How to make a Pisces feel loved?

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Hi all! My first post on this board. I have been reading this Pisces board for quite some time trying to get more insights on my Pisces friends. Most of my Pisces friends to me, especially the guys, are the nicest people around. So genuinely nice all the time and sweet.hee...

There is this particular Pisces guy that I'm very in love with. I was wondering how can I make him feel more loved. I'm not sure whether he love me though I did express my feelings to him. He says he will still be my friend. Guess we're could only be friends. And I think I sort of scared him away (lol) cos' he haven't been replying to my emails.

The only time he will reply me is when I get really down with he not replying my emails...and he will tell me he's busy and encourage me to stay positive. But I hope we can talk like friends again...I don't want our only convensation be him encouraging me all the time. When I email him other stuff, he don't reply.

And I think I have been a little too harsh to him maybe. I try to let be honest with him as much as possible...but I guess reality hurts? But my intention wasn't bad, I just want to help him improve so that he can handle his emotions better and have a better career. I think I may be too direct but I try not to be harsh when I write to him. Maybe he took it the wrong way. Or maybe I should suggest anything to him. He should be able to handle his emotions himself.

He does make me confused a little sometimes.hee... Any suggestion to make him feel more loved? But maybe in a way that he'll not feel so stressed, cos' I think I maybe a little too possessive and email him a little too much. Guess he may need some space of his own. Maybe I should back-off a bit?

Haha...realised the more I write. The more "maybes" I wrote. Can someone offer me some advice, please?

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"And I think I have been a little too harsh to him maybe. I try to let be honest with him as much as possible...but I guess reality hurts? But my intention wasn't bad, I just want to help him improve so that he can handle his emotions better and have a better career. I think I may be too direct but I try not to be harsh when I write to him. Maybe he took it the wrong way. Or maybe I should suggest anything to him. He should be able to handle his emotions himself."


I think this is the paragraph which you need to think the most about when you reflect on why he seems confusing to you.

Pisces people can "feel" your emotions, notaBully. So, when you are talking to him (in person) .. he analyzes your words to see if they match your feelings. Pisces emotions are the ONE thing we have more control over than probably anything else, simply because we feel everything .. not just people, also, animals, plants, earths vibrations.

My point in saying this, is that you are under the impression that he can't handle his emotions .. and if you are under this impression then he can "feel" this inside of you as to the reason for your concern. Certainly, he can "feel" that this is coming from a place of concern, that is why he wants to remain friends and is probably endeared by this care you have inside for him .. but, he will also back off in another aspect because he also understands that you don't comprehend that he isn't in need of learning how to handle his emotions.

Directness doesn't bother us, and it doesn't seem harsh .. however, attempting to direct us, even for self-improvement does seem this way. Something you need to understand here .. Pisces people are repelled by any kind of change that is implied as necessary that comes from any person other than the self.

What I mean by this is that we believe every person should be self-aware, you, me, every person .. and we don't want to change for another person unless we deem it beneficial for ourselves and our relationship. Just as, we don't want the other person to change unless they deem it beneficial for themselves or your relationship. And, since I know he can "feel" your intentions .. he is comprehending that you desire for him to change. And though, this is for the betterment of him .. because it comes from someone other than himself, he will stand against it.

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"I try to let be honest with him as much as possible...but I guess reality hurts? But my intention wasn't bad, I just want to help him improve so that he can handle his emotions better and have a better career."


Take just these sentences, for example .. what you are saying is that you believe that he needs to handle his emotions and have a better career .. you try to be honest with him, meaning, you are telling him he where he needs to improve his emotions so that he can have a better handle on it .. and I would assume his reaction to this isn't what you expected because you would see it as him believing that reality hurts.

When the real reality, here, that you don't see is that .. his life is actually his own reality to live and not yours to direct for him, whether he errs, or not.
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Question:

If when he first expressed to you that he just wants to be regular friends, then went on to show it with his actions by keeping in occasional contact with you, encouraging you to remain positive, and responding with care when you get down with him for injuring your feelings (?), but, you want to have more, so are disregarding what he is expressing to you as to how he feels about you .. then why exactly do you feel like you are in a position to suggest to him that he isn't aware of himself?
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"Can someone offer me some advice, please?"


Yes, I can .. this man wants to be your friend .. just friends. And in so being one, friends just check in with each other from time to time, maybe hang out for a few drinks, or share jokes .. however, this isn't on as regular of a basis as it is found in a boy/girlfriend relationship.

So, my suggestion would be to consider him for what he is, and not what you want him to be .. perhaps, in time, after you get to know each other better, it may become more.

Pisces are very cautious people with others, because often their words/actions don't match their feelings .. so, for now, he's probably checking you out to see how aware you are of yourself, see how aware you are of him, of others, your environment. And since you now know he is likely analyzing you in the aspect trueness of feelings vs. actions, it would be advisable for you to take a little more time to reflect on yourself for personal growth.
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Hi thank you all for the advices and comments! It's overwhelming. I'm gone for about half a day and there's 30 posts. Thanks a lot, especially P-angel and moro.

Ok...how do I begin? Umm...let me first say that I'm a Taurus in case you all don't know. And sorry if my first post seems a little incoherent.

"Directness doesn't bother us, and it doesn't seem harsh .. however, attempting to direct us, even for self-improvement does seem this way. Something you need to understand here .. Pisces people are repelled by any kind of change that is implied as necessary that comes from any person other than the self.

What I mean by this is that we believe every person should be self-aware, you, me, every person .. and we don't want to change for another person unless we deem it beneficial for ourselves and our relationship. Just as, we don't want the other person to change unless they deem it beneficial for themselves or your relationship. And, since I know he can "feel" your intentions .. he is comprehending that you desire for him to change. And though, this is for the betterment of him .. because it comes from someone other than himself, he will stand against it."

Yes, I did have the desire for him to change for the better. I admit that but I wasn't trying to like enforce it on him. Just merely giving him another scenario and alternative for him to consider. Well, from my post of view, because I seeing him as my good friend, I'm want to be as honest to him...especially if he's is doing something wrong. I want to correct him and not just deluding him and says he is right. If you know what I mean. This is the way I show my care and concern for my friend. I don't want to be superficial.

But now I realise that what I did wrong after reading your post, P-Angel. I shouldn't impose the things I deemed "right" to him as what I deemed is "right" may not be "right". There isn't really right or wrong per se I guess. I also should have more faith in him that he should have the idea of what is right and wrong.

Ok, I think I should change my thread title a little. Instead of "how to make a Pisces feel loved" I actually want to say something like "how to make a Pisces feel cared for". I know he's not in love with me. Though I am still in love with him, I know we are just friends. I still want to care for him as friends, but I have used the wrong way of caring. What should I do?
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"When the real reality, here, that you don't see is that .. his life is actually his own reality to live and not yours to direct for him, whether he errs, or not."

Yes, I shouldn't direct him the way he lives his life. I'm actually aware of it. That's why I did ask him if I'm a busybody before...like care too much about his life. But he say I'm not. So I think I have a misinterpretation there...thinking he doesn't mind which in fact he does mind, but he doesn't want to hurt my feeling saying I'm a busybody. Am I right?

As a Taurus, I'm a bit slow and dumb when it comes to reading between the lines. hee...So if he didn't make his sentence explictly clear, I may not understand the real meaning of what he's trying to convey. But it's good to know that you all are helping me clear my doubts cos' being a Taurus I'm always seeking for the real answer.
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"notabully, you sound to me you are really putting pressure on this guy. You e-mailing him and he doesn't want to reply. This shows you are not that wanted as a company."

I know I'm putting too much pressure on him. That's why I decide to leave him alone and post in this forum instead because if I email him anymore to the point of irreversible, then I really going to blame myself for it. If he really doesn't want me as a company, that will really be very very sad to know. You all think I've been a bad company?

"I think that there would be only one movement you could do to bring him closer to you. That would be telling him that you really cared about him and you said these things and that you don't really know yourself everything. That it sounded to you better if he was going to use that approach and say you are sorry if you have hurt him at any time and that was not your intension."

I did say sorry to him and state my intention clearly to him that I was just trying to help and not forcing him to do what I suggest. But I was thinking if I'm too paranoid. Everytime I said sorry to him, he says don't have to be. Maybe he don't want me to feel guilty? But if he don't tell me that he what's is he feeling...then I won't know exactly what I did that he doesn't like.

Sometimes I do realise I think too much all the time. I think of the worst case and best case scenario all the times. I confused myself all the time. What is the real case scenario I can't trust myself to believe my gut.

"Also tell him you are going to be there if he wants to speak with someone about something that bothers him. That you are always going to listen (and DO if he asks) and then DO NOT contact him at all.

Let him do the step to say hello. "

Yes, I did this too. I even says I will not give any advice but just to listen. But I really afraid and worry that what if he will not say hello ever again. And then I will email him again...and there goes the vicious cycle. I don't know how long I should wait. The more I scare of losing him as a friend the more I beginning to lose him as a friend. I don't want this to happen but it's happening. Especially when I read the the forum here, people always says Pisces have the tendency to disappear.

I do know the problem lies with me, not him. I'm insecure. I really don't know how to become more secure. I really really don't want to lose him as a friend. But if I don't email him...I feel like I'm losing him. How do I st





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"Question:

If when he first expressed to you that he just wants to be regular friends, then went on to show it with his actions by keeping in occasional contact with you, encouraging you to remain positive, and responding with care when you get down with him for injuring your feelings (?), but, you want to have more, so are disregarding what he is expressing to you as to how he feels about you .. then why exactly do you feel like you are in a position to suggest to him that he isn't aware of himself?"

To keep you all in the loop. I only met him a few times but we exchanged emails for a couple of years. When I express my love to him, I'm not hoping for much. I say I hope even if he doesn't love me, he can at least see me as a friend. And so he says he sees me as a friend. So when he has confirm with me that I'm his friend, I was actually overjoyed (because I wasn't sure in the first place if he thinks me as a friend). Well, because we don't see each other most of the time...don't share activities together, so I wasn't so sure. Furthermore, I'm always the one writing to him and he only replies.

And so I think I was too overjoyed that I emailed him too much. lol. My definition of friends may be different from him...cos' I start sharing with him my emotions and thoughts more in depth and more personal. But then when he doesn't share any feelings of his when he was sad...I begin to worry again. Previously, before he says we are friends...sometimes I ask him why he was down, he would reply me. But now, no more. He sort of shut his inner world from me.

"Sounds to me that the whole story is a game already lost and there is only one movement to bring him closer before is too late."

Btw, moro...I never see love as a game. hee...Just don't want to repel him from me. Even if he falls in love with another, I'll still be around for him. But I hope he accepts my care and love for him as a friend. Just hope my care and love wasn't too hard for him to bear.
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"Pisces are very cautious people with others, because often their words/actions don't match their feelings .. so, for now, he's probably checking you out to see how aware you are of yourself, see how aware you are of him, of others, your environment. And since you now know he is likely analyzing you in the aspect trueness of feelings vs. actions, it would be advisable for you to take a little more time to reflect on yourself for personal growth."

Yes, I caught him in a lie once or twice. hee...But I never blame him though I did tell him. Cos' after reading this forum and other horoscopes analysis...and plus my own analysis (haha)...I don't think he lie with any malicious intent. It's just a couple of small lies. I just ask him to be more truthful to me next time. Because if not I'll get confused and maybe a little hurt...and maybe doubt our friendship.

Again, thank you, P-angel for the good advice. I should reflect on my personal growth and maybe get rid of my insecure issues. But how? I don't know.

What I know is I love him dearly, he's a very very nice guy. Great and wonderful person. He will always be my good good friend. =) I don't want to hurt him by trapping him and annoying him too much with my emails. So now I'm trying very hard not to email him...but I don't know how long this is going to last before I email him. When will be the right time to email him?

I think I should ban myself from using the internet altogether. haha... Anyway, thank you all for all the help.

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notaBULLY,

You're welcome .. I know that Pisces can be hard to figure out sometimes.

Here's just a few thoughts that struck me while reading your responses.

Vagueness: This is typical of our kind. Don't feel like you're the only person who has been left feeling that you're in the dark, many people get confused over this too because a lot of Pisces don't actually "say" what they feel or think with clarity. You are thinking that you're the dummy and that's probably not true .. we can be elusive and only make suggestions or insinuations, but, not really state out-right what it is we want to convey, a lot of the times. Reading between the lines is very necessary.

Friend/Comm: To not take the initiative in communication with a friend is also common for our kind. In fact, we've had this discussion in dxp about this several times .. many of us will NOT be the contactor with our friends .. they have to phone us. And it's not because we don't want to be friends with the person .. actually, I don't know why this is, but, it is one of our traits (most of us).

Lying/Truth, Right/Wrong: This is a big one that people fail to understand that's within us and I'll try to explain it for you. From the Piscean perspective, there is no right or wrong, truth or dishonesty .. there is only these conditions according to how a person feels. If a person is true to how they "feel" then that is right, that is honest .. even if it's a factual lie. People say they've caught us in lies and that is only a lie from a logical and factual standpoint, however, if that is how we "felt" at that moment, then it's the truth to us because we were being true to ourselves .. we are "feelings" based, notaBully .. not logically. I'm not defending your friend and saying he didn't lie to you .. I'm only explaining that how we measure what is right or wrong isn't based on societies interpretation, or moral interpretatation .. it's all about how a person feels and being true to themselves.

It's all about "feeling" to us .. if it feels right, then it is right, if it feels true, then it is the truth. Just like when I said that we measure people's emotions against their actions/words .. if you stood in front of me and told me an outright lie .. if this falsehood matched how you were feeling, then it was the truth to you, so it was right.
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"For me it really is that simple. I'm not being funny also but you mention that the only time he seems to reply to you is when you're feeling down or whatever. Please, please, please tell me you do not "invent" things just so you can hear from him!"

No, I didn't "invent" things just so I can hear from him. In fact, that is the reason I wanted to back off from him. Firstly, I don't want him to feel that I'm manipulating his feelings. Secondly, I don't want to pass all my negative energy to him. You know Pisces tend to put their feelings into other people's problem. When I tell him I down, it's mostly because he didn't reply my emails (I don't expect him to reply to all my emails...but when some time passed...I do get a little insecure...and that's why I feel down.)

I took his words seriously about being "positive" and have been trying hard to do so. But sometimes it's easier said than done...especially when I get insecure or when I overthink.

"Back off and chill out lol, find something else to focus your time on. The more you contact him the more you will annoy him, and eventually (down or not) the replies will stop.

I wish you all the best."

Thank you very much. I backing off right now and also trying to focus on myself like how to be more positive. But I still care about him but don't know how to care for him in such a way he don't find me annoying. I hope the "eventually" hasn't occurred yet. Please don't otherwise I'll feel so guilty.
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"Friend/Comm: To not take the initiative in communication with a friend is also common for our kind. In fact, we've had this discussion in dxp about this several times .. many of us will NOT be the contactor with our friends .. they have to phone us. And it's not because we don't want to be friends with the person .. actually, I don't know why this is, but, it is one of our traits (most of us). "

Ya, this is precisely the reason I'm in a dilenma. I don't want to email him cos' I don't want to make him feel annoyed. But if I don't email him, he will not ever email me. So would he feel that I don't care for him anymore? So I really don't know how long a duration I should back off. Maybe it depends on "feel"...feeling what is the right moment to talk...which is something I'm very bad at. Sometimes, I don't even trust my own feelings. lol.

The Vagueness and Lying/Truth, Right/Wrong things I beginning to know about these Pisces traits. Previously, before I met him, I don't know much about or read about Pisces horoscope. The general feeling they are gave me are that they are just naturally nice people...it's almost 2nd nature. Unlike Taurus, while they are compassionate, they will always "think" first...shd I help this person or not? So it's really a trait I admire among all Pisces.

The other traits that you mentioned, I'm learning from him currently. lol. I'm also coming to terms to these traits...accepting them...though for the case of Taurus, they are exactly the opposite. We tend to be very clear until people cry "spare me the details" haha. And we are very frank, honest and open to people we trust. Maybe a little bit too frank for other people comfort. hee...But we are just giving other people "helping advices". =p

Thanks all for the comments and advices. I should just back off and wait for the feeling is right to email him again. Still want to maintain contact with him. This friend of mine is special to me. =)
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Pisces just want to be who they are which could be one of onehundred person at any given time. We move at our own speed our own pace which at times may piss off many people. People who critize us or try to turn us into something were not risk the chance of being forever banned from our lives. Its that simple. I HAD a friend for over 20 years who thought I should drop everything for her whenever she would pop up to visit. She got angry and started talking to others about the personal things we had shared in conversation. That was it CUT OFF for life. She still trys to contact me but I have no desire to ever speak to her again, and whats sad is it was soooo easy to do even after 20 years of friendship. Respect your Pisces for who, what, and how they are dont try to change them into your Ideal. Its hard enough sometimes just to be self without trying to please everyone else, even though its in our nature to do so.
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Sweet-P, it's ok, you weren't too negative.

"I personally have oodles of acquaintances and friends. Trying to keep in touch with them all on a regular basis and give them the attention they want and/or need is just impossible, because I would have no time for myself! So that level of communication is reserved for my close friends."

Yup, he too have a lot of acquaintances and friends. And I know he has other closer friends. I want him to have time for himself too, otherwise he gets tired out. And I beginning to see that I'm actually not very close to him. For me, I have a small circle of friends (you know Taurus and their friends selection process...hee). And that's probably why we have a problem. I see him as one of my closest friend (especially when it comes to more personal conversation) and well maybe put too much focus on him...while he sees me as one of his many other normal friends.

Oh well, I should be satisfied being one of his friends. A person as wonderful as him shouldn't be "kept" as a friend, should be "shared" with the world. lol.
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"Pisces just want to be who they are which could be one of onehundred person at any given time. We move at our own speed our own pace which at times may piss off many people. People who critize us or try to turn us into something were not risk the chance of being forever banned from our lives. Its that simple. I HAD a friend for over 20 years who thought I should drop everything for her whenever she would pop up to visit. She got angry and started talking to others about the personal things we had shared in conversation. That was it CUT OFF for life. She still trys to contact me but I have no desire to ever speak to her again, and whats sad is it was soooo easy to do even after 20 years of friendship. Respect your Pisces for who, what, and how they are dont try to change them into your Ideal. Its hard enough sometimes just to be self without trying to please everyone else, even though its in our nature to do so."

I make him know that I wasn't critising him...just advicing him. And I wasn't angry with him once even when I know he tells some "half-truth" 😉....I just tell him I'll appreciate him to be clearer with what he's trying to convey...and don't overpromise people things...otherwise others may get hurt which does not include me only.

Ultimately, I know everyone is different...so I'm not forcing him to take my ideas. I'm just merely suggesting that maybe you do something like this it may be better for you. Just trying to help. And I didn't demand him to please me. In fact, I tell him it's alright to reject me. E.g. I said "if you don't have the time to go out with me, just tell me. It's ok, I will be fine. But try not to avoid and disappear. Then I'll be waiting and waiting...having no answer at all. So what am I supposed to think. No?"

Sirene, you did the right thing. I think regardless of any signs, if I have a friend of 20 years who do such a childish thing and hurt me so much by telling others all those personal things that we shared in our conversation. I'm without a doubt will "kick" the person out of my life. Well, if the person is a friend, she won't have done such a hurtful and revengeful action on you.
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"okay,

pisces or potato A LIE IS PROHIBITED.

there is right and wrong...there is truth and lies."

lol. Lady_M cuts Pisces people some slack ok. As a Taurus, I won't even dare to admit that I'm a saint. And definitely I won't say I haven't lie once in my life...cos' that would be a bigger sin.

For me, what matter is the intention behind the lie and its magnitude. If it's nothing malicious, then I'm still ok with it. E.g. if you friend ask you about her hair and you think it sucks. You won't tell her..."OMG! What happened to your hair?!!! Did you hair just caught a fire?" haha...that will be hurtful. I'll probably says "It's alright. Maybe you need a ..." and go on with some suggestion to make her hair looks better. =p Is this a lie? Definitely...her hair is no-where near alright. haha...but you doesn't want to be too frank that you hurt her feelings.

But of course, you don't tell her that her hair is alright all the time. Otherwise, she may have this misconception that too many "alrights" equal to a "beautiful"...and will wear that hair style all the time. haha.

Actually, I have one question to all the Pisces. Is it difficult to be a Pisces? Especially being the most misunderstood sign in the zodiac.