To the people in London, my condolences..

I'm sorry to hear about the horrific act of violence that recently struck London. I know many of the people here on DXP may have been touched by the bombings- and I hope that any of you who live in the UK or may have a loved ones and friends in the UK are all OK. My heart reaches out to those who were injured and killed.

Thanks. sTD

In feelings side.. yeah.. I am with you StD and I am deeply sad by this stupid stuff..! BUT

BUT, they are "collateral damage"? see? When the western side of the world kills 1000,000's of innocents peoples around the world no one lift a "goddamn" fingers for it..! But when? 9/11 or 7/7.. are in place and happen, then you and every other says?.OH?..MY GOD?!

Time to think deeply lady?! We all are HUMAN? Have you sent your condolences to innocent AFGHAN OR PLAESTINIAN, IRAQIUES PEOPLE TOO— Or they are animal and must be killed in the way that "sh!t happens"?.! (Not even the under "the collateral damage" circumstances)..??............. GIVE IT UP?.!!

As I've said? time to think deeply lady?!

Still don?t believe me..??

Latest articles here?..


Monday, 4 July, 2005, 17:13 GMT 18:13 UK


US regrets Afghan civilian deaths ?.

Women and children were among 17 killed in the raid on Chechal village..!!

More on this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4647715.stm<BR>
and many more in past half a year?. Let me know if you want it?!

Actually Q, even from the early beginnings of the war, I have been actively against it... not ONLY because of the needless loss of life, but because I thought people were being deceived into going into war.

The Palestinian/Isreali long-standing war is ALSO something I do have heart-felt condolences for... FOR ALL Afghan, Palestinian, Iraqies AND all people who fall victim to wars that they do not wish to be a part of. Where everyday life is a struggle for power which they will never see.

However.. I wrote my feelings on this forum, because I know for a fact that there are several people HERE who-- I talk to everyday.. who may either be in the UK- or have friends and family there- and that's why I posted this particular message here.

You are absolutely right- we are all people... and this is all very sad.. very stupid stuff. Politicians and their "ideas".... yet it's the people who suffer the consequences.

What I'm getting at- I like the people here- I knew of this act- I just wanted to say something...

I am glad that your feelings "as you've described above" are in right place..! I just wanted to make sure that everyone acknowledges that WE ALL ARE HUMAN with no differences...

peace

Thankyou SeizeTD for your kind words. It was very shocking. For the older generation, it was reliving the luftwaffe experience (WW II). Two people whom I know have been injured. But they are going to be fine. I do treat people who suffer from Post-Traumatic Strees Disorder. These are the ones who have been through severe trauma caused by personal tragedies. The ones needing most help are who have been put through violent conditions, day in and day out. It is the time to pray for peace and amity around the world.

Shame on you Q-bone?You have no right to lecture STD for her compassionate post. She was simply expressing her condolences for the people involved in the London tragedy, knowing full well that members of this message board have friends and family there. It was neither the time, nor the place for another one of your tedious rants, about American foreign policy. And using the tragedy in Afghanistan in such a disingenuous manner. How utterly insensitive! If anyone here is in need of a lesson in humanity, clearly it is YOU!

Ohh?. I am GLAD that you didn?t like my post? or it would be a huge shame..!! I see that you open your filthy mouth again....! welcome back?.NOT..!

What I said was just a reminder that, HUMAN does not exist in the western world ONLY?!

Where was this sense of "COMPASSIONS" when the last year "tsunami" happened..?? Did anyone said anything..?? I don?t remember..! Or people get killed by act of Western terrorism GOLBALY..?? EVERYDAY..??.. Where are those condolences..?? huh?..idiot?!

There are many members here from many races that DOS NOT LIVE IN US OR UK..! Perhaps some are from Iraq or Palestine... even Israel... so? they don?t deserve that compassion....??

I didn?t criticise neither lectured any one?. It was a reminder?!

Now kindly shut the hell up and get back to your cave again ??!

There's others that you have to pay special attention to catch because they aren't scoped up by the media as something important or have big story promise.So it will get a small tidbit then go to something else that catches more peoples attention;exciting.It's the media play,all of them should be respected but there are only few that some people know about.There was actually a genocide in sedan not to long ago too but mainly ebay and political musicians picked it up and donated to due to the lack of knowledge about it.Either way,it's all terrible and should be viewed and condolenced equally even if it's not this or that the person mentions.It's the media rather than the people,some americans are left in the dark about some things and then the media tries to turn it into a you don't care about the troops or respect that thier dying for you,if you disagree with the wars or political leaders if someone opens thier mouth and gets followers.It's all media guilt trips and mind games to control people here because they know they'd be fucked if all the stuff got out.

Hi
STD tahnx for the thread. Yes my feelings are always with any tragedy happening anywhere in the world! The worst is when innocents get killed.

I have as much love for uSA as for India. But i have to say this. I do understand what Qbone is trying to state here. Let us honestly take a look at the media. It portrays for the effect that it wants to create in people's mind.Moving away form the topic of this thread permit me to giv ethis example. One has to just see the photo coverage of recent Iran elections covered by the USA media and Indian media. The Indian covereage portrayed the most fashionably-aesthetically dressed and well groomed Iranian females of all ages, along with the rural and orthodox part of the society. The USA coverage as I saw on the net was exactly the opposite. Dont the people have a right to know all aspects of any given society? Why show the one which just adds to the cliche view that peopel have of "so and so" culture? I can go on and on abotu it.

And I dont think this "was not the occassion" to bring this up by Q. This is a message board not a private condolence meeting. What he says is a fact which the people here whose family and friends must have got affected should know. The truth is - a more horrible version of it is an almost daily occerance in most of the Asian & African countries. Much of it due to western meddling.Q has seen the world. We all can understand that. He speaks form first hand experience and not soem emotionalism or policy goverened propaganda.

May the Soul of the deceased rest in peace.

Thanks for wording that better than me looney.The media sucks.I know some people are uninformed with that stuff so I don't blame them for thinking it's rude but at the same time do know about the other stuff so totally agree with him too,contradictary moment but of course,people dying is people dying.All of it's not anyones fault when the media and government is more of the culprit.

Although I do remember you toto grrr.*sticks out tounge and blows slobber all over*

Thank you STD, for your sensitivity. People, such as yourself, who are empathetic to other's needs, are very special, indeed.

As much as Toto has ticked me off in the past with her words, this time, she is in the right with what she said. By feeling for one person, or one thing and relating those endearments, does not mean that a person doesn't feel for all. That was the insinuation and it's very distressing. It's true what everyone else said, but by making the statements that were said, it has taken away from how compassionate STD is about what happened in London.

If you do something really special for a person and that person can only see . . . WHAT YOU DIDN'T DO - that is very narrow and critical. She has posted something that has touched her heart and instead of cherishing that sentiment, it was made to look as though it had no merit - it meant nothing.

This post has nothing to do with who is at fault, who has suffered needlessly in other countries - this is about her feelings for the citizens of London. Validate this by embracing her support - don't point fingers and say it wasn't enough. Attempting to place shame on someone because that person didn't give enough (though everything they did give was from the heart), is dispictable!

Thank you STD, very much. It's because of people like you that makes this world a better place.

Kisses and hugs to you, shawty.

Dat deres my shawty, raut thur

P-Angle

You do the same mistake as toto.. Nobody criticized the StD's post?! But when you cry.. you have to cry for all? or none.. it is the rule of the game, in her simple and innocent post she created an atmosphere of (what the hell is going on..?).

I'll take the blame that I started all, just to make a (((reminder))) that people dies everywhere and nobody cares unless they are from the WEST?!

Let me tell you all a little story?!!

I have a couple of good friends from Bosnia "one at age 33 and the other is 28", the one at 33 lost his eye sight ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY while they took refuge in their local Mosque "blown out by cannon fire" and the other one a "really pretty young girl" lost her both legs and HER ENTIRE FAMILY in the same event, they were buried under those ruins for the horrible 2 days scared/hurt/damaged physically/hungry and thirsty, until they got rescued by the local militias (terrorist and insurgents to you guys) and then delivered to the "red cross" later.. on the mule's back.!!!

Now.. who's responsible for this?

THE LEGAL TERRORISM?

How many of you guys actually KNOWS about other stories like this..??

How many of you even dropped a single tear of COMPASSIONS for this...??

Shall I say SHAME ON YOU ALL..??

Now the fun part is?.! The Mosque is believed to be targeted By the NATO forces and not the Serbs?!

Last year when they had a simple (memorial of their beloved one) I didn?t dare to say a single word, no condolences, and no compassions etc? because in this way I respected their feelings, those events like this "is belongs to the DESTINY"..!

"Showing compassions and sympathies, makes the HATE and ANGER grows inside of our soul and mind, when you start HATEING, you get blinded?and wants to get a revenge.. I chose to forgive".

(it was Natasha's own word), I got shocked by her wisdom and humility at the age of 28?!

AT THAT TIME THEY WERE KIDS FOR GOD SAKE?!!

Why am I telling this?.. the obvious reason is that, manslaughter and tragedies are happening in the most horrible ways in this world. Sympathies and Compassions won't get her and his lives back to NORMAL, and they have to live with their nightmares everyday, every year, for the rest of their remaining lives.

This is WHAT exactly the GODDAMN western media wants? to force you to HATE the (FAKED) responsible forces


Now.. for the 7/7 events?.! (my view) of the REAL terrorism..!

The G-8 conference was an ideal, high-profile venue to mobilize the sympathy of world leaders behind their flagging amateur B&B show. Today's Guy Fawkeses, home-team self-terrorists in the heart of empire, thumbed their noses at mortal fools while they played their favourite "base-eleven numerology" game, on this 7/7 date?following on Madrid 3/11 and New York 9/11, with its Flights 11 and 77.

So how can I be so sure? The war-profiteer cliques are not all that inventive. False terror is the only trick they know. If they had any idea of governance or statecraft, they wouldn't need to stoop to these toxic tactics.

One of the classic trademarks of false flag terror was on display on 7th July 2005: the "previously unknown" organization posting anonymously on a website. Of course, western intelligence, using Echelon and such tools, could track any web posting back to its source. If """they""" wanted to.

? "Real" terrorists are known groups that make concrete demands. They are an endangered species, if not extinct.

? Fake terrorists?covert Spy-war units of western intelligence?always invent a name of an "unknown" group. They have to do this, of course. If they claimed, say, that the PLO did it, the accused would energetically deny it, spoiling the show. So they use fictitious identities, which they can mould to suit the target of convenience.

7/7 fiction was a "secret

LMAO? 9/11 was an excuse to start the (Middle East occupations) by stupid evil J.S. Forces called the "coalitions"?. ! To suck the resources and IGNORE, DISRESPECT the HUMANITY.!

7/7 starting—..... Place your "BETS" please ladies and Gentlemen; we are living in very exciting moments of the history of mankind..!

And thank you Lady looneybird for your everlasting wisdom.?!

Ahh?. the famous post hijacker again?.!... hey toto? since you are so good at this remove those links between me and you please.. its embracing?!

And if you love me so much, say it so?. So I wont call you NAMES anymore?. And I might get you to a fancy restaurant as well?.. ! just stop hijacking posts..

A Letter to the British People from a daughter of Iraq.

I?m sending this letter to the British people and in particular to the residents of London. For a period of hours, you have lived through moments of desperate anxiety and horror. In those hours you lost a member of your family or a friend, and we wish to tell you in total honesty that we too grieve when human lives pass away. I cannot tell you how much we hurt when we see desperation and pain on the face of another person. For we have lived through this situation ? and continue to live through it every day ? since your country and the United States formed an alliance and laid plans to attack Iraq.

The Prime Minister of your country, Tony Blair, said that those who carried out the explosions did so in the name of Islam. The Secretary of State of the United States, Condaleezza Rice, described the bombings as an act of barbarism. The United Nations Security Council met and unanimously condemned the event.

I would like to ask you, the free British people, to allow me to inquire: in whose name was our country blockaded for 12 years? In whose name were our cities bombed using internationally prohibited weapons? In whose name did the British army kill Iraqis and torture them? Was that in your name? Or in the name of religion? Or humanity? Or freedom? Or democracy?

What do you call the killing of more than two million children? What do you call the pollution of the soil and the water with depleted uranium and other lethal substances?

What do you call what happened in the prisons in Iraq ? in Abu Ghraib, Camp Bucca and the many other prison camps? What do you call the torture of men, women, and children? What do you call tying bombs to the bodies of prisoners and blowing them apart? What do you call the refinement of methods of torture for use on Iraqi prisoners ? such as pulling off limbs, gouging out eyes, putting out cigarettes on their skin, and using cigarette lighters to set fire to the hair on their heads? Does the word ?barbaric? adequately describe the behavior of your troops in Iraq?

May we ask why the Security Council did not condemn the massacre in al-Amiriyah and what happened in al-Fallujah, Tal?afar, Sadr City, and an-Najaf? Why does the world watch as our people are killed and tortured and not condemn the crimes being committed against us? Are you human beings and we something less? Do you think that only you can feel pain and we can?t? In fact it is we who are most aware of how intense is the pain of the mother who has lost her child, or the father who has lost his family. We know very well how painful it is to lose those you love.

You don?t know our martyrs, but we know them. You don?t remember them, but we remember them. You don?t cry over them, but we cry over them.

Have you heard the name of the little girl Hannan Salih Matrud? Or of the boy Ahmad Jabir Karim? Or Sa?id Shabram?

Yes, our dead have names too. They have faces and stories and memories. There was a time when they were among us, laughing and playing. They had dreams, just as you have. They had a tomorrow awaiting them. But today they sleep among us with no tomorrow on which to wake.

We don?t hate the British people or the peoples of the world. This war was imposed upon us, but we are now fighting it in defense of our selves. Because we want to live in our homeland ? the free land of Iraq ? and to live as we want to live, not as your government or the American government wish.

Let the families of those killed know that responsibility for the Thursday morning London bombings lies with Tony Blair and his policies. Stop your war against our people! Stop the daily killing that your troops commit! End your occupation of our homeland!

Iman al-Saadun




ANY COMPASSIONS..?? SUIT YOURSLEVES...!!

http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/56417

Typical Virgo. They think they can dictate to everyone else, who we?re allowed to grieve for and when! What we're allowed to feel, and why. If your feelings of grief for the victims in Afghanistan were genuine, you had ample opportunity to offer your condolences to them in the same manner sTD did. Instead you used the incident to ambush a young woman who was merely expressing her sorrow to our British board members or to the people who had family there. She was only trying to be thoughtful, that?s all. Why is everything an excuse to show how intellectually and morally superior you think you are to the rest of us? No wonder you?re divorced.

Insult me all you want. It won?t change the fact that you were rude to sTD. If you had a single once of class you would apologize immediately...LOL, what am I saying? A Virgo apologize. How silly of me.

Um,theres the virgo board for sign bashing.STD seen his point shes an aries,looneybirds a cancer and im a scorpio so discrediting his opinion in response because he's a virgo when the rest of us know what he's getting at here is stupid and is rude of you.

Yeah... you are silly, you don?t have to preach about it thou.

Apologising for what..?? To telling the truth, that you don?t want to hear it..?? You gotta be kiddin me? right..??

LOL?!

Some facts were presented, and to your typical ignorant, arrogant westerner's ass they are not as important as what your media (s) been feeding you with all the way, tell me something creature..! have you?ve seen such a letter "that I've posted above" in your everyday "refined" life..?

NO..?? No wonder you are such an arrogant and acting like an idiot..!

Real truth are damn hard to swallow?."if some % of humanity" still left in your soulless, mindless poisoned exoskeleton!, you would've know that the members of the humanity has been died.. not a members of particular societies of the WORLD?!

By expressing your feelings about particular incident to a particular society, you are discriminating DIRECTLY and disrespect/dishonour the rest of the humanity?.. have I heard someone said? "but Qbone we don?t have time to say our condolences for every incidents everyday"?.!! GRAAANTED??. But then.. shut up and say nothing..! Whether you know it or not.. Your acts PROMOTING RACISM AND DISCRIMINATIONS?!!

ONE FOR ALL, ALL FOR ONE??.OR NOTHING AT ALL..!!

Unless as I've said?.Human and their feelings are belongs to the Westerners.. the rest of the world are occupied by non Human..!! I don?t have to go OVER THE BOARD and preach about my sadness and feelings for the loss of poor souls; there is different between?saying.. and? doing?! what ever I do, I don?t PRETEND?!

Now? for the 4th time? I haven?t criticised the topic.. or StD?. (You suspiciously acting like that parallax "RIP")?. You don?t read the lines, you just extract what you wanted after your taste and tailor it accordingly? MANIPULATIONS is your nature..!! get back to your cave "chick!!??!!", you have no place in reality? ohh?.. look?!! you've lost one of your plastic nails? hung from tip of your finger?. ohh?.damn sad..! MY CONDOLENCES for the loss of your.. errr?. fake nail?!

PS!

If my reactions to the topic (proving the Virgoness) then I am damn proud of being VIRGO. "what has to do with the story anyway"..?

Thanks goddess Tiamat.. for making my points valid

This is sad. Really, really sad. What happened to this world? How will we ever overcome if NONE of us can get past ourselves?

What is so sad about P- Angel..??

You've proved that you are "compassionate American figures"? as always? what do you sad about..??

NEXT HERO..!!!??

Americans?.. FIRST BLAST?. We are IN?.. second Blast?WE ARE OUT?.LMAO..!!

HOW TYPICAL?

I actually feel sorry for you. You're so pathetic and the thing is . . . with all your intelligence, you don't have the wisdom to recognize how sorry you are to mankind. I guess ignorance really is bliss!

You have taken one person and placed judgement against all! That is discrimination, mate. You're not even worthy of this response!

Yeah?. As long as creatures like you exist in this planet?? go on woman?. Talk about blowjobs and slobbering over the male dicks?.. you have no place in humanity and dignity anyway? ,,, go an? suck it? you feel good after that?. What do you care about reality

Tell you some thing "secret" idiots like you comes and go? and when you die? no body.. ever think about your existence but those (dicks that you've slobbered over and.. IF? they remembered you??. Now? go on?feel yourself good.. and be happy?!!

Was that aVirgo that you sucked and kissed ass for?. Here is another one?.come on?.!!

My reason for posting that is the fact that I too overestimated her intentions.I don't see anywhere here or the one on the scorpio board toto offering any condolences,you on the other hand did so im not arguing with you due to you actually mean it.That second post seems like it's just that once again she wants to downgrade and insult people.Im sure people here will still lighten up on her if she doesn't contradict what she says with attack mode.

Umm.ummm...ummm hummm ummm?trying to act as innocents raped woman? SHUT THE HELL UP? will you!!

You have two alternatives:
? 1 actively fight for what you've believe.
? 2 shut the hell up.

Choice is yours P-Angle?.

Come on (yuck) p-angle..
I need evidence when you called me "pathetic"?

Wow.

Qbone the cyber bully, get off your high horse mate!!

Most of us here are aware of the atrosities the western world have been responsible for over history. It amazes me that you are a 45 year old man. The way you have responded to this post is disrespectful to the people who have been injured and lost there lives in this attack.

Your right we are all equal and these innocent westerners deserved this no more than any inncocent other, be it of any colour or creed. We as civilians can not be held 100% responsible for our governments doings. We can only express our disapproval through the voting polls and rallying. I'm not sure if fear of unrest is the reason we still have the same leaders but I certainly hope this will change.

It seems to me Qbone that you are doing nothing else but trying to make yourself look like some kind of hero freedom fighter. You seem to have all the answers, go and be a hero in the real world rather than spreading your negetivity on these boards.

BTW- I find the way you talk to some of the people on these boards to be quite disgusting.... GROW UP!!!

BJ

The reason about my posts wasn't spread the negativity "as you've suggested"... nor to be "hero"?. And I didn?t hold anyone (directly) responsible to anything?

What I did was to bring up another side of the story that is "mostly invisible" to the others, like you and the rest?.. Beside, my main intention was to make a remark to those people that may have lost someone in this incident? to tell those that they are NOT ALONE?.!

BY SHOWING ONOTHER SIDE OF THE REALITY?.!

Some of the board's member didn?t like it?. Well, the reality "are not always welcome" but that doesn?t mean they don?t "exist" ? they are here and they live with us.. you ignore them today.. They kick back tomorrow?.!

My attitude against some of board's member comes directly from their (previous) posts and their thoughts?! When they are presenting their ideas about things (so seriously)? their "pervious" thoughts "counts in" and my reactions are based upon those "previous thoughts"? call me 10 or 1000.years old? Does it really matter ..??

Maturities of thoughts are important? when a 50 years old being talked about stuff that belongs to teens? well? you know the rest?!!

ONOTHER=ANOTHER

Hi

What I fail to understand is how Q's response to STD was disrespectful? he never ever showed any signs of disrespect towards the ones hurt or died in the incident. He jsut took the opportunity to remind people (since this is a message board... can reach outto the millions)of worse incidents which do merit attention and sympathies of people but get ignored.

Message Boards are the places where people express themselves. Specially when tragedies like the one happened in London, does brign back the memories of incidents of such or worse magnanimity. And certian negative responses to him here just show the ignorance of people towards those from different cultures...and the sensitivities of people who have gone through extreme circumstances.

Q didnot show lack of sensitivity.Infact he has been repeatedly tryign to make people understand his point of view. He even gave soem examples of attrocities committed in the world...soem links...But have you guys even tried to acknowledge or understood where does his anguish arise from?

I have yet to see a single of critique here saying a single word of sympathy towards soem horror stories Q related here abotu Asia. Which means his lashing against the west is justified. Atleast Q offered his sympathies for London's 7/7.

Kindly dont hide behind this..."our govt is at fault so we cant be blamed" ... blah blah. Sure you cant be blamed for the attrocities of western govt. But your lack to express empathy/sympathy towards those attrocities mentioned here...instead you are busy sharpenign your attack against Q...what does that speak of you as people..as humans?

I would have understood Q's critiques if they had jsut said that they do understnad his point of view btu are baffled by his strong tone. But what people have choosed to do here is to put him down. As if they were jsut waiting for a golden opportunity of soem sorts.... to attack him.

Now if you dont like his style , then stick to that point. Whatever sentiments he has expressed are real ones and need to be understood in the context of how people in west specially USA stay in a state of ignorance .. The point is nobody can understand the anguish of a person affected by vioelnce unless one has actually gone through it or knows close ones who have gone through it. But atleast avoid putting down soembody who was only drawign the attention towards the worse happenign around the world. And let me say is that worse is an understatement.

I hope people who expect others to maintian sanity..should themselves know to practise it first.

Qbone !

Permit me to say that intelligence like yours is understood and appreciated by select ones, who can rise above personal prejudices and pay attnetion to the "message" your words carry. Rest assured there are many here who accpet your thoughts, ideas and welcome you with open arms.Rest really dont deserve your attention.

Yeah this never happened until dumbass twisted it into something that it wasn't and he defended himself.He at least still expressed his feeling for the people who died in the post.Toto trying to play turn something important,this one being people dying,into an arguement again,honestly thats more rude and disrespectful to the people who suffered from it.Has anyone noticed the poster and the suffer 19eleven hasn't posted since her arrival.

opps sufferer

Toto says to Q-bone
"No wonder you?re divorced"!!!!
You're a stupid, fcuking woman - and I don't usually use bad language to get my point across but in your case - you give everything a bad name!!!
If you want to agree or disagree with Q-bone's viewpoints on this issue - DO IT AND DO IT WELL but don't get down and dirty on a person's personal, private life......

A x

Just my feelings, and mine alone . . .

I can't say for others - but, my gripe was only about the belittling of one persons feelings. And nobody here knows that persons' feelings uless they are told to another. Everything that has been said about all the tragic moments, the media's manipulation - it's all true. Nobody has denied that. But, you can't force another's pity - contemptuous pity (def: pathetic). In so doing, it causes this sort of reaction.

By doing this, you make it INsincere! If someone loved you (you, meaning us as individuals) and they told you that they loved you and felt for you, wouldn't that be endearing? But, if you had to instruct them that it was appropriate for them to verbally speak those words to you - is that sincere? Do you think they really mean it? You can't tell another how to feel, and if they don't feel the way you want them to - then their stupid and arrogant. If I tell you something that I don't want to say, but am forced into pitying you and telling you - do you think I really mean it? Do you really want this? Perhaps that kind of motivation to solve problems is what other people need to make a difference in this world, but not me. That is the impression I was left with. That is the reason for my responses.

Take me for example: How does anyone in here know whether or not I sympathise, shed tears, or even give support to groups who come to the aid of another? But, if I do say something about one issue in particular (but, not about everything), then my feelings aren't valid? It has been reminded of others needs in this world and that is not a bad thing, but, to say that one is not feeling deeply enough is pretty unfair. How does one know how deeply another feels? If I said to any of you that I give my condolences to some tragedy - that does not mean that I haven't done so for every other one in the world. Does this mean that a person has to say it to a particular person for it to be true? It was said (I'm paraphrazing here): do you cry for this event? have you given condolences for that? Why must one be put on the spot about who they've shed a tear for? Only one person alone can make the decision whether another's feelings hold merit? Talk about arrogance!

It is known by all who read these posts that Q is quite intelligent and has a lot to offer people in many ways. He has seen a lot more of the world than most and keeps himself abreast of current events - but, it's not up to him to decide that you must cry for all, or none. In so making this demand, it leaves the impression that we must tell HIM how we feel, or we are arrogant westerners. Can you not see how shallow that is? Do my feelings or anyone elses mean nothing unless we tell it to him?

Personally, my problem wasn't that he reminded us of things that we need to think about. We all do need to think about these things and carry them with us all the time, so we never forget. Pointing things out (such as Q did) is perhaps something he needed to do. Maybe some people didn't know and now their eyes are open. That's not the problem I had with his post. He thinks so - that's why he went on and on about it - but, it's not. My problem was that to him - STD's sincerity wasn't enough and yet, it was given from the heart. That is very cold. She didn't take offense and that's great - she's a mature person and it certainly shows in this manner. But, that doesn't excuse his actions. I know this isn't the same issue, but the principal is the same. If you spend all day cleaning house, but forgot one thing and then your husband comes home and points out to you, what you didn't do - how does that make you feel? Your efforts in wanting to give him something goes unappreciated and your made to feel as though your worth for what you did do isn't enough. It's this sort of thing that got under my skin.

If you gather one of your children onto your lap and fill

I am honoured by you people?.. Looney/Alana/Tiamat? you guys are priceless and each of you is a huge credit to your community? I LOVE YOU ALL?. I really do?

Whish I had a possibility to bow and kiss your feet? you all are real angels?.!

Again I say...WOW!

I actually understand where everyone is coming from.

STD's intentions were not to neglect only to offer condolences. Q's intentions were not to bash her but to bring to light the deaths that occur in much larger numbers in countries that are often overlooked because of WHATEVER reason. And &toto's intentions are always to be a raging b!tch. Simple as that...but it is good to have debate.

Cancerlady

Ok, so everyone knows I have a sick and demented sense of humor, right?

So, wouldn't it be funny as hell if Q and I met in person and loved each other?

Thanks everyone for your responses-

Cancerlady is right, this post did stray away from it's original intentions, but as I've said before, this is a public forum.... and everyone here has the right to voice their opinions. For the most part, I think people try to be constructive.

Except for Toto.

Toto, I don't say this much, but I don't like the negative vibe you bring. Despite your intentions, mostly everything you say rubs "someone" here the wrong way- particularly people who I consider friends. Sure, you can say what you want- but I would hope that you would come from a place of validness- rather than stooping to rude accusations and pointless ranting.

This may be petty, but additionally, the odd way you formed your handle--- so when people click on your name to see your profile, all they get is a reflection of their own activity within DXP (This is a dxp code issue more than it is your fault- never-the-less, quite annoying). Anyway- I needed to voice my opinion about your postings- so maybe in the future you'd be less abbrasive.

I can for some reason access all of the posts she has written...Here they are...4 are directed towards me personally and only 2 of the 8 were positive. Quelle Salope!

1)Oh dig the panties out of your crack CancerLady. If you come on here and broadcast your love life, then learn to take a little good natured teasing.

Any way Para....I mean Grzly, I love your sense of humor

2)Why do you have to attack anyone with a different point of view Cancerlady. If you're so sure of your beliefs, and don't care what anyone else thinks (as you have stated previously) why even ask the question? And why attack Brahn0913. Anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a hater, or on a tirade? The only tirade I saw came from your sweet little fingers. He wasn't the only one wondering why this question was even asked. You mean to tell us at 26, you don't know what constitutes cheating and what doesn't? Then girl, you're a fool.

Your incessant need to post the intimate details of your sexual exploits ammounts to little more than a juvenile cry for attention. Not to mention perpetuating the stereotype that black women are all a bunch of ho's and hootchies. I'm sure many of us here have equally satisfying sex lives. Believe me, when I get together with my closest girlfriends, we tell some stories that would curl even your hair. But parade around on a message board making a spectacle of myself for others people's ammusment - No thank you. You might as well smear your face with shoe polish and put on a minstral show. It's nearly as degrading. "It was a month...I was so horny..." Please girl! As if all us black women have no control over ourselves. As if we're all a bunch of out of control hootchies. You're an embarrasment to yourself and our entire community. It's very easy to spot what questions are being asked in earnest, and what questions are placed for the purposes of cheap thrills. If your behavior on this board is any indication of the way you carry on in real life then it is no wonder you are attracting men, how did you put it? - "like flies to trash." Please girl, show some respect for yourself. Then maybe you will attract a man who will respect you in return.

3)Does that woman even work? Sure wish I could sit home on welfare and post on the internet all day and all night.

Guys don't pay any attention to all of these immature male-bashing jokes. We aren?t all Bitter Bettys some of us happen to think you?re terrific!!!!!!


4)All depends on what you're looking for. My DH is a Cancer to the Nth degree The man is flat out gorgeous. Mmmmm Mmmm - he can't cling enough for my taste. Believe me, I dated enough macho headed bullies before I found him. Give me a sensitive man any day.

5)I see someone else has joined me in the Wizard of Oz theme. Good luck with your Scorp.

6)Shame on you Q-bone?You have no right to lecture STD for her compassionate post. She was simply expressing her condolences for the people involved in the London tragedy, knowing full well that members of this message board have friends and family there. It was neither the time, nor the place for another one of your tedious rants, about American foreign policy. And using the tragedy in Afghanistan in such a disingenuous manner. How utterly insensitive! If anyone here is in need of a lesson in humanity, clearly it is YOU!

7)Typical Virgo. They think they can dictate to everyone else, who we?re allowed to grieve for and when! What we're allowed to feel, and why. If your feelings of grief for the victims in Afghanistan were genuine, you had ample opportunity to offer your condolences to them in the same manner sTD did. Instead you used the incident to ambush a young woman who was merely expressing her sorrow to our British board members or to the people who had family there. She was only trying to be thoughtful, that?s all. Why is everything an excuse to show how intellectually and morally s

Aha. One of my the most interesting topics. Hehehe.

Islamic countries. Hmm. What do you all know about that? Huh? Do you think they treat their own people like priceless gems? There is nothing different. Either their own people kill them or bombs kill them. The first one lasts forever, the latter one lasts couple month. Which one is better?

Then. Some people in these countries truly deserve death. Look at religious tribes. They have power to take other people power in public? Yes they do. And they actually do it. Now how tells "stop" them? Their own people or bombs? You deside.

Civilians are always taget of every assault. You cant count lives of tens, houndreds or even thousands as great loss when you change the country by force. Give me an example where war was without the loss. People are dying. Thats bad. But for what are they dying? For good or for bad? Iraq. People were already dying because of Saddam himself who was actually their president. What is the catch? Who is more killing, Saddam or bombs?

And many others...