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Libragirl
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Phoenix,
You are funny! Dont worry about the bad mood thing, i didnt pick any of that up and as for being politically correct, who cares about that... People can be a..holes no matter who they are, male or female 🙂

Hmm, funny you should ask about the dating. Ive been in a quandry lately and have realised i am one of those people who runs away at the slightest sign of committment although all i really want is someone to ask me out properly. Well, that happened on the weekend but im yet to return the call due to being a little evasive, being busy and procrastinating...

I think the reason i am shy in the love department (and i haven't always been like this) is my venus in virgo. I might be making up excuses for myself but i doubt it. A few years ago i just changed, Ive now realised what i want. I want an someone to to ask me out properly and i want a relationship that is not based solely on sex. I want someone i am extremely attracted to on all levels.

There is so much to tell but i haven't really got time to do it now. You think your life is a drama! I won't have time to get into the dramatics of it all until mid november but anyway...

My advice to you and you can accept it, reject it or put it in a pipe and smoke it is to find your soul mate. You don't sound content with the leo guy, he seems to annoy you, which is quite funny but not a healthy way to conduct a relationship! I think you know what to do underneath it all. It never ceases to amaze me that no matter how intense scorpios can get, they still manage to remain slightly detached from their lovers. Its just an observation. Maybe if you met your soul mate however, it would be a different story. I dont know?!

Anyways, good luck with it all. Im sure you'll be fine. Dramatic relationsips are a waste of time but a necessary evil in your twenties, hahaha!

Take care my friend Phoenix and I'll speak to you soon,
Libragirl.

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phoenix_rising
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Libragirl, okay, good stuff (that you didn't pick up on my bad mood)...yay!! I've been working on not seeming too negative around other people because I noticed that lately I'd had several people tell me that I have a tendency to get negative.

Okay, now...this is funny...

"im yet to return the call due to being a little evasive, being busy and procrastinating..."

Wow, that is the story of my life Libragirl, I understand this part of you. Though our underlying reasons for this behavior could possibly be different (I'm not sure), this is something I do as well. I also agree with your theory about your Virgo Venus having something to do with that shyness you feel--definitely. My Venus is not in Virgo (it's in Sagittarius), but my Mars is in Virgo and I am convinced it has a lot to do with the way I "take action" in love situations (or don't take action, whichever way you want to see it). Libragirl, I envy you for knowing what you want--that's at least half the battle. BTW, I absolutely cannot wait until mid-november for you to talk about your dating experiences)!! : ) I'm taken with you Libragirl; I find you to be a very interesting person! I'm learning quite a lot from you, I just wanted to thank you for that.

"My advice to you and you can accept it, reject it or put it in a pipe and smoke it is to find your soul mate."

LOL...I will accept it, and why the hell not, I'll smoke it too. haha. Alas, I thought I had found my soul mate (the taurus), and now it's all falling apart at the seams. Do you think there is truth in that old saying, "there is a thin line between love and hate"? This is how I feel with him, like I'm teetering on that line constantly...he said something similar to me recently when we were fighting. You know, maybe I'll just become a nun. lol. Just kidding. On another thread, I believe on the Taurus board, I was b i t c h i n g about the fact that it seems like all my peers are getting married. I know it's lame to be jealous about that, but I am. Only a small part of me is happy for them (particularly because most of them are ex's of mine). What can I do about it? Nothing. I must accept that this kind of thing is going to start happening as time goes on...it's just an odd feeling...I now for the first time in my life understand totally that scene in "when harry met sally" when sally is crying about her ex getting married, even though she doesn't want to be with him, she is depressed...it's weird.

Well I hope everything in Australia is good. lol. What a strange thing to say. Well you know what I mean. I hope you're well, talk to you later : )

Thanks again for your very interesting insights Libragirl!
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Hello Bella! : )

Gosh...you really had a pretty picture of me and my Leo? I'm suprised...I usually come here to vent about him. lol. To be honest, at the root of it all, the cause of all my crap right now is more me than anyone else. I can't blame it on him, or the Taurus. After all, I am the one with the strange need to keep them both in my life. lol. Don't really worry about personal questions with me, bella...on these boards I'm pretty much open to talking about anything. Hope all is well with you, I've only had time/emotional stability enough to sporadically post on this site lately--I also haven't felt in a good position to give anyone else advice in the last few weeks...so don't feel like I'm ignoring you if I don't give advice or whatever...just throwing that out there! 😛

Talk to you later 🙂
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Since everyone has been talking about love dilemas, i thought I may as well throw mine into the mix.

Libragirl, my request for advice is primarily directed at you and I'm not sure if you'll be able to provide any insight, however......I've fallen in lust with my SES (State Emergency Services) Training Instructor and I have no idea whether or not she's gay. I haven't had this problem in before as I've met past girlfriends in gay bars or through friends and sexual orientation has always been fairly obvious.

So......I have no idea how to tactfully broach the subject? Do I casually slip it into conversation eg. "I want to do my chainsaw proficiency course next month and are you a lesbian?" Do I smile and stare a lot and risk looking like a creepy weirdo?

Usually there'd also be some outward indicator, but at SES, everyone wears overalls...mmmmmm...overalls...

I've got no idea what to do LOL and I'm going insane wondering!
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Ok, im back and as you can see i haven't even bothered to call. Who am i trying to kid? I just dont feel 'right' about it right now, i dont know if im making up excuses but it just doesnt feel....right right now.

Well, anyway, Phoenix, im sorry to hear your love thing with the taurus has all fallen apart at the seams, its a shame but scorpio women, they love that 'hard work'! I was reading your post to Bella and i can understand your feelings about wanting to get married and feeling left out; its perfectly natural. My sister and i go through the same thing all the time. I feel sorry for her because she had the love of her life when she was 19-20 and it ended. She was going through a bit of a crisis the other day over it but i think now she has let it go due to the crisis being a carthatic kind of thing. I think she is going to meet another guy, i can feel it. It gets a little more serious when you get older because children and the biological clock come into it. When you get into your thirties you realise you might not have much time and for me, there would be nothing sadder than my sister, or any girl i knew who wanted to have children, to miss out. I have accepted that i probably wont but i am still not 100% happy with the situation. Anyway, that's for another post on another day!

After reading your post ive realised that what i said about soul mates was ridiculous, i mean there is no proof that they exist. I dont mean to sound like a hypocrit but its just occured to me that you could spend your whole life waiting for a 'soulmate' and let a great opportunity for love pass you by. Im beginning to think that we place our hopes 'out there' in the cosmos and we think that love exists 'out there' instead of infront of us. Ive been waiting for my soulmate all my life and guess what? He/she is still not here but i have lots of wonderful people around me 🙂

The question is: "is there really some 'one' OUT THERE for us? Or should we make the most of what is going on around us on right here, right now?" Something has just changed inside me, its like all of a sudden i believe in the physical realm instead of the cosmic.

Now, on the other hand, i just have to say, when i was younger i was with a person i was extremely connected to and the first time we kissed it felt 'so right', i remember thinking, 'oh, there you are', and i didnt even mean to, it was just like a reaction. We still share a special bond even now and although its over, and it is over (!), ive still enjoyed lots of other experiences. I suppose what i am trying to say is that lurrrve comes when you least expect it. I'm not sure about the 'soul mate' thing but i believe in 'special bonds', although maybe not on the cosmic level, i dont know.... Now i feel like a real hypocrit but i think i was using the 'soul mate' as a substitute for 'finding someone special, who you connect with and with whom it feels right with on every level'.

I think maybe its also because i have just recieved a letter from someone who thinks "we knew each other in a past life", and its put me off. I swear, if someone i hardly knows trys the, "we knew each other in a past life", thing on me again i think I'll puke. This is probably not what you want to hear right now and i realise ive totally negated what i said in my last post but maybe this is a more adequate explanation about what i really wanted to say.

So we'll just substitute the 'soul mate' thing for 'someone special' shall we?

Ive just talked myself into the ground and that's without even answering Corticas question! I could go on but i wont.

"Do you think there is truth in that old saying, "there is a thin line between love and hate"?"

-Im getting really good at cutting and pasting these quote things! Phoenix, i am going to think about this one and get back to you. I cant afford to write another essay tonight! But it is an interesting
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Libragirl
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Ok, this is my last post, i feel like a psycho but i have all these questions to answer...

Cortica,
This is an interesting question, how do you know if someone's gay? I wish i knew the answer to that. Sometime i will meet someone and think, "they're gay", even though they appear to be straight and i must admit, i am right about 85% of the time. I always bare in mind, however, that it could be 'wishful thinking', especially if i am attracted to them in some way. I try to avoid forming attractions unless i know i have a 'chance' of some sort though...

Here's what i think you SHOULDN'T do for a start (it helps you decide what you SHOULD DO!):

1. Dont come on strong and assume that because you've been looking at her that she's been looking at you.
2. I dont know about the staring thing, it seems a bit presumptious to me and will come across as sleazy if she's not interested.
3. Dont get grumpy if things dont appear to be going your way, this will push her away as well.

Its not that i think you would do any of these things but when someone is emotionally involved, sometimes they do things without realising what they are doing if you know what i mean...

Here's a suggestion of what you could do: you could try being subtle, suss her out about a possible boyfriend...

1. You could strike up a friendly conversation and ask her what she did on the weekend. Listen very carefully for a "we", in the conversation. If she says this you might say, "oh, did you go in a group?" or something like that. I dont know though, the presence of a boyfriend usually doesnt convince me sometimes...!

2. Here's a good one, you could strike up a conversation about the weekend and slip in the name of a gay bar and see if she catches on.

3. You could out youself and see what she says or does, although i find this hardcore and usually avoid it if i can.

4. You could be really cheeky and say, "i think you should come out with ME!"

5. If all else fails and you think you have nothing to lose, you could just be honest with her and say, "I'm attracted to you and I'd really like to get to know you better", or you could just say, "I'd like to get to know you, would you like to come out with me on friday night?", or something like that.

6. Oh, one more, you could leave a copy of the local gayr gay magazine lying around and see if she picks it up or fliches at it.

Its a tricky one and one ive struggled with myself at times. I must admit, when im unsure i tend to become cautious but if i really couldnt help myself, i would be honest but id do it in a nice kind of a way.

Im going to sleep on this one as well, there's got to be some ways you could find out. Perhaps some of the other posters have some ideas, there's some pretty resourceful people on this site.

Well, ive just about written another essay and i am exhausted to you take care Cortica and i want to see your toosh here in melbourne soon, i think we would have some fun. I could show you a place or two (venue's that is!). Let us know how you go,
Libragirl.
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Thanks Libragirl!

I've turned into a big chicken and have decided to do my usual trick of sitting back and doing nothing. If they like me, eventually I'll notice (or fabricate some idea of mutual feelings - like the line from the frente song - 'I don't know how I bent what you said to what I believe you meant') and if it turns out she's straight, well then nothing will happen, but at least I wont have shamed myself through obvious come ons in the process!......pathetic I know......

I've never been to melbourne - all my relations are from there though - and my best friend moved down there this year - and my sister's going down in a few weeks - so hey, maybe I'll make it down there eventually.

I'll be in sydney some time in the next couple of weeks - meet halfway?
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Hey Cortica,
Im glad you responded that way. After writing the message i realised i am not that kind of person (to give advice like that), it was totally out of my integrity. Basically what i should have said was that you can't do anything if she's straight; you always need to hold your dignity.

Wow, Sydney! It wasn't really on my agenda but how funny would it be if i came! Sydney's pretty fun but i wouldnt want to live there, way too fast for me! I just love the ferry to Manly though.

Have fun as im sure you will. Keep us posted on your adventures,

Seeya,
Libragirl.