Ever heard of granny dumping?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170010/Wife-son-dumped-American-dementia-sufferer-UK.html

An elderly American dementia patient was flown to Britain and dumped in a car park by his family, it has emerged.

Roger Curry was taken from his home in Los Angeles by his wife and son to the UK where he was abandoned without identification in November 2015. The 76-year-old was found at Hereford bus station in the company of two men who flagged down a passing ambulance. As paramedics assessed him, one of the men – described as having an American accent, but younger than Mr Curry – vanished from the scene. Mr Curry was cared for at a nursing home while police and social services spent months trying find out who he was.

The pensioner was finally flown back to America eight months later and is now under the care of health authorities in Los Angeles. According to an investigation by the BBC1 programme Panorama, being screened tonight, court papers filed in Los Angeles state: ‘In late 2015 Mr Curry was taken surreptitiously to England by his wife Mary Curry and his son Kevin Curry and abandoned there.’ The mystery surrounding Mr Curry’s identity led to numerous theories as to how he ended up in a Hereford car park. He appeared to have been well looked after and was dressed from head to toe in new clothes from Tesco.

As reported in the Mail last March, he was called Roger by staff caring for him after they heard him use the name Roger Curry. But police didn’t know whether that was his real name or not. The pensioner told doctors and care home staff he was not from the area and had been ‘training’ nearby, but said little else. Police even contacted veterans’ organisations in case Mr Curry was a former serviceman. Last year Sergeant Sarah Bennett of West Mercia Police said: ‘We have a possible name but we have nothing else. ‘We have no identity documents, no indication of where he’s from or any family.

'We’ve trawled through the CCTV. We’ve also contacted the National Crime Agency. We’ve gone to Interpol. ‘We’ve done a fingerprint search, we’ve done a DNA search and that hasn’t yielded any results.’ However, the clue to his identity came following a police appeal on BBC Midlands in March last year. After watching the news report, viewer Debbie Cocker searched the internet and found an old picture that looked like a younger version of the unidentified man. The photo came from a 1958 yearbook for dmonds High School in Washington State and it showed an 18-year-old student called Roger Curry. Mr Curry, pictured aged 18, perplexed authorities for months as they tried to learn his ID. He was eventually taken back to LA, where he is now under care

Investigators then tracked down the Roger Curry pictured in the yearbook to a burnt-out house in an affluent suburb of Los Angeles. After being shown photographs, neighbours identified the mystery man as Mr Curry – a former nurse who is married with two children. They then told how his family had been hit by tragedy. In November 2014 the family’s house burnt down in the middle of the night. Neighbours did not see them again until August 2015, when they found Mr Curry and his wife – who is also ill – camping out in the yard of their burnt-out house.

Their son Kevin had been bringing them food and they appeared to have been locked in behind the fence around the house. Neighbour Zenia Leon told Panorama that emergency services were shocked by what they found. She claimed they overheard the couple discussing what had happened, and said of Mr and Mrs Curry: ‘They were talking together and they said they were here the night the house burnt down.’

Miss Leon said Mr Curry was upset about his circumstances, adding: ‘He was in tears. This is a big, burly macho man in tears saying, “Who does this to their parents?”.’ Kevin Curry told Panorama, which is being screened at 8.30pm tonight, that he had nothing to do with the abandonment of his father in England.

He said his father became ill when they were visiting England on holiday and that he asked a friend to take him to hospital. But he could not explain why he had left Mr Curry in England for eight months without telling anyone who he was. Because of the high cost of care in America, elderly people are sometimes abandoned at hospitals in a practice called granny-dumping.

A man in his fifties from Taunton, Somerset, was arrested last April on suspicion of kidnapping Mr Curry. He is on police bail and has not been charged.

And some hospitals dump patients out on the street when they're discharged.

Hell, the rate in which the hospital discharged my mom into hospice was fucking disgusting. Kinda regretting not suing the shit out of that place, tbh.

People are disgusting when it comes to the elderly and dying, tbh. I am so glad I had full care of my mom the entire time she was sick. My grandma had my uncle taking care of her and he dropped the ball a lot in the last few months before she died.

During the entire time I was caring for my mom, I had so, so many nurses and docs telling my mom she was so fortunate to have me helping her solely because of all the fucked up shit they saw with the sick and elderly. Some are trying to do shit on their own, while others have a "caretaker" but they're total shit.

The latter is probably guilty of this granny dumping.

Japan has been doing that to all their elderly for a long time. There's an area designated just for this purpose.

My paternal grandmother lived in a nursing home for several years before she died. She had advanced Alzheimer's and couldn't be cared for at home. She was widowed in the 1960's and never worked, her 7 kids supported her. Medicaid paid 100% of her care at a very nice facility.

My maternal grandmother is very ill and seems to go back and forth between home, the hospital and a rehab/nursing facility. She has Medicare plus insurance from when my grandfather worked for the state and military. Her copay is $ 100 per DAY!!! She usually winds up going home early because they don't want the copays. She's in there now and trying to just get strong enough to go home. She spent well over 75 days in nursing facilities during 2016. Add that to the hospital and doctor copays and the two of them are spending well over $ 10,000 yearly on care. I can see how some people would feel hopeless. We need to do a better job.

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My paternal grandmother lived in a nursing home for several years before she died. She had advanced Alzheimer's and couldn't be cared for at home. She was widowed in the 1960's and never worked, her 7 kids supported her. Medicaid paid 100% of her care at a very nice facility.

My maternal grandmother is very ill and seems to go back and forth between home, the hospital and a rehab/nursing facility. She has Medicare plus insurance from when my grandfather worked for the state and military. Her copay is $ 100 per DAY!!! She usually winds up going home early because they don't want the copays. She's in there now and trying to just get strong enough to go home. She spent well over 75 days in nursing facilities during 2016. Add that to the hospital and doctor copays and the two of them are spending well over $ 10,000 yearly on care. I can see how some people would feel hopeless. We need to do a better job.

I'm not sure about long term care medicaid, so take this at a grain of salt, did your paternal grandmother also apply for medicaid?

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My grandmother with Alzheimer's had Medicaid

My maternal grandmother is not eligible. They still own their home plus retirement savings and pensions. My grandfather worked for the state tax department plus he was in WW2 and she worked as well so they have decent income coming in. They planned very well for their old age but there are so many people that did not or could not. I can't imagine having only social security income and winding up with $ 100 daily copays. It's crazy.

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My paternal grandmother lived in a nursing home for several years before she died. She had advanced Alzheimer's and couldn't be cared for at home. She was widowed in the 1960's and never worked, her 7 kids supported her. Medicaid paid 100% of her care at a very nice facility.

My maternal grandmother is very ill and seems to go back and forth between home, the hospital and a rehab/nursing facility. She has Medicare plus insurance from when my grandfather worked for the state and military. Her copay is $ 100 per DAY!!! She usually winds up going home early because they don't want the copays. She's in there now and trying to just get strong enough to go home. She spent well over 75 days in nursing facilities during 2016. Add that to the hospital and doctor copays and the two of them are spending well over $ 10,000 yearly on care. I can see how some people would feel hopeless. We need to do a better job.

I'm not sure about long term care medicaid, so take this at a grain of salt, did your paternal grandmother also apply for medicaid?

My grandmother with Alzheimer's had Medicaid

My maternal grandmother is not eligible. They still own their home plus retirement savings and pensions. My grandfather worked for the state tax department plus he was in WW2 and she worked as well so they have decent income coming in. They planned very well for their old age but there are so many people that did not or could not. I can't imagine having only social security income and winding up with $ 100 daily copays. It's crazy.

Honestly, I don't know what the future of Medicaid will be for your grandmother with Alzheimers. Trump would like to restructure Medicaid and Medicare and make them less of entitlements, and let states decide. And the way he is putting out executive orders, and who knows how this will pan out. But if it does happen, I hope your grandmother lives in a blue state, because red states hate funding any type of public assistance.

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She died in 2012

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My paternal grandmother lived in a nursing home for several years before she died. She had advanced Alzheimer's and couldn't be cared for at home. She was widowed in the 1960's and never worked, her 7 kids supported her. Medicaid paid 100% of her care at a very nice facility.

My maternal grandmother is very ill and seems to go back and forth between home, the hospital and a rehab/nursing facility. She has Medicare plus insurance from when my grandfather worked for the state and military. Her copay is $ 100 per DAY!!! She usually winds up going home early because they don't want the copays. She's in there now and trying to just get strong enough to go home. She spent well over 75 days in nursing facilities during 2016. Add that to the hospital and doctor copays and the two of them are spending well over $ 10,000 yearly on care. I can see how some people would feel hopeless. We need to do a better job.

I'm not sure about long term care medicaid, so take this at a grain of salt, did your paternal grandmother also apply for medicaid?

My grandmother with Alzheimer's had Medicaid

My maternal grandmother is not eligible. They still own their home plus retirement savings and pensions. My grandfather worked for the state tax department plus he was in WW2 and she worked as well so they have decent income coming in. They planned very well for their old age but there are so many people that did not or could not. I can't imagine having only social security income and winding up with $ 100 daily copays. It's crazy.

Honestly, I don't know what the future of Medicaid will be for your grandmother with Alzheimers. Trump would like to restructure Medicaid and Medicare and make them less of entitlements, and let states decide. And the way he is putting out executive orders, and who knows how this will pan out. But if it does happen, I hope your grandmother lives in a blue state, because red states hate funding any type of public assistance.

She died in 2012

Sorry. My condolences.

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Thank you.

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My paternal grandmother ...

My maternal grandmother...

thank you for sharing this personal information.