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hey so when i was 16 i had the best friend i ever and will ever have in my entire life. me and this girl were connected by our souls. she knew me like the back of her hand, she always understood my jokes *i have a different sense of humor, a lot of people don't get it or cant tell when i am joking or being silly lol, only she knew*, she is the most trustworthy person i have ever met. everything i ever wanted in a friend, she was it. point blank period. she is irreplaceable. we were inseparable for about two years, then i got into a very verbally abusive and toxic relationship with a taurus who was older than me. he was controlling and manipulative. this affected my friendship with the pisces because i became very cold and distant *blame my libra rising smh*, she was extremely hurt and tried a few times to reach out to me but i was so far gone that i messed up my chances really bad. she moved on now, went to college in another state and has new friends, who are a cancer and aries *females* but i know that she understands what we had and how untouchable it is. the problem is.... everytime i try to reminisce and talk about what happened she turns very disengaging and cold.... doesnt want to go in depth about our situation. she has been hurt before by some of her family. i believe she has trust issues. her father left when she was young and i left her, we thought we were going to be best friends forever. i understand friends come and go but this girl is diffferent.

my girl friends now just dont match up to her intellectually and match up to how big her heart was and how honest, caring, and genuine she was. i really need her back in my life and i miss her terribly. oh by the way, its been almost 4 years since our "fight/fall out" and im literally a mess with out her... i just need to talk to her and have her be open with me but im scared shes going to think im just being sensitive or emotional but im really not. i really care about her.... i feel so bad about the person i was to her, i need to apologize to her sincerly and i want to be close friends again.

do i have a chance? why is she being so cold? should i just stop trying and move on? is she just acting? i need answers 😢


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Sun Taurus 17.52 Ascendant Libra 28.54
Moon Virgo 29.57 II Scorpio 27.12
Mercury Gemini 8.56 III Sagittarius 29.19
Venus Aries 20.16 IV Aquarius 3.54
Mars Leo 23.00 V Pisces 6.59
Jupiter Sagittarius 13.19 R VI Aries 5.29
Saturn Pisces 22.04 VII Aries 28.54
Uranus Aquarius 0.28 R VIII Taurus 27.12
Neptune Capricorn 25.32 R IX Gemini 29.19
Pluto Scorpio 29.34 R Midheaven Leo 3.54
Lilith Gemini 14.08 XI Virgo 6.59
Asc node Scorpio 5.34


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If it happens once, there's a chance it'll happen again. She probably doesn't want to get hurt again, so she may stay away. You say what you two had was special and important and she may have thought so too. But yet this special and important person pushed her away. She did what she could by trying to reach out. At that point, I would be done. If you continued to reject me even after that, then my feelings are changed and gone. They would never be the same. I can't stay whether that's why she is still distant or not, but if it were me in that situation, we would never go back to being close friends. Being open and honest about how you feel might help a little, but it wouldn't change much for me. It's not even that it would be due to a grudge. I probably would be fine and friendly and everything, especially after 4 years. But there'd be a feeling in the air whenever we talked that would prevent me from feeling connected again.
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Express yourself to her the way you did here and I guarantee this relationship can be mended. Pisces don't pull away in order to hurt people, but do it to protect ourselves. Once we realize that the other person sees how much they hurt us and are genuinely affected by it, we're able to forgive and resume a relationship with them. When we forgive, we do it all of the way, not half way.

Don't put too much emphasis on what you want from her as much as you emphasis what you want WITH her. Any indications that you need her strictly to fulfill your own emotional desires without intending on being what she needs will make her continue to back away. If you're constantly talking about why you have a lack, because she's not there, this might be why she's kind of still pulling away.
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Posted by MsTeeq1974
I'm going to swim out on a limb and say that there are some Pisces here who have been deeply hurt in friendships. I don't think it's fair to project. Pisces are VERY forgiving. So, why can't she win her friend back?

It's not impossible.
Never been hurt in a friendship, actually, so there's no projection. There's also a difference between forgiving and forgetting. Am I forgiving? Heck yeah. Do I forget? Nope, never. I'm saying from my point of view based on the things OP statement, it seems unlikely that it will be rekindled. Implying that my opinion, as well as those who have said similar things, is wrong isn't exactly fair, either. These are opinions. Neither of us is wrong since we do not know the outcome.
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*Based on the OP statement.
Along with correcting that, I will further explain why I think this. If the girl was actually interested in becoming close friends again, she would be acting different. She obviously has not forgotten the events that put them in the situation (since she apparently becomes distant and does not want to talk when the subject is brought up). Has she forgiven her? I don't know. I'm also not sure it matters. If she actually does have trust issues, then I think she'd be even more unlikely to take back the friendship than I, someone who trusts rather easily, would. But, as I've said, none of us know what she actually thinks or what she will do. We can only guess.
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You don't sound sincere, at all. In fact, the only thing you talk about is what you need and what you want.

You're obviously a user ..... good for her that she realizes what kind of a person you really are, and stepped away from you.

I'm happy for her that she realizes you're not worth it ... and I'm hoping that her friends now are genuine, unlike you, who only wants to satisfy yourself.
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Posted by RumiLove
Awwwww. *HUGS*

I wish she'd see this somehow. ðŸ™

Seriously Taurus, nobody cares about friendship so much these days and it was so touching to read your post! My heart is happy.

You are such a good person. Tell her all this, the way you expressed yourself here to her. Open up completely and sincerely. Keep trying. Tell her about the emptiness you feel when she left your life. She'll definitely reconnect with you.. Å 

It's not that she has got no mercy...she probably just accepted that people and relationships aren't permanent or worthy of giving herself to. I went through the same phase as her when I was 17-18.
Completely agreed.
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Posted by P-Angel

You don't sound sincere, at all. In fact, the only thing you talk about is what you need and what you want.

You're obviously a user ..... good for her that she realizes what kind of a person you really are, and stepped away from you.

I'm happy for her that she realizes you're not worth it ... and I'm hoping that her friends now are genuine, unlike you, who only wants to satisfy yourself.
Omg hahaha you need to go away.....
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Posted by Scenic
Remember that you're the one who hurt her, not the other way around. She simply has just reacted to your own actions. You can't really blame if she doesn't want to rekindle things. Being 17 doesn't make you any less guilty of causing her pain. I might sound like an asshole, but I don't believe anything I've said here in this post is false.
being 17 makes me a child, unaware of most values and boundaries when it comes to TRUE friendship.
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Posted by P-Angel

You don't sound sincere, at all. In fact, the only thing you talk about is what you need and what you want.

You're obviously a user ..... good for her that she realizes what kind of a person you really are, and stepped away from you.

I'm happy for her that she realizes you're not worth it ... and I'm hoping that her friends now are genuine, unlike you, who only wants to satisfy yourself.

you know who you remind me of LMAO, those evil people who spend their day writing whole hearted ruthless and horrible comments on youtube.

You dont know me at all, if you are going to come here and pass judgments like a child, maybe you should pass them more politely next time.
Our story is much deeper than a paragraph, I summarized it, do you want my phone number and address so you can sue me? And yes, this is about ME, because IM the one who messed up, and IM the one who suffers from it because she made ME a better person and I love her more than a friend, she was family to me, my sister, my soulmate. IM lost with out her. thats how much she means to ME. if you think i sound selfish, maybe you need to read my intial post again. im not over here complaining about surface problems like "oh my pisces isnt returning my calls i need someone to party with blah blah i need more friends". no, im over here asking for a second chance becauuse when i was 17 i wasnt a perfect little angel, i made mistakes, and being in a toxic and abusive relationship didnt make anything better! you know what, i dont have to explain myself to you, who are you??


Dont like how i express myself, dont listen!
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You don't sound sincere, at all. In fact, the only thing you talk about is what you need and what you want.

You're obviously a user ..... good for her that she realizes what kind of a person you really are, and stepped away from you.

I'm happy for her that she realizes you're not worth it ... and I'm hoping that her friends now are genuine, unlike you, who only wants to satisfy yourself.
Omg hahaha you need to go away.....
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SERIOUSLY, like her/his comment was so unnecessary like if youre not a pisces or youre not giving me INTELLECTUAL advice F**K OFF
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Posted by RumiLove
Awwwww. *HUGS*

I wish she'd see this somehow. ðŸ™

Seriously Taurus, nobody cares about friendship so much these days and it was so touching to read your post! My heart is happy.

You are such a good person. Tell her all this, the way you expressed yourself here to her. Open up completely and sincerely. Keep trying. Tell her about the emptiness you feel when she left your life. She'll definitely reconnect with you.. Å 

It's not that she has got no mercy...she probably just accepted that people and relationships aren't permanent or worthy of giving herself to. I went through the same phase as her when I was 17-18.
thank you! im going to try, i just feel that i messed up so bad that i owe it to her and return to how i was when we were 16 and inseparable, when i was in a toxic relationship it really took a toll on me. she knows that, but the only difference now is that shes not vulnerable anymore because its been many years, shes healed. but time doesnt change anything, i still think about her, and i still miss her, when we were together my happiness was on level 10. we could go to the food market and have a blast just because we were together. my only regret in life is losing her, if i could have anything, one wish, i would wish for her back. i could cry just talking about her. shes my angel. even when shes not around anymore she still makes me a better person because she taught me to hold on to what you love. i truly understand now that you dont know what you have until its gone. im only human and i make mistakes. it was my biggest mistake, letting her go.

but i came here because i really dont have much experience with pisces, like i said before, i know libras the best... i understand them. because im a libra rising also so its easy for me. but she was my first close pisces so i just dont know her logic. idk how she copes, if theyre the type to hide their feeelings, or if she really is over it? i dunno. gotta do more research.
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Posted by CaptainPimp
If she has her mind made up, you can;t do anything about it. If she believes it's not WORTH it.
If she thought even the slightest bit that it's worth it, she would give you a chance.

I had a girl friend who did the same to me. She stopped being friends cuz of her manipulative BF. Once that was over a few years later, she came crawling back.
I didn't wanna hear any of it 🙂. I mean i am with you through thick and thin, and you just throw me like that cuz of "love"? Fuck you.
Have some integrity, never loose friends like that again.

However. If she is still talking to you, i think there's a very slight chance. I would of shut you off completely.
You can keep trying and it's probably gonna take a while to build trust. But if it's sincere and she see's that it can end well.
If she senses you are just a user, nah.

The fact that you were 17 doesn't mean anything. You can think at that age.
thats really horrible that you did that to your "friend" you have NO idea what its llike being in an abusive relationship. friends are supposed to be there for each other no matter what.

being 17 is a major factor in this issue, i was child, i was in high school, i wasnt even an adult, everyone is different, some people mature at 16 and some mature at 23 from their childish ways. you can not make that assumption that children can think at 17. when i was 17 i was more concerned about going out and having fun, rather than "doing whats right" sorry thats just me. these are not excuses, this is the truth.
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Posted by mysteriousTaurus
it hurts me that she shows no mercy..
I think this is how my old Virgo and Aries friends from high school feel. Especially the Virgo, she has begged me to give her another shot and to come see her. She has told me that she still misses me, thinks of me and wishes she didn't screw up our friendship. I care for her but I don't care to connect to her and re-establish a friendship again.


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Remember that you're the one who hurt her, not the other way around. She simply has just reacted to your own actions. You can't really blame if she doesn't want to rekindle things. Being 17 doesn't make you any less guilty of causing her pain. I might sound like an asshole, but I don't believe anything I've said here in this post is false.
being 17 makes me a child, unaware of most values and boundaries when it comes to TRUE friendship.
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If that's truly what you believe. I was 17 only 5 years ago and I am very well aware of how few differences there is between being 17 and being an adult. A 17 year old can be living aware from home at college, making their own decisions and doing everything an adult (which is only a year difference) does. Really, it just sounds like you're making excuses for yourself so that you don't have to own up to your mistakes.
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Remember that you're the one who hurt her, not the other way around. She simply has just reacted to your own actions. You can't really blame if she doesn't want to rekindle things. Being 17 doesn't make you any less guilty of causing her pain. I might sound like an asshole, but I don't believe anything I've said here in this post is false.
being 17 makes me a child, unaware of most values and boundaries when it comes to TRUE friendship.
If that's truly what you believe. I was 17 only 5 years ago and I am very well aware of how few differences there is between being 17 and being an adult. A 17 year old can be living aware from home at college, making their own decisions and doing everything an adult (which is only a year difference) does. Really, it just sounds like you're making excuses for yourself so that you don't have to own up to your mistakes.
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are you not reading correctly?? this entire thread is about me clearly taking responsibility for the mistakes that i made when i was a child. Idk where you are from but at 17 i was a junior in high school lol. attitudes in High school and college are entirely different. idk what your sign is but if you dont believe in second chances, i just feel bad for you. it must be pretty dandy to be so perfect all the time. good luck having life long friends and meeting a suitable spouse who will meet up to your standards.
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Posted by dixie
My best friend in the entire universe is a Pisces like me. We got into a huge fight (we lived in kentucky then) and didn't speak to each other for 5 whole years...it would have been longer had we not bumped into each other in a grocery store in VIRGINIA. I saw her...I ignored her...she chased me down the Isle and said "are you still mad at me?" And she apologized profusely and I cried and 30 min later we were sitting at her house having coffee like we never seperated.

We can be stubborn...but if an apology is sincere and I do mean sincere..(we can sense if it's not) then the slate can be wiped clean.
aww thats really sweet, i think she may do the same once i see her face to face and give her a real apology. the only issue to getting her to meet!
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Posted by Scenic
You respond again saying you are a child.

"being 17 makes me a child, unaware of most values and boundaries when it comes to TRUE friendship."
This is clear as day an excuse. This is so much of an excuse that it could proudly be displayed as an example to the word in a dictionary.
Are you telling me at 17 that you could not understand right from wrong?

nope!!! i could care less from right and wrong at 17 and good use it in the dictionary, give me credit doe!! 😉
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You respond again saying you are a child.

"being 17 makes me a child, unaware of most values and boundaries when it comes to TRUE friendship."
This is clear as day an excuse. This is so much of an excuse that it could proudly be displayed as an example to the word in a dictionary.
Are you telling me at 17 that you could not understand right from wrong?

nope!!! i could care less from right and wrong at 17 and good use it in the dictionary, give me credit doe!! 😉
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I'm...honestly not sure what to say to that. People develop their morals and know right from wrong by the age of 5 and personality is mostly developed around this age as well. The only thing I can take from this is that you were and likely still are a very self absorbed person.
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It's good to be self reflective and learn/accept your faults. If you want to regain your old friendship, this might be in order. Once you've lost someone, a good way to regain their trust is to show you care about them and aren't just thinking about yourself. It's also good so that you can grow as a person. While I have tried to push your buttons a little bit, I will say this. From the view of a bystander, the things in this thread have showed you care almost entirely about yourself. Have you thought about other ways to try to regain her trust? You've said being honest about your emotions. Is there anything else? Do you know what is important to her in friendships? If you get it back, you need to think about these things as well so that you don't ruin it again.
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Posted by Scenic
It's good to be self reflective and learn/accept your faults. If you want to regain your old friendship, this might be in order. Once you've lost someone, a good way to regain their trust is to show you care about them and aren't just thinking about yourself. It's also good so that you can grow as a person. While I have tried to push your buttons a little bit, I will say this. From the view of a bystander, the things in this thread have showed you care almost entirely about yourself. Have you thought about other ways to try to regain her trust? You've said being honest about your emotions. Is there anything else? Do you know what is important to her in friendships? If you get it back, you need to think about these things as well so that you don't ruin it again.
clearly i dont know ways to gain her trust back if im here! but instead of giving me intelligent advice youre over here criticizing me and passing judgements when you dont know me. you kick people when they are down. you need to work on that. im not arguing with you anymore, its like talking to a brick wall
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You have come to the Pisces forum asking about Pisces. You are being given good advice and you are arguing and being confrontational and not LISTENING. I don't see your Pisces friend letting you back in.
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Shut the fuck up already don't u have anything better to do with your life than to stay on my thread criticising me ?? I get it, you think I'm selfish, fabulous. I'm begining to think this is less about me and more about you and how you're insecure and you LOVE bringing people down. Typical. Same shit diff day
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Posted by Arrius
When a Pisces is finished with you, they are finished. If we even think about taking you back, we immediately remember what you did, and all the pain that you caused us comes back. And because we have the capacity to live in the past, present and future simultaneously, the pain will be at its most intense. This probably happens every time you contact her. You're just painful for her to be around or to think about.

You're all done. But she may take it into her head to let you get close just so she can do a number on you, though we usually only expend that kind of energy if we're really angry . . . or bored. If you don't go away, she may decide to torture you. We have that side . . .

Learn from this, and move on.
She's not tht much of a low life... She's a good person
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Posted by mysteriousTaurus
You're rude and pretentious and have given me anything but advice. You have given criticism. That is all.
I agree with you. As a Pisces, I believe in second chances. As long as you have good intentions, attempt to win your friend back and regardless, all should be fine. In regards to the fact that you were 17 at the time, you're also right. I'm 41 and I've raised three kids. My 21 year old daughter is NOT the person she was at 17. I sure was more mature in my early 20s than I was at 17. I think it's great that you recognize that your lack of maturity at that age played a major factor in how you hanfled or mishandled the friendship.

Don't be discouraged by harsh judgements of perfect strangers. I hope everything works out.
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You're rude and pretentious and have given me anything but advice. You have given criticism. That is all.
I agree with you. As a Pisces, I believe in second chances. As long as you have good intentions, attempt to win your friend back and regardless, all should be fine. In regards to the fact that you were 17 at the time, you're also right. I'm 41 and I've raised three kids. My 21 year old daughter is NOT the person she was at 17. I sure was more mature in my early 20s than I was at 17. I think it's great that you recognize that your lack of maturity at that age played a major factor in how you hanfled or mishandled the friendship.

Don't be discouraged by harsh judgements of perfect strangers. I hope everything works out.
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Thank you so much. You're a really kind person and supportive. Thank you for handling a situation like this maturely and politely. Your 21 year old daughter is lucky to have a well mannered mother like you.
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