me.***

Why? He doesn't owe that to you.

BTW, he knows you are married, why should he hide that he is seeing others? Isn't fair to him. He doesn't have to do this anyway.

2510, I have no sympathy for you. What you have is not trouble, but rather a sense of stupidity and disrespect. Your "lover" (he doesn't love you) is not commited to you, so I think it's absolutely dangerous and disrespectful to put you and your husband's health in jeopardy. I don't care if you come back and say you have used condoms with him; there are other ways you are infecting your marriage.

if your Taurus husband has drained you for the last 7 years, there is a simple solution: divorce him. Unless you're relying on HIS security and HIS financial stability, then it's you who is being selfish and taking your husband for granted.

This guy doesn't need to tell you who else he's seeing. You're being a hypocrite. If you expect your lover to tell you who he's seeing, isn't it fair that you in turn tell YOUR HUSBAND who you're seeing?

I was waiting for HP or LS, to respond to this. Well done.

well,i know that this is not going to put me in a good light,but i did this,and i gotta say it,well,i lied to the other man,sayng that i'm getting divorced,when ,in fact,i didn't,altough i tried to,i even told my husband to go away,cause we r living in my apartment,but he just didn't wanted to go,he was with his luggage at the door,but he wouldn't leave,so i decided to give him another chance,because i really thought he loves me,i can feel that he does,but the way he loves me it's not what i need,i don't know if i am making myself clear,i need my freedom,and,for 7 years i was his toy,i gave up friendhips he didn't approved,i've changed myself ,in good ,in some ways,that it's true,but i had to give up some parts of me,and i woke up one day tryng to remember when it was the last time i smiled or laughed from my heart,and it's sad to be like that when u r 26.Anyway,i lied to the other man,cause he once sayd that we have to break up,untill i'm not married anymore,and i didn't wanted to lose him,cause i never felt before like the way he makes me feel.libra men r dangerous,they build u up,and then they let u down and build u up and u go down again,like in some kind of twisted rollercoaster of feelings.I know that this is not an excuse,but i was and i still am a junkie,when it comes to him.well,he didn't have to lie,cause i told him that i don't care if he is seeing other people ,just that i don't want to know.So,he told me he is seeing someone more often,and that's why he is colder ,so i said,ok,let's be friends,then,and i was not available to him like i used to be,i was hurt,and then he came back,after 2 days of spyng on me on the mess(i have buddycheck,and i used to know when he was online,and he used to come online on the invisible)and asked me to go back with him,like we used to do,i told him that if he wants,i can write a book with some sex tricks,so his girlfriend can learn some stuff,and ,this way he won't need me anymore(cause i've felt like he treated me like a piece of ass,and i told him so)than,after another 2 days,he told me that he lied ,he doesn't have a girlfriend,cause ,if he did,he wouldn't be at home,everyday (and he was a lot on the mess,it's true)but he told me this cause this is not an easy relationship,it's hard for him not beeing able to see me every day and when he wants,cause we don't live in the same city.we went out for another 2 times,but ,the second time,when we were toghether in bed,i realized he does have somebody.

boo f*cking hoo.

well,about my husband,i don't relly on his money,but we've been toghether for a lot of time,and he sayd that if i'm leaving him,he would be devastated,like he was when his father died,he has only me and his brother ,now,cause his mom died when he was in the military school,then ,after 3 years,his dad died.I told him i want a divorce,and he said,let's go,first,and then, after i've looked for the marriage licence and some other papers,he just went in the bedroom ,and said that he's not going.Maybe i do relly on his stability ,as a husband,he has stabillity,in relationships,that is very true.If i'll tell him that i'm seeing someone else ,i'll end up in a hospital,he hit me ,and i know that my first and biggest mistake was giving him another chance,after the first slap,i know that that was dumb,but we got married in february,and in the summer,he slapped me for the first time.We lived toghether for 2 years,before getting married,and i thought i knew him.I'm from romania,and here,it's not such a big thing if the man hits his wife or whatever,but i have a different oppinion.I know how i sound,lieing to both of them,but i did tried to get my husband out of my life,sometimes he seems to be listening to my reasons,and sometimes he says that he'll kill me,if he sees me with another.I didn't told him that i am seeing somebody else ,but he said that i'll never be with somebody else .I don't think that he will kill me,but i'll end up in the hospital,for sure.Anyway,he got physical with me a lot,and a friend of mine told me that it's no use in having fights and getting beat,when i can act a little bit,sayng like him,but doing things my way,untill i have a solution.And she was right,cause when i startted compromising,things changed,but i can't make him go to get help,from a specialist,cause this is the main reason all of this has happened.I told him we have to go to marriage counceling,and he said no.I wanted to go ,cause,everytime we have fights,he can't controll himself,he's always agressive,even if he's not slapping me,he's pushing me on the bed or in some piece of furniture.He wants kids,and i didn't wanted to get pregnant,with the risk of him agressing me and the kid,cause when i was a kid,my dad did this to my mom.I guess that nobody understands what i've said here,but i'll try to rephrase it.

and to houstonpeach74:am I wrong,or u've just called me a ho?well,if i'm right,let me tell u something: first of all,a ho,in my book is a girl that turns tricks for money,wich i'm pretty sure i'm not,and second,if a ho is somebody that gets what she needs from somebody else,a kind word,affection,a little tendernesse,then i might be a ho.You know,there is a very smart sayng... don't judge a man untill u've walked a mile in his shoes...think about it 😉

never called you a ho, sweetie.

sometimes, however, our guilty consciences do silly things to our ways of thinking. 🙂

It's not my conscience,it's my poor english,i think,sry,i didn't wanted to offend u,but can u please translate what u said,cause i couldn't understand,and i thought that the double o from "hoo" was a typing error.i'm sry if i was wrong.

So ,anyway,what should i do ,to find out the truth,is my libra guy just playng or is it more?Cause he's jealous,but is that sayng that he cares?He's playng mind games,that's for sure,this is the only thing that i am sure of.

* I work with a female Libra who almost left our team because another team member pissed her off just by existing and breathing the air!

I can guarantee there was way more to it than that. There was definetly something she saw that maybe you didn't. We see and know a hell of a lot more than you think.

* the way she is behaving isn't "fair", she says (Exact words!)

There you go. There was something going on that you are unaware of.

* of "I know it's none of my business, but I was wondering where you and your ex still stood. I know he's your ex, but is there a chance of reconciliation?" He went onto to say "I know we haven't been dating that long, so it's your business on what you decide...."


That is exactly how I would handle it. I don't like prying into people. It seems disrespectful. I generally will think or try to think the best and find out the truth to put my mind at rest.

* .He wants kids,and i didn't wanted to get pregnant,

Please don't have babies with this man.

Honey,

You already know the answers. The libra is a good distraction because you can focus on him instead of focusing on how unhappy your marriage is. You know you have to leave your husband. You know deep down to the core of your being and it scares you. Big changes are scarey.

But being brave means you do the right thing even though you are scared.

The issue isn't with your Libra lover. (He isn't a great guy either by the way.) The issue is you have to make a change and you want security to make that change. So you are clinging onto the Libra guy.

You need to leave your husband honey. You need a fresh start.

***i lied to the other man,sayng that i'm getting divorced,when ,in fact,i didn't,altough i tried to,i even told my husband to go away,cause we r living in my apartment,but he just didn't wanted to go,he was with his luggage at the door,but he wouldn't leave,so i decided to give him another chance,because i really thought he loves me***

You lied to him, but you don't want him to lie to you? If you want a divorce from your husband there are steps and legal procedures to do so. You haven't tried.


*** cause i've felt like he treated me like a piece of ass,and i told him so)***

That is basically all you are to him.

***he told me this cause this is not an easy relationship***

There is no relationship. Booty call, infadelity, but not a relationship.

***If i'll tell him that i'm seeing someone else ,i'll end up in a hospital,he hit me ,and i know that my first and biggest mistake was giving him another chance,after the first slap***

There is no excuse for abuse. This is definitely Legal grounds for divorce as well. So, just do it!

***I wrong,or u've just called me a ho?well,if i'm right,let me tell u something: first of all,a ho,in my book is a girl that turns tricks for money,wich i'm pretty sure i'm not,and second,if a ho is somebody that gets what she needs from somebody else,a kind word,affection,a little tendernesse***

I would think it is cheaper to do it without getting paid. Seriously... You are a booty call to him, nothing more. All you have is sex and lies between you. No relationship can grow from that.

***So ,anyway,what should i do ,to find out the truth,is my libra guy just playng or is it more?***

Stop wondering. There is no more to have.

Yap,u r right about the sex and lies thing,thank u very much.I lied,he lied too,and there was sex.From now on i will just ignore him,and i'll get on with my life,but i don't know how to act if he's going to come back,i don't want him or his sweet lies back in my life,and every time one of us called it off,he was the one that came back.I don't want to end it in a bad way,i wish we could stay friends,but right now i'm wondering if we were ever friends.It's more like we were f***k buddies.Anyway,,thank u very much cause u've opened my eyes,and,btw,i'm not as cheap as i sound lol(i never thought that i would write such a thing about myself).

***I don't want to end it in a bad way,i wish we could stay friends,but right now i'm wondering if we were ever friends.It's more like we were f***k buddies.***

Essentially, but sadly this is what the two of you are. You didn't start off as friends so that was never built.

This isn't good. I think you should leave your husband and take some time to restart your life and get in touch with yourself for awhile, with out relationship drama. Heal and find out what you want first. Then accept someone to share YOUR wants and desires. Not the other way around.

It has worked wonders for me as a divorce... Cheers!

Actually,first we were friends,we talked a lot about our lives,we helped eachother with advices,we used to stay online,talking,every night,for months ,from 22:00 to 2,3 a.m.,talking about music,books,life ,sex ,everything,but than it turned into some kind of sex mess,when we startedsleeping toghether ,cause we had a great chemistry,and it was hard for me to go very often in his city,we started seeing eachother twice a week,then once a week,and,after that once in two weeks.anyway,this doesn't matter anyway,i have to get on with my life,and who knows what will happen,in the future,maybe we'll have another chance in another life.I only hope he wont pull out any stunt like the one with the private number call,cause if he does,he'll get to see my other side,and it ain't pretty.Thanks a lot,again,and i hope things will go great for u too.Good luck.

oh deary me

pretty pathetic, eh Chatzy?

yes well I don't have time for people who get themselves involved with people who are already in r/ships/marriages or be the one who is the cheater. It always catches up and it always ends in disaster and somebody ALWAYS gets hurt.

I just shake my head!!!

The same could also be said about FWB r/ships....one or the other normally gets attached....Librans may be able to not ever get attached but their partner normally does. I think people who only want FWB need to make it perfectly clear of what their intentions or lack thereof are so they are all on the same page and perhaps re-iterate it from time to time 🙂