i have had 3 pisces roommates in the past 10 months each one of them did the same thing they all started out with jobs had they stuff together and as soon as they move in it seems like everything goes wrong for them one was a friend from work she was young and dumb but she had a job i needed a roomy so i was like what the hell....the first time i asked for a bill she paid it but said someone took 400.00 out of her acct therefore i had to cover the house hold things ect. this went on everytime we got paid but she always had some major excuse then she lost her job and would sit around the house all day wit her guy friends and smoke weed while i worked she finally found another job quit because she thougt she had a new job but failed the drug test this went on for 6 months until i told her she need to go strip or something she started and never stopped so we ran into a corner i couldnt do it by myself and told her if she didnt pay she had to get out so she left and never gev me money towards bills and she owed me money from somthing else and then bad mouthed me and our other roommate saying that we kicked her out next the guy i was dating needed a place i should have known cus he got kicked out btu not sure what for the reason he gave me was lame so who know but he lied told me he had a job he then got one but would never go he cared more about his car and bike clubs and his stupid dawg more than paying his shar e he never once gve me a dime and left and said he shoudnt be responsible cus he not on the lease wtf!!!! then my other roomy moved her bf in so they could save together and when he came he started out with 2 jobs then later had 0...he layed around the house all day never cleaned which was something all of them also did complained if i didnt share with him so when i told him he needed to come up wit his share he left he still says he is going to give us some money when he gets his first check but what up wit this are pisces realy lazy all the ones i know pretty much are except one all the rest are spoiled by there parents or they just mooch and party all day
bad roommates?
all three were lazy and as soon as they seen i was a giving person they took advantage and when times got ruff they just left i am a taurus women very independent, but i love money and i love my friends to have the best but i also want the to work for the best too is this me doing this or is it a pisces thing i recently had a virgo move in she was in town for 1 week found a job the 3rd say she was here and is eager to began working she also does music and is foundign out ways to make other money so it has to be a pisces things

you obviously haven't been robbed before

hehe - cream

"one was a friend from work she was young and dumb but she had a job i needed a roomy so i was like what the hell"
"next the guy i was dating needed a place i should have known cus he got kicked out btu not sure what for the reason he gave me was lame"
"my other roomy moved her bf in so they could save together"
"i am a taurus women very independent, but i love money and i love my friends to have the best but i also want the to work for the best"
The problem here sounds pretty simple, cream .... you have a love for money, which is ok, however, this affinity for the dollar is causing you to put it ahead of being discerning for quality. What I mean is that you are in need of roommates, and so only consider "money" as a means of choosing who's going to live with you.
Your choices are coming from this greed for $ $ $ $ $ $ and not any forethought put into it .. only hindsight to be disgruntled.
Whether these people are Pisces, or not .. doesn't change your method of choosing .. they just happened to be Pisces.
Person #1 .. you knew was young and dumb, but, you figured what the hell, she has a job .... #2 gave you lame excuses .. #3 you didn't even choose at all, someone else did who was paying you, so you didn't care so long as you were getting paid.
You have to 'care' about a quality of a person, besides just money, if you want a person with quality, cream. Just because YOU have high values when it comes to your work ethic and your money managing abilities doesn't mean any other person is going to have the same ethics.
For that reason ^^^^^ is why people are SUPPOSE to choose their roommates according to conditions for compatibility, in as many areas as possible to make a good fit ... not JUST because of money.
"i also want the to work for the best"
Is that suppose to say ... i also want "them" to work for the best?
You cannot choose a person based on what you want them to do in their life .. they are going to do what they want to do .. you have to choose them because they actually possess the qualities that you seek.
It's almost like you have this Blind-spot ..... you WANT them to have money to give you, and you WANT them to regard working as you do .... so because you want this, you just pick people who has a job, eventhough you are aware that they are lame and dumb and lazy.
That's like voting for Bush, eventhough you know, and then bitch when he fucks up.
"next the guy i was dating needed a place i should have known cus he got kicked out btu not sure what for the reason he gave me was lame"
"my other roomy moved her bf in so they could save together"
"i am a taurus women very independent, but i love money and i love my friends to have the best but i also want the to work for the best"
The problem here sounds pretty simple, cream .... you have a love for money, which is ok, however, this affinity for the dollar is causing you to put it ahead of being discerning for quality. What I mean is that you are in need of roommates, and so only consider "money" as a means of choosing who's going to live with you.
Your choices are coming from this greed for $ $ $ $ $ $ and not any forethought put into it .. only hindsight to be disgruntled.
Whether these people are Pisces, or not .. doesn't change your method of choosing .. they just happened to be Pisces.
Person #1 .. you knew was young and dumb, but, you figured what the hell, she has a job .... #2 gave you lame excuses .. #3 you didn't even choose at all, someone else did who was paying you, so you didn't care so long as you were getting paid.
You have to 'care' about a quality of a person, besides just money, if you want a person with quality, cream. Just because YOU have high values when it comes to your work ethic and your money managing abilities doesn't mean any other person is going to have the same ethics.
For that reason ^^^^^ is why people are SUPPOSE to choose their roommates according to conditions for compatibility, in as many areas as possible to make a good fit ... not JUST because of money.
"i also want the to work for the best"
Is that suppose to say ... i also want "them" to work for the best?
You cannot choose a person based on what you want them to do in their life .. they are going to do what they want to do .. you have to choose them because they actually possess the qualities that you seek.
It's almost like you have this Blind-spot ..... you WANT them to have money to give you, and you WANT them to regard working as you do .... so because you want this, you just pick people who has a job, eventhough you are aware that they are lame and dumb and lazy.
That's like voting for Bush, eventhough you know, and then bitch when he fucks up.

"a virgo move in she was in town for 1 week found a job the 3rd say she was here and is eager to began working she also does music and is foundign out ways to make other money"
And here it is again .. you basing who you're going to live with according to money. There's other things in life for people to be happy and compatible, besides just how much money they have, or, are willing to get. This Virgo woman could be a complete ass-wipe in every other way ... you don't know that.
You can only see ..... money, money, money >>>>> for decision making.
Question: You said one of these Pisces was a man you were dating .... and to quote you ... "he cared more about his car and bike clubs and his stupid dawg more than paying his shar e he never once gve me a dime and left and said he shoudnt be responsible cus he not on the lease" ..... so, my question is: You would just move a man in like that when you don't even KNOW him? If you didn't know that he cared more about his dog, and toys more than anything else, then you didn't know this man, to whom you were just dating, enough to have him move in to live with you ..... but, but, but .. you thought he had money !!!! And not one word about how this dating man treated you, or cared about you as a person .... just money .. he never gave you a dime.
You're only focus, even when it comes to your heart with a dating dude .. is all about money.
And that ^^^^^ is the energy you are putting out, so greedy people who only think about what they want will find you .. such as, the girl who only wanted to spend her money on weed, the dating dude who wanted to spend all his money on his toys, the other guy/SO of your friend left saying he'll pay money but doesn't because he keeps it for himself.
You attract greedy people to you because this is what you call for.
With your new Virgo roommate ... you also attracted a money-hungry person to you, she will look for ways to make as much money as she can, and you HAVE to really look at that for what it is. A person, such as your new Virgo roommate who is consumed with making a dollar, cream, doesn't do this for you to have their money .... they do this for themselves to their money.
I'm only trying to point out to you WHY you are finding these kinds of roommates, so you can see the logic here and try to find people to live with you for their integrity as a person for quality and not just for a buck.
And here it is again .. you basing who you're going to live with according to money. There's other things in life for people to be happy and compatible, besides just how much money they have, or, are willing to get. This Virgo woman could be a complete ass-wipe in every other way ... you don't know that.
You can only see ..... money, money, money >>>>> for decision making.
Question: You said one of these Pisces was a man you were dating .... and to quote you ... "he cared more about his car and bike clubs and his stupid dawg more than paying his shar e he never once gve me a dime and left and said he shoudnt be responsible cus he not on the lease" ..... so, my question is: You would just move a man in like that when you don't even KNOW him? If you didn't know that he cared more about his dog, and toys more than anything else, then you didn't know this man, to whom you were just dating, enough to have him move in to live with you ..... but, but, but .. you thought he had money !!!! And not one word about how this dating man treated you, or cared about you as a person .... just money .. he never gave you a dime.
You're only focus, even when it comes to your heart with a dating dude .. is all about money.
And that ^^^^^ is the energy you are putting out, so greedy people who only think about what they want will find you .. such as, the girl who only wanted to spend her money on weed, the dating dude who wanted to spend all his money on his toys, the other guy/SO of your friend left saying he'll pay money but doesn't because he keeps it for himself.
You attract greedy people to you because this is what you call for.
With your new Virgo roommate ... you also attracted a money-hungry person to you, she will look for ways to make as much money as she can, and you HAVE to really look at that for what it is. A person, such as your new Virgo roommate who is consumed with making a dollar, cream, doesn't do this for you to have their money .... they do this for themselves to their money.
I'm only trying to point out to you WHY you are finding these kinds of roommates, so you can see the logic here and try to find people to live with you for their integrity as a person for quality and not just for a buck.

Pa
Lol $ $ $ show me the money $ $ $
You crack me up. What you say is very true.
I think your interpertation of pisces being lazy is simply a misinterpertation. We tend to live our lives feeling what is right for us. Apparently you never felt right to the pisces. You are a taurus which means you probably had some kind of controlling behavior that does not appeal to the fish. You could never understand a fish or appreciate a fish's outlook on life because you thrive on a sense of stability and security that simply does not exist. Look at the state of our economy. Everything is changing and you don't even see it.
Pd
Lol $ $ $ show me the money $ $ $
You crack me up. What you say is very true.
I think your interpertation of pisces being lazy is simply a misinterpertation. We tend to live our lives feeling what is right for us. Apparently you never felt right to the pisces. You are a taurus which means you probably had some kind of controlling behavior that does not appeal to the fish. You could never understand a fish or appreciate a fish's outlook on life because you thrive on a sense of stability and security that simply does not exist. Look at the state of our economy. Everything is changing and you don't even see it.
Pd
ok , first of all i thank every one for there comments second i only put a little of what has happened to me. the chick moved in cus she had nowhere to go i let her move there cus i was being nice and that made my judgement wrong if it was but i let her know that she had to pay rent i dont mind helpin someone out but if you have the same educational backround in good health you should be trying to work so you will have somewhere to live right? i asked her while she was at home could she keep the house lean and she tried to aregue with me about that. now my boyfriend yes i was wrong i liked him alot but he wasnt there long because i realized he settled for goin to the club everyday of the week drinking and clubing while he left his "precious pit" with her new puppies at my house and expected me to take care of them but yet acted as if she was gold my other roommate moved her bf that was her descion we had a apartment he had a apartment that he couldnt afford by himself by himself so him moving in with 2 steady jobs was going to be a lot of weight lifted off of me and him as well and after a month he quit his full time one and got fired from his part time and just sat around the house all day when i was nt home and acted liek he had been looking for a job so maybe i did make some bad judgements but how is this my fault it maybe greed but at the same time im tryin to maintain. my new roommate is someone i have known for a while and she is not staying long but it just seem like al the pisces i know are like this very dependant and dont except there own actions when they are put in the spotlight they try to fip it into the others person fault. just like my roomy boyfriend asked her why she cant take care of the bills both of there when we werr splitting in three just liek my ex said he shouldnt have to pay anything since his name is nt on the lease but yet her eat slept and bathed there for a month and when he moved in we had a agreement as well....all others one i know either are 25 still living with parents or there parents or girlfriends or boyfriend take careof them while they play all day ive read in other places about them and they all seem to fit now im not saying they all are like this but wow i just know when i see this sign im goin to run dont get me wrong they are great friends very fun people
and to pisces dream ....i am a taurus which means that we are kind hearted people with a mother nature i can care less what a fish does but when they are living with me for free and they are just as capable of workign just like i am then NO I DONT UNDERSTAND!!!

Well than let it go and chalk it up as you have made some bad decisions. What do you want us pisces people to do..... Agree that us pisces are a bunch of lazy loosers and feel sorry for you? I am not real clear on what your objective is other than to catagorize the fish as being something you clearly don't understand?
Pd
Pd
and to pisces dream ....i am a taurus which means that we are kind hearted people with a mother nature i can care less what a fish does in the free time or with there life as long as they tak ecare of there responsibilty and when they are living with me for free and they are just as capable of working just like i am then NO I DONT UNDERSTAND!!! pleas elet me i am not a contolling taurus we only charge when theres a red flag i dont like confrontation thats why i let her stay so long cus i didn tjust wanna kick her to the curb so while i can understanf you being offended because i made a judgement you did as well yes i do control my house if not i would be on the streets just like all 3 of them now each one of them are living house to hius enow because no one is as stupid as i am to take care of them trust me i know the people the are crying out to and they are not taurus

"i can understanf you being offended because i made a judgement"
to cream, just to clarify .... Pisces_Dream wasn't offended by what you said, for Pisces people don't take things personally when it doesn't involve them specifically.
She said ... "What do you want us pisces people to do..... Agree that us pisces are a bunch of lazy loosers and feel sorry for you? I am not real clear on what your objective is other than to catagorize the fish as being something you clearly don't understand?"
Which means she's taking an impersonal stance, rather than a subjective one.
to cream, just to clarify .... Pisces_Dream wasn't offended by what you said, for Pisces people don't take things personally when it doesn't involve them specifically.
She said ... "What do you want us pisces people to do..... Agree that us pisces are a bunch of lazy loosers and feel sorry for you? I am not real clear on what your objective is other than to catagorize the fish as being something you clearly don't understand?"
Which means she's taking an impersonal stance, rather than a subjective one.

Agreed pa!
Again the question is what is your objective??
It is clear the objective is to come on here to insult and generalize about people because of their sun sign.
So what I was saying is I don't think cream understands piscean nature and since we are generalizing it is true bulls do tend to be controlling and crave stability and security.
1 fish WILL NOT be controlled
2 fish go with the way an environment feels including the people in it. If it does not feel good we leave
3 fish does have a very caring nature and will shine through with the right people
4 lazy is not a trait of the fish. We have the ability and intelligence to do a million things at once.
In my opinion the bull is WAY too conventional for the fish. The fish is innovative in the way they live their lives. The bull thrives on what the general standard is. Ex: the bull could never live with a starving artist. They would never be able to understand the life style or appreciate it.
Make sense? That is why I am saying the bull wld never be able to understand the fish...period.
I don't take anything personal especially on a forum with people who don't know me or from people who see life through tunnel vision.
Pd
Again the question is what is your objective??
It is clear the objective is to come on here to insult and generalize about people because of their sun sign.
So what I was saying is I don't think cream understands piscean nature and since we are generalizing it is true bulls do tend to be controlling and crave stability and security.
1 fish WILL NOT be controlled
2 fish go with the way an environment feels including the people in it. If it does not feel good we leave
3 fish does have a very caring nature and will shine through with the right people
4 lazy is not a trait of the fish. We have the ability and intelligence to do a million things at once.
In my opinion the bull is WAY too conventional for the fish. The fish is innovative in the way they live their lives. The bull thrives on what the general standard is. Ex: the bull could never live with a starving artist. They would never be able to understand the life style or appreciate it.
Make sense? That is why I am saying the bull wld never be able to understand the fish...period.
I don't take anything personal especially on a forum with people who don't know me or from people who see life through tunnel vision.
Pd

A lot has to do with approach, when dealing with a Pisces, cream. For example, let's look at M'Lady's (PD) #1 .. fish WILL NOT be controlled.
" .. i let her know that she had to pay rent i dont mind helpin someone out but if you have the same educational backround in good health you should be trying to work so you will have somewhere to live right?"
Now, if you said that to her .. the part about "you should be trying to work so you will ...", then that came across to this girl as you trying to control what she is to do ... because it's using the word "should".
I don't know if you used this word with her, or not .. I'm just saying that if you did, then her tailfins went up and from that point forward, anything you said to her was of no importance.
" .. i asked her while she was at home could she keep the house lean and she tried to aregue with me about that .."
And it would all depend on how you approach her on this ^^ also. If you made the suggestion that her responsibility would be the whole house, even someone elses mess, then I could see her tailfins going up about that.
If you want to have a relationship with a Pisces (any kind of relationship) .. then you have to realize how we are to be approached to get us to respond to you. If you come across as though your intention is to lay demands on us, or tell us what we should, or should do ... then you've lost the ability to get us to "hear" anything you say to us
" .. i let her know that she had to pay rent i dont mind helpin someone out but if you have the same educational backround in good health you should be trying to work so you will have somewhere to live right?"
Now, if you said that to her .. the part about "you should be trying to work so you will ...", then that came across to this girl as you trying to control what she is to do ... because it's using the word "should".
I don't know if you used this word with her, or not .. I'm just saying that if you did, then her tailfins went up and from that point forward, anything you said to her was of no importance.
" .. i asked her while she was at home could she keep the house lean and she tried to aregue with me about that .."
And it would all depend on how you approach her on this ^^ also. If you made the suggestion that her responsibility would be the whole house, even someone elses mess, then I could see her tailfins going up about that.
If you want to have a relationship with a Pisces (any kind of relationship) .. then you have to realize how we are to be approached to get us to respond to you. If you come across as though your intention is to lay demands on us, or tell us what we should, or should do ... then you've lost the ability to get us to "hear" anything you say to us
cream22 only advice i can give is IT IS BEST TO LIVE ALONE..because i can say for the most part just like u didnt understand the pisces,,they sure didnt understand u...and thats okay..i have had roomates in the past and it was more difficult for me because i was very particular about how i like my house..and most roomates i had said i was too tidy or neat,,etc...i liked what i like....thats why u work hard too be able to afford to live alone,,it is so much peaceful..so take it with a grain of salt,move on and learn from your mistakes,,and like p angel,,,u also should look for a roomate if u have to have one who is more compatible on all levels..u should take your time and look for a roomate,,because compatabilty truly matters

may be best to use a professional service or learn how to do it professionally - take deposits, ID photocopies, credit checks, etc...that way anyone you get will act professionally so sign DOES NOT matter --- you just pay your bills.
Personally, I've never heard of friends work out as roommies
Personally, I've never heard of friends work out as roommies
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