Can't pull myself away from a very selfish Piscea

I was involved in a relationship last year with a Piscean male, well it was all working out fine until he decided to say the Love word one month into the relationship. Btw his excuse was that it was the alcohol he had drank that night. Then a few weeks after that he said that he loved me again, and yes, once again he blamed it on alcohol(that second time he wasn't even drunk). During the course of this relationship we had both decided to become a monogamous..errr well at least I thought we did, because low and behold behind my back he was having unprotected sex ,with some drug addict girl who has a reputation for being extremely promiscuous.( btw she just has his baby in October). My only feelings, or so I thought for this guy were lust and infactuation, but when he put my health( we always used condoms) at risk I got pissed, I mean really pissed( I'm a Leo, with a Capricorn rising and a Scorpio moon, and revenge was so much sweeter than Xmas). So time went by where I didn't talk to him and then about 2 weeks ago we started talking again. He claims he had forgiven for all the shit talking I did behind his back and directly to his face. I actually forgave him , but I will never forget his lies and deceit, umm he still lies and is full of dishonesty to other people, hence I will never trust him. But why in the hell am I still drawn to this guy? There is nothing that I want from him nor do I want to change him, it utterly frustrates me that for some assinine reason I am still drawn to this guy. The only attraction I have for him is a physical one. Believe it or not I actually understand Piscean males(that's why in the past I had always avoided them., you can never truly know Piscean males inside and out, but at the very least you can understand them. I also found out that this guy had strong feelings for me, stronger than he wanted to admit.(his actions spoke way-over-the-top louder than any words). I also know that any friend he hangs out with he is dishonest to them about the things he has done to others. I know this guy has absoultely no concept of reality. Somehow he touched of piece of my frozen cynical heart. I'm not sure exactly when that happend. But I do know it happened..ok now how the hell do I get this drug addicted, alcoholic, acts like a 10 yr child dead beat dad out of my life once and for all?

Any concrete advice on how to get rid of this Piscean male—. 😉

Uh,tell the drug addicted,alcoholic,acts like a 10 year old,dead beat dad to get the hell out of your life once and for all and inforce it-duh.You don't want to be there,you have no idea why you want to be there,get the fcuk out and don't talk to him,it's not that freakin hard you'll just be a b/tch who did something wrong to him the rest of your living life and maybe after if you die before him though,pisces are usually always victem players-that like a rule for some except for the few freaks who don't buy into thier sunsign too much and are mature enough to admit faults and don't put themselves in shady peoples lives.Some aren't that bad though as an incentive,he's actually a freak pisces.

Tiamat
I've told him off once before, but like a boomerang he keeps coming back. Like I said before, I am drawn to him for some odd reason. This guy is extremely introverted, until he gets intoxicated, then all those bottled up secrets and feelings come blabbering out.
Tiamat ..whomever you are...chill out because your tempermant is rarely childish.

" Tiamat ..whomever you are...chill out because your tempermant is rarely childish."

You shouldn't broadcast your problems if you could not take it.

Dear little Haffo...

I asked for concrete advice, not the rantings and ravings of a 26 yr old females' psychotic tempermant. I shall post what I choose, and when I choose little haffo.

Hahaha

Typical Lionesse.

You want a concrete answer? Sure

IF YOU CANNOT TAKE PEOPLE AS THEY ARE THEN DONT BORADCAST YOUR PROBLEMS.

Oh and one more thing

If you think you are that smart, why you have problems then?

And finally:

Butt off with such stupid remaks and problems.

Was I clear?

If not then hang yourself.

"I shall post what I choose"

hahaha

That is obviously one way logic for you isnt it? Poor poor lionesse.

Poor poor..

You are obviously not here for an advise. You are much more for ranting here. Every Pisces can see this here and wont post any answer.

Cheers..

" I asked for concrete advice"

It was a concrete answer, but you are obviously not for it here so you have not noticed it.

Anyway

Thanks for good laught.

I hope to see more stupid people like you here around. They make my boring day entertained.

"Can't pull myself away from a very selfish Piscea"

Hahaha. Look at topic name. Selfish? Ouch. Who do you think you are? An angel? Look at your own answers and tell me who is selfish. Lol.

Hey Haffo give your superego and ego a break from their daily over-grinding. Hmm don't you have some mens' feet to bath in one your famous Turkish "All Male" bath houses...ehhh Haffo—

Just as an incentive,what my temperment is-is just bluntness and common sense.As far as the psychotic female thing,im not the one in a relationship in which I have no logical or emotional reasons for,in otherwords I know why im in my own and is treated very well by him.You asked for advice I told you advice,if you don't want to be with him-get rid of him and stick to it,forget about the "odd" reason and use self control.Be a b/tch to him and get it through his head that you do not want to be there,there are other people here who would have alot more fun with this than I am literally just to bother you,I on the other hand gave you very sound advice and it's just the blunt factor that your not liking.Your supposedly a leo with a scorpio moon two fixed signs and then caps is another good sign fot that start acting like it and stick to your word with him.

Go Haffo! Go Tiamat! It's your birthday, not a holiday! (Laughs.) I'm just playing around, you guys.

lol,is this giving you more bad thoughts about the scorpios being overpowering for pisceseans dreamy eyes?I approach things differently all the time so really it's not that surprising for an aggressive posts once in awhile,it needed to be said in a rude manner to get the point across is how I viewed it.I am a normal scorpio in that manner,lol,that and the post seemed too laughable for any woman with any amount of self respect or intelligence in them.

I can smell the smell of psychologist.

I can smell the smell of a psycologist.

What do you mean?Or did you get the suspecion this post was fake too?

Fake no.

But since she mentioned about superego and ego, I suspect she is a psychologist or someone who interested in it. It's not a common words to be used by ordinary mortal people.

Hmm but now thinking if she was a psycologist she would be all to used to seeing this stuff and know it's not good for her and have a pretty good idea about how to handle it unless she views him as a pateint instead of a lover but again not good and should be easy for her to psycho-analyse herself too.Maybe we could probably bug 19eleven to state about what she thinks on it,dunno,she IS a pyschologist who posts here.

Yeah right.

She would deal with problems without us, obviously.

Then she is simply a person interested in this stuff, but doesnt have enough knowledge to control emotions that deep.

And why did you think that this post is "fake"?

The intire post is laughable and falls intirely into branhs women are too emotional posts.Shes the apitamy of the non-thinking and just feeling,urge chasers women he is talking about if this post is true.There was the thought of it pssibly being fake because it was so dense witted but it could be true too so what was said was said for that reason-to get her head out of her butt and stop blaming other people for HER problem pretty much.

Well honestly people are soo different. I face with people like she is in real life and I just think "Ouch, her head is in her butt" as you mentioned. Yeah funny, but real. Take Cancerlady and her P-Man example. She wasnt that much sure about him in the beginnign and still allowed him to make her pregnant. I have suspicion that she actually wanted this pregnancy no matter whereither this man gonna be with her or not, but I also give a chance that her hear was in her butt. All possible. The woman of this post is also very possible to be real, because as I given the examples, there are many of them around.

I really cant understand people who make actions without thinking ahead. I find them truly dumb and worthless of my time to be wasted. This one is perfect example of it. I dont really care what was the details of her problem in her post, I just noticed that her head is in her butt and made a conclusion. Whatever her problem is, the main problem of her tactless behaviours clouds many real possibilities of positive conclusions.

Look at what she says:

"Btw his excuse was that it was the alcohol he had drank that night. Then a few weeks after that he said that he loved me again, and yes, once again he blamed it on alcohol(that second time he wasn't even drunk)."

"During the course of this relationship we had both decided to become a monogamous..errr well at least I thought we did, because low and behold behind my back he was having unprotected sex ,with some drug addict girl who has a reputation for being extremely promiscuous.( btw she just has his baby in October)."

Isn't it obvious that he is running from an answer? And what the hell? He made some other woman pregnant during of the relationship with someone else? And now this woman still thinks that she has some feelings toward him? Where is self respect here? None.

"He claims he had forgiven for all the butter talking I did behind his back and directly to his face. I actually forgave him , but I will never forget his lies and deceit, umm he still lies and is full of dishonesty to other people, hence I will never trust him."

Eww...She forgave him? And still hangs with this guy? Give me a break...

"I also know that any friend he hangs out with he is dishonest to them about the things he has done to others."

Another good sign to forgave him...

"I know this guy has absoultely no concept of reality."

Her reality...

"But I do know it happened..ok now how the hell do I get this drug addicted, alcoholic, acts like a 10 yr child dead beat dad out of my life once and for all?"

And after all that she did, she still doesnt think about hanging herself—?

"Like I said before, I am drawn to him for some odd reason."

Unknown reasons make her act according to them? What a tactless behaviour...

" Tiamat ..whomever you are...chill out because your tempermant is rarely childish."

And she still thinks she is smart...

Yeah,he has feelings but he's still being a prick because he obviously doesn't want to seriously take on this relationship.Shes wanting the fantasy of "he's finally gonna do it" to happen but thats what it is,is a fantasy,she wants to be in love but until she gets self respect and does what she needs to do for her to happen first it won't,and sure there is always the slim chance he'll come around.BUT thats a fat chance in hell when it comes to reality,trying to stay with someone for a fantasy,dissappointment from not getting it,turns to hate leads to more problems and boom your screwed up even more than you could've imagined and see all the things you did wrong by staying for only the fantasy.Theres a really good chance she will end up wishing she did ignore that weird,unexplainable reason by putting herself in check and looking for someone who will openly take her seriously.

Also this could be her that doesn't want it because she hasn't really forgiven it but the motivation to staying in it is still in the above post,THE FANTASY of LOVE,ooooo.Damn it,im horny thinking about prince charming and flowers now😛

"Theres a really good chance she will end up wishing she did ignore that weird,unexplainable reason by putting herself in check and looking for someone who will openly take her seriously."

Do you have any idea what makes people act like that? Its obviously some unxplained reason persist that make her act in that way, but submissing to it without knowing what the result will be...isnt kinda tactless? Dont people see that? Or any other explainations?

It's carelessness yes because thats what love is but it is usually always obtained by expecting real things to be in front of you.Ya know,the type of carelessness love is so fantasized about is if you were a parent of a child you'd have absolutely no problem putting yourself between the child and danger rather than the child being hurt through selflessness,real love,but those are those very,very rare occassions that love is tested in that way and doesn't include being treated with less importance than the other person thinks they are worthy of.Love is most of the time tested through being together and working together by each making sacrifces not just one of them,to each other and your kids are more tested by love through resposablity to each other,it's boring and dull to most people.

You are comparing love to your child with love to your partner? I don't think they are same.

You see life itself is collection of emotions that come and go, just like love to the partner (others are: for job, for good living etc). Everything is obviously based on them. Therefore you have plenty of choises. You can have dozens of love relationships thorught your life and every time it will be different person. Yeah you may love them, but thinking that there are other choises or partners in the world is exactly what differs from child love. You child is one and only one example in the world. Therefore unique. You don't have a substitute for them. You will obviously jump on defencive line for them just because they are unique. Of course there is one more part that needed to enforce this idea. It is that your kids are part of your bloodline. They can't change that. And nor you can. They are actually unique in that way. You partners of love are not in that way (until you have kids with them). But after you have kids, yes the reality about them changes into unchangable way (you can't undo kids). This is where selfless might enter into scene for your husband and kids. But for love partners? Give me a break...

The point is that through all the relationship trials you start feeling that deeply about your partner through all that stuff,they do become a part of your family too when you fall in love without having kids yet.Thats why the child thing was used because everyone understands those feelings,it can turn into the same feelings as you have for your child,parents and siblings even with partners after you've been together for so long,it's the type of passionate feelings that are felt for your family as you start feeling for your partner when you are in love with someone.The type that are going to always be felt for them even if it doesn't work out,theres always a place for that type of partner love that remains with the person after it's failed too.Like for instance,my grandmothers cousins girlfriend(no kids between them)died but she was still the person he thought about until the day he died as well they didn't go away,thats what makes the difference with the feelings between some compared to others is the ones that have those effects on you.

He was 20 when she died and he died at 78 a couple years ago.

Oh interesting.

I take them as delusions and fantasies.

Love is something people made up too feel better and make mating process more "honorable". Altought, the reality of love is actually a delusiona and fantasy. Maybe this is something that women made up for men to choise best one for them (this is women problem of all times, to choise better ones, that why they want to think about romantism, knight in shining armour etc, bring new challanges for men and choise best one etc). But all in all I again say, love is just a delusion and fantasy. Women want to beleive into that because this is might be satisfying their feminie nature.

Of course people can be loyal to their dreams, fantasies and finally dilusions just like love. As I said before, feelings come and go. They are just that - feelings. For one moment you feel something and for another moment you are feeling something different. You simply can't base your life and reality over them because they have no substantial form and positive benefit (unless it's untrained, trained one can be used in some ways, for example inspiring people etc). This is why I cannot stand Cancer women (or moody people in that matter) because they cannot divide their emotions from reality. Their reality is their emotions and that is no no for me.

But kids, are not emotions anymore. Nor your family. Your love relationship with someone is just emotions. Or if you married them its emotions + marriage document or paper or whatever you call it. For you as person is has little benefit, maybe emtional joy fun etc, but it cannot guide your life. So, when situaiton comes to reality check such as having kids and self respect (yeah it works here too) you cant base your judgement about them on your emotions (yeah of course you partially base your judgement on them yes, but they are never above things that change your life into way that has no way back such as kids and self respect). What makes people handle with reality is not their emotions, but their "decitions". People decide to have kids, people decide to have self respect. They do not judge situation by giving themselfs to their emotions, but they simply decide. If you have feelings for someone, then you and him are together .... hell no. You also decide to do so. And decition is far far more on top of feelings.

People decide to have delusions (such as love) and fantasies about their perfect mate etc. They do not base on feelings. They decide. And that is what matters.

Some people decide according to their emotions (Fire signs and this woman apparently), some decide according to logic.

You cant have self respect without not seweing situation trought logic and acting selfless. You are simply slave of your emotions and all I can say in this situations is good luck and god help you with your mistakes...

Haffo,you missed the point,im not refering to fantasy or acting on emotions in being moody to be in love.The type of love im refering to doesn't go away,they aren't the normal emotions that your going to feel on a day to day basis for just anyone.It doesn't guide you or make your life,thoughts,reality,etc revolves around it.It's not always fun,it can be the most boring and dull times in your life,annoying,etc. just like you'd feel for your family.When people say they get over a relationship it's the pain,anger,adjesting to being alone,getting your head straight,all those type of emotions that are settled,it's when after all that stuff certain people still have a place in your head as being seen as a best friend whos become as much of an effect on you as a family member would.It is that type of love is what it is,not chasing whims or being drama queens(cancers) and idealizing love to the point it's stupid and unreasonable,if it was a whim yes you could get over it and never think about that person again.Men not women made up love,just to be more honorable,women were submissive for centuries in that way remember.It's the first part of building your own family BEFORE you start a family with them,it's a partnership moreso than just emotions,emotions as you stated can come and go with no problems in a actually very small amount of time then people think it will.

Thats why people usually get married(not anymore though,it's usually whim marriages that leads to divorces anymore mainly)Cause if that was the case your own parents don't have self respect,thought or logic because they fell in love and started a family,that theory doesn't work when some families are started based on it alone and have it work.You have self respect by being choosy and knowing what you deserve,looking for what you'd want from a partner,look for most of those things and if the person treats you the way you deserve to be treated and have those traits than you start considering this person to the possibility of love,you can control it.So yes it is a decision and you choose to have kids and be in love but that also doesn't mean that when someone says they are in love doesn't mean it's based on only emotions.It's a process of respecting each other,trusting each other and working out your problems because you want to be with that person like you would deal with a family member.

Thats the basis on the love relationships that has worked out for me,if for instance me and my boyfriend were to break up again we would still be very good friends
(he knows me as a family member would and actually better than my family as well as vice versa) for the rest of our lives is what my own relationships are based on.That type of feelings is what it is cause by and honestly im having trouble explaining the "feelings" thing because everythings logical coming to mind for the reasons that may be very cold or maybe even needy to some of the passion chasers,who consider selfless stuff is to allow yourself to be treated badly by the person you "love".I don't want to sound like branh or give you the idea of it as the opposite extreme to it.If they loved you and you loved yourself you wouldn't allow it to happen and they themselves really wouldn't want to either.

And haffo,you know very well starsigns don't mean anything so that doesn't mean anything and fire signs are emotion based signs,it's the air and earth signs that are the actual logical signs not fire signs by astrologys standards.Fire signs are impulsive,animalistic signs is what fire signs "astrologically" go by,water signs are intuition and emotions followers,it's one in the same,both of the elements go by emotions if it was based on that so your being a pisces doesn't make yourself look good by using that.

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BTW I am not a psychologist, I'm a 3rd year grad. student in Molecular Biology. Just so you both know I'm not a female.

OH MY GOSH!!! JETJAG IS A GUY?!? EWWWW!!! YOU SO NASTY!

Gay or straight,
I'm not sure if Jet Lag wants to be out of this. It's almost like you're looking for an excuse to stay in. It's a mess, just get out of it.

lol,definately think it's fake now.You testing us or something jetjag?If not still the same your not wanting to let it go emotionally and you have to get out of it by putting your foot down and keeping it there.

lol...and I thought this thread couldn't get any weirder!

I never had any type of love emotions for that guy. . I know that you can't care for someone who doesn't have any self-respect for himself.

Yes Tiamat

This is % 100 fake topic.