Pisces break up comes out of the sky—?

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Hello Everyone,

Im new to Dxpnet!!!! please tell me what you think about my situation with my ex (pisces)

So my ex boyfriend is a Pisces im an Aqua. Hes a really sweet guy one of the nicest guys I ever met. He was really one of my best friends. We had a very good relationship, I wouldnt say it was perfect but we were both very mature and took our relationship seriously ( we are both in our early 20's). He was very passionate about me and we both did our best to communicate with each other.
So this summer he broke up with out of no where. When he came over to tell me he thinks we shouldn't be together he couldn't even tell me why. So later he sends me a email explaining that the reason he had to break up with me was because he had to "manage" things and he didn't have time for me anymore( its not like we spent that much time together but ok) I was the one who supported him and encouraged him to strive for his greatest potential. He told me "he refuses to let anything get in the way of his goal" Like I was in the way or something. I asked him why didn't he tell me he felt he spent to much time together or he needed more space. He didnt even give me to the chance to prove to him that i could give him more space and be supportive.
I was very heart broken for a long time. This was my first love! How can he just throw away our relationship like it meant nothing to him? He told me he still wanted to be friends. Then school starts and he decides is best not to talk to me for a while. He just went from day to night, just like that. ( and I know for sure its not another women he is seeing)

My question is, do you think as a pisces man he is just that heartless(what happened to the man I loved)? and do pisces men end the relationship for no reason. Do pisces men try to go back to their ex after some time has passed especially if there was no reason for the break up?
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also take into consideration that he is a male in his early 20's. they're not all like that but i'm sure he's still rather immature in some areas. the hard cold truth may be that he is just not interested in u anymore. i'm sure it has nothing to do with needing space. he just doesn't wanna hurt ur feelings. i don't mean to over-generalize but men do this a lot! i can't tell u how many relationships i've witnessed, including my own, where the guy just plain lost interest but couldn't tell their woman the truth because "they didn't wanna hurt their feelings". the last 3 years of my relationship with my current ex was a total joke/lie because he wanted to spare my feelings.

those other things he told u were just excuses. those excuses made him feel better about the break-up and covered up the fact that he wasn't in love anymore. i've lived long enough to know that when a man really wants to be with u, he will move heaven and earth, and sacrifice some of his time to be with u or connect. men can be extremely romantic and passionate ppl but they speak a different language is all.

so no worries. we all have our first loves and most of us don't end up with them in the long run. our first loves are our stepping stones and first major learning experience. they help us learn more about ourselves and what we want out of a relationship/in a significant other. i'm sure it feels like the end of the world to some degree because u haven't gone through this kind of heartbreak yet. rest assure, it is not. u will love again!

i don't think he is heartless, just immature. i don't know enough about pisces men to answer the rest. i'm currently dealing with one so i'll let u know what i find out. all i know is that he projects the image that he is super positive but broke down to me and confessed that he is incredibly pessimistic the other night. he's also goes on these spaced out head trips and will disappear for a couple of weeks.
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That was unfair, FLeo. HE may have been manipulative, but that's NOT a common Pisces trait. We don't use people; we're more likely to GET used. 😢

The thing is, glitter.. there MUST be a reason. We tend to stick it out until the bitter end, until we're just completely empty and have nothing left to give. There's always a reason. Even if he cannot put it into words, because it's just a feeling he has (or doesn't have, because he's empty!), or if he can't find the words to put it in a way YOU would understand.. there's always a reason, usually more than one reason. Pisces have great difficulty revealing their private thoughts and feelings. It's something a lot of us recognize and eventually try to overcome (to varying degrees of success and failure) so it's even worse when we are younger, especially if no one's ever pointed it out to us and we're blissfully ignorant that we do this. A Pisces in his 30s is really very different than one in his 20s, and one in his 40s is different still, unless he just refused to think and grow and change.

I don't know what his reason was, HE may not even be able to verbalize his reasoning. Pisces are very strange creatures, very difficult to pin down or understand. You should read more of the threads here in the Pisces boards. There's a lot of Pisces bashing, yes - try to ignore most of that, because ALL signs have challenges and weaknesses and flaws. Pisces aren't BAD people, but are often very misunderstood. But there are a lot of Pisces lovers, and Pisces themselves that post here, willing to give everyone a glimpse into the mysterious landscape of the Piscean mind.
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That was very astute, ninjamu. I tend to agree... with this guy it's probably more about his (natural) immaturity in his early 20s than about his Sun sign at all. He could have been a Scorpio or a Libra (THEY have a bad rep too!) or even a Capricorn or Taurus. No matter how mature a 23 year old guy seems, he's still just 23, with 23 years of experience. What a difference 10 years makes for a guy! 😄

Everything happens for a reason! Every experience shapes us and sets us up for the next. Every experience teaches us something we will need in the future. Even the bad ones, maybe *especially* the bad ones!
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Posted by ninjamu
also take into consideration that he is a male in his early 20's. they're not all like that but i'm sure he's still rather immature in some areas. the hard cold truth may be that he is just not interested in u anymore. i'm sure it has nothing to do with needing space. he just doesn't wanna hurt ur feelings. i don't mean to over-generalize but men do this a lot! i can't tell u how many relationships i've witnessed, including my own, where the guy just plain lost interest but couldn't tell their woman the truth because "they didn't wanna hurt their feelings". the last 3 years of my relationship with my current ex was a total joke/lie because he wanted to spare my feelings.

those other things he told u were just excuses. those excuses made him feel better about the break-up and covered up the fact that he wasn't in love anymore. i've lived long enough to know that when a man really wants to be with u, he will move heaven and earth, and sacrifice some of his time to be with u or connect. men can be extremely romantic and passionate ppl but they speak a different language is all.

so no worries. we all have our first loves and most of us don't end up with them in the long run. our first loves are our stepping stones and first major learning experience. they help us learn more about ourselves and what we want out of a relationship/in a significant other. i'm sure it feels like the end of the world to some degree because u haven't gone through this kind of heartbreak yet. rest assure, it is not. u will love again!

i don't think he is heartless, just immature. i don't know enough about pisces men to answer the rest. i'm currently dealing with one so i'll let u know what i find out. all i know is that he projects the image that he is super positive but broke down to me and confessed that he is incredibly pessimistic the other night. he's also goes on these spaced out head trips and will disappear for a couple of weeks.



I have my Sun/Venus and Mars in Pisces and about six male friends who are Pisces and what ninjamu said above couldn't be more true. If you like someone enough, nothing else (dreams/space/time) matters. I broke up with one boyfriend and told him we spent way too much time together, I felt suffocated and couldn't focus on my career. At the time I felt that way, but I also didn't like him and didn't want to date him. So the thing is if we don
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OK I will start again, I just wanted to say that when I met a guy who I really fell in love with, nothing, including dreams/work/play etc mattered at all. I just wanted to be with him. We are very self sacrificing that way. But at the same time, you know this guy best and with saturn in Virgo, the love lives of Pisceans are difficult at the moment (supposedly until the end of October) so maybe wait it out and see what happens with him. I have said things and then regretted them, so you never know.
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"My question is, do you think as a pisces man he is just that heartless(what happened to the man I loved)? and do pisces men end the relationship for no reason. Do pisces men try to go back to their ex after some time has passed especially if there was no reason for the break up?"



He gave you a reason, he said it was because he didn't have the time to manage everything in his life, which includes you .. that is his reason.

Just because you don't wan to accept it .. doesn't equal "no reason"



So, he's got shit going on in his life and wants to be single .. what's wrong with that? You had said you were mature .. are you sure about that?


He wants to be single .. are you mature enough to let him?
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Posted by CouldBeMe2f
Theres no such thing as "out of the blue" to a pisces... Usually if we did it, we had been thinking about it for a very long time. We were just trying to either A) See if we could still hack it with you or B)Waiting for the opprotune moment to break up with you.



This about sums it up......I think he was trying to be as polite as he could be. Most likey he did not see it going any where with you and decided not to waste your time or his. 😢 Sorry!!

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Regardless of zodiac ......If a guy is really into you, he will make time and move mountains to be with you. He did not see a mounain worth moving. I am sorry.....that may sound harsh .......but there is no sugar coating the truth. 😢

The good news my friend ......know that you are worth more than that and find someone who can value you more than this guy did or ever will.

Good luck!!

PD
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Hi glitterNgold

I am cancer guy dating a pisces girl. Your situation is familiar to me...
I think we "breake up" w my pisces at least 5,6 times. First time it was out of blue, everything was
perfect we were texting to each other and there she found a pretext to break up because of a "misunderstanding". I was wondering what
i did wrong...i remainded cool (not clingy) and affectionate towards her (implying she could return if she wanted ). Yes, she returned then there were
couple of more "break ups" it got on my nerves then i decided just to ignore her, she returned herself again. I asked her why she does that
when everything is fine she could not explain it herself...i think they want some drama when everything is fine and i like it 🙂 Now she became kinda stable ...

To your question if he will come back...i would say if he does not have other woman and everything was ok then most likely he will return to you.
Because pisces tend to over analyze things...If i do something wrong to my pisces (sometimes she spoiles me) she does not react to it straight away, i get the "feedback" next day...she will analyze it a day 🙂....

So, stay cool and affectionate if everything was ok and he does not have any other hidden reasons most likely he ll return
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Women frequently find themselves disillusioned by Pisces men, that is, they can't believe the guy that was so sweet and caring and considerate could be such a cold and heartless SOB. But its true. The truth is that Pisces are wimps and cannot be upfront from the get go. They allow you to believe what you believe about them to be true, and then one day --- BAM! Everything you believed to be reality is NOT....and if you want to see how cold and insensitive Pisces can be, just read some of P-Angels posts. She's good at deflecting blame and being insensitive to people with a broken heart who come and post on DXP. The bad news is, yes, it hurts and you may question your ability to see reality. The good news is, the Pisces usually ends up screwing himself ultimately. Trust me....seen it time and time again. They have a way about shooting themselves in the foot.

Keep your head up and show this loser that he's worthless....good luck.
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LOL When it comes to P-Angel's faults, if you pay close attention, you'll see that the things she says that you take most offense to... are the parts of her that have been "Virgo-tized" from being with a Virgo man for over two and a half decades. Pisces are Mutable, and her Mutable form has taken on a distinct Virgo edge... which you would be able to see, were you not so blinded by your own illusions about yourself. They say you hate most that which most is like you - which is why you cold, bitter, judgmental Virgos have so much trouble dealing with P-Angel. Seriously, when she gets on a roll, sometimes I swear she's channeling Shaks! He hates her, yet he's SO LIKE HER! *grin*

"the truth is you want so badly to mold us.. and we try to take shape for YOU!!! we try really hard to be what YOU want.. but then all the sudden its BAM! you realize there is no shaping us into your mold.. now there is no point for us to be what YOU want.. and we swim off and be what we want.."

Profound truth. You knock my socks off sometimes, Ian.
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listen to this statement...

"They allow you to believe what you believe about them to be true, and then one day --- BAM! Everything you believed to be reality is NOT...."

how ridiculous does that sound? and they say pisces are the dreamers.. at least we know whats reality and whats dream..


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Indeed, Ian .... I clearly comprehend the reality of that statement, as well.

People (non-Pisces) have a certain image in their mind of what they want, and then go about attempting to fit a person into this image ... that isn't reality, that is an illusion .... because people are themselves, not who another wants them to be.

Pisces on the other hand ... allows thier partners to be exactly who they are.


The irony of it ... the reality is the complete opposite, and the only ones who know it are the Fish. So, this means that when people think we don't have a grasp on reality, the truth is, they don't.
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I too found it amusing:

"You Pisces MAKE us believe in an illusion. Therefore, YOU are the dreamers, the ones without a grasp on reality. We Virgos (or any non-Fish) know what reality is, unless you fooled us into believing something that wasn't true. Therefore, it's ALL YOUR FAULT!"

So.. wait... which exactly has a grasp on reality and which does not? o.O
Keep fooling your damn self and blaming it on someone else.
We Pisces know what's true, no matter what fantasy YOU create or buy into.

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As for Virgoheart .... below is the first post she ever made, it was on the Virgo board. From my responses to this thread is where she immediately based her decision about my character, judgeing it as insensitive to the broken-hearted.

But, as you read through this, you find that she isn't broken hearted ... just broken, for her very opening post in dxp is addressing how she feels like she's a perpetual victim, and it also addresses that she, herself, is too sensitive to face the harsh realities of the world.




Posted by virgoheart
Virgos are misunderstood...Virgos have the best hearts, we are accepting of everyone and we are loyal to our friends and to those we love. We never ask for help and yet we are willing to help everyone! It seems our nature is completely out of sync with the rest of the world. Virgos are too sensitive to stomach the harsh realities of this world. We just want everyone to be happy and want to love and be loved. When we treat people with kindness, we are misinterpreted as "stupid." When we stand our ground and demand respect, we are "harassing." We feel everything deeply. That is why we can be extremely emotional. Nothing is frivolous to us. We don't find pleasure in the suffering of others. We are courageous, loving people!

So I ask, what can I, as a virgo, do to protect my loving heart?





For the fact that her very first opening post in dxp is expressing how she is a victim of this world by default of being born a Virgo ...... it means she wasn't looking for a person to finallly understand her, it means she wanted people to validate her role of being a victim of the woe of martyrdom.

Seriously, who introduces theirself like that?


My words to her were truth .... but, as she admitted, she cannot handle reality.
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In fact, Virgos in general, hate.


Thier life force is driven by hate ... meaning they identify what they hate, and use it as a gauge to grow from and use it as measurement to see if they have succeeded. The irony, they don't know this. They think that they are driven off of positive force.


If you listen to Virgos ... they normally start off a conversation talking about what they hate, what is horrible to them, and then build from there to try and find a solution to take them away from hating. The problem with this is that it is their root thought ..........

.... which unfortunately, will only bring more for them to hate because it is what they are projecting.





Geminis are similar in the aspect that their root thoughts are hatred based.
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Women frequently find themselves disillusioned by Pisces men, that is, they can't believe the guy that was so sweet and caring and considerate could be such a cold and heartless SOB. But its true. The truth is that Pisces are wimps and cannot be upfront from the get go. They allow you to believe what you believe about them to be true, and then one day --- BAM! Everything you believed to be reality is NOT....and if you want to see how cold and insensitive Pisces can be, just read some of P-Angels posts. She's good at deflecting blame and being insensitive to people with a broken heart who come and post on DXP. The bad news is, yes, it hurts and you may question your ability to see reality. The good news is, the Pisces usually ends up screwing himself ultimately. Trust me....seen it time and time again. They have a way about shooting themselves in the foot.

Keep your head up and show this loser that he's worthless....good luck.




i agree we can go from caring and considerate to cold and heartless....if you fuck us around..

the truth is that we are not wimps and can be upfront... but you dont want us to be upfront.. you want to believe what you want.. its not that we allow you to believe..


listen to this statement...

"They allow you to believe what you believe about them to be true, and then one day --- BAM! Everything you believed to be reality is NOT...."

how ridiculous does that sound? and they say pisces are the dreamers.. at least we know whats reality and whats dream..


the truth is you want so badly to mold us.. and we try to take shape for YOU!!! we try really hard to be what YOU want.. but then all the sudden its BAM! you realize there is no shaping us into your mold.. now there is no point for us to be what YOU want.. and we swim off and be what we want..


"the Pisces usually ends up screwing himself ultimately. Trust me....seen it time and time again. They have a way about shooting themselves in the foot."

dont recall shooting myself in the foot.. dont ever remember being screwed by myself either.. i dont think anything ive done in my life has screwed me over in any way... life is real.. and i live it.. and i deal with it.. and time marches on...
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Everything you wrote here is sooooo Piscean truth
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LOL When it comes to P-Angel's faults, if you pay close attention, you'll see that the things she says that you take most offense to... are the parts of her that have been "Virgo-tized" from being with a Virgo man for over two and a half decades. Pisces are Mutable, and her Mutable form has taken on a distinct Virgo edge... which you would be able to see, were you not so blinded by your own illusions about yourself. They say you hate most that which most is like you - which is why you cold, bitter, judgmental Virgos have so much trouble dealing with P-Angel. Seriously, when she gets on a roll, sometimes I swear she's channeling Shaks! He hates her, yet he's SO LIKE HER! *grin*

"the truth is you want so badly to mold us.. and we try to take shape for YOU!!! we try really hard to be what YOU want.. but then all the sudden its BAM! you realize there is no shaping us into your mold.. now there is no point for us to be what YOU want.. and we swim off and be what we want.."

Profound truth. You knock my socks off sometimes, Ian.



Wow, great observation!!!
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Just so you know, P-Angel, you're a favorite of mine -- I was not intending to infer that YOU are so full of hate. Only that Shaks is so full of hate and bitterness that he cannot accept the Virgo similarities between you two, maybe because he figures if he does not accept it, it shall not be real! LOL, and he calls US dreamers and fools! YOU are not full of hate; you are fully grounded and aware of reality, and a true Pisces (which do NOT hate people.) Shaks still lives in the fantasy of his own making, calling it reality, and the Pisces he hates so much (ALL of us, not just you, P-Angel!) that reflect back the qualities that fill him with self-loathing enough to lash out at the ones he picks to blame -- the Pisces ex-gf who screwed him over (I bet there's more to this than he's admitting!), and his Cappy girl's Pisces ex whom Shaks loves to bad-mouth. Those two Pisces, to Shaks, represent the whole of being a Fish. Talk about Fantasyland!

You just seem to be his special target, the one that pushes his buttons most because you speak truth he cannot and will not face himself. Playing the Blame Game is far easier for him 😉
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Hey P-Angel:

First, thanks for posting my "original post" -- it further proves my point that YOU are insensitive to people who post on DXP. As for being a "victim", it is known that Pisces are the self described "victims" of the zodiac. They can never accept blame and it's always someone elses fault.

You can post and re-post any and all of my posts any time you wish. If I didn't want them to be read, I would not have posted them to begin with. So I thank you for exerting the energy in your futile attempt to discredit me, while instead exposing yourself for the insensitive predator you truly are.

You try to deflect the blame (typical) on to your Virgo husband for YOUR negative traits....a realist would accept responsibility for their own words and actions.

People come on to DXP seeking help and advise, not your abuse! They may have a particular question or problem they need to work through. In almost every post, you are the first to attack. Just read back through some of the threads you've posted on.

My sympathies to your Virgo husband.

We've caught on to you P-Angel....I'm not the only one who has called you out on DXP!!
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Posted by Starfish225
hate Virgo is what I was trying to say..live and let live bc we are different means nothing you guys have your best attributes and so do we, and lets get it straight Virgo's are no way better then Pisces and vise versa..Believe it or not..



*Stands up and claps* Bravo SF!!!!! I agree many virgo men (not all) have this superiority complex......probably compensating for inferiority in other areas. I get along fine with virgo women, it is the men that are a different story. I actually tolerate Dy ....I think he is okay. He is more cordial in disagreement I guess, maybe virgos become a little more subtle as they get older.

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Virgo men are ok ... handicapped in reality areas, but, aren't all the non-Pisces?


I would take a Virgo over most others, even if they lack passion ... at least they know how to provide a solid ground in front of you to walk on, and in the aspect of a long-term relationship, the desire for reliability outwieghs the desire for diversity, though in it's irony, the diversity is provided in the very pairing, if the two can get over themselves long enough to value the difference, rather than let the ego be in contempt of it.
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I know the answer to that PP .....


When Virgos say we are too emotional, what they mean is that we allow our emotions to be a part of our life ... which also means, they don't allow emotions to be a part of their life ... so we look to be too emotional to them.


Ok, so now let's look at the outcome ..... they have ignored dealing with feelings and we have not.

If you ignore your math, you're terrible at it ... if you ignore how to socialize with other people then you're anti-social.

People are experts at what they practice.

Your brother and sister never dealt with their own emotions, pushed them aside like all Virgos do, and then when the time came that they needed to get an emotional grip, they can't ... because they never learned how to deal with their own feelings.



Pisces on the other hand, like yourself and your mothers death ..... you know exactly how to handle your feelings, how to put her death into proper perspective.


Sorry about your mother, btw 😢
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((hugs PP)) I am really sorry to hear about your mom. 😢 I do agree with you that pisces do know how to deal with grief much better than our counter parts. Yeah, my mom died four years ago, and my gemini sisters and brothers either went to alcohol and even one sister went to drugs. I felt like I was able to make peace with my mom's death while she was still alive. I actually had the most issues from childhood with her but we were able to resolve them with no guilt. It was strange PP ....but I felt like I grieved more when my mom was alive than when she acutally passed. She had cancer and we knew the time was near. So we spent much of life never knowing what to expect from day to day. So in a sense I felt like we prepared ourselves while she was alive. When she passed, it was a relief, because we knew she was no longer suffering. We had some good times before she passed, and those are the moments I try to hold on to.

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